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"A long-range laser was used to measure the flatness of the waters at the Três Marias Dam in Minas Gerais; at the Lagoa dos Patos, in Rio Grande do Sul; at Lake Titicaca in Peru"

I am just a lowly cook but that lake experiment gets me.


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(((They))) always say "refraction", "mirage" or, hilariously, "Gravity!"

Then, they be like lala

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"A long-range laser was used to measure the flatness of the waters at the Três Marias Dam in Minas Gerais; at the Lagoa dos Patos, in Rio Grande do Sul; at Lake Titicaca in Peru"

I am just a lowly cook but that lake experiment gets me.


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(((They))) always say "refraction", "mirage" or, hilariously, "Gravity!"

Then, they be like lala

cruise
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Nope. Try toilet bowl troll liars.
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Hmmm. Some clouds are obviously in front, but others do seem to go behind the Sun's disc.

"They" will probably just say it's an "optical illusion" and go lala

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Not a scientist here, my guess is the background clouds are reflections off the atmosphere from that angle of the horizon.

The sun always appears larger when it hits that angle in relation to the viewer a distorted effect .
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Can u RRALLY zoom in the close on an object supposed to be 92 million miles away?
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Yes. Why not?
Common sense says no
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Common sense tells me you're an idiot.

Here is a AMATEUR rocket hitting the dome then stopping dead
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Nope. That's an amateur rocket using yoyo despin to stabilize before popping the parachutes. Here's curvature from a rocket I helped launch.
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Nice Astro seeing people do their own experiments.
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They just can't be honest. A popular flat earther called me fraud for claiming moonlight does not make things colder, but he only shows the first few seconds of my video where I'm showing what I was about to debunk. Here's what he showed as well as my response.

 Quoting: Astroshill


How does anyone actually get dragged into a debate about whether the Earth is flat or not?

Frustrating to know people believe in a flat Earth.

SMFH.

Why bother with complete idiots?
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Because they're lying about my video and attributing their own fucked up flat earth way of doing it as having come from me. I will not tolerate it and I will absolutely destroy anyone who supports them in their effort to smear me.
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You are a frsud
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Nope. You're done on my threads.
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I was fine with you a long time app
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Not sure how they can live with themselves making money of off their misleading garbage on YouTube. Sickening.
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You are a frsud
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Nope. You're done on my threads.
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I was fine with you a long time app
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I am not a fraud. Get off my threads you fucking stupid bastard.
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Eric Dubay, FTW!

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BTW, Astro, I did ask Eric to debate you at your choice of debate site, but got no answer.

He's probably deathly afraid of you!

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Today I was just browsing around Youtube when I came across a video called "Earth from Space" - 1:54:22 ( [link to youtube.com (secure)] The comments were interesting and also full of those "Flat Earth" trolls. I wrote this comment to illustrate why a Flat Earth is impossible and thought it may be helpful here for those wishing to understand the thing called "gravity" better and why a Flat Earth (or flat anything in space) can't exist naturally.

A short lesson on gravity, and keep an open mind here please. Gravity is not a pulling force. It's a pushing force. Gravity is space pressure. Yes, space has pressure just like air but far more rarefied. Let's ask a question...Why are all normal natural space bodies like stars, moons and planets spherical? All normal space bodies are spherical because they are exposed to the omnidirectional pressure of space (commonly called gravity) which squeezes them into a ball. Anything that is subjected to omnidirectional pressure in a suspended state, as in space, form a spherical shape because it is the most balanced form able to equally withstand omnidirectional pressure. As a simple example, when you squeeze out some water in a zero gravity environment, as in the videos of astronauts aboard the space station, it forms a spherical globule. This demonstrates the principle.

Why do different sized bodies have different gravity levels? The reason why different sized bodies have different nominal gravity levels is because a smaller body (like a moon or planet) has less surface area exposed to the pressure of space than, say, a big star. This is pure gravity alone without taking into account the rotational friction effects against space of a body which intensifies gravity.This principle is exactly the same as the difference between deep ocean water pressure on a large submarine and a tennis ball. The submarine, because of it's larger size, has a larger surface area on which the pressure can act than does the tennis ball so the sub will be crushed harder by water pressure than the tennis ball. This is also how space pressure (gravity) works.

One can also ask the question, If gravity is a magnetic pull force and earth's core is supposedly a solid rotating iron ball magnet (which it isn't but rather a ball of plasma not unlike the sun) pulling things toward it then how can it act upon non-magnetic materials? Shouldn't it then only attract magnetic materials? It doesn't however. It acts omnidirectionally and equally on everything. The question is thus easily resolved when you think of gravity as a pushing force acting from outside instead of a pulling force acting from within.

Space pressure alone is however not enough to keep things together because, although it's the most fundamental force, it's too weak and rarefied, too spread out, to act powerfully enough on it's own at a single point. It does initially help to push elements and help bind them together (in concert with other bonding forces) but an extra force is needed to strengthen the bonds and enhance a body's compression. That force is rotational motion created by an electromagnetic spiralling effect that usually emanates from a body's poles and meets at its center. This rotating motion actually creates friction against space which increases the compressive effects of space pressure. It's not unlike the strong downpressure of air on a fast car. The faster you move the the higher the air resistance becomes, the more intensely you get pushed down and the more energy you thus need to keep moving forward. It's a similar principle with a body rotating against the pressure of space. This is why fast rotating things, regardless of their size, always experiences an increase in g's (gravity force). The faster the body rotates the more intense the effects of the space friction and the higher the pressure on the body becomes.

When viewed from a distance space friction can be seen in action as a planet with an atmosphere would leave some of its atmosphere behind in a faint streaming tail perpendicular to its star's solar wind direction as it moves through space. What else could strip a planet's atmosphere like that if not a frictional force of some kind which in this case would be space itself. It is also a reason why a planet's atmosphere needs to be constantly replenished. The solar wind doesn't affect it as much on a planet with a strong protective magnetic field which largely diverts it around the planet as space pressure does which directly touches a planet as gravity.

Why then doesn't these two combined effects of gravity and the effect of rotation intensifying space friction cause a body to be crushed into a point? It is because a rotating body, due to centrifugal force, creates an outward pressure which counters the compressive force of gravity and the further compressive force generated by rotation against space (centripetal force). When expansive centrifugal force balances out with compressive centripetal force you get a stable body that is capable of withstanding the combined effects of gravity and compressive rotational pressure. This is also why most normal, natural rotating bodies are hollow and not solid. When either of these forces get out of balance a body will either explode or compress to massive, maximum density. It will not implode to a infinite singularity point, also known as a "black hole", which doesn't exist but are actually highly compressed (high gravity) dark bodies. If you should try to enter a "black hole" you wouldn't go to some fantastical realm but just go SPLAT on the dark gravity bodies' surface.

This balanced interaction between centripetal and centrifugal forces are also the reason why space bodies in a solar system and galaxy do not fall inwards towards the center but stay in their balanced orbits around the central points. It is also the reason satellites, and anything else artificial, can stay in orbit if placed at the correct balancing points and travelling at the correct velocity.

As gravity is thus an ambient omnidirectional space pressure field scientists will never discover "gravity waves" (despite such claims) because there are none nor things like graviton particles carrying gravity, although there is the first and primary material particle called the "Ultimaton" (see www.urantiabook.org/archive/readers/ultimatons-electrons-atom​s.htm for a more scientific explanation) ,which is the first and primary particle of matter that gives all other matter weight upon which gravity pressure can then act. Gravity is not something carried on something from somewhere else because it is already an omnidirectional pressure presence everywhere, like the air surrounding you.

Sir Isaac Newton got it wrong. Earth didn't pull the apple onto his head. Earth and space acted together to push it out of the tree and onto his head and thus began a misconception about gravity that still persists today.
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what is funny is it is pinned threads like this that make more flat earthers.
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Dumb people never really know they're dumb. All smart people are aware of who is dumb and who isn't.

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..and being deliberatly ignorant is evil. And if by doing so you manipulate the opinion of the gullible it's a crime against humanity.

Jeranism, Dubay and their ilk should be wiped from the planet or at least completely demonetized.
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Dumb people never really know they're dumb. All smart people are aware of who is dumb and who isn't.

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..and being deliberatly ignorant is evil. And if by doing so you manipulate the opinion of the gullible it's a crime against humanity.

Jeranism, Dubay and their ilk should be wiped from the planet or at least completely demonetized.
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Eric Dubay is the real deal.

Bob, Jeran, Morgile, Nathan, Flattie Patty, Sergeant Mark etc. are disinfo Intelligence clowns.

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Dumb people never really know they're dumb. All smart people are aware of who is dumb and who isn't.

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"John Wayne", aka Marion Morrison, was born female.

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"A long-range laser was used to measure the flatness of the waters at the Três Marias Dam in Minas Gerais; at the Lagoa dos Patos, in Rio Grande do Sul; at Lake Titicaca in Peru"

I am just a lowly cook but that lake experiment gets me.


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(((They))) always say "refraction", "mirage" or, hilariously, "Gravity!"

Then, they be like lala

cruise
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I know right? I am not arguing one way or the other just look at the damn experiment ffs.
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Giving yourself a reach around to subvert the Flat Earth Truth. Priceless
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I just exposed another flat earth lie. Kiss my ass.
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Flat Earth stuff aside, can you explain this? I just want to hear your explanation of the Sun, being between cloud layers.

What do you think?


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its because the recording device, in this case a cheap digital chip, cannot resolve the extraordinarily low light-level difference between the direct luminosity of the sun, and an extremely thin wisp of cloud passing in front of it.

try this, stand on the shore 30 minutes after sunrise... don't try looking for the earth to curve away on either side, thinking that's what would happen on a sphere. because that would be the effect of being on the side of a cylinder...

better, stare directly into the sun. go ahead, its safe. then take a sheet of tin foil and pass it across your eyes. does it block out the sun?
then take a tightly stretched sheet of saran wrap and pass it in front of your eyes. are you able to see the sun? chances are, you wont even be able to see the sheet of saran wrap.

now, don't be fooled, just because you cant see the saran wrap doesn't mean it passed behind the sun...

well, if you're a flat earther it does...

it means that the recording device you are using. namely your eyeball/brain doesn't have the bit-depth to detect the infinitesimally small difference between "sun" and "saran wrap + sun".

this is why a cheep digital camera, with poor bit depth is unable to record the difference between the sun, and a thin wisp of water vapor passing in front of it.

very very very low bit depth
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A very well stated explanation.
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They just can't be honest. A popular flat earther called me fraud for claiming moonlight does not make things colder, but he only shows the first few seconds of my video where I'm showing what I was about to debunk. Here's what he showed as well as my response.

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And your posting this here because?

You want sympathy?

Go home and cry to your mom.... Astro Shill
Your whole online work is a fraud, you pretend to be a DR but don't even have a degree.
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They just can't be honest. A popular flat earther called me fraud for claiming moonlight does not make things colder, but he only shows the first few seconds of my video where I'm showing what I was about to debunk. Here's what he showed as well as my response.

 Quoting: Astroshill


And your posting this here because?

You want sympathy?

Go home and cry to your mom.... Astro Shill
Your whole online work is a fraud, you pretend to be a DR but don't even have a degree.
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A degree is a no no with you flat earthers as that is a mason thing right?

ROFLMAO!

You guys can't keep your stories straight anymore....
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Giving yourself a reach around to subvert the Flat Earth Truth. Priceless
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I just exposed another flat earth lie. Kiss my ass.
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Flat Earth stuff aside, can you explain this? I just want to hear your explanation of the Sun, being between cloud layers.

What do you think?


 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan


The differing color clouds obviously contain different amounts of water. Notice the ones that "appear" to go behind the sun are very light while the ones that do block the sun light are very dark.

I've personally been in airplanes that have flown higher than every cloud in the sky while the sun was obviously still far away. If the sun is literally in the cloud layer as is proposed it should be easy enough to go fly a plane over and video it.
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Dumb people never really know they're dumb. All smart people are aware of who is dumb and who isn't.

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"John Wayne", aka Marion Morrison, was born female.

5a
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British projection. Lol. Aren't most British "men" gay these days?
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Most men, everywhere, have been fooled by trannyism, as an intelligent guy such as yourself, well knows.

"Marilyn Monroe", aka Norman John Mortenson, was born male. That is now indisputable fact.

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It is okay to admit you were duped.
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Dumb people never really know they're dumb. All smart people are aware of who is dumb and who isn't.

:johnwayne:
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..and being deliberatly ignorant is evil. And if by doing so you manipulate the opinion of the gullible it's a crime against humanity.

Jeranism, Dubay and their ilk should be wiped from the planet or at least completely demonetized.
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Deliberate ignorance is not evil. It's just a choice to not want to know. Normal ignorance is just not knowing something yet.

"Sin" is only natural mistakes and nothing more than learning experiences in the process of learning about life and God's laws. If you learn and grow from it and don't repeat it then you've overcome it.

When sin becomes a willful continuos act of rebellion against God and God's laws then it becomes evil. Evil is thus the knowing of God's Laws and deliberately acting against them and Him.

Also a reminder. There is no hell. God is loving and merciful, give's plenty of chances and will never eternally damn and torture His children. Hell is only religious fearmongering to keep the plebs in line, nothing more.
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They just can't be honest. A popular flat earther called me fraud for claiming moonlight does not make things colder, but he only shows the first few seconds of my video where I'm showing what I was about to debunk. Here's what he showed as well as my response.

 Quoting: Astroshill


And your posting this here because?

You want sympathy?

Go home and cry to your mom.... Astro Shill
Your whole online work is a fraud, you pretend to be a DR but don't even have a degree.
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A degree is a no no with you flat earthers as that is a mason thing right?

ROFLMAO!

You guys can't keep your stories straight anymore....
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I couldn't understand a word you just said.

The fact you think we change our stories, just because a guy on this forum cries because he can't bully this guy is a joke. the earth is flat. WAKE UP
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"John Wayne", aka Marion Morrison, was born female.

5a
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British projection. Lol. Aren't most British "men" gay these days?
 Quoting: Chip


Most men, everywhere, have been fooled by trannyism, as an intelligent guy such as yourself, well knows.

"Marilyn Monroe", aka Norman John Mortenson, was born male. That is now indisputable fact.

drevil
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Ahhh...I see! You're one of those "everything is fake" dudes. Lol...

:coolstory:
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Yes. Pretty much everything IS fake.

As CIA Director, William Casey, said, to POTUS Ronald Reagan;

We’ll Know Our Disinformation Program Is Complete When Everything the American Public Believes Is False.

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It is okay to admit you were duped.
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Then why don't you admit it?
"A long-range laser was used to measure the flatness of the waters at the Três Marias Dam in Minas Gerais; at the Lagoa dos Patos, in Rio Grande do Sul; at Lake Titicaca in Peru"

I am just a lowly cook but that lake experiment gets me.


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Why do you keep promoting the toilet bowl troll liars?
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Giving yourself a reach around to subvert the Flat Earth Truth. Priceless
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I just exposed another flat earth lie. Kiss my ass.
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Flat Earth stuff aside, can you explain this? I just want to hear your explanation of the Sun, being between cloud layers.

What do you think?


 Quoting: Doctor Manhattan


Hmmm. Some clouds are obviously in front, but others do seem to go behind the Sun's disc.

"They" will probably just say it's an "optical illusion" and go lala

drevil
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Jeez, the optical illusion is in your head. The less dense clouds can’t create enough contrast for the sensor in the camera to register. Only the thicker (darker) clouds are able to obscure enough light be registered. Your mind then implies the lack of visual cues as an indicator of depth.

Come on!
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They just can't be honest. A popular flat earther called me fraud for claiming moonlight does not make things colder, but he only shows the first few seconds of my video where I'm showing what I was about to debunk. Here's what he showed as well as my response.

 Quoting: Astroshill


And your posting this here because?

You want sympathy?

Go home and cry to your mom.... Astro Shill
Your whole online work is a fraud, you pretend to be a DR but don't even have a degree.
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I'm posting this here to expose the lies. I'm not a fraud and I do have a PhD. You're wrong about me in every single way.
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You are a frsud
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Nope. You're done on my threads.
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I was fine with you a long time app
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I am not a fraud. Get off my threads you fucking stupid bastard.
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You’re a moderator? Now I see what others have been saying about this place. Lol.
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They just can't be honest. A popular flat earther called me fraud for claiming moonlight does not make things colder, but he only shows the first few seconds of my video where I'm showing what I was about to debunk. Here's what he showed as well as my response.

 Quoting: Astroshill


And your posting this here because?

You want sympathy?

Go home and cry to your mom.... Astro Shill
Your whole online work is a fraud, you pretend to be a DR but don't even have a degree.
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A degree is a no no with you flat earthers as that is a mason thing right?

ROFLMAO!

You guys can't keep your stories straight anymore....
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I couldn't understand a word you just said.

The fact you think we change our stories, just because a guy on this forum cries because he can't bully this guy is a joke. the earth is flat. WAKE UP
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You have never seen the earth from above so how do you know it is flat?
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how would the moon EVER have a STRAIGHT LINE SHADOW on its surface from a Round earth





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