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Terminator: Dark Fate - An HONEST review (Spoilers ahead)

 
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*Spoilers ahead*

Just saw it with my son today as he has off from school this week. 10:30am price was $5.75 so it was with it.

I was teasing him in the car on the way over there saying that the movie is supposed to be very leftist and pushing a Hispanic agenda. I said to him if the movie starts by speaking in Spanish for the first 10-15 minutes we're walking out and getting our money back. Sure enough, the movies first 10 to 15 minutes does take place in Mexico and therefore is completely in Spanish with subtitles to which he looked at me and I smiled said I was just kidding.

The pluses of the movie or anytime Linda Hamilton or Arnold Schwarzenegger are on screen and it is quite a bit.

Another great scene is when you see young John Connor get blown away by another Arnold T-800 Terminator. The CGI of Linda Hamilton looking young again, as well as Edward Furlong, hanging out in some Seaside bar down in Caracas and enter Arnold walking up the beach and literally blasting to shotgun shells into young John Connor.

If anyone had done some research on the movies, James Cameron thought he had closed the time Loop and ended it all with the ending scene of T2 were Arnold's body is lowered into the hot magma. Unfortunately, one of his Ex-Wives decided with her rights to the movie franchise to take it to the next level and to go on to make never losing amount of money in the forms of T3 through Genesis. In other words, it was supposed to be no Terminator franchise Beyond T2 and rightfully so.

As far as confusion and paradoxes on timelines go, this movie merely picks up with the future female Terminator who comes back in time to defend young Mexican girl, which intersects with Linda Hamilton's own future timeline.

Instead of there being a Skynet in that future Terminator's future, the only people who are dealing with that reality are Linda Hamilton and Arnold Schwarzenegger's characters.

The villain and killer Terminator in this movie is an amalgamation of the liquid form and of the Arnold exoskeleton form, basically two Terminators combined into one. This of course makes it twice as hard to kill and of a different nature. Part of that nature being that they or a product of Skynet, but instead, The Offspring of a failed military AI which then renames itself The Horde. 

We aren't shown or told where and when this AI develops from, but my guess is that it is the equivalent of the AI which became Skynet in the original T3: Rise of the Machines but without John Connor having a place in that particular future being that he has shown to have been killed in this one, The Horde replaces it instead and with it, the future child bearer of the hero in some other Terminator World future is in fact, this young woman we see in this movie.

From the commercial and trailers that were put out, it makes it seem as if this girl is a young teen, when in fact, she is about 25 years old and just 4 ft nothing.

Some of the action scenes were amazing and there wasn't really a feel of a female-dominated, leftist liberal agenda pushing for feminism Or Hispanic rights in this movie. It was more of a byproduct of where Linda Hamilton's character had to live in terms of being a fugitive in the US as well as the location of where Arnold t-800 Terminator form resided in the lower parts of Texas the same.

I think what's important to realize here is that this movie is very brilliantly written in terms of if you choose to analyze it or not, it makes you ask the question once again,"Are our lives preordained or do we truly have free will?"

Are there flaws within the movie and its story and plot? Always. Is it an action sci-fi movie where you need to suspend some belief? Absolutely. Is it worth seeing in the theater? For matinee price and the size of the screen and sound and trailers, surely. Did it need to be made? No.

If Cameron came out and said to everyone, "I refuse to do another Terminator movie. My vision ended with the end of T2 and Sarah and John went on to a normal life. Everything else is all bullshit." That would be fine. Does this movie end things as neatly? Unfortunately not, but, Arnold does say in this movie, "I will not be back" and I think that was more him, the actor, talking to the audience more than it was the character in the movie talkin to the other actors.

When I guess my son what he would rate the movie he said the same thing as me. On a scale of 1 to 10 between a 6 and a 7 and I agree.

The female heroine Terminator lacks a proper introduction or backstory to connect the audience with her as a person, to which she has a definite human past but no true exploration or explanation as to how she became augmented and sent back through time.

In other words, I think the movie exhausts the audience to the point of one saying who even cares anymore what happens... A sentiment which is related by one of the actors in the movie itself basically saying the same thing.

If you enjoy action and Sci-Fi movies, you will not be disappointed, again if only to enjoy the on-screen presents up Linda Hamilton kicking ass is a sixty-year-old woman, as well as Arnold the same. This is an over-the-top theatrics and a presence of where women are all of a sudden pound-for-pound stronger than men who are trained to be guards and so on, as much as seasoned veterans who use their brains and outwit there enemies who merely aren't ready or know what to expect, especially when a Terminator is tearing through them at the same time. Think of a Mexican standoff that's already gone wrong, literally.
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Re: Terminator: Dark Fate - An HONEST review (Spoilers ahead)
Simplified : if you seen the 1st terminator then you have already seen this film however this film fails stick to the original
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Simplified : if you seen the 1st terminator then you have already seen this film however this film fails stick to the original
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That was oversimplified and incorrect.

If you saw the first two terminator movies, then you've seen it in its entirety, the way James Cameron intended.
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Some of the action scenes were amazing and there wasn't really a feel of a female-dominated, leftist liberal agenda pushing for feminism Or Hispanic rights in this movie. It was more of a byproduct of where Linda Hamilton's character had to live in terms of being a fugitive in the US as well as the location of where Arnold t-800 Terminator form resided in the lower parts of Texas the same.

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I agree, I didn't get an agenda feeling, the story takes place in Mexico because Sarah Conner has fled to Mexico as a wanted felon.

I thought it was a decent movie up until the crashing airplane scenes. That was just too much, became ludicrous after that, the humvee,etc.

A couple of unexpected plot twists. Movie doesn't explain Sarah's sudden friendship with a general willing to commit treason.
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Is this the movie that shows Border Patrol and Ice agents getting slaughtered while illegal aliens escape the detention facilities?
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Some of the action scenes were amazing and there wasn't really a feel of a female-dominated, leftist liberal agenda pushing for feminism Or Hispanic rights in this movie. It was more of a byproduct of where Linda Hamilton's character had to live in terms of being a fugitive in the US as well as the location of where Arnold t-800 Terminator form resided in the lower parts of Texas the same.

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I agree, I didn't get an agenda feeling, the story takes place in Mexico because Sarah Conner has fled to Mexico as a wanted felon.

I thought it was a decent movie up until the crashing airplane scenes. That was just too much, became ludicrous after that, the humvee,etc.

A couple of unexpected plot twists. Movie doesn't explain Sarah's sudden friendship with a general willing to commit treason.
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Totally agree and you are correct. I think I slept through the airplane part as it was dumb as f*ck.

What this movie did do was to combine the parallel lives and timelines of both Sarah Connor in 1 & 2 and then the young girl tying back to 2 & now 3. So many elements taken from both 1 & 2 and now incorporated into this 3rd one.

What we were trying to figure out from it was how the future time line exists from where the new Terminator comes from and it's only by way of the military and A.I., what used to be called Skynet.

It's what Arnold says in the inevitability of humans eventually destroying themselves by one means or another and he's right.

I should add, NO political shit or agenda was in the movie. No slights of right or left, no messages against the military industrial complex and/or reference to any female Presidents (or any governments or leaders) whatsoever.
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Some of the action scenes were amazing and there wasn't really a feel of a female-dominated, leftist liberal agenda pushing for feminism Or Hispanic rights in this movie. It was more of a byproduct of where Linda Hamilton's character had to live in terms of being a fugitive in the US as well as the location of where Arnold t-800 Terminator form resided in the lower parts of Texas the same.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78130551


I agree, I didn't get an agenda feeling, the story takes place in Mexico because Sarah Conner has fled to Mexico as a wanted felon.

I thought it was a decent movie up until the crashing airplane scenes. That was just too much, became ludicrous after that, the humvee,etc.

A couple of unexpected plot twists. Movie doesn't explain Sarah's sudden friendship with a general willing to commit treason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77283375


Totally agree and you are correct. I think I slept through the airplane part as it was dumb as f*ck.

What this movie did do was to combine the parallel lives and timelines of both Sarah Connor in 1 & 2 and then the young girl tying back to 2 & now 3. So many elements taken from both 1 & 2 and now incorporated into this 3rd one.

What we were trying to figure out from it was how the future time line exists from where the new Terminator comes from and it's only by way of the military and A.I., what used to be called Skynet.

It's what Arnold says in the inevitability of humans eventually destroying themselves by one means or another and he's right.

I should add, NO political shit or agenda was in the movie. No slights of right or left, no messages against the military industrial complex and/or reference to any female Presidents (or any governments or leaders) whatsoever.
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The casting had an agenda no matter how implicit. The agenda was "diversity at the expense of applicability".
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Re: Terminator: Dark Fate - An HONEST review (Spoilers ahead)
Thanks for detailed review

No need to be seen

I might however

Go see Dr Sleep
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Terminator, bigger badder WOKE.
I am sure this crap show was made by Gillette.
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I don't get why Caucasians think that women are these dainty flowers that can't fight or do anything.
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I think you meant to post this on IMDB.
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I don't get why Caucasians think that women are these dainty flowers that can't fight or do anything.
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I don't get why fools think that you can compare apples and oranges and still get the same result.
But then again I cheer every single sporting event where a trans wins the woman's competition. Not that I care about the sport, just that they are getting what they deserve.
Half the population could end this nonsense in a day, all they would have to do is acknowledge that men and women are biologically different.
Guess what, that is not gonna happen, sooo...
RIP womens professional sports.
The next olympics will be hilarious.





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