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Another child lost their life because of a PIT BULL dog.

 
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I'm sure if your dog killed a kid on a playground you would just trown the kid in the bushes and lie in the face of the mother looking for his kid.
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i wouldn't bring my dog to a fucking playground with a bunch of kids you goddamned SJW idiot. their job is not to socialize with children they don't know, but to protect my property and my family, and they do wonderful job of it.

the reason they re being targeted by the media nd 00SJW like you is because they make it impossible for anyone to victimize me without being bitten
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Pit Bulls are man made atrocities, they should be eradicated. People that own them are overcompensators end of story. 9 out of 10 dogs taking up space in shelters are fucking shit bulls, wonder why... hmmm are you too fuckin dumb to figure it out?
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Well you can't get rid of the bad owners can you? and they certainly won't admit screwing up!
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You're more full of shit than a Christmas Turkey. People like you are idiots. There is NO WAY to "train out" instinct. Read the story about the fox and the scorpion.

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I'm the first on this thread pointing out the instinct and hierarchy of dogs. So I'm not sure what your weak mind is trying to make up. You seem to imply that since the dogacted out of instinct then the owner is not responsible.

I would like then to unleash a couple of lions on you and discuss your point of you while your internal organs are ripped off.

if the animal can flip and become a problem either citizens should not own them at all or they should ensure a proved safe way to keep them AND STILL FUCK BEING 100% RESPONSIBLE OF THE DAMAGES.

do you have an idea of how many people have car incidents because of wondering animals? Well I assure you that in EU there are many examples of countries in wich if a cow or a dog causes an incident the owner goes to jail and someone dies they are persecuted for murder.

keep your fucking animals under control or expect the consequences.

all pieces of shit ready to shrug their shoulders and walk away.
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Show me where I said an owner should not be held accountable.
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the problem is what you consider" to be held accountable"

what is the fair accountability for someone who own a dog as literally a "gun switchin on by itself and gunning random people" once the dog kill a kid?

a fine? put down the dog? the reality is that you should be convicted for premeditated murder, because you killed someone by knowly owning an animal that can in any moment flip and you didn't actuallu made all possibility to avoid this.
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Hiw many kids died because of UShitA foreign policies?
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You're more full of shit than a Christmas Turkey. People like you are idiots. There is NO WAY to "train out" instinct. Read the story about the fox and the scorpion.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77190007


I'm the first on this thread pointing out the instinct and hierarchy of dogs. So I'm not sure what your weak mind is trying to make up. You seem to imply that since the dogacted out of instinct then the owner is not responsible.

I would like then to unleash a couple of lions on you and discuss your point of you while your internal organs are ripped off.

if the animal can flip and become a problem either citizens should not own them at all or they should ensure a proved safe way to keep them AND STILL FUCK BEING 100% RESPONSIBLE OF THE DAMAGES.

do you have an idea of how many people have car incidents because of wondering animals? Well I assure you that in EU there are many examples of countries in wich if a cow or a dog causes an incident the owner goes to jail and someone dies they are persecuted for murder.

keep your fucking animals under control or expect the consequences.

all pieces of shit ready to shrug their shoulders and walk away.
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Show me where I said an owner should not be held accountable.
 Quoting: HEBGB


the problem is what you consider" to be held accountable"

what is the fair accountability for someone who own a dog as literally a "gun switchin on by itself and gunning random people" once the dog kill a kid?

a fine? put down the dog? the reality is that you should be convicted for premeditated murder, because you killed someone by knowly owning an animal that can in any moment flip and you didn't actuallu made all possibility to avoid this.
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With your way of thinking there would be no communists or socialists left either, sice both have been the greatest mass murderers!
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I'm sure if your dog killed a kid on a playground you would just trown the kid in the bushes and lie in the face of the mother looking for his kid.
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i wouldn't bring my dog to a fucking playground with a bunch of kids you goddamned SJW idiot. their job is not to socialize with children they don't know, but to protect my property and my family, and they do wonderful job of it.

the reason they re being targeted by the media nd 00SJW like you is because they make it impossible for anyone to victimize me without being bitten
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545472



Pit Bulls are man made atrocities, they should be eradicated. People that own them are overcompensators end of story. 9 out of 10 dogs taking up space in shelters are fucking shit bulls, wonder why... hmmm are you too fuckin dumb to figure it out?
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Well you can't get rid of the bad owners can you? and they certainly won't admit screwing up!
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There are bad owners who own retrievers and pointers and heelers and border collies and greyhounds and great danes and shepherds, etc. YET the frequency of DEADLY attacks is HEAVILY WEIGHTED toward pit bulls.

Enough with the "it's the owner not the dog" counter argument. It makes you sound like you had a lobotomy.
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i have news for you, those dogs could have been any breed of dog and they would have done exactly the same thing. Tey could have very easily killed it with one bite, but they didn't...why? because dogs fight, and size has zip to do with it..i've seen a yorkie take on a mastiff and the bigger dog cower..

You want to hear something really disturbing, it's not a natural predator attacking another, it is obvious that situation was staged and the scumbag doing the filming most likely threw that poor little dog to those bigger dogs (not "pit bulls,there's no such breed) and filmed for propaganda purposes...right?

why didn't the social justice warrior drop his camera and help the poor dog?, i would have, and i'll wager 99% of "pit bull" owners would too

checkmate
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Not if the shitbull owners are dead by their own dogs :cruiser:
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Several breeds of Terriers are lumped into the Pit Bull category: American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier, Miniature Bull Terrier, and any dog that resembles a "Pit Bull".

If you truly want a dog to fear, put the Anatolian Shepard at the top of the list.These dogs make a "Pit Bull" look like a wimpy puppy.I never saw one in person until I went to visit with the late poster,my good friend Silver Patriot, before she passed away from cancer in July.This dog hated everybody. It wanted to rip me to shreds just for being there.Silver Patriots husband had to lock the dog up during my visit.
I am an animal lover and a real softie when it comes to them, and they sense this and are usually very friendly towards me.Their Saint Bernard showered me with drool,and Saint Bernard's can be picky.Their Anatolian Shepard only liked Silver Patriot and her husband, and wanted to eliminate me.
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I live in a rural environment my neighbor's Pitt Bull ran a surprising long way went into a neighbors garage while people were in the garage and killed their little dog.

It was like a murder scene. Poor little dog was trying to hide under the cars.




The people that owned that Pitt Bull are nice people.

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Note in the link above

54 cases involved a dog killing its primary owner. Pit bulls inflicted 63% (34) of these deaths, over 8 times more than any other breed



I am a dog lover. Dogs are wired to love not kill their primary owner.
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I agree with this guy

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Everyone will agree that labrador retrievers will retrieve things by instinct due to selective breeding. Everyone will agree that a husky will run and run and run by instinct due to selective breeding. Everyone will agree that a pointer will "point" and indicate where a bird is by instinct due to selective breeding. Everyone will agree that a hound will chase something down by smell by instinct due to selective breeding. Everyone will agree that a rat terrier will kill small rodents by instinct due to selective breeding. But a pitbull, coincidently used worldwide for its aggressive fighting prowess and inability to cease an attack when triggered... well, that's just because the owners treated them that way. Nothing to do with instinct due to selective breeding. SMH
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*This*

Stop blaming the owner. I have no doubts my neighbor treated their dog like family.


The owner is guilty of buying a dog that has been selectively bred to be an instinctive aggressive fighter.
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It's often the owners of the dog responsible for how aggressive the animal becomes.
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Then they should go to prison for murder.
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Child killed by dog that mother stabbed to try and stop attack

POSTED 1:35 PM, NOVEMBER 2, 2019, BY WEB STAFF, UPDATED AT 01:34PM, NOVEMBER 2, 2019

HAZEL PARK, Mich. -- A four-year-old boy died Tuesday night in Michigan after being mauled by a dog, WXYZ reports.

Authorities say the family, who lived in the town of hazel park, north of Detroit, were watching the dog for a friend.

Despite his mother's attempts to save him by stabbing the 60-pound pit bull who had hold of her son, 4-year-old Benjamin lost his life.

"The mom was in the room at the same time. She heard a low growl, turned and the attack was already happening," said Chief Brian Buchholz, with Hazel park police...

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 Quoting: ScrumpTheTexan


Horrifying and so very, very sad for the family as well as the owners of the dog. Can you imagine how they feel? It's terrible all the way around. That poor baby!

I spent seven years as volunteer in a pet rescue society. Our manager had very definite opinions about certain things. We took in any dog that needed to be taken in, and most were later adopted. No pit bull was ever adopted from that society.

I have strong feelings about pitts, too. There are some wonderful, perfect, loving pitt bull family members, who would not cause harm to anyone or anything.

Until one day they wake up, and that's the day. They lose it and go after a dog, a child, an adult even. Nobody knows when this will happen, how many years the dog will be "good" until it goes bad. There is no predicting. I have dogs. I adopted a number of dogs. Is one a pitt bull? No. Period.
 Quoting: Pooka

Pooka is 100% correct. One day they just wake up and their aggression is released, usually unprovoked.

BTW, these are a few of my red karma replies, I have rubbed folks the wrong way. I understand, but you know nothing of me or my past and what I have seen in my many years here on earth.

Red karma
Take yer mindless pitbull hate and jam it up yerazz, sideways.

I didn't dole out red fuck nugget, but take one now.

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To these replies let me say..

I get it, but I will not say I am sorry for this thread. If even one child is spared because of a conversation , then I will gladly take all of the slings and arrows.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


You're all uninformed idiots. Citing news stories while at other times shouting fake news and complaining how sensationalist the media is. Ignorance at its finest. Get educated. Maybe get some first hand experience. Go volunteer at a pitbull rescue for a year or so where often they take in dogs that were mistreated or maybe not, and see how even after suffering at the hands of humans, they still show unconditional love and respect and follow YOUR lead if you're a good person. If pitbulls should be euthanized, then humans should be euthanized. All of em. For humans commit far more heinous acts that are completely unpredictable far too often. You never know when a human is just gonna snap one day and kill you, reason or not. Scary shit.
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Best comment I've read thus far. I was a dog trainer at a Pitt bull rescue for two years, lived at the rescue for half that time. We rescued all dog breeds but mostly Pitts. I've been bit several times, mostly breaking up fights between dogs that didn't get along. Guess what though? It was NEVER a pitt bull that bit me, though at least 80% of the dogs were pitts!
I'm far more concerned with being bit by a rottweiler or an akita than a pitt.
Now, do I think a pitt is for anyone? Heavens no! They are a tremendous responsibility. And as such a responsibility parallel to driving a car, pitt ownership should be by license only acquired after passing an ownership exam and providing proof of insurance and proper restraint (fenced-in yard, etc...).
I do not agree with the logic of "exterminate the breed because they can be dangerous!". If you choose to own a potentially dangerous pet, assume the proper responsibility and take the proper precautions. The house I rent now does not have proper fencing (and I'm not allowed to improve the fencing), so I don't have a dog. I adopted my red nose to a good friend who had a proper yard and fencing when I moved, even changing owners the dog has never bared teeth to anyone much less bitten a human. It is NOT "the breeds nature" to attack unprovoked. If this WAS the case, EVERY pitt would do it.
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Horrifying and so very, very sad for the family as well as the owners of the dog. Can you imagine how they feel? It's terrible all the way around. That poor baby!

I spent seven years as volunteer in a pet rescue society. Our manager had very definite opinions about certain things. We took in any dog that needed to be taken in, and most were later adopted. No pit bull was ever adopted from that society.

I have strong feelings about pitts, too. There are some wonderful, perfect, loving pitt bull family members, who would not cause harm to anyone or anything.

Until one day they wake up, and that's the day. They lose it and go after a dog, a child, an adult even. Nobody knows when this will happen, how many years the dog will be "good" until it goes bad. There is no predicting. I have dogs. I adopted a number of dogs. Is one a pitt bull? No. Period.
 Quoting: Pooka

Pooka is 100% correct. One day they just wake up and their aggression is released, usually unprovoked.

BTW, these are a few of my red karma replies, I have rubbed folks the wrong way. I understand, but you know nothing of me or my past and what I have seen in my many years here on earth.

Red karma
Take yer mindless pitbull hate and jam it up yerazz, sideways.

I didn't dole out red fuck nugget, but take one now.

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To these replies let me say..

I get it, but I will not say I am sorry for this thread. If even one child is spared because of a conversation , then I will gladly take all of the slings and arrows.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


You're all uninformed idiots. Citing news stories while at other times shouting fake news and complaining how sensationalist the media is. Ignorance at its finest. Get educated. Maybe get some first hand experience. Go volunteer at a pitbull rescue for a year or so where often they take in dogs that were mistreated or maybe not, and see how even after suffering at the hands of humans, they still show unconditional love and respect and follow YOUR lead if you're a good person. If pitbulls should be euthanized, then humans should be euthanized. All of em. For humans commit far more heinous acts that are completely unpredictable far too often. You never know when a human is just gonna snap one day and kill you, reason or not. Scary shit.
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Best comment I've read thus far. I was a dog trainer at a Pitt bull rescue for two years, lived at the rescue for half that time. We rescued all dog breeds but mostly Pitts. I've been bit several times, mostly breaking up fights between dogs that didn't get along. Guess what though? It was NEVER a pitt bull that bit me, though at least 80% of the dogs were pitts!
I'm far more concerned with being bit by a rottweiler or an akita than a pitt.
Now, do I think a pitt is for anyone? Heavens no! They are a tremendous responsibility. And as such a responsibility parallel to driving a car, pitt ownership should be by license only acquired after passing an ownership exam and providing proof of insurance and proper restraint (fenced-in yard, etc...).
I do not agree with the logic of "exterminate the breed because they can be dangerous!". If you choose to own a potentially dangerous pet, assume the proper responsibility and take the proper precautions. The house I rent now does not have proper fencing (and I'm not allowed to improve the fencing), so I don't have a dog. I adopted my red nose to a good friend who had a proper yard and fencing when I moved, even changing owners the dog has never bared teeth to anyone much less bitten a human. It is NOT "the breeds nature" to attack unprovoked. If this WAS the case, EVERY pitt would do it.
 Quoting: Hiram's Apprentice


Let me just throw this out there, everyday, all day on the Plant Earth people interact with poisonous snakes. Most encounters result in the heart rate increasing and a swift escape. No harm no foul.

Now on the other hand, if you step on the snake, corner the snake, startle the snake then you would surely be bitten.

I would say 95% of encounters are just frightening experiences, but for those remaining 5%, it is likely a lethal and deadly experience, and will physically alter your body and life.

Most Pit Bulls have never nor would they ever attack a person of any age, but how do you know which one will attack, and most importantly WHEN such an attack will happen, and what will trigger it?

I am not prepared to take that risk.
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Pooka is 100% correct. One day they just wake up and their aggression is released, usually unprovoked.

BTW, these are a few of my red karma replies, I have rubbed folks the wrong way. I understand, but you know nothing of me or my past and what I have seen in my many years here on earth.

Red karma
Take yer mindless pitbull hate and jam it up yerazz, sideways.

I didn't dole out red fuck nugget, but take one now.

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To these replies let me say..

I get it, but I will not say I am sorry for this thread. If even one child is spared because of a conversation , then I will gladly take all of the slings and arrows.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


You're all uninformed idiots. Citing news stories while at other times shouting fake news and complaining how sensationalist the media is. Ignorance at its finest. Get educated. Maybe get some first hand experience. Go volunteer at a pitbull rescue for a year or so where often they take in dogs that were mistreated or maybe not, and see how even after suffering at the hands of humans, they still show unconditional love and respect and follow YOUR lead if you're a good person. If pitbulls should be euthanized, then humans should be euthanized. All of em. For humans commit far more heinous acts that are completely unpredictable far too often. You never know when a human is just gonna snap one day and kill you, reason or not. Scary shit.
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Best comment I've read thus far. I was a dog trainer at a Pitt bull rescue for two years, lived at the rescue for half that time. We rescued all dog breeds but mostly Pitts. I've been bit several times, mostly breaking up fights between dogs that didn't get along. Guess what though? It was NEVER a pitt bull that bit me, though at least 80% of the dogs were pitts!
I'm far more concerned with being bit by a rottweiler or an akita than a pitt.
Now, do I think a pitt is for anyone? Heavens no! They are a tremendous responsibility. And as such a responsibility parallel to driving a car, pitt ownership should be by license only acquired after passing an ownership exam and providing proof of insurance and proper restraint (fenced-in yard, etc...).
I do not agree with the logic of "exterminate the breed because they can be dangerous!". If you choose to own a potentially dangerous pet, assume the proper responsibility and take the proper precautions. The house I rent now does not have proper fencing (and I'm not allowed to improve the fencing), so I don't have a dog. I adopted my red nose to a good friend who had a proper yard and fencing when I moved, even changing owners the dog has never bared teeth to anyone much less bitten a human. It is NOT "the breeds nature" to attack unprovoked. If this WAS the case, EVERY pitt would do it.
 Quoting: Hiram's Apprentice


Let me just throw this out there, everyday, all day on the Plant Earth people interact with poisonous snakes. Most encounters result in the heart rate increasing and a swift escape. No harm no foul.

Now on the other hand, if you step on the snake, corner the snake, startle the snake then you would surely be bitten.

I would say 95% of encounters are just frightening experiences, but for those remaining 5%, it is likely a lethal and deadly experience, and will physically alter your body and life.

Most Pit Bulls have never nor would they ever attack a person of any age, but how do you know which one will attack, and most importantly WHEN such an attack will happen, and what will trigger it?

I am not prepared to take that risk.
 Quoting: Loup Garou


I dont disagree with you, no one is saying YOU have to have or even NEED a pitt. I DO agree that a LOT of pitt bull owners have no business owning them, but does that mean they should be banned and/or euthanized outright? No!

I really like your venomous snake analogy--- from 2000 through 2003, I participated in Rattlesnake Roundup in Sweetwater, TX... It was a VERY lucrative side gig during the spring months of my college years. I caught hundreds of snakes, never got bit. I also did freelance snake removal at an airfield in Palmdale CA for a couple summers... catching Mojave Greens and transporting them to a lab that milked them to make antivenom. Again--- I knew what I was doing and never got bit.

Now days... while I dont have a proper yard to keep a dog, I do have pet turtles, while getting bit by most of them would be a rather unpleasant experience... my snapping turtle could easily detach a finger if so inclined. While turtles CAN be trained to a certain degree, they are far more unpredictable than any dog breed.
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Themanomaly loves his children like sexy daughters

Themanomaly loves his dogs too except pit bulls
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It's often the owners of the dog responsible for how aggressive the animal becomes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77685789


True but considering that all dogs are mutated and inbred wolves it doesn’t seem a smart gamble to domesticate most of any of them, why stop at pitt bulls?
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yeah. don't pet sit a pitbull.
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Fuck this shit breed of dog .
Wtf kind of animal attacks and kills a child ???
Oh yeah a fucking pro choice liberal doctor .. ..
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It's often the owners of the dog responsible for how aggressive the animal becomes.
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True but considering that all dogs are mutated and inbred wolves it doesn’t seem a smart gamble to domesticate most of any of them, why stop at pitt bulls?
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Oh bull shit
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Pit bulls where bred to be killers. Time to get rid of all of them.
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Guns were made to kill people, time to get rid of them all I guess!
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Well, the first time I see a gun sprout legs, get up and walk over to the neighbor's house I will agree with you. afro
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Out of all the breeds..

Why do people seek these dogs out?

What's so special that people gotta have em?
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Snapping turtles have not killed 284 people in the years between (2005 to 2017).




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Everyone will agree that labrador retrievers will retrieve things by instinct due to selective breeding. Everyone will agree that a husky will run and run and run by instinct due to selective breeding. Everyone will agree that a pointer will "point" and indicate where a bird is by instinct due to selective breeding. Everyone will agree that a hound will chase something down by smell by instinct due to selective breeding. Everyone will agree that a rat terrier will kill small rodents by instinct due to selective breeding. But a pitbull, coincidently used worldwide for its aggressive fighting prowess and inability to cease an attack when triggered... well, that's just because the owners treated them that way. Nothing to do with instinct due to selective breeding. SMH
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umm..no

pit bulls were not bred to kill kids nor are they any more persistent in an attack than an Akita, German shepherd, chow, rottweiler, or st Bernard for that matter. the "locking jaws" bullshit is just that, ALL dogs can "lock" their jaws and all large dogs have powerful jaws cable of easily killing children

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here are some pesky FACTS

[link to www.dogsbite.org (secure)]

PDF of deaths from dogs from 2005 - 2017
 Quoting: Loup Garou


GREAT LINK. THANKS.





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