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27 But he will strengthen the covenant for a week. And in the middle of the week the sacrifice and meal offering will stop. And in the wings will stand the abomination of desolation, until the ruin which is resolved will pour over the devastation.

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27 But he will strengthen the covenant for a week. And in the middle of the week the sacrifice and meal offering will stop. And in the wings will stand the abomination of desolation, until the ruin which is resolved will pour over the devastation.

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When did Judah recieve Jerusalem from The Roman Empire after Rome ransacked it 70AD and had Judah scrambling throughout the Middle East and India and Africa?
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The Abomination of desolation happened 2000 years ago. And the sin of the Ysraelites has not been atoned for since according to the prophecy of Daniel.

OP are you saying The abomination of desolation never happened yet even though The Messiah was born 2000 years ago and was crucied 2000 years ago and Rome ransacked and crushed the temple 2000 years ago?


Your prophetic math doesnt add up.
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Luke 21:24

24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.



This happened 2000 years ago, 70AD.
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No pumpkin

The Antichrist has not been revealed

Yet....
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Damn rooks

Always misquoting the Book
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Luke 21:24

24 They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.



This happened 2000 years ago, 70AD.
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And the time of the gentiles has not been up for 2000 years. If your prophecy timeline is true, then those "Ashkenazis" will be taken from Jerusalem by THE ROMAN EMPIRE and scattered to every nation as slaves.


Your prophetic math doesnt not add up because Askenazis and the majority of Palestinians ARE GENTILES. JERUSALEM AND ITS TEMPLE WERE RANSACKED 2000 YEARS AGO, WHICH MEANS THE YSREALITES ARE STILL PRISONERS AND THE GENTILES TIME HAS NOT BEEN FULFILLED AS NO YSREALITE HAS ATONED FOR THE SIN OF ORDERING THE CRUCIFIXION.
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No pumpkin

The Antichrist has not been revealed

Yet....
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The antichrist has been identified 2000 years ago according to 1John 2:22.
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Your Christ says you can do greater miracles than him and yet no one has demonstrated that. The ones who cant demonstrate miracles like him are indeed under the spell of antichrist.
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Are you done yet?

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Are you done yet?

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Are The Romans going to smash The Temple again? Oh that happened 2000 years ago.
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Nope. Not done yet I see.

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Nope. Not done yet I see.

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Show me the Temple that is still standing that is supposed to be smashed according to the prophecy of 70 weeks in The Book of Daniel.

If the "Rabbis" of Judaism know the 70 week prophecy has yet to be fulfilled, why don't they worn the askenazis of The Romans who will scatter them among nations all over the world as slaves? And are they aware of the temple being already smashed 70ad?
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Don't be lazy. Go do your own research and stop asking me to validate you.

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how can one face failure having never faced success...failure is only registered if one has fulfilled a successful position ...there is no failure for those who have never succeeded...lol
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27 But he will strengthen the covenant for a week. And in the middle of the week the sacrifice and meal offering will stop. And in the wings will stand the abomination of desolation, until the ruin which is resolved will pour over the devastation.

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 Quoting: WGON


Ah! The often misquoted prophecy from Daniel, one of my faves!


In NO translation of the Bible does the word peace or treaty exist, this is called eisegesis. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants, instead of the proper Exegesis.


Think about it OP, the simple answer is what "covenants" was Daniel familiar with? Of course that would be the Mosaic covenant aka the Sinaitic covenant


What does this "person" do with the covenant? He strengthens it, as can be seen in the VERY next sentence "But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to "sacrifice and offering." What was part of the Mosaic covenant? "sacrifice and offering." There are no sacrifices and offerings being done today, Obviously this person in the text strengthens or a better translation is CONFIRMS the covenant which reintroduces sacrifices and offerings & then he abruptly stops them & demands all worship be towards himself
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27 But he will strengthen the covenant for a week. And in the middle of the week the sacrifice and meal offering will stop. And in the wings will stand the abomination of desolation, until the ruin which is resolved will pour over the devastation.

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No, first comes Daniel 8 in the near east.
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6000 years back, First Adam of Gen.1's creation took place on the 6th day.

from then to Last Adam in the 'blueprint' story 2000 years pass...as in 6th and 7th day of rest passed.. then Last Adam of Gen.2.

from Last Adams formation and death 930 years latter to Jesus is 3000 years.

Since Jesus 2000 years pass totaling 5 days or 5000 years.

We are to experience 1000 years of PEACE.... for a time of 6000 years.

Jesus caused the SACRIFICES to stop in the midst of the week

3000/3 days then JESUS 3000/3 days peace ends around 3000 A.D.

Then what takes place?

The message of WAR returns for a short time....as opposition and resistance....most likely against the TRUTH that PEACE is the best way....issues forth once more.

as it is written...



Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
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Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,


The 1000 years of PEACE/future are as the 1000 years of REST/past....each as 1 day.

Exactly in the middle of the 6 day week as in First Adam's creation....Jesus First Adam (following the blueprint type) appears.

Exactly 2 days (2000 years) latter Last Adam appeared in the blueprint of Genesis 1 and 2....

The CORPORATE BODY OF JESUS (Last Adam) appears around 2000 A.D. exactly on time.

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The AntiChrist is a bitch and i think im the only person in history that can ever say that
Verified bitch
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27 But he will strengthen the covenant for a week. And in the middle of the week the sacrifice and meal offering will stop. And in the wings will stand the abomination of desolation, until the ruin which is resolved will pour over the devastation.

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 Quoting: WGON


Ah! The often misquoted prophecy from Daniel, one of my faves!


In NO translation of the Bible does the word peace or treaty exist, this is called eisegesis. The word exegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants, instead of the proper Exegesis.


Think about it OP, the simple answer is what "covenants" was Daniel familiar with? Of course that would be the Mosaic covenant aka the Sinaitic covenant


What does this "person" do with the covenant? He strengthens it, as can be seen in the VERY next sentence "But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to "sacrifice and offering." What was part of the Mosaic covenant? "sacrifice and offering." There are no sacrifices and offerings being done today, Obviously this person in the text strengthens or a better translation is CONFIRMS the covenant which reintroduces sacrifices and offerings & then he abruptly stops them & demands all worship be towards himself
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Your exegesis is incorrect.
Your exegesis is apparently from the English, not from the original language and all Bible scholars would disagree with you on you interpretation, as it is greatly flawed.

Covenant((berith) was a common word on the OT.
Our concept of a legal "contract" comes from a Covenant.

So almost all business transactions were Covenants, Marriages are Covenants and Treaties are Covenants. Just to name a few types of covenants.
Covenants like contract come in many forms and deal with many different issues.

As far as the AC introducing the sacrifices, that is foolish.
To do so requires rebuilding the Temple. Without a temple you can not sacrifice(ask any Rabbi).
The temple will take roughly 7 yrs to rebuild as it has historically taken this long.
Since he breaks the treaty at roughly the 3.5 year mark, The temple would not be completed and no sacrifices could be taking place. Thus Scripture could not be fulfilled.
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27 But he will strengthen the covenant for a week. And in the middle of the week the sacrifice and meal offering will stop. And in the wings will stand the abomination of desolation, until the ruin which is resolved will pour over the devastation.

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70 AD the Romans defiled the temple by sacrificing pigs.
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The Abomination of desolation happened 2000 years ago. And the sin of the Ysraelites has not been atoned for since according to the prophecy of Daniel.

OP are you saying The abomination of desolation never happened yet even though The Messiah was born 2000 years ago and was crucied 2000 years ago and Rome ransacked and crushed the temple 2000 years ago?


Your prophetic math doesnt add up.
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No the Abomination of Desolation did not occur 2000 yrs ago. Only "A Desolation" of the Temple.
It has been desolated several times.
None of the rest of the Prophecies that go with the Desolation of Abomination were completed at that time as required.
So it was not the Desolation of Abomination.


In 70 AD, There was no Beast/AC and no False Prophet, there were not 2 Witneses, witnessing against him.
The sun and the stars were not Darkened, the moon did not turn red, there were not earthquakes, etc.
there was no "mark of the Beast" issued to everyone, etc.

Scripture is exact, as is Prophecy, you can not cherry pick verses and claim fulfillment. It fulfills ALL of the required occurrences or it is not the Fulfillment of that event or the sequence of those events.
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The Abomination of desolation happened 2000 years ago. And the sin of the Ysraelites has not been atoned for since according to the prophecy of Daniel.

OP are you saying The abomination of desolation never happened yet even though The Messiah was born 2000 years ago and was crucied 2000 years ago and Rome ransacked and crushed the temple 2000 years ago?


Your prophetic math doesnt add up.
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No the Abomination of Desolation did not occur 2000 yrs ago. Only "A Desolation" of the Temple.
It has been desolated several times.
None of the rest of the Prophecies that go with the Desolation of Abomination were completed at that time as required.
So it was not the Desolation of Abomination.


In 70 AD, There was no Beast/AC and no False Prophet, there were not 2 Witneses, witnessing against him.
The sun and the stars were not Darkened, the moon did not turn red, there were not earthquakes, etc.
there was no "mark of the Beast" issued to everyone, etc.

Scripture is exact, as is Prophecy, you can not cherry pick verses and claim fulfillment. It fulfills ALL of the required occurrences or it is not the Fulfillment of that event or the sequence of those events.
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2000 years is a long time to be decieved. No wonder rome created the false name jesus and islam and scientific theories that promote atheism. Askenazis are gentiles according to the prophecy of Danial and truth.
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27 But he will strengthen the covenant for a week. And in the middle of the week the sacrifice and meal offering will stop. And in the wings will stand the abomination of desolation, until the ruin which is resolved will pour over the devastation.

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manhole5
 Quoting: WGON


Ah! The often misquoted prophecy from Daniel, one of my faves!


In NO translation of the Bible does the word peace or treaty exist, this is called eisegesis. The word eisegesis literally means “to lead into,” which means the interpreter injects his own ideas into the text, making it mean whatever he wants, instead of the proper Exegesis.



 Quoting: Mathetes 2.0


Like when the text of Mark 13:14 instructs: "let the reader understand"?

Anyway, I already thought thought it. Even posted a thread about it here:


Thread: The dogma that states the antichrist will "broker a 7 year peace deal" in the Middle East
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Can someone post the source for the dogma that states the antichrist will "broker a 7 year peace deal" in the Middle East?

"He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"
Daniel 9:27

How has that come to mean over the years: "broker a 7 year peace deal" in the Middle East?
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What if everyone's wrong and it's NOT 7 years, but literally One Week. Like 5 days maybe. 120 hours perhaps.

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7 years, 9 months since spirit intimation personally.
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New 150 hour (6.25 day) deal starts Wednesday:

The Latest: UN: Over 176,000 displaced by Turkish offensive
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Russian and Turkish leaders have made a deal to share control of Syria’s northeast that requires Kurdish fighters to clear the entire length of the Syria-Turkey border.

The deal allows Turkey to maintain control of areas it pushed into launching its offensive into Syria earlier this month.

The agreement allows Russian and Syrian troops to control the rest of the border.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan also agreed that their troops will conduct joint patrols of the border area.

The agreement gives Kurdish fighters another 150 hours beginning Wednesday afternoon to clear all remaining areas alongside the 440-kilometer Turkey-Syria border.



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Daniel 9:27
And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Two things need to be addressed concerning the he and what he does in this verse, and they are both answered by the verse itself.

he shall confirm

The word in Hebrew that is translated as confirm is Gabar, it means to strengthen, enforce

YESHUA did not confirm the covenant.

I will Make a New Covenant. Jer 31:31

Make is the Hebrew word Karath, to cut or make a covenant.

The he of Daniel 9:27 Strengthens a pre-existing covenant with many.

with many

Many is the Hebrew word Rab

the phrase is one word in Hebrew L'rabim and it's a adjective describing that the covenant that is strengthened, that already exist with many parties to it, is made stronger.

the he strengthens a pre-existing covenant with the many

anyone care to take a guess what that covenant might be,
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The covenant with the many that the he of Daniel 9:27

began as the "roadmap for peace" when george W bush made his two states in Israel speech in 2002

Ezekiel 36:5
Therefore thus saith the Adonai YHWH; Surely in the fire of My jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed My land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey.

For those that don't know, the usa pressured Israel to make a step towards two states by having Israel give up the Gaza.

The Exact Day that the J people that were living in the Gaza, that had already left their homes were no longer allowed to return, Hurricane Katrina Hit the usa

The Exact Day that 8000 J people could not return to their homes, 800,000 in the usa lost theirs.

There is more the Bible has to say about the covenant with many that is currently the quartet of nations

usa, russia, european union, un

and how they would do it.

coming up, have to do something for a bit.
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The Judgement of the Nations is for parting His Land and against all the false shepherds that keep His people captive.

Joel 3:2
I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Yahushaphat, and will plead with them there for My people and for My heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted My land.

YHWH

Shaphat Judges

In this verse we are given two reasons for YHWH gathering ALL nations into this final Judgement.

His people are scattered among the nations, and those holding them captive will not let them go.

there's a pharaoh behind every pulpit of every church, that has drawn His people away from their inheritance in Him

And the Nations Part His Land, Two States in Israel

The anti-messiah will enforce two states, strengthen the already existing framework that has been set out.

How do, or did the nations decide to Part His Land?

By a vote, All Nations, The United Nations, selling out Judah to the Grecians.

Greece the birthplace of Democracy

The nations have already voted, the usa abstaining, but that really doesn't matter, the usa was the first nation to openly propose as a "solution" to the Palestinian problem that Israel be divided into two states, Katrina was just a warning, nuclear war comes next

Joel 3:6
The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.

3:9 Proclaim ye this among the nations; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:

Zechariah 14:12
And this shall be the plague wherewith YHWH will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

tongues eyes dissolved in their sockets while still standing, Nukes

The covenant of death shall not stand. Isaiah 28:15







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The Abomination of desolation happened 2000 years ago. And the sin of the Ysraelites has not been atoned for since according to the prophecy of Daniel.

OP are you saying The abomination of desolation never happened yet even though The Messiah was born 2000 years ago and was crucied 2000 years ago and Rome ransacked and crushed the temple 2000 years ago?


Your prophetic math doesnt add up.
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The Abomination of Desolation has not happened yet.
The Romans did a desolate the Temple in 70 AD,(but did not do "The Desolation", because it did not fulfill all the prophecies).
All of the prophecies concerning the event must be fulfilled or it did not happen.


1) In 70 Ad, a general and his troops desolated the temple, but he did not meet the requirements of being the AC.

2)He did not sign a 7 yr treaty,(or covenant) and wait roughly 3.5 yrs to break it.

3) He had no false prophet with him.

4)He did not declare himself as Messiah,(christ).

5)The false prophet did not erect a statue of him, in the holy place and require it be worshiped(the true abomination of desolation).
The Abomination; is the erection and worship of a statue in place of the One, True, God, not just an action of defilement).

6)There were not 2 witnesses, there to contradict him for and 1,260 days until their death.
No celebration by the world of their deaths, etc

7) During this time the Signs in the Heavens must also occur: The sun and the stars must not give off their light and the moon will turn Red in color. Meteors or something will rain down on the Earth. Luke 21:25,26, Mat 24:29,30 Rev 6:12-14

Lots more unfulfilled stuff, but you should have gotten the point.

Now if all this occurred back then, there would be records of it, but it did not, thus it was not the Abomination of Desolation.





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