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So, I grew up with someone a researcher thought was Munchhausen by Proxy due to their behavior.
I just think they're an exploitative psychopath.

But, either way, their lying and bizarre maneuvering has led to some "What the fuck was that really?" moments.

Help me make sense of this one?

A little about them:

So, they were a DoD contractor/whatever-other-agency-was-hiring scientist. I never saw them do much in the sciences other than supervise. Most of what I saw them doing was recruiting participants for research projects and new workers for the organization that was writing their paychecks.

They talked about how they spent their early days giving cancer to lab rats. That was their job.

But here's where my question comes in:

When I was little, she would do things like show me a watch with a radium dial, and sell me on sleeping with it under my pillow because "it might cause a brain tumor" which she sold as an exciting and edgy thing.

She brought me in for radiation therapy when I was around 5 years old (didn't tell me what it was, and the asshat doctors told me it was to "make me smarter," but the machinery used was the top of the line radiation therapy equipment of the time, so that part of the question is already solved).

The radiation therapy was focused on my head.

When the doctors said I didn't need radiation therapy anymore, she threw THE BIGGEST fit of all time and started screaming at them for hours.

She never told me I had cancer.

I did often feel sick around her. I rarely feel sick when far the hell away from her. If she was actually a clear case of Munchhausen by Proxy, she may have simply been poisoning me. Although, there's also a possibility that - since she didn't feel the need to explain the cancer treatment to me - that she was slipping me chemo or other cancer medication regularly when I was living with her.

Roughly around the same time as the radiation therapy, she brought me to a doctor in Boston who did some sort of surgery on one of my eyes. I lost vision in it after that and have never fully regained it. Later, a doctor would suggest I needed therapy for the damaged eye to improve the sight - she turned them down. I'm now paying out of pocket to do it in my adult life.

Fast forward through a few years of feeling like death, and she signed me into a chemotherapy trial in Farmington, Connecticut.

She had been altering medical documents to match whatever condition was in vogue, and had been signing me into a lot of paid research trials and pocketing the cash during that time. She had connections inside of the medical research building over at Yale and seemed to have inside knowledge as to what the best paying studies were looking for in participants.

...this is, by the way, how I decided she was an exploitative psychopath and how a researcher decided that she was Munchhausen by Proxy. She had signed me into the best paying study at Yale at the time, for a condition I did not have (epilepsy), and one of the researchers realized I didn't have the condition. But back to the subject at hand..

I'm sitting in Farmington, Connecticut receiving chemotherapy. No one has told me I have cancer at this point, ever. Did I have cancer? That's my question. I'm wondering if I had cancer to begin with.

I did develop cancer after the chemotherapy, most likely as a direct result. I had a gnarly mass growing in my abdomen (remember, the original one they were treating was in my skull or eye). It was bad enough that it caused me physical discomfort and stomach aches of an odd variety. No one looked at it, nothing was done about it (but you'll hear more about it later in this).

Fast forward a couple more years, I'm still a kid. A local hospital finally got radiation therapy equipment (a particle accelerator). It was going to take a year for them to meet all of the safety requirements, calibrations, and testing before it could be used on the public.

She wasn't waiting for that. She used her connections at the hospital and snuck me into the room and had me under the untested machine within 2 minutes of entering. So, I guess we can add that to my radiation therapy list.

Now, remember the actual tumor in my abdomen that was growing by then? I was walking down the street near the research hospital when an orderly literally ran out to me, on the street, and told me I had cancer in my abdomen. I thought he was insane. I had known him in social settings for years, but in that moment I decided he had me confused with someone else. Why would he have to tell me outside of the hospital? Wouldn't they have told me in it? These were the things I was thinking.

Fast forward to when I was in my early 20s and the cancer in my abdomen was confirmed by another doctor several states away where I had fled to. It was slow growing, but it was coming close to taking me down by that point. They removed it. I lost a couple years of my life to that process.

So, that's where my story tapers off with her and cancer, but the question remains, because no one ever told me. Did I actually have the childhood cancer that first radiation treatment and chemotherapy were for?

If it were "for my benefit" one would assume that someone would have told me, at least when I was an adult, so I could continue to be screened for it when I went for physical exams.

As for if I'm her only victim - no. The woman qualifies as a cancer cluster. Family members, people she doesn't like, and most children living with her develop cancer.

And no, she isn't living in a cancer cluster area where half the town has an increased risk due to some environmental factor. This isn't a community issue. She is the cancer cluster.

So, again, the question that has plagued me. Did I have cancer before all of the treatment?

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So, I grew up with someone a researcher thought was Munchhausen by Proxy due to their behavior.
I just think they're an exploitative psychopath.

But, either way, their lying and bizarre maneuvering has led to some "What the fuck was that really?" moments.

Help me make sense of this one?

A little about them:

So, they were a DoD contractor/whatever-other-agency-was-hiring scientist. I never saw them do much in the sciences other than supervise. Most of what I saw them doing was recruiting participants for research projects and new workers for the organization that was writing their paychecks.

They talked about how they spent their early days giving cancer to lab rats. That was their job.

But here's where my question comes in:

When I was little, she would do things like show me a watch with a radium dial, and sell me on sleeping with it under my pillow because "it might cause a brain tumor" which she sold as an exciting and edgy thing.

She brought me in for radiation therapy when I was around 5 years old (didn't tell me what it was, and the asshat doctors told me it was to "make me smarter," but the machinery used was the top of the line radiation therapy equipment of the time, so that part of the question is already solved).

The radiation therapy was focused on my head.

When the doctors said I didn't need radiation therapy anymore, she threw THE BIGGEST fit of all time and started screaming at them for hours.

She never told me I had cancer.

I did often feel sick around her. I rarely feel sick when far the hell away from her. If she was actually a clear case of Munchhausen by Proxy, she may have simply been poisoning me. Although, there's also a possibility that - since she didn't feel the need to explain the cancer treatment to me - that she was slipping me chemo or other cancer medication regularly when I was living with her.

Roughly around the same time as the radiation therapy, she brought me to a doctor in Boston who did some sort of surgery on one of my eyes. I lost vision in it after that and have never fully regained it. Later, a doctor would suggest I needed therapy on the damaged eye to improve the sight - she turned them down. I'm now paying out of pocket to do it in my adult life.

Fast forward through a few years of feeling like death, and she signed me into a chemotherapy trial in Farmington, Connecticut.

She had been altering medical documents to match whatever condition was in vogue, and had been signing me into a lot of paid research trials and pocketing the cash during that time. She had connections inside of the medical research building over at Yale and seemed to have inside knowledge as to what the best paying studies were looking for in participants.

...this is, by the way, how I decided she was an exploitative psychopath and how a researcher decided that she was Munchhausen by Proxy. She had signed me into the best paying study at Yale at the time, for a condition I did not have (epilepsy), and one of the researchers realized I didn't have the condition. But back to the subject at hand..

I'm sitting in Farmington, Connecticut receiving chemotherapy. No one has told me I have cancer at this point, ever. Did I have cancer? That's my question. I'm wondering if I had cancer to begin with.

I did develop cancer after the chemotherapy, most likely as a direct result. I had a gnarly mass growing in my abdomen (remember, the original one they were treating was in my skull or eye). It was bad enough that it caused me physical discomfort and stomach aches of an odd variety. No one looked at it, nothing was done about it (but you'll hear more about it later in this).

Fast forward a couple more years, I'm still a kid. A local hospital finally got radiation therapy equipment (a particle accelerator). It was going to take a year for them to meet all of the safety requirements, calibrations, and testing before it could be used on the public.

She wasn't waiting for that. She used her connections at the hospital and snuck me into the room and had me under the untested machine within 2 minutes of entering. So, I guess we can add that to my radiation therapy list.

Now, remember the actual tumor in my abdomen that was growing by then? I was walking down the street near the research hospital when an orderly literally ran out to me, on the street, and told me I had cancer in my abdomen. I thought he was insane. I had known him in social settings for years, but in that moment I decided he had me confused with someone else. Why would he have to tell me outside of the hospital? Wouldn't they have told me in it? These were the things I was thinking.

Fast forward to when I was in my early 20s and the cancer in my abdomen was confirmed by another doctor several states away where I had fled to. It was slow growing, but it was coming close to taking me down by that point. They removed it. I lost a couple years of my life to that process.

So, that's where my story tapers off with her and cancer, but the question remains, because no one ever told me. Did I actually have the childhood cancer that first radiation treatment and chemotherapy were for?

If it were "for my benefit" one would assume that someone would have told me, at least when I was an adult, so I could continue to be screened for it when I went for physical exams.

As for if I'm her only victim - no. The woman qualifies as a cancer cluster. Family members, people she doesn't like, and most children living with her develop cancer.

And no, she isn't living in a cancer cluster area where half the town has an increased risk due to some environmental factor. This isn't a community issue. She is the cancer cluster.

So, again, the question that has plagued me. Did I have cancer before all of the treatment?
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Joe and Amber, this one is pretty good, five stars.
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I'm not a doctor and have no idea if you had cancer as a child.

But most of the long term Glpers have had a direct relationship with a very real conspiracy in their personal lives.

If you didn't have a conspiracy in your life you probably wouldn't be here because you'd be... "Normal"

Have you thought about going through your medical record from that time to determine what happened?
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I'm not a doctor and have no idea if you had cancer as a child.

But most of the long term Glpers have had a direct relationship with a very real conspiracy in their personal lives.

If you didn't have a conspiracy in your life you probably wouldn't be here because you'd be... "Normal"

Have you thought about going through your medical record from that time to determine what happened?
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The only thing of note in my pediatrician's file is "suspected child abuse." No mention of the cancer treatment or cancer - at all.

Which is why I assume it was mostly paid research, because none of the paid research trials made it into my pediatrician's medical file, probably because most of it was bullshit fake conditions created to get me into the trials and get her the cash.

However, all of her screaming after the first radiation therapy doesn't sound like it was a trial? Or maybe it was. Screaming doesn't exactly make it not a trial.

Understanding psychopaths gives me a headache.

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bump Because this thing keeps sliding off the page and I refuse to pin something that is 100% about me.
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bump Because this thing keeps sliding off the page and I refuse to pin something that is 100% about me.
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I'm not a doctor and have no idea if you had cancer as a child.

But most of the long term Glpers have had a direct relationship with a very real conspiracy in their personal lives.

If you didn't have a conspiracy in your life you probably wouldn't be here because you'd be... "Normal"

Have you thought about going through your medical record from that time to determine what happened?
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


The only thing in my pediatrician's file is "suspected child abuse." No mention of the cancer treatment or cancer - at all. Which is why I assume it was mostly paid research, because none of the paid research trials made it into my pediatrician's medical file. However, all of her screaming after the first radiation therapy doesn't sound like it was a trial? Or maybe it was. Screaming doesn't exactly make it not a trial.
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Ok, but another factor is that unethical people can plant memories into the heads of others by using suggestion.

I'll explain.

It's easy, I ask you if you remember meeting me by the ocean in a quaint seaside town in Italy I know you've been to and ask you if you remember someone resembling me? By describing myself it paints a mental image where you can picture me and it triggers memories of the town.

Using mental images and the pliability of the human memory to plant false memories by recreating memories which don't exist.

I could describe myself as a tall, blonde man with a dishevelled beard and then stalk you into finding out the name of the seaside town in Italy.

This creates a seemingly familiar base with which to converse with you over what I claim are shared memories.

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The fact is when you remember things you're not remembering them as they solely happened, but can add and subtract to memories.

For instance the false memory of me seeing you in Italy. When you remember things you're rewriting your memory with the time when you remembered what you remember.

Because memories are pliable I suggesting looking into your medical records because it's written proof of what happened.

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That's not to say your memories are false but rather you should talk to people from your past to ascertain what they remember or have proof of.

Talking to the person who ran the chemotherapy on you from Yale could yield results random strangers on the internet can't or shouldn't speculate on. You could call Yale and ask them about that person running the medical center at Yale at the time you remember.

I wish you the best of luck.
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I'm not a doctor and have no idea if you had cancer as a child.

But most of the long term Glpers have had a direct relationship with a very real conspiracy in their personal lives.

If you didn't have a conspiracy in your life you probably wouldn't be here because you'd be... "Normal"

Have you thought about going through your medical record from that time to determine what happened?
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


The only thing in my pediatrician's file is "suspected child abuse." No mention of the cancer treatment or cancer - at all. Which is why I assume it was mostly paid research, because none of the paid research trials made it into my pediatrician's medical file. However, all of her screaming after the first radiation therapy doesn't sound like it was a trial? Or maybe it was. Screaming doesn't exactly make it not a trial.
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Ok, but another factor is that unethical people can plant memories into the heads of others by using suggestion.

I'll explain.

It's easy, I ask you if you remember meeting me by the ocean in a quaint seaside town in Italy I know you've been to and ask you if you remember someone resembling me? By describing myself it paints a mental image where you can picture me and it triggers memories of the town.

Using mental images and the pliability of the human memory to plant false memories by recreating memories which don't exist.

I could describe myself as a tall, blonde man with a dishevelled beard and then stalk you into finding out the name of the seaside town in Italy.

This creates a seemingly familiar base with which to converse with you over what I claim are shared memories.

-------

The fact is when you remember things you're not remembering them as they solely happened, but can add and subtract to memories.

For instance the false memory of me seeing you in Italy. When you remember things you're rewriting your memory with the time when you remembered what you remember.

Because memories are pliable I suggesting looking into your medical records because it's written proof of what happened.

 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Yeah. I think I'm going to skip on the "You're remembering it wrong. That was an ice cream parlor, not a doctor's office" bit.

I have witnesses - mentioned already in the story.

I also have documents of the state looking into one of the faked conditions as child abuse while it was still going on (and no, I wasn't the one who reported it to them).

I'm just trying to figure out if I had cancer to begin with.

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I'm not a doctor and have no idea if you had cancer as a child.

But most of the long term Glpers have had a direct relationship with a very real conspiracy in their personal lives.

If you didn't have a conspiracy in your life you probably wouldn't be here because you'd be... "Normal"

Have you thought about going through your medical record from that time to determine what happened?
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


The only thing of note in my pediatrician's file is "suspected child abuse." No mention of the cancer treatment or cancer - at all.

Which is why I assume it was mostly paid research, because none of the paid research trials made it into my pediatrician's medical file, probably because most of it was bullshit fake conditions created to get me into the trials and get her the cash.

However, all of her screaming after the first radiation therapy doesn't sound like it was a trial? Or maybe it was. Screaming doesn't exactly make it not a trial.

Understanding psychopaths gives me a headache.

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Understanding psychopaths is useful for a Machiavellian Narcissistic Psychopath, because it shows you things about yourself you wouldn't otherwise contemplate. :D
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I'm not a doctor and have no idea if you had cancer as a child.

But most of the long term Glpers have had a direct relationship with a very real conspiracy in their personal lives.

If you didn't have a conspiracy in your life you probably wouldn't be here because you'd be... "Normal"

Have you thought about going through your medical record from that time to determine what happened?
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


The only thing in my pediatrician's file is "suspected child abuse." No mention of the cancer treatment or cancer - at all. Which is why I assume it was mostly paid research, because none of the paid research trials made it into my pediatrician's medical file. However, all of her screaming after the first radiation therapy doesn't sound like it was a trial? Or maybe it was. Screaming doesn't exactly make it not a trial.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Ok, but another factor is that unethical people can plant memories into the heads of others by using suggestion.

I'll explain.

It's easy, I ask you if you remember meeting me by the ocean in a quaint seaside town in Italy I know you've been to and ask you if you remember someone resembling me? By describing myself it paints a mental image where you can picture me and it triggers memories of the town.

Using mental images and the pliability of the human memory to plant false memories by recreating memories which don't exist.

I could describe myself as a tall, blonde man with a dishevelled beard and then stalk you into finding out the name of the seaside town in Italy.

This creates a seemingly familiar base with which to converse with you over what I claim are shared memories.

-------

The fact is when you remember things you're not remembering them as they solely happened, but can add and subtract to memories.

For instance the false memory of me seeing you in Italy. When you remember things you're rewriting your memory with the time when you remembered what you remember.

Because memories are pliable I suggesting looking into your medical records because it's written proof of what happened.

 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Yeah. I think I'm going to skip on the "You're remembering it wrong. That was an ice cream parlor, not a doctor's office" bit.

I have witnesses - mentioned already in the story.

I also have documents of the state looking into one of the faked conditions as child abuse.

I'm just trying to figure out if I had cancer to begin with.
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Ok then. Do you have corroborating evidence from photos of you in a hospital gown, or relatives talking about your childhood cancer?

Can you ask someone from your childhood about it?
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Whilst it is not possible to say yes or no, I would lean towards no you didn't have cancer and most certainly the chemo gave you the cancer in your abdomen.

You have led an intriguing if not distressing life, but I enjoy reading your stories.

hf

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Ok then. Do you have corroborating evidence from photos of you in a hospital gown, or relatives talking about your childhood cancer?

Can you ask someone from your childhood about it?
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I was kept hidden from her family. Of 80 or so relatives, four knew I existed. The rest, I was told had all died in the same year (they hadn't, most lived several more decades according to their actual obituaries). I don't know what she told them about me, but I had to hide when one visited.

And, no, I'm not going to ask the psychopath. Every time I do, the lies get more outlandish.

No one told me I had cancer. I did, however, go through cancer treatment.

The orderly who approached me in the street, as I mentioned, said it was cancer. That was the first time I heard of it. I was already in my teens by then.

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Whilst it is not possible to say yes or no, I would lean towards no you didn't have cancer and most certainly the chemo gave you the cancer in your abdomen.

You have led an intriguing if not distressing life, but I enjoy reading your stories.

hf
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Yeah. I have no doubt the chemo caused the abdomen one.

I just seriously wonder if I had maybe retinoblastoma (yes, I googled while trying to figure it out, ha) or similar in one eye and that's what set off this whole thing.

And it does worry the shit out of me. I want to be able to tell my current doctors what I had so they can watch for it.

hf

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Ok then. Do you have corroborating evidence from photos of you in a hospital gown, or relatives talking about your childhood cancer?

Can you ask someone from your childhood about it?
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I was kept hidden from her family. Of 80 or so relatives, four knew I existed. The rest, I was told had all died in the same year (they hadn't, most lived several more decades according to their actual obituaries). I don't know what she told them about me, but I had to hide when one visited.

And, no, I'm not going to ask the psychopath. Every time I do, the lies get more outlandish.

No one told me I had cancer. I did, however, go through cancer treatment.

The orderly who approached me in the street, as I mentioned, said it was cancer. That was the first time I heard of it. I was already in my teens by then.
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That's unfortunate. Were you in significant pain during your childhood? Because the malignant cells eating each other and the associated pain with that would be telling.
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Ok then. Do you have corroborating evidence from photos of you in a hospital gown, or relatives talking about your childhood cancer?

Can you ask someone from your childhood about it?
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I was kept hidden from her family. Of 80 or so relatives, four knew I existed. The rest, I was told had all died in the same year (they hadn't, most lived several more decades according to their actual obituaries). I don't know what she told them about me, but I had to hide when one visited.

And, no, I'm not going to ask the psychopath. Every time I do, the lies get more outlandish.

No one told me I had cancer. I did, however, go through cancer treatment.

The orderly who approached me in the street, as I mentioned, said it was cancer. That was the first time I heard of it. I was already in my teens by then.
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That's unfortunate. Were you in significant pain during your childhood? Because the malignant cells eating each other and the associated pain with that would be telling.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


I was just tired and always felt sick for the most part when living with her. Dizziness was common, especially when standing - I'd nearly blackout. I was more physically sensitive, but that's a part of feeling like shit.

Most of the symptoms dissipate when the hell away from her, which would seem to indicate they were being caused by a medication or god knows what else. I'm fairly healthy away from all that.

There was pain with the mass I developed after the chemotherapy (third treatment set on the list). That went away when I was an adult and sought proper cancer treatment.

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Ok then. Do you have corroborating evidence from photos of you in a hospital gown, or relatives talking about your childhood cancer?

Can you ask someone from your childhood about it?
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I was kept hidden from her family. Of 80 or so relatives, four knew I existed. The rest, I was told had all died in the same year (they hadn't, most lived several more decades according to their actual obituaries). I don't know what she told them about me, but I had to hide when one visited.

And, no, I'm not going to ask the psychopath. Every time I do, the lies get more outlandish.

No one told me I had cancer. I did, however, go through cancer treatment.

The orderly who approached me in the street, as I mentioned, said it was cancer. That was the first time I heard of it. I was already in my teens by then.
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That's unfortunate. Were you in significant pain during your childhood? Because the malignant cells eating each other and the associated pain with that would be telling.
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I was just tired and always felt sick for the most part when living with her. Dizziness was common, especially when standing - I'd nearly blackout. I was more physically sensitive, but that's a part of feeling like shit.

Most of the symptoms dissipate when the hell away from her, which would seem to indicate they were being caused by a medication or god knows what else. I'm fairly healthy away from all that.

There was pain with the mass I developed after the chemotherapy (third treatment set on the list). that went away when I was an adult and sought proper cancer treatment.

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I think you have your answer. I think you were probably poisoned and that's why your medical record shows child abuse and not cancer.
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Whilst it is not possible to say yes or no, I would lean towards no you didn't have cancer and most certainly the chemo gave you the cancer in your abdomen.

You have led an intriguing if not distressing life, but I enjoy reading your stories.

hf
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Yeah. I have no doubt the chemo caused the abdomen one.

I just seriously wonder if I had maybe retinoblastoma (yes, I googled while trying to figure it out, ha) or similar in one eye and that's what set off this whole thing.

And it does worry the shit out of me. I want to be able to tell my current doctors what I had so they can watch for it.

hf
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I believe I was tested for that myself as a child, my parents were freaked out when one of my eyes was glowing white in a photo they had taken. Thankfully nothing was wrong, I think it is a very rare cancer to get. Although it is normally found in children...
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I was kept hidden from her family. Of 80 or so relatives, four knew I existed. The rest, I was told had all died in the same year (they hadn't, most lived several more decades according to their actual obituaries). I don't know what she told them about me, but I had to hide when one visited.

And, no, I'm not going to ask the psychopath. Every time I do, the lies get more outlandish.

No one told me I had cancer. I did, however, go through cancer treatment.

The orderly who approached me in the street, as I mentioned, said it was cancer. That was the first time I heard of it. I was already in my teens by then.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


That's unfortunate. Were you in significant pain during your childhood? Because the malignant cells eating each other and the associated pain with that would be telling.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


I was just tired and always felt sick for the most part when living with her. Dizziness was common, especially when standing - I'd nearly blackout. I was more physically sensitive, but that's a part of feeling like shit.

Most of the symptoms dissipate when the hell away from her, which would seem to indicate they were being caused by a medication or god knows what else. I'm fairly healthy away from all that.

There was pain with the mass I developed after the chemotherapy (third treatment set on the list). that went away when I was an adult and sought proper cancer treatment.

 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I think you have your answer. I think you were probably poisoned and that's why your medical record shows child abuse and not cancer.
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Yeah, I know I was going through something with her.

I just wonder about the first cancer, when the doctors were doing radiation on my head.

How do you fake a brain/eye cancer?

And she does know how to induce cancer. She did it in lab animals professionally, and there's a high probability she's done it to a few people, just seeing how many in her circle develop it.

I can see how she faked the cancer in me for chemo later on. I'm pretty sure she passed it off as leukemia and just faked some blood lab results.

And the later radiation therapy she literally snuck me into the room for, so no lab-work fabrication was needed.

But, how do you fake a brain or eye cancer...
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Whilst it is not possible to say yes or no, I would lean towards no you didn't have cancer and most certainly the chemo gave you the cancer in your abdomen.

You have led an intriguing if not distressing life, but I enjoy reading your stories.

hf
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Yeah. I have no doubt the chemo caused the abdomen one.

I just seriously wonder if I had maybe retinoblastoma (yes, I googled while trying to figure it out, ha) or similar in one eye and that's what set off this whole thing.

And it does worry the shit out of me. I want to be able to tell my current doctors what I had so they can watch for it.

hf
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I believe I was tested for that myself as a child, my parents were freaked out when one of my eyes was glowing white in a photo they had taken. Thankfully nothing was wrong, I think it is a very rare cancer to get. Although it is normally found in children...
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Yeah. Most of my early pictures show white or red in one of my eyes. I wish I still had the pictures so I could confirm which. It's also a cancer with a very high survival rate. I have to wonder. It's the one that kept coming up in my research.

She's a psychopath, she uses things like that to convince people she's a saint. And I was an illegal adoption, so I have to wonder if the people handing me over thought they were handing me over to a cancer-curing saint.

My eyeball that had the surgery's a slight mess. It's not even round. There's a discernible bulge in it (eye doctor confirmed). I'd just really like to know what the living fuck was going on in those years.

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That's unfortunate. Were you in significant pain during your childhood? Because the malignant cells eating each other and the associated pain with that would be telling.
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I was just tired and always felt sick for the most part when living with her. Dizziness was common, especially when standing - I'd nearly blackout. I was more physically sensitive, but that's a part of feeling like shit.

Most of the symptoms dissipate when the hell away from her, which would seem to indicate they were being caused by a medication or god knows what else. I'm fairly healthy away from all that.

There was pain with the mass I developed after the chemotherapy (third treatment set on the list). that went away when I was an adult and sought proper cancer treatment.

 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I think you have your answer. I think you were probably poisoned and that's why your medical record shows child abuse and not cancer.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Yeah, I know I was going through something with her.

I just wonder about the first cancer, when the doctors were doing radiation on my head.

How do you fake a brain/eye cancer?

And she does know how to induce cancer. She did it in lab animals professionally, and there's a high probability she's done it to a few people, just seeing how many in her circle develop it.

I can see how she faked the cancer in me for chemo later on. I'm pretty sure she passed it off as leukemia and just faked some blood lab results.

And the later radiation therapy she literally snuck me into the room for, so no lab-work fabrication was needed.

But, how do you fake a brain or eye cancer...
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You mentioned that she induced cancer in lab animals and suspect she did it to you. What if she simply told the radiotherapist that you had cancer to test radiation as a cancer inducer?

What I mean is the radiotherapist didn't question her because he was helping her with her experiment and you were just an advanced lab animal she could get non lethal reports on the progress of her "cancer" inducements...
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I was just tired and always felt sick for the most part when living with her. Dizziness was common, especially when standing - I'd nearly blackout. I was more physically sensitive, but that's a part of feeling like shit.

Most of the symptoms dissipate when the hell away from her, which would seem to indicate they were being caused by a medication or god knows what else. I'm fairly healthy away from all that.

There was pain with the mass I developed after the chemotherapy (third treatment set on the list). that went away when I was an adult and sought proper cancer treatment.

 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I think you have your answer. I think you were probably poisoned and that's why your medical record shows child abuse and not cancer.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Yeah, I know I was going through something with her.

I just wonder about the first cancer, when the doctors were doing radiation on my head.

How do you fake a brain/eye cancer?

And she does know how to induce cancer. She did it in lab animals professionally, and there's a high probability she's done it to a few people, just seeing how many in her circle develop it.

I can see how she faked the cancer in me for chemo later on. I'm pretty sure she passed it off as leukemia and just faked some blood lab results.

And the later radiation therapy she literally snuck me into the room for, so no lab-work fabrication was needed.

But, how do you fake a brain or eye cancer...
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You mentioned that she induced cancer in lab animals and suspect she did it to you. What if she simply told the radiotherapist that you had cancer to test radiation as a cancer inducer?

What I mean is the radiotherapist didn't question her because he was helping her with her experiment and you were just an advanced lab animal she could get non lethal reports on the progress of her "cancer" inducements...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Anything's possible with that one.
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You did not have cancer; nothing suggests that your first "exposure" was medically appropriate in an absolute sense.

Altering documents, pocketing your 'lab rat' payments, etc. are pretty loathsome moves.

Using radiation on a healthy body can, given the dosage, etc. trigger unbridled cancer growths that would not necessarily develop in the site that was irradiated.

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I believe I was tested for that myself as a child, my parents were freaked out when one of my eyes was glowing white in a photo they had taken. Thankfully nothing was wrong, I think it is a very rare cancer to get. Although it is normally found in children...
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Yeah. Most of my early pictures show white or red in one of my eyes. I wish I still had the pictures so I could confirm which. It's also a cancer with a very high survival rate. I have to wonder. It's the one that kept coming up in my research.

She's a psychopath, she uses things like that to convince people she's a saint. And I was an illegal adoption, so I have to wonder if the people handing me over thought they were handing me over to a cancer-curing saint.

My eyeball that had the surgery's a slight mess. It's not even round. There's a discernible bulge in it (eye doctor confirmed). I'd just really like to know what the living fuck was going on in those years.
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I should note I have a total of one picture before the age of 4, from the adoption place, and it didn't have the weird eye. I was maybe 18 months in it.

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I believe I was tested for that myself as a child, my parents were freaked out when one of my eyes was glowing white in a photo they had taken. Thankfully nothing was wrong, I think it is a very rare cancer to get. Although it is normally found in children...
 Quoting: Truth Ranger


Yeah. Most of my early pictures show white or red in one of my eyes. I wish I still had the pictures so I could confirm which. It's also a cancer with a very high survival rate. I have to wonder. It's the one that kept coming up in my research.

She's a psychopath, she uses things like that to convince people she's a saint. And I was an illegal adoption, so I have to wonder if the people handing me over thought they were handing me over to a cancer-curing saint.

My eyeball that had the surgery's a slight mess. It's not even round. There's a discernible bulge in it (eye doctor confirmed). I'd just really like to know what the living fuck was going on in those years.
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I should note I have a total of one picture before the age of 4, from the adoption place, and it didn't have the weird eye.
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you were adopted? What happened to your real parents??
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I think you have your answer. I think you were probably poisoned and that's why your medical record shows child abuse and not cancer.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Yeah, I know I was going through something with her.

I just wonder about the first cancer, when the doctors were doing radiation on my head.

How do you fake a brain/eye cancer?

And she does know how to induce cancer. She did it in lab animals professionally, and there's a high probability she's done it to a few people, just seeing how many in her circle develop it.

I can see how she faked the cancer in me for chemo later on. I'm pretty sure she passed it off as leukemia and just faked some blood lab results.

And the later radiation therapy she literally snuck me into the room for, so no lab-work fabrication was needed.

But, how do you fake a brain or eye cancer...
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You mentioned that she induced cancer in lab animals and suspect she did it to you. What if she simply told the radiotherapist that you had cancer to test radiation as a cancer inducer?

What I mean is the radiotherapist didn't question her because he was helping her with her experiment and you were just an advanced lab animal she could get non lethal reports on the progress of her "cancer" inducements...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Anything's possible with that one.
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You have to admit human testing of things like cancer and HIV does have its merits.

The merit being long term survivability of people afflicted with these disorders.

I'm not saying what happened to you was good, but the psychopath in your life probably adopted you just because it was part of her research. :(
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I think you have your answer. I think you were probably poisoned and that's why your medical record shows child abuse and not cancer.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Yeah, I know I was going through something with her.

I just wonder about the first cancer, when the doctors were doing radiation on my head.

How do you fake a brain/eye cancer?

And she does know how to induce cancer. She did it in lab animals professionally, and there's a high probability she's done it to a few people, just seeing how many in her circle develop it.

I can see how she faked the cancer in me for chemo later on. I'm pretty sure she passed it off as leukemia and just faked some blood lab results.

And the later radiation therapy she literally snuck me into the room for, so no lab-work fabrication was needed.

But, how do you fake a brain or eye cancer...
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You mentioned that she induced cancer in lab animals and suspect she did it to you. What if she simply told the radiotherapist that you had cancer to test radiation as a cancer inducer?

What I mean is the radiotherapist didn't question her because he was helping her with her experiment and you were just an advanced lab animal she could get non lethal reports on the progress of her "cancer" inducements...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Anything's possible with that one.
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....

She did claim to be doing research in a similar kind of manner. I do wonder sometimes if I was just a free range lab rat. And I do know I was essentially born without rights (legally speaking, coming from a war zone). And I do know they were doing research on adult subjects who felt cornered into it.

But would anyone, besides a random psychopath doing side research, really be willing to do cancer-inducing research on a human child? I mean, would it have been accepted within the organization/medical field even for DoD research? It's possible, but I tend to lean towards all this crap being her at-home side project.
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random thought

could it be that you are using neuro linguistic programming on glp?

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folks

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know you are being subconsciously manipulated toward the reward centre of your brian

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Yeah, I know I was going through something with her.

I just wonder about the first cancer, when the doctors were doing radiation on my head.

How do you fake a brain/eye cancer?

And she does know how to induce cancer. She did it in lab animals professionally, and there's a high probability she's done it to a few people, just seeing how many in her circle develop it.

I can see how she faked the cancer in me for chemo later on. I'm pretty sure she passed it off as leukemia and just faked some blood lab results.

And the later radiation therapy she literally snuck me into the room for, so no lab-work fabrication was needed.

But, how do you fake a brain or eye cancer...
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You mentioned that she induced cancer in lab animals and suspect she did it to you. What if she simply told the radiotherapist that you had cancer to test radiation as a cancer inducer?

What I mean is the radiotherapist didn't question her because he was helping her with her experiment and you were just an advanced lab animal she could get non lethal reports on the progress of her "cancer" inducements...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Anything's possible with that one.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You have to admit human testing of things like cancer and HIV does have its merits.

The merit being long term survivability of people afflicted with these disorders.

I'm not saying what happened to you was good, but the psychopath in your life probably adopted you just because it was part of her research. :(
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


It's possible. She was there recruiting adults when she stumbled across me and adopted me.

I've just always had a prayer running 24/7 in the back of my head that what I went through was just the result of one very work-focused psychopath, rather than an entire government/industry branch, you know? I'm not saying it isn't possible.

We all know nazi scientists got away with it in the open for ages, and the that US was indeed testing on people without their permission as well...but there's a psychological block on admitting that crap could still be going on, even though we know it always has been and thus probably still is.

....There's also the hope that people are at least ethical enough to have written "no children" somewhere in the rules manual.

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Yeah, I know I was going through something with her.

I just wonder about the first cancer, when the doctors were doing radiation on my head.

How do you fake a brain/eye cancer?

And she does know how to induce cancer. She did it in lab animals professionally, and there's a high probability she's done it to a few people, just seeing how many in her circle develop it.

I can see how she faked the cancer in me for chemo later on. I'm pretty sure she passed it off as leukemia and just faked some blood lab results.

And the later radiation therapy she literally snuck me into the room for, so no lab-work fabrication was needed.

But, how do you fake a brain or eye cancer...
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You mentioned that she induced cancer in lab animals and suspect she did it to you. What if she simply told the radiotherapist that you had cancer to test radiation as a cancer inducer?

What I mean is the radiotherapist didn't question her because he was helping her with her experiment and you were just an advanced lab animal she could get non lethal reports on the progress of her "cancer" inducements...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Anything's possible with that one.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


....

She did claim to be doing research in a similar kind of manner. I do wonder sometimes if I was just a free range lab rat. And I do know I was essentially born without rights (legally speaking, coming from a war zone). And I do know they were doing research on adult subjects who felt cornered into it.

But would anyone, besides a random psychopath doing side research, really be willing to do cancer-inducing research on a human child? I mean, would it have been accepted within the organization/medical field even for DoD research? It's possible, but I tend to lean towards all this crap being her at-home side project.
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You claim to have been illegally adopted from a warzone by a psychopath and remember feeling sick and actually getting cancer from cancer treatments done by an associate of said psychopath.

I have to admit; the concept of using microwave radiation from cell towers to promote cancer to profit off of the nuclear medicine of western medical corporations does sound like a psychopathic and highly profitable thing.

Makes mental note to buy shares in an American pharmaceutical corporation... :D





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