How quickly we forget

You either have a very eventful life or auffer from walter mitty syndrome. Cia spy, satanic abuse child victim, persecuted juue.....

This is going to set off the "you're a role player" and "you're insane" brigades, in unison, (I promise, I'm not), but I'll give you the timeline straight without the usual paint jobs and playing dumb to obscure the "triggery" details. Hold onto your seat. This is going to be a bumpy ride.


I can't remember the first three years of my life, so infancy, birth - those aren't a part of my story. But I can tell you what I remember from the point that my memory began.

I was in the babies and mother's section of a prison in Buenos Aires, Argentina around 1980.

I don't know if the woman I shared a room with was my mother. There was some turnover due to suicides, death, and depression. Not all of the mothers were biological mothers. Some stepped in to fill in the roll in exchange for nicer accommodations (by prison standards). My mother was always so nice to me that I never had the courage or ask her if she was my real mom. I can only assume she was. I've also had geneticists compare old pictures of her against my own to look for similar traits, and they believe we are most likely very much related.

There was a woman from the United States down there. She had various work hats over the years, most DoD, Cointelpro, and research related. Her (now ex) husband, according to her, was CIA.

She was down there recruiting. That's always been a big part of what she does. She recruits for research purposes, and I believe also as a recruiter for governmental/contractor work as well. She was recruiting heavily from political prisoners in those years. She took at least six of the prisoners (all in their 20s or so at the time) to the US with her. She also took me.

The government down there had been adopting out the children to other people in government (mostly locally) to make sure we were raised to be different than our parents (the genocides were as much over political beliefs as they were over ethnicity). It's not actually surprising that they were willing to give me to an ally in another government.

She went back to Yale (after a few years off) because that is where her DoD funded research was being run out of. It's where much of her history was. She had attended there before earning her government/contractor positions.

I went along with her.

She was involved in political circles there. She was involved in the secret societies (it was Yale, get over it). She enjoyed sabotaging anyone who got in the way of her projects or herself. She became some sort of middle management in charge of checking in on the various DoD funded research projects going on around campus. She was also still very much involved in Cointel.

If you want to know how much Cointel and research cross, I can tell you because of my very unfortunate luck...

She exploited everyone around her, but because I was so at-hand and easy, I was exploited more frequently and thoroughly than most. That means I ended up with access to the guidelines for research in those circumstances.

It happened when she was running a scam to collect an extra paycheck in her field, under my name. I was called in to learn the guidelines I was supposed to follow in the work. I sat down and went through several hundred pages of the manual before she took over all of the paperwork, including collecting the earnings.

The manual breaks down to this - if you are a researcher in the agency, you are an agent first. You tow the company line, you keep all of the secrecy, you never expose what it going on. And then, and only then, are you a scientist, if you can manage to get your work done beneath those iron guidelines.

And those are the bones on which this life sits.

Two one stars? If someone else's story hurts your ego that much, you're kinda a pathetic human.

Researchers who have whored themselves for govt grants and paychecks are a dime a dozen so no surprise about anything you've said. Same for illegal and unethical experiments on the unsuspecting.

Were you raised in and around New Haven, OP?

Were is you kidnapper originally from?

Have you ever thought of suing her? Were fraudulent adoption papers drawn up?

Have you located any family in Argentina?

When you said the genocide was as much political as over ethnicity, I'd been under the impression that it was purely ideological and those who resisted the junta were all targets.

This evil bitch who kidnapped you is so typical of the filth that operates abroad on behalf of the United States. They are the absolute worst of the American population. Be they CIA, State Dept, DoD, NED, or any of the rest of the alphabets, they all feel entitled to do whatever the fuck they want to anyone and they hide behind the general cloak of promoting "democracy" and "US interests".

Children of the Dirty War
Argentina’s stolen orphans

[link to www.newyorker.com (secure)]

Yep to New Haven.

When I was released from Argentina, I was given falsified documents. If I still had those, I could go to the Argentine government and request to have my identity returned to me.

Unfortunately, the documents they gave were not good enough for a child being passed off as white American. When I was three years old, my new grandmother paid a woman who worked in the vital statistics office over $1000 for a new birth certificate for me.

The birth certificate is perfect in every way except that it is filed in the 1980 or 1981 records book. I was born 3 or 4 years before that according to the document. This is a US records office. They don't get more than a month behind in filing.

Almost every time I went to request a copy, they couldn't locate it because it was filed in the wrong year for my birth. It was filed in the year I came to the United States.

But, it passes (once I managed to wrangle a copy out of the hands of the vital stats office). I have been a US citizen on the books for nearly 40 years and the government will back that up 100%.

Is it real? No. Is it legitimate? No. Does the government accept it? Yes, they do and will, because it is so much easier than sorting out the reality of it. It is easier than admitting that someone on their dime and time was down there involved in a war crime and illegally adopting a war baby. I can't win against them. I am one person against two governments.

I haven't gotten very far in my search into Argentina. There are archives that may provide answers (there weren't very many girls my age in the prison at that time - most were infants), but I am not allowed access to the archives. I have my suspicions, but no way to confirm without access or rights.

As for the genocide, they had four previous genocides in that century alone. Argentina is very very much about staying as ethnically cleansed as possible. The Dirty War was over political beliefs, but the Jewish people say they were being unfairly targeted in it, and I have no particular reason to think they are lying, considering Argentina's long history of genocides.

Meh. The Abuelas organization. They're only looking for the missing children who are still within the country. The government there has informed me that I need to sue the organization for the right to seek my identity. It's a mess. I've been trying to work with them for a decade and gotten literally nowhere, not even a foot in the door, not even allowed to submit DNA (for which I've offered to pay ten times over). They block at every path.

My sweetest memories are from that godforsaken country, but talking to those self-righteous prejudice useless assholes will make me homicidal if I have to try again.

Do I sue them for the government? Maybe. But such fucking drama. Jesus. They're worse than a cheerleaders versus nerds movie when it comes to the drama.

I think I was actually better emotionally before trying to deal with their circus insanity. Before them, I still had some hope for humanity.

I'm not suggesting you try to sue either the Argentine of US govts but the woman who kidnapped you. Whatever papers have been falsified, your DNA proves you aren't related and the kidnapper would have to explain, in depositions and court, how she obtained you. Then the easily falsified docs get shot down and you win.

If more )ews were targeted (which I find highly suspect as they always make it about them) it would probably be due to their being communists. In these extremist systems, it's usually commies vs fascists (and they are really so much alike). The grandmothers and other families who raised hell about the disappeared did not strike me as Jewish but I don't know.

Do you know your own ethnicity? Are you Jewish? I know Argentina is very European in it's roots with lots of Swiss, Italian and German. I think it's also Argentina where that crazy Nazi cult colony was found.

C'mon owl, whydya delete my last post?

Suing a woman who regularly blackmails and pulls favors? Never mind that she has a position in government and I'm a civilian. I'm not even sure what court that would be in. Civil? Criminal? International? God knows I'm not going to the US to do it in the middle of her territory. I barely got out of that last time, and it was not with my health.

Who knows about the Jewish. I agree that they cry more loudly than everyone else, but even a whiny clock is right twice a day.

As for my DNA, I've run it through everything out there.
I am - very roughly, because the science has not caught up yet - some version of:

Spanish, Norwegian, Iranian Jewish.
or
Spanish, Turkish, Russian.
or
Maltese, Turkish, Russian.
or
Spanish, Norwegian, Moroccan.

Essentially 3 of my family lines are European and 1 is from Russia or the Middle East.

C'mon owl, whydya delete my last post?