How quickly we forget

OP, could you please flesh out some details? This will help in getting a picture of what you're conveying and should also make your troll even more paranoid.

You are saying you are Argentinian who was a child during the period called "the dirty war"? I'm not very educated about what went on, only that there were brutal military dictatorships in Argentina and Chile. Were those concurrent? I know that those who resisted were arrested, tortured, killed and about the "disappeared".

Are you saying that you and mother were put in a camp or prison and, from there, you taken from her and given to conspirators of the junta who emigrated to the US?

What part of Argentina are you from and to where you dragged in the US? As for Yale, was that a case of your kidnappers being employed there so you were dragged along (not as a student)?

What were the professions of your kidnappers and where do they reside?

lol

I'm not a white knight. I'm a T-Rex.

What are you so afraid of in this thread? You're attacking the OP and contradict what she's said - even claiming to know what her kidnapper did or did not say to her when she was a child - which would require that you know her, intimately.

BTW, if you think your personality disordered attempts at manipulation and intimidation are going to work here, you would be wrong. Got that, bitch?

I’m not reading that book. How quickly we forget what?

I don't know her and she doesn't know me. You, however, jumped into this thread making statements about what was not said to her during her childhood. What a strange assertion for a stranger to make about any other stranger on the internet. How the hell would YOU know what happened in this person's childhood and why are you so motivated to claim what some stranger is saying is all a lie?

Worlds smallest violin . Just for you op .

don't forget that gestapo mueller was a soviet spy since at least 1942.

oooo, I'm skeered.





I haven't said I believe anything. I'm trying to get further details about the story. The OP said something about what her (alleged) kidnapper said to her, as a child, and you claim to know it's not true. You have no basis for your claim. It's as simple as that. That begs the question as to why you're so paranoid and triggered.

You obviously have issues. Perhaps you should take them to a specialist. You seemingly make no sense.

This is going to set off the "you're a role player" and "you're insane" brigades, in unison, (I promise, I'm not), but I'll give you the timeline straight without the usual paint jobs and playing dumb to obscure the "triggery" details. Hold onto your seat. This is going to be a bumpy ride.


I can't remember the first three years of my life, so infancy, birth - those aren't a part of my story. But I can tell you what I remember from the point that my memory began.

I was in the babies and mother's section of a prison in Buenos Aires, Argentina around 1980.

I don't know if the woman I shared a room with was my mother. There was some turnover due to suicides, death, and depression. Not all of the mothers were biological mothers. Some stepped in to fill in the roll in exchange for nicer accommodations (by prison standards). My mother was always so nice to me that I never had the courage or ask her if she was my real mom. I can only assume she was. I've also had geneticists compare old pictures of her against my own to look for similar traits, and they believe we are most likely very much related.

There was also a woman from the United States down there. She had various work hats over the years, most DoD, Cointelpro, and research related. Her (now ex) husband, according to her, was CIA.

She was down there recruiting. That's always been a big part of what she does. She recruits for research purposes, and I believe also as a recruiter for governmental/contractor work as well. She was recruiting heavily from political prisoners in those years. She took at least six of the prisoners (all in their 20s or so at the time) to the US with her. She also took me.

The government down there had been adopting out the children to other people in government (mostly locally) to make sure we were raised to be different than our parents (the genocides were as much over political beliefs as they were over ethnicity). It's not actually surprising that they were willing to give me to an ally in another government.

She went back to Yale (after a few years off) because that is where her DoD funded research was being run out of. It's where much of her history was. She had attended there before earning her government/contractor positions.

I went along with her.

She was involved in political circles there. She was involved in the secret societies (it was Yale, get over it). She enjoyed sabotaging anyone who got in the way of her projects or herself. She became some sort of middle management in charge of checking in on the various DoD funded research projects going on around campus. She was also still very much involved in Cointel.

If you want to know how much Cointel and research cross, I can tell you because of my very unfortunate luck...

She exploited everyone around her, but because I was so at-hand and easy, I was exploited more frequently and thoroughly than most. That means I ended up with access to the guidelines for research in those circumstances.

It happened when she was running a scam to collect an extra paycheck in her field, under my name. I was called in to learn the guidelines I was supposed to follow in the work. I sat down and went through several hundred pages of the manual before she took over all of the paperwork, including collecting the earnings.

The manual breaks down to this - if you are a researcher in the agency, you are an agent first. You tow the company line, you keep all of the secrecy, you never expose what it going on. And then, and only then, are you a scientist, if you can manage to get your work done beneath those iron guidelines.

And those are the bones on which this life sits.

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One just has to wonder as to just why you post this dungasal stuff on here. I really has to posit you should write a book as you seem to have so many memories you impose on here. I do think most of us older folk on here would support you if you cared to try write a book.

I do however take issue with you as you say you were abused over time. Me being somewhat of older folk I have to tell you. We older folk were all abused in some fashion or other so I would only ush the though of you should grow ta fook up as some on here are tired of yer whining...

Grow ta fook up mucker as we have all had problems with growing up...

Oh well if any of you are forgetting that shit then you’re retarded and probably have drain bamage. Thanks for answering my question though.

Link?

Tldr

Link me fookin dick is always whinning of how she was cheated...

Tell the real story, you don't need no fookin link...

Be honest, tell it as it is or just fook off...

I just wrote you a book of a response a few posts up so you better read it or you owe me new keys for my keyboard.

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The world you see all around you is the result of experiments performed on unsuspecting victims for 1000's of years.

This seems to be the truth.
It matches things I've seen before.

People who have only seen the white-bread world will probably see this as role-playing.


Completely off subject, did you guys know that polio is coming back due to some vaccines in some 3rd world countries being made with live polio disease instead of dead polio virus?

Heck of a coincidence, isn't it?

To most of you guys, Nazis are some far-fetched boogieman that only show up in movies.

To me, it was an elderly couple living out their days on an island. The IDF was pretty ruthless about them, so I kept quiet. That old guy was FASCINATING. He would not come out and admit his past, but it was obvious. I talked with him for four hours.

I believe Op.

Forgetting is bad, forgiving is good. Do not presume that you would have acted differently were you in the shoes of your perceived tormentors.

Weak story brah, how about some actual deets.
Or are you not at that level on the bullshit posting team?

Researchers who have whored themselves for govt grants and paychecks are a dime a dozen so no surprise about anything you've said. Same for illegal and unethical experiments on the unsuspecting.

Were you raised in and around New Haven, OP?

Were is you kidnapper originally from?

Have you ever thought of suing her? Were fraudulent adoption papers drawn up?

Have you located any family in Argentina?

When you said the genocide was as much political as over ethnicity, I'd been under the impression that it was purely ideological and those who resisted the junta were all targets.

This evil bitch who kidnapped you is so typical of the filth that operates abroad on behalf of the United States. They are the absolute worst of the American population. Be they CIA, State Dept, DoD, NED, or any of the rest of the alphabets, they all feel entitled to do whatever the fuck they want to anyone and they hide behind the general cloak of promoting "democracy" and "US interests".

TlvmmCpoft your mission in life, or 'Life's Calling', is to speak, testify, educate, scream where necessary to the roof tops to expose the evil and how the evil acts are achieved.

Have you given any thought to either a podcast or a written book on everything you know?

I think a live podcast show would be best, others need to hear your story.

In life when we see injustice it is our Moral obligation to do something, say something, speak out about the evils of the injustice. Those who see injustice and sit idol are GUILTY of the very injustice that they will say that they only witnessed. Witnessed and did nothing, thus becoming complicit in an evil deed.

You are either For or Against a thing, fence sitting when evil is afoot is being for a thing.

:2 cent:

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The fact that you were in the care of one of those monsters for all those years only strengthens my claim that you are an mk/sra victim.

Your early memories are likely falsehoods. I didn't mean the other thread about your think-tank at yale, I meant this one. Sorry for the confusion.

The reason they would implant such memories is so that you have a "cover story" aligning with one or more lies in the history books about what transpired in South America in that time. They likely stole many children and gave them very similar memories to back up the mainstream story sold to the public. Given the time period, those kids probably doubled as testing to perfect the mk program.

In fact, I heard a very similar story told in an episode of "locked up abroad." From a mother's perspective, her child was taken and she had yet to track it down at the time of filming.

That was my response to the idiot statement made by some AC ("gestapo mueller was a soviet spy" in 1942).

Yep to New Haven.

When I was released from Argentina, I was given falsified documents. If I still had those, I could go to the Argentine government and request to have my identity returned to me.

Unfortunately, the documents they gave were not good enough for a child being passed off as white American. When I was three years old, my new grandmother paid a woman who worked in the vital statistics office over $1000 for a new birth certificate for me.

The birth certificate is perfect in every way except that it is filed in the 1980 or 1981 records book. I was born 3 or 4 years before that according to the document. This is a US records office. They don't get more than a month behind in filing.

Almost every time I went to request a copy, they couldn't locate it because it was filed in the wrong year for my birth. It was filed in the year I came to the United States.

But, it passes (once I managed to wrangle a copy out of the hands of the vital stats office). I have been a US citizen on the books for nearly 40 years and the government will back that up 100%.

Is it real? No. Is it legitimate? No. Does the government accept it? Yes, they do and will, because it is so much easier than sorting out the reality of it. It is easier than admitting that someone on their dime and time was down there involved in a war crime and illegally adopting a war baby. I can't win against them. I am one person against two governments.

I haven't gotten very far in my search into Argentina. There are archives that may provide answers (there weren't very many girls my age in the prison at that time - most were infants), but I am not allowed access to the archives. I have my suspicions, but no way to confirm without access or rights.

As for the genocide, they had four previous genocides in that century alone. Argentina is very very much about staying as ethnically cleansed as possible. The Dirty War was over political beliefs, but the Jewish people say they were being unfairly targeted in it, and I have no particular reason to think they are lying, considering Argentina's long history of genocides.

I know :)

Children of the Dirty War
Argentina’s stolen orphans

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Most were already old when I was young (the one in my adoptive family was already deceased by then), but I spent a little time around an Operation Paperclip researcher in the United States.

He had come from Germany and never really fully adapted. He was morose and had the most amazing chocolate imported from his country. He didn't talk much, but his mood matched mine and the chocolate was divine. I'd always visit him when I was stuck wandering the halls near his office. I think he lost as much as I did when coming to the US. There's a lot to lose in war.