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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)] read... This is my interpretation of what the Lawfare group will attempt. “Concurrence of two-thirds of the members present“ The Democrats will argue their 2020 candidates cannot spend all this time on a Senate trial…. the media will be sympathetic….. Because the constitution is ambiguous to the construct…. and intentionally differential to the size of the Senate…. the democrat approach will be to empanel a bipartisan jury of an unknown number of Senators to sit for the trial “under oath and affirmation.” There is nothing in the constitution that would stop the Senate from assembling a jury of 10 republican senators and 10 democrat senators. It would then require “two-thirds” or thirteen for a conviction. Or the jury could be 40 or (fill_in_blank). This type of a senate construct is what the left has been hinting about in their discussions. This is what Lawfare has been discussing since they successfully gained the Nixon Impeachment Roadmap during their lawsuit a few months ago. beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… ♦ That brings up the Senate trial. From a review of their signaling and positioning, it appears to me the objective of the Lawfare group, via the impeachment managers, will center around modifications to Senate Impeachment Rules and the use of a Senatorial Trial Panel. The senate rules on impeachment processes can be changed and modified [Example here from 1986]. Additionally there is nothing in the constitution that requires an established number of senators to sit or convict during the trial [Constitution, Article 1, Sec 3]: [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)] beau voir |
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User ID: 77849624  United States11/01/2019 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… At some point william barr has to either resign or grow a pair of balls and start arresting people for an attempted coup. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… people...réaction? The way to fight this is to shut the country down. Start in DC first. Then move on to DEMORAT controlled cities next. Do you realize how fast you could shut the cities down with truckers alone. All they have to do is disable their rigs on all the highways and city roads.They alone could do this in a heartbeat. No movement on highways, no movement of goods including food. See how long the scum would let this go on. beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… U.S. Constitution. Article I. Section 3. 6: “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.” If Nanzi and the Democrats have the sole power to decide the rules of impeachment in the House, then McConnell and the Republicans have the sole power to decide the rules of the trial in the Senate. If they allow for the conditions of removing POTUS from office then it won’t be Trump that is responsible for the death of the GOP that surely follows, it will be the Republican Senators. beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)] Seadoc66 says: October 31, 2019 at 8:54 pm DECLARATION OF WAR: October 31, 2019 will be recorded in America history as the day Nancy Pelosi and her gang declared war on the American people and their President. The remaining question is; What did the American people do, fight or take flight? Special Note: Any member of the Federal government (past and/or present) who supports the current coup d’ e-tat for any number of made up reasons (and/or those who are too cowardly to state their reasons) are wearing the label of ‘Traitors’ in that their actions indicate they also do not support the protections provided ‘all’ Americans via our Constitution and their very oaths of office. Rape, Pillage, Plunder; America You’ve Been Had and It’s Your Own Damn Fault! America, you had best wake up! Nancy and the rest of the swamp, globalists, progressives, establishment, oligarchy, left, etc……. are pulling out every weapon at their disposal to destroy the ‘Outsider’ and negate any/all the power left in the hands of his supporters. Unlike past political struggles, if the left and their supporters should win there is no need to return to their old deceptive ways in that all the corruption is now out in the open for all to see. The Biden’s corrupt activities are just a tiny glimpse into the big picture. In short America, if the left succeeds in negating Donald Trump the picture of America’s (and the world’s) future is clear. Feudal lords with their legions of politicians and bureaucrats will rule over a world of mere serfs! Have a nice day America, while you still can! Charles W. Lauderdale Soldier/Cop/Grunt, Retired PS 1. Character is to man what carbon is to steel. 2. A man who trims himself to suit others will soon whittle himself away! 3. An ounce of gold cannot buy an ounce of time. 4. It is far more difficult to judge one’s self than to judge others! beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)] ristvan says: October 31, 2019 at 9:41 pm Lurking Lawyer here. Lurking Lawyer here. Most importantly, it is NOTHING of substance to be concerned about. IF there had been anything in the secret Mueller grand jury testimony to use against PDJT by biased Mueller/Weissmann, it would have been. The report had almost no redactions (4%), and there was no collusion, no obstruction. No there, there. Nadler is fishing in a pond holding no fish. But is legally precedent setting so worth noodling. There are several parts. First, SCOTUS established that in a ‘criminal investigation’ of a sitting president pursuant to an official House vote to have judiciary start investigating, subpoenas are properly issued and can pierce executive privilege. US v Nixon, 1974, 418US683. The fact background is not exactly the same here because there is no longer a special counsel involved investigating PDJT (and when there was, there was no House impeachment investigation vote), but the application of this precedent is IMO surficially sound ‘on its face’ concerning Nadler’s request AFTER this morning’s vote, because there was an SC during the grand jury Mueller employed. IMO that is what we will see out of DC courts. Second, this simplistic interpretation ‘on its face’ is likely wrong, for two quite solid independent reasons. 1. Today’s resolution did NOT give Judiciary investigative power. It gave it to Schiff’s HPSCI, which did NOT originate Nadler’s subpoena. The Nadler subpoena was expressly not House authorized, nor authorized at the time it was issued. Third, the current ‘authorized inquiry’ involves Ukraine. The Mueller original scope charter was Russia. The Rosenstein second scope expansion to snare Manafort was NOT about Ukraine collusion. It was ‘related matters’ jurisdiction permitted by 28CFR600.4(b). So any Mueller grand jury testimony isn’t connected to todays ‘authorized inquiry’ and therefore should not be released on jurisdictional grounds. Translated, Nadler has neither standing nor jurisdiction. Fatal flaws. beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 05:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)] Ristvan dit: 31 octobre 2019 à 21h52 We are in unprecedented territory many ways. So the answer is SCOTUS, if it gets that far. I don’t think it will. Dems should know they have built a ‘peach doty fi’ house of cards. beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 05:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… sundance says: October 31, 2019 at 10:34 pm The appeals decision (6e) is the first signal of the DOJ position. If the DOJ lose the ‘stay’ appeal, and/or then lose the en-blanc full panel review, I doubt SCOTUS would hear or entertain an emergency injunction. The appeals court will then be verifying the Legislative impeachment authority already established by Judge Howell. beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… At some point william barr has to either resign Quoting: Jake or grow a pair of balls and start arresting people for an attempted coup. IMO< that should be the approach. Treat them as enemies of the state. DAME JUSTICE SLEEKS; it becomes obligatory for her to wake up and wake up DECLARE TOTAL AND BOOM beau voir |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76313497 United States11/01/2019 05:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… Seems like all the"dual citizens" (wink,wink) are all in on this coup together. I guess knocking down buildings in Manhattan has satisfied their Satanic blood lust for America. Look at what the have done to the cities across this country. All the same players. Where are the arrests, The DECLAS The Horowitz( another winker)report? I wonder why the Military is allowing these drooling $$$ lovers to continue this treason and sedition. |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 05:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… I still say the Senate is the Democrats (Lawfare) Ace-In-The-Hole. I don’t trust McConnell at all. Zero percent. Deep state to the core. As long as he’s there, the Senate is in the Dem’s hands. Graham is just as bad. Don’t trust them to hold the line. They won’t. They’ll let the Dem’s use the Senate, all the while wringing their hands saying beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… Seems like all the"dual citizens" (wink,wink) are all in on this coup together. I guess knocking down buildings in Manhattan has satisfied their Satanic blood lust for America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76313497 Look at what the have done to the cities across this country. All the same players. Where are the arrests, The DECLAS The Horowitz( another winker)report? I wonder why the Military is allowing these drooling $$$ lovers to continue this treason and sedition. BOOM,BOOM,BOOM! beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 02:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… Why do people say...(j.belongs to my country), if: they place silence on ...what...their conscience tells them to do and act...yes, i know ...my false guilt and egocentric laziness and that I love to keep quiet to feel myself (I love and believe in you) BUT don't bother me too much because I'm very busy Yeah, I know they kill born and over children. Yeah, I know pedophiles in all this world. Yeah, I know we kill you every,,,,moment of what I see. . . and yes, I'm YOUR WITNESS, I turn around and what I hear, yes, I'm still your ear and now. . . WHO AM I beau voir |
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(OP) User ID: 77975641 Canada11/01/2019 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… Why do people say...(j.belongs to my country), if: they place silence on ...what...their conscience tells them to do and act...yes, i know ...my false guilt and egocentric laziness and that I love to keep quiet to feel myself (I love and believe in you) Quoting: beau voir BUT don't bother me too much because I'm very busy Yeah, I know they kill born and over children. Yeah, I know pedophiles in all this world. Yeah, I know we kill you every,,,,moment of what I see. . . and yes, I'm YOUR WITNESS, I turn around and what I hear, yes, I'm still your ear and now. . . WHO AM I .QUI-SUIS-JE to offer you yet another gift of the child's reproductive gift when you kill him before and even worse when he is born WHO AM I to forgive you so much and wait for you again. . . WHO AM I TO OFFER YOU SO MUCH FORGIVENESS WITH MY PURITY OF LOVE WHO AM I TO YOU, MY CHILD. . . . . NOW PRAY WITH FRIENDS GLP beau voir |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69766872 United States11/01/2019 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… [link to theconservativetreehouse.com (secure)] Quoting: beau voir Show me an action by U.S. AG Bill Barr to change the impression the DOJ is intentionally tanking the external fight and I will change my opinion. However, so far the push-back from the DOJ has been very weak considering the stakes. [Too weak to be accidental] Spot on! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69766872 United States11/01/2019 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Newly Empowered Chairman Jerry Nadler Moves on Second Front for Impeachment Assault – HJC Moves To Enforce McGahn Subpoena… I remember Nadler, Pelosi and AOC used to have him in charge of impeachment before he screwed up by calling John Dean as a witness and losing control of the Mueller hearing. I think he's on timeout until AOC says he can come out and play again. |
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