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Why officers shoot until the threat has stopped. A few minutes of video you won't forget. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77134005  United States10/19/2019 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77134005 Can't hit an ankle from 40 feet away while standing and gripping with both hands? Silly. Cops should know their weapons and be able to use them effectively. This is simply silly - again, respectfully, you obviously aren't very familiar with firearms. From 40 feet away, with a well-tuned handgun, a reasonable grouping at body center is relatively easy. Tell me, when is the last time that YOU tried to hit a moving target less than 5 inches wide from 40 feet away with a 9MM pistol? I'm guessing never. Not even NEARLY easy, in a NON-STRESSFUL situation, and not shooting at a LIVE target. Then you have to take in the other extenuating factors... public space, residential, traffic and bystanders. Any stray bullet is a danger to the public, as is any rebound... such as the type that you would expect when aiming at ankles. The resulting angle of shot almost GUARANTEES a ricochet in a public space, which is a FAR worse result that could end up injuring innocent people. What you're saying is frankly unreasonable, not realistic, and while I think the officer waited far too long to respond with force, and the partner should have DEFINITELY deployed non-lethals while the attacker was being distracted, there was nothing wrong with the officer's actions when finally taken. ANY officer who would try to John Wayne the situation and attempt silly shots should lose his or her badge and be put on a desk.  A foot shot would be far safer, because it would be more likely to embed in the asphalt if it misses. In the earlier part of the video, a center of mass shot miss would have gone over the crest of the hill, endangering others. Additionally, with proper training, had both officers fired at his ankles there would certainly be a hit. As a matter of fact, if I had a choice and was a cop I would choose a shotgun. They carry them, so why not grab that and make short work of the perp if you are so confident you will miss with a pistol? Ok, now you're just being foolish... arguing a point that even YOU can see makes no sense. You keep talking about this "proper training..." by all means, enlighten others here as to the extent of YOUR firearms training, with particular focus on safety and effective handling in stressful, immediate situations. You take the shot least likely to endanger others, and that you're less likely to miss. And again, shotgun, while having more stopping power, is again LESS accurate, and with a standard load being shot, not slugs, the opportunity for scatter is too high. Seriously, you obviously don't know jack about firearms, OR safety, OR mitigation of collateral damage. You're talking like someone that's learned everything they know about cops and robbers from "Letha Weapon." That's not reality... that's how innocent people get killed, and then people like YOU blame the COPS for excessive force and not enough precautions being taken. I'm done with this one. Cop did the right thing. ANY cop that starts taking ankle shots is just as likely to try to shoot a gun out of a perp's hand or some other cowboy bullshit, and is a danger to their partner, their profession, themselves and the public. Period. Enjoy your rich fantasy life and have an awesome weekend!  The perp did not have a gun, the perp had a knife. My firearms training is typical of an American who grew up before the lunatics took over. We took our rifles to school, giving the bolt to the bus driver for safety, then shot them at the range under supervision. I don't have a lot of experience with pistols, but I've shot them enough to know that if I trained regularly I could hit an ankle at 12 or 13 yards. When a cop is facing a perp with a knife at a distance, the cop should be calm. Maybe they do need to cut down on the adderal (crystal meth) a bit huh? Maybe they need a laser on their 9mm, after all, some people can shoot a pistol, some can't. If you know how to shoot, you know how to put the bullet where you want, if you don't know how to shoot, you squint through the sights and hope it goes where you want. It's almost as if they are already hyped up before they even get to the scene, like Scrump said, those cops waited way too long to shoot. They were in retreat, and it's a miracle no one was hit by bullets flying wildly away as the cop freaked out by letting the perp charge him. |
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 User ID: 73274634  Canada10/19/2019 03:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the site edhubbard Police did everything they could, trying not to shoot the guy, would like to know what had happened to this guy to drive him to suicide like this. Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may. INTP - The Logician. 'Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.' - Albert Einstein. |
