The RAPTURE and the Tribulation Saints.

Earth shaking events are upon us.

But the rapture isnt.

Not for a long time yet.

These "shakings" are just the smallest start.

The mere "beginning".

The small fart before the hurricane.

Luke Ch 21:
But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.

10Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

What if it already happened. And barely anyone made it.

The overwhelming number of end time theories that are based on sound bible doctrine prove otherwise, we just don't know how soon.

It's not far into the future. That's just wishful thinking for those who want to be "of this world" longer

You two will be tossed around like feathers in a hurricane…if you should live so long.

Strange Game

And it's one that you must not lose, the fate of your eternal soul depends upon it.

1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

HERE HE COMES!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

Hi Judethz,

Your points are well-taken... And there is another thing working at the same time...

IMO, there will be tribulation saints... but they will not be part of the Bride of Christ.

As far as I see, Jesus comes for His Bride once... Hence the parable of the foolish and wise virgins. There are no second sweeps.

People who repent and come to Christ in the Tribulation - will then be as you put it: Tribulation Saints... morphing into God's people on the earth (if they make it to there) during the millennium.

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Jeremiah 12:5
[The Lord Answers Jeremiah]
“If you have run with the footmen, and they have wearied you, Then how can you contend with horses? And if in the land of peace, In which you trusted, they wearied you, Then how will you do in the floodplain of the Jordan?
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2Ki 9:20 And the watchman told, saying, He came even unto them, and cometh not again: and the driving [is] like the driving of Jehu the son of Nimshi; for he driveth furiously.

And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel that prophesy, and say thou unto them that prophesy out of their own hearts, Hear ye the word of the LORD;

3 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe unto the foolish prophets, that follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing!

4 O Israel, thy prophets are like the foxes in the deserts.

5 Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.

6 They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them: and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word.

7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?

8 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have spoken vanity, and seen lies, therefore, behold, I am against you, saith the Lord GOD.

9 And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord GOD.

10 Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter:

11 Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it.

12 Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?

13 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even rend it with a stormy wind in my fury; and there shall be an overflowing shower in mine anger, and great hailstones in my fury to consume it.

14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

15 Thus will I accomplish my wrath upon the wall, and upon them that have daubed it with untempered morter, and will say unto you, The wall is no more, neither they that daubed it;

16 To wit, the prophets of Israel which prophesy concerning Jerusalem, and which see visions of peace for her, and there is no peace, saith the Lord GOD.

17 Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against them,

18 And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?

19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?

20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

21 Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

22 Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, by promising him life:

23 Therefore ye shall see no more vanity, nor divine divinations: for I will deliver my people out of your hand: and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

time for jude-thz
to hit the road



"Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, GO INTO THE STREETS PROCLAIMING THE KINGDOM IS HERE.



Luke 9:3
Take nothing for the journey--no staff, no bag, no bread, no money, no extra shirt.
Whatever house you enter, stay there until you leave that town."If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person is not worthy of me

HERES THE MARK IDENTIFYING CHRISTIANS

Acts 4:32
All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.

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This chapter is about "churches and its members teaching Lies".

False teachings are higher than the truth today.

Teaching others to "Fly" to save their "souls" is something
God Himself is against.

Formula for rightly dividing the Word is 1 Cor. 13:1.

I can take down all false teachers knowing the Word of Gods formula.

People put their trust in MAN or WOMAN who only think about themselves and want praise and have much "PRIDE".

A true prophet, NEVER says they are a PROPHET, but are humble and NEVER teaches the "traditions of MEN"S church systems".

Majority of Christians will bow down to "Baal teachings our of ignorance".
But God Himself has already set aside (7000 that will not bow down to Baal, nor Satan's deceptive teachings)> Romans 11:4 and 1 Kings 19:18. There are my two witness verse's.
And those 7000 true Christians will go head to head with the end time anti-christ and his army of 7000 angels with Him.
Yes the end time anti-christ is none other than Satan.
He will land 7 miles North of Mt. Zion.
And the whole world will worship Satan and his angels do to the false teachings by the so called Pastors and those that follow their teachings. You can count on it.
ONLY those that have the true Seal of God IN their foreheads cannot bow down to Satan. And Satan cannot touch them at all. (Rev. (9:4) That star that falls in Rev. 9:1 is Satan himself. The Locust is the fallen angels, as God Himself said He would send them and let them test the world in Joe chapter 2.
Amos 8:11 has been fulfilled.
Isa. 19:13.

I am your second witness.

All the things I have are from Gods Blessings. I own nothing and want nothing from anyone, nor do I need anything from any of the four hidden beast systems that make people stumble and fall from "grace".
Political, Economical, Educational, and Religion.

I fat fingered that last sentence of my posting of this posting > It should of been Isa 29:13.....


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This chapter is about "churches and its members teaching Lies".

False teachings are higher than the truth today.

Teaching others to "Fly" to save their "souls" is something
God Himself is against.

Formula for rightly dividing the Word is 1 Cor. 13:1.

I can take down all false teachers knowing the Word of Gods formula.

People put their trust in MAN or WOMAN who only think about themselves and want praise and have much "PRIDE".

A true prophet, NEVER says they are a PROPHET, but are humble and NEVER teaches the "traditions of MEN"S church systems".

Majority of Christians will bow down to "Baal teachings our of ignorance".
But God Himself has already set aside (7000 that will not bow down to Baal, nor Satan's deceptive teachings)> Romans 11:4 and 1 Kings 19:18. There are my two witness verse's.
And those 7000 true Christians will go head to head with the end time anti-christ and his army of 7000 angels with Him.
Yes the end time anti-christ is none other than Satan.
He will land 7 miles North of Mt. Zion.
And the whole world will worship Satan and his angels do to the false teachings by the so called Pastors and those that follow their teachings. You can count on it.
ONLY those that have the true Seal of God IN their foreheads cannot bow down to Satan. And Satan cannot touch them at all. (Rev. (9:4) That star that falls in Rev. 9:1 is Satan himself. The Locust is the fallen angels, as God Himself said He would send them and let them test the world in Joe chapter 2.
Amos 8:11 has been fulfilled.
Isa. 19:13.

I tithe and make donations to various causes/people as I see fit. And I also try to spend some time on the internet each day spreading the word and help out here and there as opportunity rises. It is between myself and the Lord what I do and it is non of your business.

It looks to me like you are practicing Witchcraft 101 by accusing me of that which you are doing yourself. Don't think for one minute that you will go unpunished for it, except that you repent of your sins and turn to the Lord while you are still able.

2Ti 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

Tts 2:3 The aged women likewise, that [they be] in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;

You'll be soooooo disapointed when TSHTF and no rapture at all happened. First, for thinking you interpreted it wrong. Then time will go by and you still gonna be thinking the same, changing slowly to "rapture is after tribulation". Then things are gonna get worse and still no rapture and you're most likely lose your faith.

you are so close
allow me to correct you on the 4 giuewish pillars
military
corporate
religious
state


ace
club
diamond
hearts


king
bishop
knight
rook

there are 2 raptures
ressurection of living and of dead

you made your choice
the choice of stupid
illiteratewhitetrash

I do not read Romans 11:4 and 1 Kings 19:18 as a future event but in reference to what was happening at the time they were said

any other references as to why you believe the 7,000 applies to the last 7 years prior to Christ return?

Ummm... after the tribulation AFAI read, is the end of the world...

The post-trib rapture is nothing more than a housecleaning op... not really anything.

Ref: 5 wise virgins and 5 foolish virgins parable. Where do you fit in?

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Matthew 25:1
[The Parable of the Wise and Foolish Virgins]
“Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.

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the world does not end after tribulation - it is renewed and Christ sets up His government to administer to those who will be living on this earth. Christ will have 1,000 years of His Rule (the promised coming Golden Age) to show as example what greatness could be achieved which man could not in his 6,000 years of government administered by mans rules.

Read Eze. chapter 13.all.
I did not use Witchcraft at all. I always use scripture and I validate what I share.
I never once accused you of anything! I do NOT JUDGE anyone at all.
My beloved Sis whom I knew from the beginning (hidden info there for ya), I would never ever judge you or anyone at all.
If I judge anyone, it would be like stepping on Gods toes. And guess what happens to those that do that. I am sorry that you did not get the message. Most don't,do to their denominational teaching and teaching from false information groups.
As far as "Chick" goes; I would not put my trust in them do to my research of their agenda and background.
Do you know "Chick group" so well that you would trust them with truth?

God is in control of who shall have eyes to see and who does not. I know I have NO power what so ever. Christians are so quick to "Judge" others.
I do not even "Judge" the ungodly groups. So why would you think I am judging you?
I have not posted on GLP in a long time do to the govie snoops that see everything we type.
I have been on GLP since 1998. I watch what is going on in the World daily.
I was trying to get you to listen to God only. Don't you put your trust in ME or anyone else. Again, I have no power what's so every to help others.
I am tho: Little Star.... hint.
Christ is a Star (Numbers 24) and Satan is a star, Isa 14.
We are "stars", Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy" ?
Another hint for ya as to why I said "I knew you from the beginning and we loved one and another without fear, with joy in our hearts to all brothers and sisters".
What I wrote is very deep in understanding. If you did not get it, put it on a shelf in your mind and wait for the understanding from the Lord Jesus.
Blessings

I got my info from the manuscripts.
Zec. 1:18 and Dan. 7:3 are my two witness verse's.
When the deadly wound happens in Rev. 13:3 and in verse 4 we see the "dragon, Satan" healing the POLITICAL Beast system which will take that deadly wound.
I know the churches teach that the "deadly" wound will be given to the end time "anti-christ" which they teach it is some MAN. But it will be the NWO gang and their plan that will take the deadly wound. And Satan will be booted out by Michael (Rev. 12:7,8,9).
And Satan is the one that takes control over the NWO power and everyone will just fall in LOVE with Satan. Only those that have the Seal of god IN their forehead (Gods plan, not the traditions of church systems). Believe it or not, the majority of Christians will bow down to Satan in the "Hour of temptation"; and so will the rest of the world.
Read Rev. 9:4. God commands Satan to touch NOT those who have the seal of God in their foreheads.
Satan is coming in so peaceful, so lovie dovie that if Christ did not shorten that time of Satan of being here on earth, that even the elect shall fall for him. (Mark 13:20)
Yet the churches teach there will be Nuker's and Satan will kill and etc. ( All lies.) God commands Satan that He cannot "kill" anyone.
When the deadly wound happens (1 Thes. 5:3)
We gather back to Christ at the Last trump ( 1 Cor. 15:34 to 54 , IE verse 52)
Our flesh bodies will fall to the ground, and our spiritual bodies will step out of them, written in Zec. chapter 14:all. Pay attention and read slowly. Christ puts His foot on Mt. of Olives. Satan lands 7 miles north of Mt. Zion when he comes. (example found in Isa: chapter 10. Old cities there, so understand that those cities are long gone. Learn!
I have given much info out, and yet I know I cannot "seal" anyone's mind, only God has that power.
blessings

Neither Isa. 19:18, nor Romans 11:4 have come to pass yet.
God has reserved them to take down Satan. And Christ taught this info too, if you learn them.
Look at Mark 13:9 to 11. That are those that have the end time sealing and they will go head to head, eyeball to eyeball against Satan.
7000 of fallen angels with Satan with his supernatural gang, against 7000 sealed of Gods elect will go head to head against Satan and reveal him and who he is while the whole world is loving on Satan in that Hour of temptation.
Even tho I share this, only a very few will understand and receive this info, until that hour of temptation comes to pass. Then the seeds I have planted will grow in that hour only.
Blessings

You are correct.
Amos 8:11 has been fulfilled.

Yes, Satan is using John 3:16 against Christians to keep them from learning the truth.

Proverbs 1:7

You, sir are a wise man.
blessings

Now that I have written Eze. chapter 13, all those that might have a NIV bible, go read the changes it has made in this chapter.

NIV, changes the meanings to "make birds fly to save their souls".
That chapter has nothing to do with birds at all.
It is all about churches and false teachings as they build their churches and "teach others to fly to save their souls>"

They make up lies and pass it on as truth.

In Mat. chapter 4:all Satan comes to Christ and tempts Christ with "Scriptures".
But if you know the Word of God, you can find the scriptures that Satan uses and see how He (Satan) twist the scriptures about 90* out.

That is how the "super preachers work".
Remember 2 Cor. 11:13,14,15.

NOTE: I need to correct myself in front of everyone.
I said the formula is 1 Cor. 13:1.
IT IS NOT 1 Cor. 13:1, BUT 2 Cor. 13:1.

I am struggling with my eyes. I have had two operations on them, so I am making mistakes.

I want to learn and retain the Whole Bible so I can teach it without holding it in my hand or read from it do to my eye sight failing.
I love the Word of God, for Jesus is the Living Word.

John 1:1...... Rev. 19:13.....

Blessings to all

I agree with you.

Yes... You are right. This is what I meant. The world will be renewed... the Lamb will lie down with the Lion, etc...

But for that to happen, it will be recreated. And before it can be, God has to gather His Saints and probably everybody else 'somewhere'... first. Like I said... housekeeping.