Salvation, Faith and other personal teaching

I will get to this in a bit.. SLOW morning watching the snow fall.. well thats not the reason... just had a list of to dos and really needed a long soak in the tub....

I will start with the salvation of this world first... for the topic has many fronts.

For whatever your reasons or understandings.. some of you do KNOW you are "saved" and we will go over that too...

but let me make a quick statement as I listen to Trump drone on...

To be saved.. means to have made the choice to trying on the life eternal..... its yours unless you reject it... back in a bit.

feel free to share stories of your real God experiences here... for stories from the heart to those who hear them are PROOF... I belong to a little church full of heart felt stories and from time to time pastor encourages the telling of them.

People by their OWN stories... you see..... KNOW they had celestial help no matter how they label it. I have a LOT myself.. but I am not going to air them here...

:hugs 1:

Ok I am back and I may just go with the flow use some structure in between the times of flow.. but actually when I do this sort of work.. I am always in the flow. .

Look at the message that this linky.. Creator writing which was yesterday. I can make beautiful use of this one in this thread. ENJOY.


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I Can't

Two of the most destructive words anyone can utter; “I can’t”.

“I can’t” effectively stops the growth/learning process.

“I can’t” denies The Universe the opportunity to give you the gifts you have been asking for.

“I can’t” gives away personal responsibility.

Take every “I can’t” in your life and change it! (Smiling) You have the power, the will and the drive. You can! ~ Creator


I will post this to make sure it isn't lost ... and then come back.

OK back.

Salvation is hugely related to this.. Salvation is of your soul being.

Now consider the idfference between the animal which lives by its instincts ... Does it say I can or I can't? Well any on you watching a cat or dog being nervous about walking up or down the stairs.. usually a baby...or even your own human babies..

What would if your child infact said I can't to creeping and standing up and walking? THAT child SAID.... I CAN... and all of you have had children which needed support in making that choice.... and some who just plowed right thru.

How many of you later were not sure of swimming in a pool or riding your bike and had to muster up a BIG I CAN! Well that comes from FAITH...that you CAN. How many of you regret perhaps saying I Can't to some things in your life.. well I probably have some of those over my 72 years. Deep sea diving was one of them.. right off... and some good reasons for that.. because.. will I shall share the why on that later...

But much of the time its the lack of faith and INNER TRUST in the Father.. perhaps some don't yet comprehend that inner trust..

Babies have to trust their parents sometimes... in a sense they are trusting "God" because God is within YOU...

Now this salvation thing... its a CHOICE beloveds and made because YOU CAN THINK and solve problems . And some will choose salvation and some will not. THINK CHOICE.... that is what makes you made in the image of God.. the ability to make conscious choices...

YOUR FAITH IS A CONSCIOUS CHOICE.. Once you stand and say I CAN... I CAN CHOOSE the life Eternal... And you do that because FAITH is something MORE that this material world alone.. YOU CHOOSE ETERNITY... YOU SAY YES I CAN. Faith comes a bit before Choosing eternity in fact... The choosing happens because of YOUR FAITH.

And In making that choice.. You have WON YOUR SALVATION. For salvation requires the ability to make choices to start with. Make a personal list perhaps of your choices that were more important... Choosing which flavor of pizza is not one of those..

HUMANS HAVE A MIND THAT HAS WILL... That is how you are in fact made in the IMAGE OF THE FATHER.. not just God.. the FATHER.. This is an important concept to comprehend... its not your suit of meat you wear.... YOU HAVE GOD GIVEN MIND and a nice meat suit with a brain... it is your temple as you move on this world thru the choices you make for yourself...

Not all choices will bear fruit of course.. excuse me.. even the bad ones bear fruit... IF YOU INTROSPECT WHY THEY DID NOT WORK.... In that... you develop your God Given mind MORE.... and you cannot grow without making errors and then studying those errors...

Your salvation is YOUR CHOICE TO BECOME ONE OF FAITH... and take on eternity. It is that simple... :hugs 1:

If you made a choice that brought you into faith... share it here. We did that in the little church I attend awhile back and the stories were nothing short of stunning.


It was on a day the pastor was not in attendance and we had a do it ourselves service.

Not getting any vibe (witness) from the OP that they have Experienced what they're conjecturing of here...


If you would write (witness) to others about Relationship With God; you ought to have one. St. Paul wrote the same thing in 2nd Tim 2:6 where he advises Timothy that those who would Preach/Teach/Minister "Ought First BE Partakers Of The Fruits"; meaning, Born-Again.


What does "Salvation" actually mean to the Christian who can't Take Action and manifest their heart Unto God???

Christ Witnesses in John 3:7 "...Ye MUST Be Born-Again!" and in John 14:6 "...no man Cometh Unto The Father But BY ME!"


So... There's Action Required...



Jesus Brought The Gospel and HE Died on the cross... ALL To Enable us to Come Unto The Father and Live In, With, and Through HIM... But... IT don't just happen...


I was Given To KNOW By God The Holy Spirit, that "No one who ever Loved Christ Jesus with a True heart will be lost or condemned." That's pretty much what "salvation" is... Not being lost or condemned.....


Much more to Christ and Christianity than NOT being lost or condemned though... If you are Born-Again, you KNOW...



If you're Not Born-Again, well.... You haven't Been Given "A New Heart Of Father's Flesh"... HE Hasn't "Put MY Spirit Within You", and You haven't Been Enabled To KNOW and DO Father's Will or "Keep My Statutes and Do MY Judgments". (see Ezekiel 36:26-27)


These ARE The Final Moments....
IF you would Be HIS, Time To Tell HIM So...


Lots of Witness from Christ Jesus that ONLY Those who're Born-Again will Abide With HIM and The Father.


The Blessings Christ Jesus Conveyed Unto Us via the cross are what Enable Us To Come Unto The Father, to Come Into HIS Presence and surrender our all Unto HIM.

If we don't Take Action, making our Leap Of Faith, it is as James said... Faith w/o works is dead!

It takes Trusting God Fully with all you are and all you ever will be to BE HIS...

Think otherwise? Such is the betrayal of your carnal-heart and conjectured expectations.


The Matt 7:22 Christians who were Rejected had "Done Miracles, Cast-Out demons, and Prophesied In HIS Name"... But they never Came Unto The Father to Be Born-Again. Jesus Tells them in verse 23: "Depart from ME, you who work iniquity: I KNOW YOU NOT!"

It's all there.... In Matt 7:21-23, Luke 13:22-28, Matt 22:1-14, and Rev 3:13-18


Might recall that Jesus Told the 800+ Friends and Disciples who saw HIS Ascension, to "Await The Comforter" in the Upper Room... When The Holy Spirit did finally arrive, only about 150 of the 800+ were there....

Such is the treachery of your free-will and carnal-heart...
ONLY The Father Can Deliver Us from our carnality.

If you Truly Love HIM, Time to Tell HIM So!


Maranatha!!!

This thread is not about my witness and I said that above.. I have posted a LOT on GLP about my own witness before.

Only you can deliver yourself .. but the FATHER will HELP YOU ALONG THE WAY. HE LIVES WITHIN YOU after all...

The comforter is not the Holy Spirit.. You divine Father fragment is. The comforter is actually a copy of the MIND of Christ Jesus that was bestowed.. it is NOT 3rd person Trinity... and its called the SPIRIT OF TRUTH. It is in fact first and 2nd person Trinity in origin. Christ Jesus is the SON OF THE FATHER and the ETERNAL SON...

The HOLY SPIRIT is 3rd person Trinity... and the source of all mind.. and you are of the holy spirit if you are alive to start with... So are the frogs. The HOLY Spirit became present on this world when it was seeded with LIFE 550 million years ago. IT IS NOT NEW.

because it is a COPY of his mind/Spirit... and thus he is always present on this world as the Spirit of TRUTH... It was poured out on ALL FLESH... and because its always there.. ALL GOD SEEKING FLESH which is actually God seeking mind can access the TRUTH IN IT.

I want your story of how you found Faith beloved ... That was my invitation... Its not here. ... YOU are the one who has NOT shared the EXPERIENCE that brought you to faith... EVERY ONE and I know this is Truth.. comes to Faith by some event .

I wish to remind you all I have been present on this forum most of the time for 10 years now..... Some of you do not know of me because you are new here I assume anyway.

I am from Paradise... and I have know the Father for millions and millions of years as we measure them on earth. I have 6 lives on this planet.. starting around 400 years ago.. and I am here to directly serce Christ Jesus first as teaching and then directly in his millennial reign.. which started FEB 5th of this year... we are just getting thru the final closure before the big day of judgement... the magnetic reversal. That said many are already judged.. and have lost their Father Fragment and such and this is the end of their existence.. As I have covered.. during the reversal.. when the planet stands still in it orbit and does not revolve for a period of time.. all that is NOT of God.. ANYTHING.. comes off. This will include some animals too. and some plants.. but mostly the invisible dark shits and the living that are in fact the walking dead.. having nothing of God.

Enough of this reminder or for those who never checked my stuff.. I am not going to spend this thread dwelling on that.

I am a TRINITIZED MIghty Messenger to those who read the UB. My original being is of HUMAN KIND on a world in Nebadon. I have taken the journey to Paradise... and am in Trinity Service to the Father .. The Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit...

Since I have taken that journey.. which Christ Jesus spoke of on the Cross to one of those hung with him.. he said someday that one would was repentant... was that some day he would sup on Paradise with that man.. I have supped On Paradise... it takes a very long time to get there... I know therefore of what I speak. Been there.. done that.. and here in personal service to Christ Jesus... during the Millennial Reign. I am thus NOT a new being who must find faith.. I have had since my first life many many millions of years ago...

I just want to be clear. I could give a few hundred experiences of mine in this life.. but that is not the point and my faith I was born with.. in terms of creating this body to serve for this mission. Paradise folks cannot walk this planet in their energy forms... you could not see us... and if we tried to be IN the meat suit.. we would fry it. We connect to the body thru a silver cord.. which is essentially a fiber optic cable. Now I will move forward with the purpose of this thread.. according to my role and guidance.

Those who can do, teach

"Those who can't do, teach" - False. Those who cannot do cannot teach. Teaching requires experience and experience is only acquired by doing. Only those who can do, can teach.

The above are my words. I learnt in my life that if you want to guide and teach then you must have the experience first. Knowledge alone is not enough. It must be augmented by experience and the only way that can happen is by making the choices you need to make to get where you're supposed to go. Experience creates wisdom and experience means the uncharted. If you know something already then it's not experience. It's just knowledge. Real experience is the willingness to dive into what's new and unknown. That's scary but it's the only way to grow and sometimes it has to be done simply on faith.

Sometimes there just is no road and you must be the trailblazer. Those that come after often forget who went first. When the road is nice and paved it's not always thought of how rough new beginnings can be. Every new beginning does not begin with a first step, as the expression goes, but with faith, then choice and then the first step, the first action. The first step is thus actually the third step.

In my life faith is paramount. My material life isn't layed out for me. It isn't planned at all. I tried that in the beginning (my 20's and 30's, I'm 42 now) and always was it not right what I thought was right so I had to learn to "let go and let God". Oh, I don't make it easy for God sometimes, I'll admit, but I still let my faith be my guide and so far it's going pretty well. I have everything I need (if not always what I want) and it's ok, not super smooth and easy but ok, there are enough bumps but I'm taken care of.

The thing is that once you begin to recognise the pattern and path your life is supposed to follow then you also find your life becoming a bit easier. When you follow your purpose and align with your soul's will for you then obstacles seem to diminish or disappear althogether. Difficulties are often your soul's, angels and guides' way to tell you - "Not this way" - especially if you do have a specific purpose for your life which is something not every has. Your life purpose is to find your purpose and then align with it. How do you know if you have? When things suddenly become smoother, easier and now and then almost serendipotous.

The path of most resistance is the path that leads away from God. The path of least resistance, even if it isn't the smoothest and fastest, is the one that leads to God. When the choice to align with the Father is made you gain the support of all Creation. Everything in Creation will move to make sure that you become what you're supposed to become. If you don't, you're on your own until you choose to do.

Life can be wonderful by choice, and life can be nasty by choice. That's free will. It's always your choice...for better or worse. God will never choose anything for you but then if He did you'd never really learn how to choose wisely, would you, as experience creates wisdom.

Remember, that's there no such thing as a right or wrong choice, just choice, a choice to experience, where that experience will take you and what you will learn from it because learning and growing is really the only thing it's all about.

:Flowers for you: WhiteFly.....

" So are the frogs"

What frogs?

Revelation 16:13

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

Lester is right, you know

all life on any world is created by the local universe HOLY SPIRIT.. 3rd person Trinity is MIND in a nut shell.

Revelations has nothing to do what I am talking about. The early seeding of life by Life CARRIERS... to worlds starts with one celled animals placed in warm bays and they evolve into multcelled plants initially... which provide as they evolve into bigger plants.. Oxygen to the atmosphere of the planet.. so then when there is enough of that.. animals including frogs begin to appear. Mind must be developed from scratch. Worlds like this initially have too much CO2 in the atmosphere... and animals cannot live on said planet until the plants enrich the atmosphere.

MIND is of the HOLY SPIRIT. And frogs have simple mind and thus the holy spirit. ditto the bacterial that make you sick or make nourishment in your intestines. tis all the HOLY SPIRIT in ACTION. The HOLY SPIRIT in that sense IS MIND IN ACTION. In every level of life.. trees.. whales... you name it. The person who saw unclean spirits simply apparently thought they Looked LIKE FROGS... has not anything to do with frogs. The DRAGON is those of the Lucifer Rebellion who are imprisoned on this world.

Did you choose to post the first real experience that brought YOU TO FAITH.. I don't see it. This is NOT a bible thread.. it is a thread on salvation and FAITH. I will carry some material on the salvation of this world as related to the Lucifer REbellion and one reason why Christ Jesus came to this planet.

If this is going to be typical.. I will removed these posts if I can do nothing with them... Your bible has tons of inaccurate material in it.. and thus in accurate material READ by peole is not a course of their Faith... Faith is a a chosen experience... and is not related to whatever religion one is raised in... How many religions are on this world? LOTS and people believe usually in whatever their culture believes.

I WANT SHARED STORIES HERE nd than includes stories by Muslims.. Buddhists... those who reject religions but have Faith free of them.

REal Stories one has experienced...and not the holy spirit told me.. confirm God. They are more powerful than the bible every was. all religions have books you know.. but usually true faith begins with a memorable experience.. sometimes that experience truly happens at the death bed of one you love and is stronger than anything they ever got from church.

THE REAL IS REAL and from experience and not thru religions necessarily at all.

REAL IS PROFOUND and never forgotten.

"Revelations has nothing to do what I am talking about."


Oh but I think it does.

No it does not. I have read it many times and there are bits of truth in it.. but frog was simply a word I chose as a type of life. Nothing more and nothing less. My guidance is not the bible at all in fact.. but I have read the whole thing.. and some parts of it many times.

John of Revelations saw images on his inner screen and perhaps during dreams.. and he did not speak English and it is not possible for Reelvations in English to be fully translated correctly and only some of what John was given is in that book.. it has lots of missing material.

this is not a bible thread... if is about FAITH and Salvation but could go further depending on the posting.

Now some of you here are old souls and star seeds from the realms of the higher heavens.. and you are born with FAITH already because you are old beings.

But most of you will explore anyway and I would also love stories here by some of you which helped enhance your Faith as you came into service on this confusing world. I have a whole bunch of those.. but again.. I am not going there unless it serves me on some experience to do so.

Faith arises always from experiences.. if you first experience was reading something in the bible that stirred your faith... you already had faith.. And you were reading the bible study and to find more support for it.

As a tiny child.. my faith was stirred by nature.. animal life I observed.. people who did good things in faith... Faith involves TRUST beloveds... and your faith will evolve.

If you want to share a story about how your faith increased.. have it here. I desire the posting of Faith in action... maybe thats a better way.. but I have known people who basically memorized everything their religion ... and cultures taught and Christians who could recite from memory lots of stuff from the bible.. but they HAD NO FAITH. Faith is not the religion you grew up in.. I suspect some challenging I have received on this and other forums prove the lack of Faith. Faith does not cause you to produce hundreds of memorized bible quotes.. It is an experience and many who go to churches and temples et all.. have no faith at all.


AGAIN BY YOUR FAITH YOU ARE SAVED.. and it matters not what planet you live on.. and what religion and culture have placed on you.

It is unique and individual to you.

Your Furry pete believe in something in your quote that is not true... All those of FAITH are only BEgotten Sons of th eFather and I do have a thread on that one. People of real faith know they are children of God... they KNOW IT.. INSIDE OF THEM.

Memorizing religious programming is not Faith. Faith is derived from the act of LIVING.

Furry Pete.. I banned your temporarily.. for you have demonstrated memorized stuff and not faith... I cannot have some of you derailing this thread. Ok...

bible quotes tossed at me are not examples of living spiritual faith. they example a mind controlled which is not free... faith is free and experienced.

I will however refer you to this link and paper in the Urantial book.

I am not copying as in posting scripture here.. please understand that.. but some must read. And you need to read and contemplate something more.. for the bible is an inferior book on the nature of cosmos and the Trinity. Many of you here will.. because of YOUR faith.. identify with this paper. You know you faith as real and living.

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The simple statement and the most complete is

By your FAITH YOU ARE SAVED.

This is true on every world and every heaven world in the far and wide CREATION. it is a state of KNOWING BY YOUR EXPERIENCE and you cannot learn it by reading. IT IS INSIDE.

Understand I will ban and remove posts by the nasty dark shits posting in it.. Ok Comprendo. this is a thread about PERSONAL FAITH. I see some are none to happy about this thread..

Dark shits do not want HUMAN BEINGS TO KNOW WHO THEY BE and the power they have... and those who grossly misuse the bible to threaten.. are not those of inner faith. Threaten me with your bible and you are gone from here.

Remember if one wants to use a bible quote of truth.... if you have the faith of a mustard Seed... you can move mountains

Those of True Faith if they wanted to join in their power could have moved that big hurricane or even removed it and I covered that... Its time to find your god given power. .

Thank you KAN DAEK

Faith is the strength and surety derived from longtime multi-life experience. That's why the oldest spirits are the most faithful. They've experienced its power many times and just KNOW that whatever happens they'll be just fine because "whatever" has already happened many times.

Experience is the only way to attain faith. Faith is not given, it is is earned by personal effort and belief. Belief is uncertainty. Faith is certainty.

Faith without works is death!

James 2:14-26 KJV

14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,

16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.

24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

This is the definition of Faith..

Maybe this list will be helpful in understanding concept..

From this paper.

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101:3.4 (1108.3) Through religious faith the soul of man reveals itself and demonstrates the potential divinity of its emerging nature by the characteristic manner in which it induces the mortal personality to react to certain trying intellectual and testing social situations. Genuine spiritual faith (true moral consciousness) is revealed in that it:

101:3.5 (1108.4) 1. Causes ethics and morals to progress despite inherent and adverse animalistic tendencies. *

101:3.6 (1108.5) 2. Produces a sublime trust in the goodness of God even in the face of bitter disappointment and crushing defeat.

101:3.7 (1108.6) 3. Generates profound courage and confidence despite natural adversity and physical calamity.

101:3.8 (1108.7) 4. Exhibits inexplicable poise and sustaining tranquillity notwithstanding baffling diseases and even acute physical suffering.

101:3.9 (1108.8) 5. Maintains a mysterious poise and composure of personality in the face of maltreatment and the rankest injustice.

101:3.10 (1108.9) 6. Maintains a divine trust in ultimate victory in spite of the cruelties of seemingly blind fate and the apparent utter indifference of natural forces to human welfare.

101:3.11 (1108.10) 7. Persists in the unswerving belief in God despite all contrary demonstrations of logic and successfully withstands all other intellectual sophistries.

101:3.12 (1108.11) 8. Continues to exhibit undaunted faith in the soul’s survival regardless of the deceptive teachings of false science and the persuasive delusions of unsound philosophy.

101:3.13 (1108.12) 9. Lives and triumphs irrespective of the crushing overload of the complex and partial civilizations of modern times.

101:3.14 (1108.13) 10. Contributes to the continued survival of altruism in spite of human selfishness, social antagonisms, industrial greeds, and political maladjustments.

101:3.15 (1108.14) 11. Steadfastly adheres to a sublime belief in universe unity and divine guidance regardless of the perplexing presence of evil and sin.

101:3.16 (1108.15) 12. Goes right on worshiping God in spite of anything and everything. Dares to declare, “Even though he slay me, yet will I serve him.”

where is your contribution to the purpose of this thread.. you didi not post a story of personal faith.

No lester was not right.. he posted corrupted bible material. and corrupted church teachings.

YOU ARE SAVE across the entire creation by your FAITH.. and not controlled religions. I asked for personal stories of Faith here not bible posts.

And certainly not the attacks I received both from bible posters and dark AC shits.

I made the UB post above to show a definition of FAITH...

Many of you have remarkable stories of person faith where you know you got celestial help. Thats all I want here at this point. But when I get in the mood I will talk about Why Jesus came here. which in a nutshell was to save the planet and its inhabitants.

Nope

By HIS faith

The faith OF Jesus Christ

Apportioned to us

His faith apportioned to us

No your faith is INTERNAL.. it is not his Faith. His faith belong to him... NOT to you. You are a son of the Father develop your own. ONLY you can grow your personality into salvation thru your faith.

He said that... He taught God and Heaven was within YOU...


You cannot apportion YOUR individual faith to another. As you see I cannot apportion faith to you in this thread.. it must spring inside of you from the eternal. you can demonstrate good works and another will not receive your apportioned faith. You can do good works without or without faith. That is behind the teachings of teaching of Jesus.. about those that pray in pubic and do good works publicly.. and brag about those works...but its all ACTING and not of faith. For many in the religious MARKETS have no faith.. they are just show off braggarts.

Lots of bragging even here on GLP. And I have run into good people who do nice things but have no knowing of the eternal within.


II asked for stories born of faith in this thread and very little of that is here.. WhiteFly did a nice job. go back and read that one.

Sd sill keep the church buildings and temples into the Millennial reign.. but they will carry the REAL and not the fairy tales.

This world is being taken out of a prison camp and back into the universe...

That is actually a good deal in that simple sentence of the salvation of this world. Man was going to blow it to dust.. or big chunks of rock like whats up in the asteroid build... the remains of another planet.

Or just a barren desert if the globe was "lucky" to be re seeded with life.. That is happening NOW to Mars whose former inhabitants who destroyed their atmosphere... destroying all life and making it barren.

Those souls that lots their meat suits in that one.. which became crispy and cooked.. were brought to earth to start over.. and many have not learned and still will char the earth given the opportunity. There was no Faith there you see... war mattered only.

sound familiar here? a repeat.

In terms of Michael of Nebadon... he came here 2000 years ago to save the growing LIFE and MIND on this world... that is a major salvation you know...

He did that that men on this world might be born into FAITH and thus a mighty race that would come to peace. That was one of the meanings of salvation I intended in this thread.

YOU the PRISONERS on this world because some developed faith have been saved to continue here.


This world will enter LIght and life and KNOW the cosmos.. rather than be extinguished totally. Those of FAITH are always resurrected /removed to safety when a world is going to destroy its self..because the God knowing Soul is eternal and can be lifted off.

A lot of us here in service are going to get that done...

Maybe some of you star seeds would like to share something.. we had some fine ones here years ago.

Those with REAL FAITH have it in their hearts.. does that help?

The OP that started and posted in this thread is a person of FAITH Thread: I'm dancing, dancing to the Lord!