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Do YOU Think God Is Real?

 
NoFriendOfTheWorld

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


Yes. There is no need to prove the existence of God. The proof is all around us, evident in His creation.

What people don't understand is that only God's elect, chosen family (church) will believe in Him because He has predestined them to come into the fold. They are called sheep (lost at first when they're born).

Goats will never believe. They are born goats and the Bible calls them vessels of wrath, fitted to destruction. They were born to be taken and destroyed.

Sheep WILL believe at the exact appointed time in their life, no sooner, no later. You could give a goat all the evidence in the world, and he/she will NEVER believe. God has ordained them to hell.

So, if you can see and hear the truth, drop to your knees and give praise to God through the Lord Jesus Christ who has saved His family from their sins, whose names have been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


You sound like a Calvinist. How sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


OP, I'm sorry someone has lied to you. I'm not a "calvinist." I'm a Bible-believing Christian.

Have you read the Bible? What do you make of the following verses?

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Romans 8:29

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Ephesians 1:4


In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Ephesians 1:11


And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48 (note that only certain people had the ability to believe the gospel - those who were ordained to eternal life)

These are not John Calvin's words. This is the Word of God.


Regarding unbelievers:

But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 2 Peter 2:12

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: Romans 9:22


So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Romans 9:16-18

OP, I don't know if you're a vessel of mercy or a vessel of wrath, but if you long for the truth, read the Word of God. Seek the truth.
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Yes.

God is the metaphysical structure of the universe. For more, read this book: [link to www.academia.edu (secure)]

I am one of the authors.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


Yes. There is no need to prove the existence of God. The proof is all around us, evident in His creation.

What people don't understand is that only God's elect, chosen family (church) will believe in Him because He has predestined them to come into the fold. They are called sheep (lost at first when they're born).

Goats will never believe. They are born goats and the Bible calls them vessels of wrath, fitted to destruction. They were born to be taken and destroyed.

Sheep WILL believe at the exact appointed time in their life, no sooner, no later. You could give a goat all the evidence in the world, and he/she will NEVER believe. God has ordained them to hell.

So, if you can see and hear the truth, drop to your knees and give praise to God through the Lord Jesus Christ who has saved His family from their sins, whose names have been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


You sound like a Calvinist. How sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


OP, I'm sorry someone has lied to you. I'm not a "calvinist." I'm a Bible-believing Christian.

Have you read the Bible? What do you make of the following verses?

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Romans 8:29

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Ephesians 1:4


In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Ephesians 1:11


And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48 (note that only certain people had the ability to believe the gospel - those who were ordained to eternal life)

These are not John Calvin's words. This is the Word of God.


Regarding unbelievers:

But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; 2 Peter 2:12

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: Romans 9:22


So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Romans 9:16-18

OP, I don't know if you're a vessel of mercy or a vessel of wrath, but if you long for the truth, read the Word of God. Seek the truth.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


Idol1 To tell you the truth,..it sounds like a Moses2.0 will rise out of the ashes within this decayed and decrepit Societystoner
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Yes, absolutely. He is infinite in knowledge, power, and wisdom.

He is sovereign.

He is good.

He is faithful.
Living for true life.
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You are about to start finding out in real life, I wouldn't worry about it much.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


The 'Good News' is about how mankind's disconnection from God can be reestablished thru that one man Jesus Christ and His Way. We fell from grace through Adam and we arise through Jesus Christ. The Good News is about 'The Way' of Jesus Christ or how to live here now and how to get ready for life there later.

The Good Lord Jesus Christ's works as witnessed, are 4 books out of 66 that make up the modern Bible. Those 4 books only 120 pages in length are titled Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are also called the Gospel of Jesus Christ, 'The Truth' or 'The Good News' aka The Owner's Manual To These Flesh Suits we drive until we leave them for home by God's Grace via Jesus Christ's sacrifice.

Jesus Christ's philosophy or Way was handed to him from his Father, our Father....the God of All Creations. It is a philosophy of grace...it is not a performance based philosophy....you can do nothing but accept it as a gift of God's grace.

Become FREE for FREE==> [link to www.e-sword.net (secure)] Download an additional bible called the GNB or Good News Bible (it is in everyday easy English) for easy reading. Included are commentaries on each passage to help with difficult areas. The Lord desires to develop a personal relationship as a parent to child, brother to brother and brother to sister with us.

I do know the LARGE ORGANISED RELIGIONS are all wrong. It is more of a control mechanism over the human race. If parishioners actually read the Lord's words, they would not go to the LARGE ORGANISED RELIGIONS.
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Large organized religion poisoned my spirit and soul.
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Yes.

God is the metaphysical structure of the universe. For more, read this book: [link to www.academia.edu (secure)]

I am one of the authors.
 Quoting: TheFutureOnes 77605334


angryface I'm not going to download that!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


If you're looking and haven't seen anything he's saying you suck op.

Really seek and ye shall find.

Your heart isn't there probably never will be.
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NO! Don't care either!
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God is absolutely real, as is His Son our Savior Jesus, the True Messiah.
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No
And I reject your thoughts of "another fool"
I think the syncronicities people experience have another source yet to be explained. But as a whole I think the comfort of never ending and feeling of oneness one feels when praising something outside themselves has value so I am no longer a militant atheist.
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The Bibles prophecy's are rolling out just as it says. The book was written long ago. I just cannot fathom how one couldn't believe.
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This is my opinion and also all of creation. The odds of it being random are too high and.... it’s still the chicken and the egg.
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Religion wise no. Overall? Probably a God or Gods or something along those lines. I know it's silly to contemplate something you'll never know but I do wish more than anything that I knew the answer.
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The god of the bible is really Satan himself.
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hesright
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Don't make me think when I am this high.
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Yes. I think there is a Creator. I'm not discounting other extra-terrestrials either, but I definitely think there is a Creator who set the universe in motion and through mathematics & physics created the big bang. Someone/something had to create that "giant ball of dust" that led to the big bang.

I still contend that many of the gods of legend were actually alien civilizations since greek, roman, norse and even jewish gods all resided on mountains.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


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No. If there is a god, he/she/it is undeserving of love. In fact, were the fairy tale proven true, he would have to explain why he has allowed thousands of years of pure misery to fall on his "children" he claims to love. No decent earthly father would do that. No good father would say to his children: "show me obedience, and I MIGHT feed you, heal you, comfort you. It all depends on my "will". In fact, I want more than obedience -- I want your love and worship before I can assure you of being able to live with me. Otherwise, I'll kick you out and not think again of you."

Yet, we have otherwise intelligent people falling for the fraud. We're told to ignore the disease, the poverty, the wars, the afflictions, the horrors of this world. We're then told that those are brought on by ourselves, by our free will, and that he cannot intervene. So, we have a "father" who never corrects the misdeeds of his children, who doesn't even stop them while they're committing the atrocities. He will allow the innocent to suffer because someone exercises their free will. He can't, for example, seem to cause that gun to jam when one of his "children" robs and shoots an innocent person. He can't intervene, even supernaturally, to stop the rapist, the murderer, the abuser or any of the other horrors inflicted by his children. He cannot seem to get the energy to protect those he claims to love. All he can do is demand love and worship. And money, of course, through those who love and worship him.

I was a Christian for about 40 years of my life. It was quite disconcerting to come to the realization that all of it is just one big mind-fuck. But I ultimately never felt more free and spiritually uplifted. Oh, now I can hear the Christians parrot: "oh, then you were never REALLY a Christian because god blah blah blah...." LOL, yeah, like you would know...

Thankfully, I've also come to realize that while we are eternal, spiritual beings, we don't need that psychopath, a/k/a/ "god". He never existed and never will. WE are self-existent and self-created. The concept of a god is useless once you realize what we really are...
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yep..the universe is not random. It's perfect macro and microscopically. Only 'GOD' could do that
 Quoting: diverdan01


I've considered that. That's a very good compelling reason

hmm I wonder why God is so distant and seems to take a hands off approach toward humans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


He is giving you free will. You are to choose your own path or choose Him to help and guide you.

There is no predestiny. The path is still your own choosing.
That was the whole accusation made by Satan and why everything has unfolded since Adam and Eve fell for the lies.

God is Real. Even evil people who choose to rebel against what is good and serve Satan know that God is real.

So we have compelling evidence from both sides.
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If Yes, please post your best compelling reason.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554


[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com (secure)]

No. If there is a god, he/she/it is undeserving of love. In fact, were the fairy tale proven true, he would have to explain why he has allowed thousands of years of pure misery to fall on his "children" he claims to love. No decent earthly father would do that. No good father would say to his children: "show me obedience, and I MIGHT feed you, heal you, comfort you. It all depends on my "will". In fact, I want more than obedience -- I want your love and worship before I can assure you of being able to live with me. Otherwise, I'll kick you out and not think again of you."

Yet, we have otherwise intelligent people falling for the fraud. We're told to ignore the disease, the poverty, the wars, the afflictions, the horrors of this world. We're then told that those are brought on by ourselves, by our free will, and that he cannot intervene. So, we have a "father" who never corrects the misdeeds of his children, who doesn't even stop them while they're committing the atrocities. He will allow the innocent to suffer because someone exercises their free will. He can't, for example, seem to cause that gun to jam when one of his "children" robs and shoots an innocent person. He can't intervene, even supernaturally, to stop the rapist, the murderer, the abuser or any of the other horrors inflicted by his children. He cannot seem to get the energy to protect those he claims to love. All he can do is demand love and worship. And money, of course, through those who love and worship him.

I was a Christian for about 40 years of my life. It was quite disconcerting to come to the realization that all of it is just one big mind-fuck. But I ultimately never felt more free and spiritually uplifted. Oh, now I can hear the Christians parrot: "oh, then you were never REALLY a Christian because god blah blah blah...." LOL, yeah, like you would know...

Thankfully, I've also come to realize that while we are eternal, spiritual beings, we don't need that psychopath, a/k/a/ "god". He never existed and never will. WE are self-existent and self-created. The concept of a god is useless once you realize what we really are...
 Quoting: Tars Tarkas, Jr.


I struggle too with the same thoughts, if we are all one fractalized eternal being etc, which means that all the things that lead me to question God which are the things you also mentioned, are whose failures? I don't really wish to be a failed god because a god failed to meet basic compassionate standards so there is no god so I take hisherits place with zillions of others fractals or not, who is responsible for these horrible things if not other fractals if I choose good?

no it doesn't make any sense.

there is no god and we are not eternal and that's ok I prefer good and doing no harm.

makes more sense.

there is a god and I may or may not be eternal and this god is unknown, but I do no harm and prefer good over evil. this makes more sense. slightly.
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yep..the universe is not random. It's perfect macro and microscopically. Only 'GOD' could do that
 Quoting: diverdan01


No, not 'only God could do that.'
“All sacrificing without faith and divine desire is an abonimation before God, and does not reach the gate of divine glory; but if man enters therein with the power of faith, he surrenders to it his free will, and desires by that means, and through its instrumentality, to enter into the eternal free will of God.” (Mysterium, xxvii. 13.)

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ABSOLUTELY
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[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com (secure)]

No. If there is a god, he/she/it is undeserving of love. In fact, were the fairy tale proven true, he would have to explain why he has allowed thousands of years of pure misery to fall on his "children" he claims to love. No decent earthly father would do that. No good father would say to his children: "show me obedience, and I MIGHT feed you, heal you, comfort you. It all depends on my "will". In fact, I want more than obedience -- I want your love and worship before I can assure you of being able to live with me. Otherwise, I'll kick you out and not think again of you."

Yet, we have otherwise intelligent people falling for the fraud. We're told to ignore the disease, the poverty, the wars, the afflictions, the horrors of this world. We're then told that those are brought on by ourselves, by our free will, and that he cannot intervene. So, we have a "father" who never corrects the misdeeds of his children, who doesn't even stop them while they're committing the atrocities. He will allow the innocent to suffer because someone exercises their free will. He can't, for example, seem to cause that gun to jam when one of his "children" robs and shoots an innocent person. He can't intervene, even supernaturally, to stop the rapist, the murderer, the abuser or any of the other horrors inflicted by his children. He cannot seem to get the energy to protect those he claims to love. All he can do is demand love and worship. And money, of course, through those who love and worship him.

I was a Christian for about 40 years of my life. It was quite disconcerting to come to the realization that all of it is just one big mind-fuck. But I ultimately never felt more free and spiritually uplifted. Oh, now I can hear the Christians parrot: "oh, then you were never REALLY a Christian because god blah blah blah...." LOL, yeah, like you would know...

Thankfully, I've also come to realize that while we are eternal, spiritual beings, we don't need that psychopath, a/k/a/ "god". He never existed and never will. WE are self-existent and self-created. The concept of a god is useless once you realize what we really are...
 Quoting: Tars Tarkas, Jr.


I struggle too with the same thoughts, if we are all one fractalized eternal being etc, which means that all the things that lead me to question God which are the things you also mentioned, are whose failures? I don't really wish to be a failed god because a god failed to meet basic compassionate standards so there is no god so I take hisherits place with zillions of others fractals or not, who is responsible for these horrible things if not other fractals if I choose good?

no it doesn't make any sense.

there is no god and we are not eternal and that's ok I prefer good and doing no harm.

makes more sense.

there is a god and I may or may not be eternal and this god is unknown, but I do no harm and prefer good over evil. this makes more sense. slightly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78202819


plus how can you be spiritually uplifted after questioning God and finding him//her/it guilty therefore unable to be a god and at the same time saying you are self-created that we all are, how can you find that uplifting with the shit happening entirely because of us?





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