Why officers shoot until the threat has stopped. A few minutes of video you won't forget.

I love these videos! 5*

Most people don't understand that an animal jacked up on drugs and adrenaline, even though they are clinically dead, will continue to be lethal for a long time. Like when you cut off the head of a chicken it runs around for 20 or 30 seconds.

Interesting video.



When the mental person was walking, having been told repeatedly to drop the knife and didn't, why didn't the officer stop, aim and take out his ankles?


Seems like the idiot was not going to stop, and the situation was allowed to escalate. Then, the officer was trying to defend himself while running away backwards.


The cop was beyond reasonable, but actually put himself in danger by not incapacitating the idiot when he had a chance to do it earlier.

Suicide by cop

Holy Fuck!
What was that guy on?
Took 3-5 to the body and gets up. That one to the head was the only thing that stopped him.

Cops are regularly jacked up on steroids,meth and adrenaline,murder folks on a regular bases.
Maybe it's time to start killing cops that come near us while armed.

That’s intense!!!

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to our brothers in blue

Generally the controversy is that the cop is too aggressive.


In this case, the cop endangers himself by being too reasonable.


Either way, you fail.

Oh my gosh. My heart is going berserk. Ugh

I’m glad the officer is okay.

A long time ago, shooting to injure was approved as policy. Then as people died when shot as a result of those shootings it was ruled that any shot is a deadly force attempt.
So then the determination became that the officer had to have justifiable and reasonable reason to use deadly force.

In the early 70s a single man was shot 36 times by two cops. One cop was killed by, beat to death by the suspect. The other cop was seriously injured. Later, the coroner ruled that the suspect was dead after the first shot (through the heart). He just did not know it till bullet 36.
My point is that bullets are not rayguns. People will die if shot if they bleed out, but they can still be a threat until then.

Fuck the police.they are onesided.there is no law and I've proved it repeatedly.

Angel dust was every cops nightmare back in the 70s and 80s.

That vid’s been around a while... those cops should’ve fired WAY sooner.

The one who was attacked is lucky he wasn’t killed.

Which is why I suggested shooting out the ankles.

Regardless of the amount of chemicals in ones system, I can't imagine a perp continuing to be a threat with ankles shot out.

If they were, then head or chest shot.

Is that what you said at your trial?

The Officer let the danger area grow too much, as he backed up into the next county. More innocent people could have come into the area, and been attacked by the knife-wielder. Suicide by cop is very common with people who want to die but are afraid to kill themselves.

Respectfully, this is one of the silliest things I've read all day.

To begin with, do you have any idea of how hard it is, with training, to make a CBM (Center of Body Mass) shot under this kind of stress and duress? Never mind trying to pick off a target as narrow as an ankle, and moving at ANY sort of speed, never mind this irregular lurch?

Sorry man, just not even viable. You may as well just start taking random potshots hoping to clip something - which is when the outrage and angst begins. Which is the REASON that any shot taken should be intended to be a lethal shot, and have the justification to be.

I'm not a fan of that myself, by any means, but it's the only SENSIBLE operating procedure.

It always takes a head shot to stop a zombie.

Totally looked like a scene from "The Walking Dead," didn't it?

Brrrr.

wow, that was some fucked up shit.

how much more patient can you be with a lunatic carrying a knife?

some kind of drugs. pcp (angle dust)? is that even still a thing?

Keep shooting, I am still typing.

Because that does not work.
The chances are to great for a miss. who knows where the misses might go to and it is liable to escalate the situation greatly and motivate the suspect into further action.

Although the second officer should never have left his fellow officer get that far away from himself and should have deployed less than lethal options from the other side.

Knives are extremely fucking dangerous.

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That is why I suggested the officer stop and take aim when the perp was a reasonable distance from him.


For an officer with the proper personality type, this kind of an event is the thin g that makes them focus, and shoot with utmost precision.

You simply cant stand your ground when you are running backwards, nor can you shoot precisely.

Initially the idiot was merely shuffling, a foot shot would have been doable and effective.

Unless, of course, the officer panics and retreats. Cae in point.

Can't hit an ankle from 40 feet away while standing and gripping with both hands? Silly. Cops should know their weapons and be able to use them effectively.

This is simply silly - again, respectfully, you obviously aren't very familiar with firearms.

From 40 feet away, with a well-tuned handgun, a reasonable grouping at body center is relatively easy. Tell me, when is the last time that YOU tried to hit a moving target less than 5 inches wide from 40 feet away with a 9MM pistol? I'm guessing never. Not even NEARLY easy, in a NON-STRESSFUL situation, and not shooting at a LIVE target.

Then you have to take in the other extenuating factors... public space, residential, traffic and bystanders. Any stray bullet is a danger to the public, as is any rebound... such as the type that you would expect when aiming at ankles. The resulting angle of shot almost GUARANTEES a ricochet in a public space, which is a FAR worse result that could end up injuring innocent people.

What you're saying is frankly unreasonable, not realistic, and while I think the officer waited far too long to respond with force, and the partner should have DEFINITELY deployed non-lethals while the attacker was being distracted, there was nothing wrong with the officer's actions when finally taken. ANY officer who would try to John Wayne the situation and attempt silly shots should lose his or her badge and be put on a desk.

A foot shot would be far safer, because it would be more likely to embed in the asphalt if it misses.

In the earlier part of the video, a center of mass shot miss would have gone over the crest of the hill, endangering others.

Additionally, with proper training, had both officers fired at his ankles there would certainly be a hit.

As a matter of fact, if I had a choice and was a cop I would choose a shotgun.

They carry them, so why not grab that and make short work of the perp if you are so confident you will miss with a pistol?

Ok, now you're just being foolish... arguing a point that even YOU can see makes no sense. You keep talking about this "proper training..." by all means, enlighten others here as to the extent of YOUR firearms training, with particular focus on safety and effective handling in stressful, immediate situations.

You take the shot least likely to endanger others, and that you're less likely to miss. And again, shotgun, while having more stopping power, is again LESS accurate, and with a standard load being shot, not slugs, the opportunity for scatter is too high.

Seriously, you obviously don't know jack about firearms, OR safety, OR mitigation of collateral damage. You're talking like someone that's learned everything they know about cops and robbers from "Letha Weapon." That's not reality... that's how innocent people get killed, and then people like YOU blame the COPS for excessive force and not enough precautions being taken.

I'm done with this one. Cop did the right thing. ANY cop that starts taking ankle shots is just as likely to try to shoot a gun out of a perp's hand or some other cowboy bullshit, and is a danger to their partner, their profession, themselves and the public. Period.

Enjoy your rich fantasy life and have an awesome weekend!