What makes people untrustworthy?

My mother in law stated is was an act of love when she had sex with her sons, it was a family tradition. Yes things become much more clear when we know the truth of what we are dealing with, but often we discover the truth way too late.

Even the Amish and Mennonite have some born bad apples. The communal strict laws and order enforce behavior more than out side of the communities. It is not a personal morality trait of choice but by force.

I have to agree, in many cases some kind of brain malfunction.
We need to find a cure and treatment for the criminal mind.
Often a very bad criminal will come from a good family without explanation as to way they turned out that way.
Children taught to be violent, lie and steal is another kind of problem.

Love. When are you going to start giving it?

Oppressive = living a lie.

I wish love was the answer but it is not. For many of these kinds, the more you give the more they take, it makes you a patsy.

I have tried it, but they don’t appreciate love and kindness.

Every sentient being carries the inate capacity for deception as a basic survival instinct. You use deception in some form 100 times a day amongst humans just trying to be 'nice' to everybody. Your motives and personal preferences are irrelevant to the question of whether or not you can mislead, obfuscate, obscure, divert, distract, soften, downplay, exaggerate, patronize, flatter, becloud or befog when you think you have a good reason for it.

I've always thought that too, they are born this way, not made or victims of their environment. It is sad, that's why I actually feel bad for them. If there is a God then he would know it's a birth defect and that would really piss believers off I think.

Last Edited by By Owner Req on 10/27/2019 03:45 PM

I'm sorry. That was kind of over the top & rude wasn't it?

I was mad about something else, and reached the snapping point when I happened to be reading your pretty innocuous post, but definitely not because of your post, though I do disagree with it still.

[Maybe that bread picture though - trying to be gluten-free ovah heah ]

There.
Now it's been established I have no excuse , you nevertheless excuse my random, rudderless rudeness -without-a- real- reason, right?

When I ask someone, "hey how are you doing today?"

They look upset yet, say "I'm doing well."

I believe them initially.
Why would they lie?


Then I learn later that day that this person was really poor and not doing well.

I now know they lied to me and are therefore untrustworthy.

Seriously?

they probably just don't trust your advice or don't see you as someone they care to share information with.

White lies are different from yes I will help you on moving day and they never show up.

Everybody will excuse it just because you wrote this so well.

There is no "force" involved. Nor is there anything "oppressive" about their lifestyles. In fact, when Amish/Mennonite young people come of age, they are sent out to live amongst the "English" (i.e. the ordinary people from outside their community). If they choose to abandon their community, they are free to go. Nearly all choose to stay.

They are kind, warm people with gentle souls. The real oppression is the collective cruelty & hatred & nastiness of the world from outside their community. I feel humbled whenever I'm in their presence, & I've even gone to one of their churches on a few occasions, stayed in one of their homes for several days after being snowed in during a blizzard, & broke bread with them. There are no finer people on this Earth.

LOL

Yeah, maybe thas it..?

So, both deception, both a lie from where I'm standing.

Could you please explain to me how one

lie is different from the other lie?

No, not seriously.
It's metaphorical.
I'm a liar.

Bring related seems to do the trick in my end of the world.

Is it pathological?

Metaphorical was another lie.

It was really sarcasm.

Well, at least you just admitted that you’re a liar, and that’s a big step!

Congratulations!

Laughing out loud!

Yes. Thank you for your support ;)

You’re very welcome!

Selfishness, the seed of discontentment.

Addictions, for one. Alcoholics, drug addicts - all acquire the same personality type, self centred, lying, conniving, unreliable, untrustworthy - even malicious, as they try to bolster their ego by taking you down.

Aka the comefrom

Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting and can manifest as shame dumping.

I would not go shopping with someone and tell them a dress that is unbecoming on them is the one to buy.

Another thing, you are cutting others down on the internet. If a person is a psychopath please to not stay with them and hide when you leave, I do care if some one live with a true psychopath, or sociopath, it not health at all.

Otherwise, families who are close don't have as much differences usually, no one is better and anyone else. There is a problem when people are to trusting in who they think is not telling the truth because they have been told it over and over again by stranger on TV or else where. I try to check from evidence of real documents. All can either let you know if the person is not being exactly truthful or using terms that can be interpreted different, some people do this and have for years in all kinds of professions.

It best to talk about fixing regular relationships with family. They can be you back up and sometimes if possible you can have better relationship with them. Know yourself first no one perfect, except The Lord God no man is perfect except Jesus Or lord, that it, no one is perfect and they may think you are the problem while you think it them, and you never talk honest with them. Of course I not part of anyone's family, except my own. I know they can talk behind my back and do, I let it all go, it not important to me because I am not perfect, I love them, I know them, they do not mean half of the things they say. And if they did it no skin off my nose it theirs to carry.

I suppose it's a polite way of saying stfu as opposed to intentionally misleading you for personal gain. One is I don't want to talk to you and the other is trying to extort stuff out of you.

Yep!

They project themselves ... they accuse others and play the victim ... so typical!