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Message Subject The RAPTURE and the Tribulation Saints.
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in Scripture that most clearly teaches a rapture is 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17. The final words are: "The Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel's call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord." "Caught up"

Wow to be hem who are pregnant in that time nation will be against nation. There will be no restraint of Gods spirit and evil will pre ail. It will be worse than the times of Noah
 Quoting: Jelly 78075894


I want you to study.

Air = aer in the Greek. What does that mean?
Aer = spiritual body, not flesh body.

The word "clouds does not mean real clouds." It is a street
Greek (Colonial) word or slang that means "large body of people, or like we says today "A cloud of locust". Meaning a large number.
Prove this? Sure can
Heb. 12:1 Cloud of witness's. How can on this earth can a "cloud" be a witness? It can't.
Jude 12 "Clouds they are without water".
How can a real cloud be without water?

It means in Jude 12, Multitudes without the spiritual water from the Thrown of God. Every read about that river of water coming from the Thrown of God?

I am NOT a Darby follower nor an Irving follower.
They both were heretics.
Darby went to college to become a lawyer. He failed as a lawyer. So in his own journal he wrote "I want to go into religion".
Darby was ordained as a pastor at the age of 30. At the age of 33 he was striped of his pastoral duties and his church took all of his material even his journal. The church threw him out of the church, yet Darby and Irving continued to teach falsely.
Thousand and thousands of pastors quote Darby and Irving today. Those pastors have NOT done their homework, nor was Darby nor Irving a real honest to goodness original scholars.
So are most so called pastors today. Crappy soothsaying pastors who only mimic what they hear from others.
Like this one" the end time "Mark of the beast" is the bar code. All lies.
As a Bar Code expert who worked in that field for over 38 years know more in my little finger than the Pastor who wrote a book about it. They all quote that pastor who wrote about it back in the early 70's.
Same thing today. They say today "Oh, the verify chip is the "Mark of the Beast". Geeish as a Mechanical and Electronic engineer, I know that it is false teaching.
The true "Mark of the Beast is written in scripture for all eyes to see. I have quoted it already.
It is "Rev. 9:4", not have the seal of God IN their foreheads. In simpler terms, NOT KNOWING GODS WORD AND HIS PLAN.
And that is the end time mark of the beast. And boy did I just open a can of worms by saying what I just said.
The Word confirms itself. And God IS NOT the author of confusion.
I have that latter day sealing and Satan cannot touch me at all. I rebuke Satan and his little lying cronies who promote his lies.
Even by many names the end time "anti-christ" names are given, yet some man is suppose to the the end time anti-christ. No it will be that beautiful in appearance Satan along with those beautiful angels with Satan. They will be so gentle, so loving, just so soft spoken lovie dovie.
I guess that between 80 to 90 percent of Christians will bow down to Satan thinking he is Jesus coming to rapture them away. After all the fly away doctrine has been around since 1830.
Oh, some will quote someone from 300 AD or 600 Ad and say they said it too. Lies, not of those past writers have spoken it. But wait they say to me , In the Septuagint it is written also that we shall "fly away" . NOT IT DOES NOT.
No were in the original writings does it say the word "Rapture". NONE!
Yes, we will gather back to Christ, but only at the 7th trump, 7th seal, 7th vile.
Satan comes at the 666 time line.
Many Christians have the Mark of the Beast upon them today, and Satan loves it. Read 2 Thess. chapter 2. REad it slowly. I know it by heart and can teach it word for word with understanding. I mean after all that "man of sin", that son of perdition is the ONLY ONE IN THE WHOLE BIBLE that has been Judged already. Not even the angels of Jude 6 has been judged yet.
A child can understand this.
All angels in the bible are called "man, or men".
Satan in Isa. chapter 14 is called a man, did any of you know that? Why, because he had walked to and fro over this earth as written in the book of Job. Christ has both titles also.
Son of God, and son of man.
And the reason Christians will fall because they put their trust in man, and as written in 2 Thess. chapter 2:9 and 2:10, and 2:11.
That strong delusion in 2 Thess. is Satan posing as Jesus.
Paul tells, Christ tells us and all the prophecies in the bible says Satan comes first.
"Is this the man that deceives the nations" written in the book of Isa chapter 14. There is where you will find that Satan is called a man.
Geeish the blind leading the blind in so called house's of God.
Now, I know I just upset many people and I said I would not post again. But I am moved by the truth and Christ is the way and the truth.
Christ told you in all 3 books the end time "sealing chapters" Mat 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 that when you see the abomination of desolation appear in Jerusalem to get out of Jerusalem and flee to the mountains. And NO it was not some tin horn soldier named Titus that is the end time anti-Christ. And NO Jesus was not talking in those end time sealing chapters about Titus. He was talking about His nemesis, that is, Satan.
I am sure I will be upsetting to those that do not love Christ enough to learn what He says, and what the old and new testie both say.
Oh well, I have to really leave now.
Blessings to all, and do your homework. Do not put your trust in me or any other human.
 Quoting: I trust knowone but God 75251458

time to study some more.
The mark of the Beast is a physical mark.
How else could any one refuse you to buy or sell goods.
Also the Greek word for mark is always based in physical representations.

The Anti Christ will be a man. Just as Jesus was a man.

The mistake we make is in misunderstanding what is being said. The Hebrews are looking for a Messiah,a Christ (God in the Flesh or a man who is God), thus they will follow the Anti Christ, a man who acts like a God.
Though he will be controlled by Satan, he will not actually be Satan.

Revelation 19:20 is the fate of the Anti Christ and the False prophet.
Revelation 20:2 shows a separate fate for Satan.
Thus they are not the same "person".
 
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