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TlvmmCpoft  (OP)

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You mentioned that she induced cancer in lab animals and suspect she did it to you. What if she simply told the radiotherapist that you had cancer to test radiation as a cancer inducer?

What I mean is the radiotherapist didn't question her because he was helping her with her experiment and you were just an advanced lab animal she could get non lethal reports on the progress of her "cancer" inducements...
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Anything's possible with that one.
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She did claim to be doing research in a similar kind of manner. I do wonder sometimes if I was just a free range lab rat. And I do know I was essentially born without rights (legally speaking, coming from a war zone). And I do know they were doing research on adult subjects who felt cornered into it.

But would anyone, besides a random psychopath doing side research, really be willing to do cancer-inducing research on a human child? I mean, would it have been accepted within the organization/medical field even for DoD research? It's possible, but I tend to lean towards all this crap being her at-home side project.
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You claim to have been illegally adopted from a warzone by a psychopath and remember feeling sick and actually getting cancer from cancer treatments done by an associate of said psychopath.

I have to admit; the concept of using microwave radiation from cell towers to promote cancer to profit off of the nuclear medicine of western medical corporations does sound like a psychopathic and highly profitable thing.

Makes mental note to buy shares in an American pharmaceutical corporation... :D
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Definitely buy those shares...and then buy me a coffee.

Meh. I'm just sitting here like an idiot trying to have a glimmer of hope that it was one person acting out of line rather than company policy.

And I still want to know what to tell my eye doctor before some tumor re-emerges in the middle of my freaking eyeball.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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You did not have cancer; nothing suggests that your first "exposure" was medically appropriate in an absolute sense.

Altering documents, pocketing your 'lab rat' payments, etc. are pretty loathsome moves.

Using radiation on a healthy body can, given the dosage, etc. trigger unbridled cancer growths that would not necessarily develop in the site that was irradiated.

Gotta run to a gathering, will check in later.
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God knows. hf

The chemo definitely triggered cancer.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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You mentioned that she induced cancer in lab animals and suspect she did it to you. What if she simply told the radiotherapist that you had cancer to test radiation as a cancer inducer?

What I mean is the radiotherapist didn't question her because he was helping her with her experiment and you were just an advanced lab animal she could get non lethal reports on the progress of her "cancer" inducements...
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Anything's possible with that one.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You have to admit human testing of things like cancer and HIV does have its merits.

The merit being long term survivability of people afflicted with these disorders.

I'm not saying what happened to you was good, but the psychopath in your life probably adopted you just because it was part of her research. :(
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


It's possible. She was there recruiting adults when she stumbled across me and adopted me.

I've just always had a prayer running 24/7 in the back of my head that what I went through was just the result of one very work-focused psychopath, rather than an entire government/industry branch, you know? I'm not saying it isn't possible.

We all know nazi scientists got away with it in the open for ages, and the that US was indeed testing on people without their permission as well...but there's a psychological block on admitting that crap could still be going on, even though we know it always has been and thus probably still is.

....There's also the hope that people are at least ethical enough to have written "no children" somewhere in the rules manual.
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I admire your wishful thinking; although I think it's crazy because children are a common control method for parents among psychopaths.

But you know what cognitive dissonance and you're contemplating that you may suffer from it which is a good sign of healing.

Good luck Ms TlvmmCpoft! :)
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Anything's possible with that one.
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She did claim to be doing research in a similar kind of manner. I do wonder sometimes if I was just a free range lab rat. And I do know I was essentially born without rights (legally speaking, coming from a war zone). And I do know they were doing research on adult subjects who felt cornered into it.

But would anyone, besides a random psychopath doing side research, really be willing to do cancer-inducing research on a human child? I mean, would it have been accepted within the organization/medical field even for DoD research? It's possible, but I tend to lean towards all this crap being her at-home side project.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You claim to have been illegally adopted from a warzone by a psychopath and remember feeling sick and actually getting cancer from cancer treatments done by an associate of said psychopath.

I have to admit; the concept of using microwave radiation from cell towers to promote cancer to profit off of the nuclear medicine of western medical corporations does sound like a psychopathic and highly profitable thing.

Makes mental note to buy shares in an American pharmaceutical corporation... :D
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Definitely buy those shares...and then buy me a coffee.

Meh. I'm just sitting here like an idiot trying to have a glimmer of hope that it was one person acting out of line rather than company policy.

And I still want to know what to tell my eye doctor before some tumor re-emerges in the middle of my freaking eyeball.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


First I need to buy shares in IBM, Boeing and then Pfizer.

Ima gonna be Richie Rich!
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Anything's possible with that one.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You have to admit human testing of things like cancer and HIV does have its merits.

The merit being long term survivability of people afflicted with these disorders.

I'm not saying what happened to you was good, but the psychopath in your life probably adopted you just because it was part of her research. :(
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


It's possible. She was there recruiting adults when she stumbled across me and adopted me.

I've just always had a prayer running 24/7 in the back of my head that what I went through was just the result of one very work-focused psychopath, rather than an entire government/industry branch, you know? I'm not saying it isn't possible.

We all know nazi scientists got away with it in the open for ages, and the that US was indeed testing on people without their permission as well...but there's a psychological block on admitting that crap could still be going on, even though we know it always has been and thus probably still is.

....There's also the hope that people are at least ethical enough to have written "no children" somewhere in the rules manual.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I admire your wishful thinking; although I think it's crazy because children are a common control method for parents among psychopaths.

But you know what cognitive dissonance and you're contemplating that you may suffer from it which is a good sign of healing.

Good luck Ms TlvmmCpoft! :)
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Let me have my wishful thinking. hf

I can fight back against a single psychopath. But governments full of them? suicide

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You have to admit human testing of things like cancer and HIV does have its merits.

The merit being long term survivability of people afflicted with these disorders.

I'm not saying what happened to you was good, but the psychopath in your life probably adopted you just because it was part of her research. :(
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


It's possible. She was there recruiting adults when she stumbled across me and adopted me.

I've just always had a prayer running 24/7 in the back of my head that what I went through was just the result of one very work-focused psychopath, rather than an entire government/industry branch, you know? I'm not saying it isn't possible.

We all know nazi scientists got away with it in the open for ages, and the that US was indeed testing on people without their permission as well...but there's a psychological block on admitting that crap could still be going on, even though we know it always has been and thus probably still is.

....There's also the hope that people are at least ethical enough to have written "no children" somewhere in the rules manual.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I admire your wishful thinking; although I think it's crazy because children are a common control method for parents among psychopaths.

But you know what cognitive dissonance and you're contemplating that you may suffer from it which is a good sign of healing.

Good luck Ms TlvmmCpoft! :)
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Let me have my wishful thinking. hf

I can fight back against a single psychopath. But governments full of them? suicide
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Sorry Ms TlvmmCpoft, you're right!

The lady who adopted you was a rogue agent looking for fame and fortune amongst the medical community. She worked alone to torment young children and lab animals with heinous diseases. :)
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It's possible. She was there recruiting adults when she stumbled across me and adopted me.

I've just always had a prayer running 24/7 in the back of my head that what I went through was just the result of one very work-focused psychopath, rather than an entire government/industry branch, you know? I'm not saying it isn't possible.

We all know nazi scientists got away with it in the open for ages, and the that US was indeed testing on people without their permission as well...but there's a psychological block on admitting that crap could still be going on, even though we know it always has been and thus probably still is.

....There's also the hope that people are at least ethical enough to have written "no children" somewhere in the rules manual.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


I admire your wishful thinking; although I think it's crazy because children are a common control method for parents among psychopaths.

But you know what cognitive dissonance and you're contemplating that you may suffer from it which is a good sign of healing.

Good luck Ms TlvmmCpoft! :)
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Let me have my wishful thinking. hf

I can fight back against a single psychopath. But governments full of them? suicide
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Sorry Ms TlvmmCpoft, you're right!

The lady who adopted you was a rogue agent looking for fame and fortune amongst the medical community. She worked alone to torment young children and lab animals with heinous diseases. :)
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


1rof1

Hey, you never know.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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I admire your wishful thinking; although I think it's crazy because children are a common control method for parents among psychopaths.

But you know what cognitive dissonance and you're contemplating that you may suffer from it which is a good sign of healing.

Good luck Ms TlvmmCpoft! :)
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Let me have my wishful thinking. hf

I can fight back against a single psychopath. But governments full of them? suicide
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Sorry Ms TlvmmCpoft, you're right!

The lady who adopted you was a rogue agent looking for fame and fortune amongst the medical community. She worked alone to torment young children and lab animals with heinous diseases. :)
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


1rof1

Hey, you never know.
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hf
I believe it with all my heart Ms TlvmmCpoft. I've accepted it as a self evident truth.
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That is some scary reading right there... she should be in prison.
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Let me have my wishful thinking. hf

I can fight back against a single psychopath. But governments full of them? suicide
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Sorry Ms TlvmmCpoft, you're right!

The lady who adopted you was a rogue agent looking for fame and fortune amongst the medical community. She worked alone to torment young children and lab animals with heinous diseases. :)
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


1rof1

Hey, you never know.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


hf
I believe it with all my heart Ms TlvmmCpoft. I've accepted it as a self evident truth.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


To be honest, I think it was partially true.

She lied to everyone: me, the public in general, her bosses.

That's just a psychopath thing to do. They don't have loyalties.

I don't think everything she did was government approved. I know it wasn't family approved (going based on how she hid me from her own family).

As for how much what she did in life that was government approved, though... that's a mountain to dive into another day.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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That is some scary reading right there... she should be in prison.
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Agreed.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Sorry Ms TlvmmCpoft, you're right!

The lady who adopted you was a rogue agent looking for fame and fortune amongst the medical community. She worked alone to torment young children and lab animals with heinous diseases. :)
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


1rof1

Hey, you never know.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


hf
I believe it with all my heart Ms TlvmmCpoft. I've accepted it as a self evident truth.
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


To be honest, I think it was partially true.

She lied to everyone: me, the public in general, her bosses.

That's just a psychopath thing to do. They don't have loyalties.

I don't think everything she did was government approved. I know it wasn't family approved (going based on how she hid me from her own family).

As for how much what she did in life that was government approved, though... that's a mountain to dive into another day.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


You've lived an interesting life Ms TlvmmCpoft. At the end of your life in front of your maker you'll be able to say, "At least I wasn't bored!" :)
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You've lived an interesting life Ms TlvmmCpoft. At the end of your life in front of your maker you'll be able to say, "At least I wasn't bored!" :)
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Pft. An interesting life is great if you willingly sign up for it at 18 like an idiot. It's a bit shit when you grow up in it.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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I'm so sorry Ms TlvmmCpoft.

What years did this happen?
Is she still alive?

I was poisoned and see some similarities.
When the poison is ingested there are red marks inside the stomach that look like cancer in an endoscopy. Also swelling of the esophagus which causes difficulty swallowing. Then diarrhea for 6 months.
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You've lived an interesting life Ms TlvmmCpoft. At the end of your life in front of your maker you'll be able to say, "At least I wasn't bored!" :)
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Pft. An interesting life is great if you willingly sign up for it at 18 like an idiot. It's a bit shit when you grow up in it.
 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


People shoot opiates and smoke or snort meth out of boredom...

:thisisglp:

At least we don't need to worry about you haunting truck stops because you need money just because you're bored.

I don't want to share my life story because there's too much I don't know about it, but I've lived an interesting life too and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Being in Hell is a lot like a lot of time to think and not enough going on to distract you from your thoughts.
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I'm so sorry Ms TlvmmCpoft.

What years did this happen?
Is she still alive?

I was poisoned and see some similarities.
When the poison is ingested there are red marks inside the stomach that look like cancer in an endoscopy. Also swelling of the esophagus which causes difficulty swallowing. Then diarrhea for 6 months.
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The first radiation was around 1981.

The bitch won't die but she's definitely into her retirement years. Not that retirement means anything. She currently has a teenager living with her who developed cancer while staying with her. It killed me a little inside to find that out. He's now physically worn out like I was. She's also profited on it (major cash donations from a concerned community).

I had difficulty swallowing pretty much my whole life, but it turns out I was allergic to a really common ingredient, so I don't know if I can blame her for that one. I've been happily not choking on every meal for a little over a year now after removing it from my diet.

I hope you've recovered from the poisoning. There are still times I have shit days, but they're fairly rare. Still, they spook me. Like, oh lord please not this again.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

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I'm not a doctor and have no idea if you had cancer as a child.

But most of the long term Glpers have had a direct relationship with a very real conspiracy in their personal lives.

If you didn't have a conspiracy in your life you probably wouldn't be here because you'd be... "Normal"

Have you thought about going through your medical record from that time to determine what happened?
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


The only thing of note in my pediatrician's file is "suspected child abuse." No mention of the cancer treatment or cancer - at all.

Which is why I assume it was mostly paid research, because none of the paid research trials made it into my pediatrician's medical file, probably because most of it was bullshit fake conditions created to get me into the trials and get her the cash.

However, all of her screaming after the first radiation therapy doesn't sound like it was a trial? Or maybe it was. Screaming doesn't exactly make it not a trial.

Understanding psychopaths gives me a headache.

 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Understanding psychopaths is useful for a Machiavellian Narcissistic Psychopath, because it shows you things about yourself you wouldn't otherwise contemplate. :D
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Not all Machiavellians are psychopaths, I don’t think. I was given the MACHV, not knowing what it was, and, answering honestly, I scored a 96.

I thought everyone thought that way.

What keeps me in check is my belief in Christ. I know that He declares certain actions wrong, and that’s the final word.

I don’t believe you are saying this, as you qualify a subset of psychopaths as Machiavellian — just wanted to get my story into the ether as food for thought.
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I'm not a doctor and have no idea if you had cancer as a child.

But most of the long term Glpers have had a direct relationship with a very real conspiracy in their personal lives.

If you didn't have a conspiracy in your life you probably wouldn't be here because you'd be... "Normal"

Have you thought about going through your medical record from that time to determine what happened?
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


The only thing of note in my pediatrician's file is "suspected child abuse." No mention of the cancer treatment or cancer - at all.

Which is why I assume it was mostly paid research, because none of the paid research trials made it into my pediatrician's medical file, probably because most of it was bullshit fake conditions created to get me into the trials and get her the cash.

However, all of her screaming after the first radiation therapy doesn't sound like it was a trial? Or maybe it was. Screaming doesn't exactly make it not a trial.

Understanding psychopaths gives me a headache.

 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Understanding psychopaths is useful for a Machiavellian Narcissistic Psychopath, because it shows you things about yourself you wouldn't otherwise contemplate. :D
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Not all Machiavellians are psychopaths, I don’t think. I was given the MACHV, not knowing what it was, and, answering honestly, I scored a 96.

I thought everyone thought that way.

What keeps me in check is my belief in Christ. I know that He declares certain actions wrong, and that’s the final word.

I don’t believe you are saying this, as you qualify a subset of psychopaths as Machiavellian — just wanted to get my story into the ether as food for thought.
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I'm a Machiavellian, Narcissistic Psychopath and thanks to normalcy bias I think everyone's just like me. And put not so bluntly, that does scare me more than just a little.

I just did the MACHIV and scored 99/100! Almost perfect like always. :D
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The only thing of note in my pediatrician's file is "suspected child abuse." No mention of the cancer treatment or cancer - at all.

Which is why I assume it was mostly paid research, because none of the paid research trials made it into my pediatrician's medical file, probably because most of it was bullshit fake conditions created to get me into the trials and get her the cash.

However, all of her screaming after the first radiation therapy doesn't sound like it was a trial? Or maybe it was. Screaming doesn't exactly make it not a trial.

Understanding psychopaths gives me a headache.

 Quoting: TlvmmCpoft


Understanding psychopaths is useful for a Machiavellian Narcissistic Psychopath, because it shows you things about yourself you wouldn't otherwise contemplate. :D
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Not all Machiavellians are psychopaths, I don’t think. I was given the MACHV, not knowing what it was, and, answering honestly, I scored a 96.

I thought everyone thought that way.

What keeps me in check is my belief in Christ. I know that He declares certain actions wrong, and that’s the final word.

I don’t believe you are saying this, as you qualify a subset of psychopaths as Machiavellian — just wanted to get my story into the ether as food for thought.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77762657


I'm a Machiavellian, Narcissistic Psychopath and thanks to normalcy bias I think everyone's just like me. And put not so bluntly, that does scare me more than just a little.

I just did the MACHIV and scored 99/100! Almost perfect like always. :D
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


I got a 70. Mostly, because I perceive the world negatively (I don't believe most people are honest, etc).

I think the survey is flawed, though. Just because I think people are self-serving doesn't mean I would want to take advantage of it. I'm more likely to walk away in frustration than anything.

Last Edited by TlvmmCpoft on 10/22/2019 02:35 PM
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I am so sorry and pray you find peace.

Sorry I mentioned München ....

I was looking for an aid to rescue the little boy .

In a way it does not matter if you had the cancer before she started playing games with your body ......tell the doctors what happened .They May be able to tell what happened .

Hope you writing this has helped you to heal and turned the horror into a story .

Sometimes things being a story stops the emotional pain .

Strangely I was wondering today if women could be psychopaths ......you have given me the answer ......seems they can .

May you have the peace that passes all understanding ....given by the Good God .
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So, again, the question that has plagued me. Did I have cancer before all of the treatment?

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When you received a radiation treatment to your head...did they shield you with a lead apron from your neck to your crotch?

If not...I would suspect it was "off the record" and I would also suspect you did not have cancer.
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So, again, the question that has plagued me. Did I have cancer before all of the treatment?

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When you received a radiation treatment to your head...did they shield you with a lead apron from your neck to your crotch?

If not...I would suspect it was "off the record" and I would also suspect you did not have cancer.
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I genuinely can't remember if there was a vest. I wore too many of those things as a kid, I'm assuming for xrays mostly.
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Understanding psychopaths is useful for a Machiavellian Narcissistic Psychopath, because it shows you things about yourself you wouldn't otherwise contemplate. :D
 Quoting: NowIhavetothinkofaname 73478784


Not all Machiavellians are psychopaths, I don’t think. I was given the MACHV, not knowing what it was, and, answering honestly, I scored a 96.

I thought everyone thought that way.

What keeps me in check is my belief in Christ. I know that He declares certain actions wrong, and that’s the final word.

I don’t believe you are saying this, as you qualify a subset of psychopaths as Machiavellian — just wanted to get my story into the ether as food for thought.
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I'm a Machiavellian, Narcissistic Psychopath and thanks to normalcy bias I think everyone's just like me. And put not so bluntly, that does scare me more than just a little.

I just did the MACHIV and scored 99/100! Almost perfect like always. :D
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I got a 70. Mostly, because I perceive the world negatively (I don't believe most people are honest, etc).

I think the survey is flawed, though. Just because I think people are self-serving doesn't mean I would want to take advantage of it. I'm more likely to walk away in frustration than anything.
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The whole leading principal of Machiavelli's "The Prince" was people are not to be trusted and everything done in the name of money and power is justifiable. This is so by the peace the peasantry enjoys through stable and profitable governance.

Weak people should enjoy their comfy lives of peaceful, calm boredom. Where their biggest issue is one of little to no consequence, in fact the smaller the consequence the happier they usually are. :o

Politics is a lot like warfare in that both rely on deception.

Having a jaded point of view of the honesty of most self serving people doesn't make someone a bad person, it just means they're a realist. Which is something everyone should be, but most people would rather other scary people protect them from the ills of the world. Lest their fragile sense of self or things they care for become undone.

Everyone has a place on Earth and we all fill our roles to the best of our ability with the gifts granted to us.
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I am so sorry and pray you find peace.

Sorry I mentioned München ....

I was looking for an aid to rescue the little boy .

In a way it does not matter if you had the cancer before she started playing games with your body ......tell the doctors what happened .They May be able to tell what happened .

Hope you writing this has helped you to heal and turned the horror into a story .

Sometimes things being a story stops the emotional pain .

Strangely I was wondering today if women could be psychopaths ......you have given me the answer ......seems they can .

May you have the peace that passes all understanding ....given by the Good God .
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Having that conversation with a doctor is difficult. "By the way, I was raised by a crazy lady who used the medical field as a form of child abuse and profit."

I'm always looking for a simpler less emotionally wrecked way of giving them a medical history. Knowing what the actual cancer was, and if I had one, would be nice. Unfortunately, it's probably not something I'll ever get a straight answer on to give to the doctors.

Although, the first time I told an eye doctor that I'd had surgery and radiation was the first time I actually received treatment that improved my vision, I'd assume because they actually knew what they were dealing with instead of being given a false medical history. I waited until I was nearly 40 to get up the nerve to have that conversation.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Anything's possible with that one.


quote: TlvmmCpoft: She did claim to be doing research in a similar kind of manner. I do wonder sometimes if I was just a free range lab rat. but I tend to lean towards all this crap being her at-home side project.


You claim to have been illegally adopted from a warzone by a psychopath and remember feeling sick and actually getting cancer from cancer treatments done by an associate of said psychopath.



Did this monster expose you to any other forms of torment?

Can you file suit for wrongful adoption, pain and suffering and mental abuse? If so the disclosure portion of the trial would force the release of many of the records that you require to determine the truth of any of it.

OP, your story breaks my heart, I have no doubt that things like this actually occur, but we are on the NET and anyone can make any claim and it will basically go unchallenged.

If you really suffered as you said, my heart breaks for you. Good luck in your future and don't let this madness DEFINE who and what you become in life.

To spite your tormentor you must find love, and have lots of children that you love and adore, send her pictures, but NEVER allow her near you or your LOVED ONES.

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in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

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I know you're not going to like this answer OP...but IMHO I think it would be your best move to forgive (DON'T forget)...and move past this.

To forgive them will give YOU peace...do it!

To forget will give THEM peace...DON'T do it!

My $0.02
If I am going to be damned...I am going to be damned for who I really am!
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I know you're not going to like this answer OP...but IMHO I think it would be your best move to forgive (DON'T forget)...and move past this.

To forgive them will give YOU peace...do it!

To forget will give THEM peace...DON'T do it!

My $0.02
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Yeah, but what if there are leftover cancer cells multiplying as we speak and no one knows which ones or where to look at to find them?

Meh. I just want my medical history so I can continue to live and have a medical history.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.
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Doesn't matter.

Don't give in to the drama.

Take the cards you have and get the best hand you can manage.

Spit on the past, hold your head up, and walk on.
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If there is no record, no. If one doctor has it could be a manipulation on her part. If multiple doctors/hospitals have you with cancer and some record of testing you did. In the absence of this, no just a sick twisted family member
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Did this monster expose you to any other forms of torment?

Can you file suit for wrongful adoption, pain and suffering and mental abuse? If so the disclosure portion of the trial would force the release of many of the records that you require to determine the truth of any of it.

OP, your story breaks my heart, I have no doubt that things like this actually occur, but we are on the NET and anyone can make any claim and it will basically go unchallenged.

If you really suffered as you said, my heart breaks for you. Good luck in your future and don't let this madness DEFINE who and what you become in life.

To spite your tormentor you must find love, and have lots of children that you love and adore, send her pictures, but NEVER allow her near you or your LOVED ONES.
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She sold me into a lot of things, not just medical. It was pretty much anything that a profit could be made on.

I used to try to make sense of it and couldn't until I realized the only commonality it all had was profit in her pocket.

As for the adoption, I'm working on fighting it, but it was international and a giant nightmare, so I'm not just dealing with one obstinate country - I'm dealing with two. By the time it gets sorted out, it'll be my great grandchildren receiving the results.
I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies.

There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture.





GLP