How quickly we forget

So, Chelsea can expect to wake up to a room of economic migrants?



All joking aside, it's a bad idea to accept payment from a drug addict or psychopath, even if it's for work you have done. They will continue to see the money as theirs, even when it is in your hands, and will steal it back with 1000% interest.

As some of the member states are learning.

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My sister in law is a narc and her oldest daughter is like your brother - her puppet who she uses to do her bidding.

What did the psycho do to you, physically? Medical experiments, data collection, physical abuse (beatings)?

Was she hitting on young girls and do you think she's a lesbian?

Chelsea strikes me as a hapless dope and loyal. All the easier for Hillary for Hillary to control her. In a very recent interview, Chelsea was asked if a man with a penis could be a woman and she said yes. Total PC moron. She's certainly been rewarded as a mafia daughter. She lives in a 10 million dollar Manhattan pad that is a city block deep. She was put on some corporate board at a salary of 600K.

Over my life, she...

sold me into paid medical research (she scammed the researchers, I don't think they were generally "in on it")

sold me into dangerous and illicit work - and kept the paycheck

used me as a "model" for blackmail photography when I was little (don't make me spell that one out)

sent me to do tasks, as a child, that she felt were too dangerous or inaccessible for her, these involved everything from involvement with recruiting, terrorist activities, and delivering god knows what - mostly letters, envelopes, scientific equipment, and people

oh yeah, and I was a delivery girl

and I was a "relocation specialist" (i.e. furniture mover and driver) for our special clients (they acted like witness protection clients but probably the more criminal side)

she used my name for various scams, so identity theft on her part

she had me open several bank accounts in New Haven and then took full control and access to them. There are five I can think of. I have no fucking idea what she did with them.

There's more...more I'm overlooking, more I don't feel like typing for an hour, more I haven't even been able to tangibly identify how she was profiting from, I just guarantee she was.

As for abuse. Not much directly physically. She used to use professional interrogation methods on me - when I was a child. That was something to endure. there was drugging, not medicinal or prescribed, things with a datura base. she was trying to make me into a puppet - she got creative with that.

really creative. You remember Delgado? The guy who used to lecture at Yale about putting electrodes in a bull skull and forcing society to behave with similar tech? He was banned from Yale by the time I was on campus with her, but been lecturing there the same time she was working on campus previously. Same general area of campus, too.

Anyway, when I was there she "twists some wrists" at the dean's level, gets them to allow Delgado on campus for a couple hours, brings him over from Spain for a consultation on my behavior (she didn't think I was obedient enough, even though I was overly obedient) and for my fake epilepsy. She was claiming I had epilepsy, I didn't (social services chased her for years over that fake diagnosis because it sounded fake), but Delgado had been limited in scope over the years because of his ethics and was only allowed to work on certain patients - mainly epileptics. I'm not commenting on the consultation itself right now - let's just call it "parent initiated medical abuse" and leave it at that.

Shit like that. Endless shit like that.

OMG. You really should write a book.

Is the psycho a well known person?

Much of what you describe is classic MK Ultra and/or SRA cult abuse (same thing, really), like the drugging you and using you as a mule (slave) for illegal activities. Was there ever any cult/occult shit going on that you recall?

She's a lesbian. They were technically legal consenting age in that state, 16+. God she is lecherous, though. Ever have someone look at you and feel dirty from it? Gehhhhhh. I'm not judging her sexual preference, just how she approaches it.

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Yeah, she was clearly pulling from manuals she had read at work.

As for the occult crap, I don't put much weight on it, but I will humor you with this old thread of mine..

I'm not sure I alluded to location in the thread because I was trying to keep people focused on the topic. It happened in the lower level of S&B and people always lose their minds over the societies..like I've said, they were buildings, on campus, with assholes occupying them, get over it.

Thread: Any satanic ritual experts around here? I have a question

Eggghhh. Yep. Why are so many of them lecherous in that circle? Just a lack of impulse control?

In New Haven and in the shivering memories of many politicians from Yale to DC, yes.

On the national stage, no.

I've gotta go to bed but will look at your other thread on rituals tomorrow.

That's right, they have no impulse/APPETITE control. They're accountable to no one, see themselves as superior and are amoral.

Sleep well.

I should probably go get things done, myself.

I've been looking at that cult ritual thread. Looked up girl/maiden/virgin carrying a bowl of water and found some google book on Greek artifacts and art and it said girls carried water at blood sacrifices. Had something to to with sharpening the knife or ax. It also mentioned girls carrying incense which you mentioned in your other thread. Dunno, ultimately, but could be the Bonesmen pull from various ancient classical mythology and make their own hodgepodge with a little of this and a little of that.

I'm a spiritual person and believe in "God" (a creative force from which all that is sprung) but I'm not religious and I don't like rituals. Anyway, Satanists, Luciferians, Masons, pagans and whatthefuckever repulse me. Their rituals are so cheesy or scary violent and absurd and while I know they're garbage or even criminal abominations and don't buy into any of that shit, THEY believe it. In the case of Skull & Bones, I'm sure they point to all of the presidents and supreme court justices and other high accomplishments of alum and attribute some of that success to their cult nonsense. They're a cult, alright, but the meaningless rituals are just glue that binds well connected people who are entrenched in the establishment and would rise to power anyway.

OP, in your cult thread you said:

The 1960s was a fucking virus that infected everything.

Indeed. Watch this:


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Yeah, I don't think that one little pomp and circumstance ritual was particularly linked with the pyscho's behavior in my life, other than that you have to be a very determined psycho to get into those clubs.

I agree that the rituals are more about having a shared secret tradition within the societies more than anything. I know I wasn't taking it extremely seriously and I doubt I was the only one.

Although, I admit, I was wondering if they had become slightly more modern and were DNA testing or something along those lines. During the blood part of the ritual (only a few drops), the blood was put on glass slides - and labeled with our names - like you would use for a sample to examine it under a microscope...not quite the bloodbath one would imagine.

This was around the time when genetics were just getting rolling. I think, in the science itself, we were still working our way through the initial examining of the human genome. It might have been too early to look at DNA. Maybe they were looking for something simpler like blood type or disease? Who knows.

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Yep, yep, yep.

Delgado

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Yep. Not the guy you want a possible Munchhausen by Proxy "mom" to have access to.

He was creepy in person. I got the feeling that he thought people needed "electronic-forced impulse control" because he lacked impulse control himself.

From that link:

"Rodríguez Delgado believed that his experiment with a female chimpanzee named Paddy was more significant. Paddy was fitted with a stimoceiver linked to a computer that detected the brain signal called a spindle which was emitted by her part of the brain called the amygdala. When the spindle was recognized, the stimoceiver sent a signal to the central gray area of Paddy's brain, producing an 'aversive reaction'. In this case, the aversive reaction was an unpleasant or painful feeling... Within hours her brain was producing fewer spindles as a result of the negative feedback.[8] As a result, Paddy became “quieter, less attentive and less motivated during behavioral testing”. Although Paddy's reaction was not exactly ideal, Rodríguez Delgado hypothesized that the method used on Paddy could be used on others to stop panic attacks, seizures, and other disorders controlled by certain signals within the brain."



My not being obedient enough for her stemmed from the fact I'd have anxiety attacks when she would ask me, as a small child, to go into buildings alone while she waited outside somewhere, con the security by saying my mom was inside, and then deliver envelopes for her to specific adults I had never met before in my life who were located somewhere in those giant buildings.

So, maybe his "panic attack curing" was the relevant part. FFS. This world is full of people who should not exist.

I was just being a normal kid.

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Back around 2003-2004, I joined Whitley Streiber's forum, Unknown Country, out of a long interest in UFOs and alien abduction. Because of some of the abductees there, it ended up taking an unexpected turn to human based mind control. I spend a couple of years digging deep into that subject and am now convinced there is no such thing as alien abduction and it's all cult based mind control. It does have a paranormal aspect to it in that these cult creeps think they can harness occult powers through rituals but it's all just fucked up, degenerate, power crazy people at the bottom of it. The kids they screw with become true believers in the alien thing because of mind control and bizarre rituals. Man, I could relate some hair raising stories from other posters there. A couple of takeaways I got out of all of that was that they all believed it was "Nazis" behind their abuse but they were all hard core leftists/progressives (even communist). There also seemed to be a consistent link to organized crime and all of the victims were used in such endeavors by their handlers. Everything from political blackmail, assassinations, drug transport and prostitution. What this weird intersection is between Nazis, commies and organized crime is hard to decipher but it was apparent it all boiled down to the "establishment" being behind and involved in this shit.

Yep.

Ridiculing or discrediting an "unpaid non-voluntary assistant" is easy if you hand reared them, drugged the hell out of them, and screwed with their minds during the developmental years.

It's not even always just mind fucks. My dearest psycho physically injured me and the lasting injury is the first thing she points out when trying to discredit me.

That's why I hate mentioning Skull and Bones (even though it was just a building in an area we were already in daily), Argentina (even though it's a country with a history that can be found in books), and obviously the Delgado thing is a giant what the fuck (even though he was a professor back when my abuser was in that same university and they probably had ties and connections between them going back that far).

There's a ton of other stuff, obviously. Anyone who mentions the DoD, Cointel, CIA, etc is immediately schizo (even though a large percentage of the US gov budget goes to exactly those things).

But if I mention literally nothing, then I remain silent. And what good does silence do?

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It may sound horrid to you but ever bit of your life experience per your karma you earned, no doubt you were a monster in a past life and now you lived the oppression of monsters, a fitting end may you learn well from the this suffering and take actions to have a better life next time

Whatever helps you sleep at night, dearest.

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As for organized crime, it and government eventually become the same thing. It's a survival mechanism.

Let's say you're running drugs and women over the border. You don't want to get caught, so you send one of your gang to train to become border control. Problem solved.

As the crime gets bigger, the problems get to state levels and federal levels, and we end up with criminals as politicians and political puppeteers so they can continue to run their criminal enterprises.

I've been around the globe a bit over the years (okay, a lot) and seen governments at various stages. Usually, it only takes ten years from the formation of a new government, one built with good and anti-mafia intentions, before the corruption starts to take hold again to the point it's obvious from the outside.

So, when you see government and organized crime together, that makes sense.

No comment on the ideologies. That's another can of worms on its own.

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I noticed in these "cult" stories that they include low level, petty criminals, who are used by higher level corrupt officials. The look like different groups of people because they're different strata of society but it's all in pursuit of the same stuff. For instance, say someone outs a corrupt, local politician. That politician turns to to the corrupt police chief who uses street thugs/petty criminals to harass or even kill the person causing the problems for the politician. Like the Clintons, dirty deeds are always several degrees removed from the people calling the shots which gives them plausible deniability.

I would actually be very interested in your thoughts on the ideological bent of the upper echelon.

Speaking of THE cult (it's an octopus) and the mass collective insanity being induced by these fuckers, the video in this OP is a MUST SEE:

Thread: The FREAKY Truth About EXTINCTION REBELLION

A few years back, Luciferian whore, Madonna, did a routine in one her tours, called "Desecration of the Bride: Arrival of the Fallen Angels". She was on a cross for that one. In her previous tour, she did something similar with a giant movie screen behind her showing huge black and white images of angels falling from Heaven or God's domain or whatever. Reminded me of Dore's etchings for Dante's Inferno. These freaks are all in on pushing this anti Christ, Luciferian debauchery. Whatever anyone's feelings are about spirituality, religion, Christianity, "Satan" (Lucifer), it is obvious that the global establishment cult is doing everything it can to defile the message of Christ (not religion but his teachings) and to bring in a world wide death cult. If only we could convince them that the right next move would be a collective suicide in protest of LIVING.

Yep.

I dealt with pretty much exactly that, in person.
As I mentioned, I was used to blackmail the country sheriff when I was little. Then we moved to the main town of the county (New Haven), where...oh my...the most corrupt FBI field office in the country is located (according to FBI whistle blowers who have worked there) and "mom's" new boyfriend (new to me, they had been friends/partners previously) was working through there.

As if that wasn't enough, through Yale, the police were under control (they weren't supposed to mess with Yalies, etc...too rich to touch, too much financial backing to ruin). And then, there were the higher political connections through the societies, going all the way to the top offices in the nation.

So, while I had incredible freedom (no one stopped me or my friends from dancing through the streets at 4 in the morning), and that bought and paid for liberty and protection was comforting, it also left me trapped.

Completely trapped.

The police not only couldn't do anything, but she would send them out like her personal goon squad to go collect me if I left the house when she didn't approve. This was when I was a teen. The official rule for teens that have simply stormed out is wait 24 hours to list them as missing. I could expect them to hunt me down in under two hours and terrorize anyone in my vicinity. It didn't help with my friendships, trust me. I was afraid to go to anyone's house.

These are also the same police who told me not to worry about it when I asked if I should really be signing a name I had gotten from a falsified birth certificate to attain my first official photo ID.

Social services also ended up having to back off after she threatened to sue them and god knows what else. Money and power can shut down just about anything.

And, someone, in some office - after I moved out - was giving my "mom" any information on me that was showing up in the databases. Every time I used my name for something - got pulled over by police and had to show ID, applied for assistance (I was dead poor in the beginning, I may have "come from money" but there was no financial support or savings), etc - every time, she'd be given my location.

And, speaking of that mix between gov and crime, then the fucking bounty hunters would show up. I wish I was joking. They popped into my life so many times that I started to think we were friends. They were the shadiest people I knew. They were literally cooking meth on these road trips. It was bad. But they'd pick me up and then drop me off a thousand miles away with "mommy" dearest or at one of her work places (not at my request and I promise, that was not my intended destination nor did I give them the addresses, in fact it was the first time I'd been to one of them).

This is the kicker... I met a guy with them. He owed them a pretty big debt for things I'll discuss when he finally drops dead. They sat there and made a deal with him, in front of me, to drop the debt (it was at least 10 grand) plus give him a few more grand - to babysit me. I don't think bounty hunters would randomly pay a guy that much unless they were getting paid even more for the job. I also don't think the meth was bringing in quite that much profit, but I'm no meth mathematician.

...I was 18 or so at this point. I think I had just turned 18. I wasn't financially stable, I was on the run, and due to that and a few other things, I was getting accustomed to feeling like there was no escape. So, I pushed that entire conversation right the fuck out of my head, and I stayed with him, as my boyfriend, for over a year.

Life, and hell, continued in the same predictable pattern from there other than my slowly dragging myself up by the bootstraps in the hours I wasn't being used to work for free.

To be honest, I didn't think there was a way out. There are days I still question it when I'm tugging at the bullshit paperwork, trying to sort the last thing, and it's not budging.

I didn't officially say fuck you and walk out for good until about five years ago. I had to at that point. I was going to die. There is a lot I can - and did - put up with, we get comfortable with the familiar and to me that life was all I had known. I put up with a lot more than any person could, and some of it did put my life in danger, but it was acute danger (i.e. it eventually passed) or it was just somewhat risking my life long-term but I couldn't see my own mortality quite yet.

But six years ago, my life was slipping away due to things I couldn't prevent in that kind of situation. I was so pale that I looked like a China doll.

That's when I realized, there was no care. It may have been what I knew and was familiar with, but no one gave a fuck if I was going to die and I was being methodically pushed in that direction. That broke the chain for me.

So, instead of traveling to the other side of the country, instead of traveling to another English speaking country on assignment...I got on a plane, left the English speaking world, and never fucking looked back.

And you want to know what? Despite the difficulties in adjusting (and communicating), within a few months my health began to improve. My exhaustion started to fade. My finances blossomed. My head cleared. And for the first time, I began to actually enjoy life instead of just faking it.

But I'm still living on this planet we all share, so there are days I wonder, especially when the bureaucrats fight back instead of helping. The right to seek one's identity is in all of their law books. And yet they vehemently fight me on it and refuse to even look.

So, am I dealing with lazy fuckwads, or am I still trapped? Something to contemplate on occasion.

I'm still recovering from it all. I will be for a long, long time. But, each day is generally a little better and I've gotten to a point where it feels like I'm almost allowed to exist as me, an actual human, rather than just being an empty shell of a ghost with a bullshit story to cover up whatever task I was sent on.

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Unfortunately, I think that's what they're headed for.

Is maintaining wealth and sustainability of resources an ideology? (re the old school behind the curtain dwellers. Don't get distracted by the word sustainability, it's not quite the same context as when the media, politicians, and university professors use it)

What about hoarding it and playing a game of who can have the most? (re the current disaster, brought to you by a generation of politicians and their handlers now in their 70s who still won't freaking quit)

At the end of the day, I don't know what any believe in other than knocking down others (in some cases) and keeping or improving their status (almost all cases).

You know the rumors around S&B and how a disproportionate amount of presidential candidates came from there, sometimes running on both tickets? I've seen it in person, their grooming potential candidates (fun fact, while not a big "horse" for the races, Bernie did show up there at least one time in the late 80s or early 90s). They went with anyone and everyone who had the potential to become a candidate. It was nearly a full-time job just to keep all those potential candidates on the hook.

To some it's life, to some tradition, to some a giant rush and a game.

But other motivation? What they want to see society blossom into other than a money maker? I don't know.

Just think of it this way, if Trump doesn't make your economy profitable enough for them to all bleed dry, then they're going to sell the land out from under you as already planned. Probably both. It's all money. At least he's apparently trying to do it the ethical way.

I used to sit there contemplating what drove the one I was stuck with. The only thing I came up with was sabotage. She genuinely loved to sabotage anyone, everyone, anything, any country...it didn't matter. I never found the one thing she wouldn't sabotage, thus I never found what she cherishes in life, if it even exists.

She didn't just sabotage society, she sabotaged everything, from the top to the bottom. She wanted it all torn down. Someone really pissed off that bitch.

Kind of off topic, but every time I talk about the US in the 90s, I can almost taste the Snapple.