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The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.

 
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The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
Mexican cartels are well armed, well trained, well organized, tech savvy and they got lots of cash. They get printouts of all the cops, their addresses and their salaries. The cops that are not corrupt get compromised. The federales police force are corrupt and widely feared. The politicians, also corrupt. Any leaders that rise up for the people are quickly killed. Young men trained in the military take better paying jobs or side work with the cartels. Few murders are solved or even investigated. If you are a cartel member you can freely kill anyone except if they belong to another cartel. The citizens have no support. Mexico has fallen. The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and armed militias.

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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
I know a Mexican landscaper that is a US citizen who drives to Monterrey several times a year to visit family. He takes an old truck and $2000 cash. He says main roads and highways will be blocked off by armed men who demand up to $500 from each vehicle.
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The Zetas once grabbed some men from an opposing cartel that were staying at a Holiday Inn in downtown Monterrey. It was a Thursday afternoon. With military precision they stopped cars in a wide perimeter around the hotel, removed the occupants at gun point, and used the cars they seized to block the roads while other cartel members searched the hotel for the guys they wanted. They found the men they were looking for and removed them. It was estimated that they used 150 men to carry out the operation.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
we'll reduce it to rubble. just like we have Iraq and Syria.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
Lol it has always been like this in Mexico. Mexico is a land full of pirates on the take.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
Mexican cartels are well armed, well trained, well organized, tech savvy and they got lots of cash. They get printouts of all the cops, their addresses and their salaries. The cops that are not corrupt get compromised. The federales police force are corrupt and widely feared. The politicians, also corrupt. Any leaders that rise up for the people are quickly killed. Young men trained in the military take better paying jobs or side work with the cartels. Few murders are solved or even investigated. If you are a cartel member you can freely kill anyone except if they belong to another cartel. The citizens have no support. Mexico has fallen. The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and armed militias.

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I lived in Rosarito, Mexico. I'm a singer/guitar player and I was playing in the bars for all the retired Americans who live there. There are thousands.
It took me a few years, but I started to notice that the cartels run everything. I smoke weed, but I knew better than to ever buy weed in Mexico. I would drive up to San Diego and buy it with my legal Cali ID. One place I was playing started to tell people that I could sell them weed, so I quit. I yelled at the owner "are you trying to get me killed?". About a year after that, my friend was murdered. She was hit by the side of the road and they called it an accident, but I was the person she was confiding in. She had been hanging out in that place and talking too loudly about the weed business going on in there.
After she was murdered, my computer was killed by a virus. That was the computer that she had been talking to me on. I took my laptop to a local tech and it scared him. He lost four computers trying to get info off of mine. He didn't believe the cartels could have a virus that sophisticated. He thought it was of Israeli source.
Put that together. The cartels in Mexico have access to a virus so bad it acts like stuxnet.
I got a strong feeling that it was time for me to move out of there. just in time, too because that area is on fire.
The American ex pats who live there and party in the local bars are in la la land. They live in mansions that are very cheap compared to California, and live like they are in Malibu. I and a missionary friend of mine tried to warn them about what is coming. We both found out that the cartels are just waiting for permission for a blood bath.
The cia created this mess.
I love Mexico. I love living there. I write songs in Spanish and I sing in Spanish and I'm a mexican wannabe. I am loved there by Mexicans for my love for their culture. I can't go back because the blood bath is coming.
The cartels are armed well thanks to Obama and fast and furious. Mexicans can't get guns, only the cartel has access to guns.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
we'll reduce it to rubble. just like we have Iraq and Syria.
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You are evil.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
Mexico is a completely corrupt shit-hole country and needs to be held accountable via tariffs and if that doesn't work, we need to put military presence along the entire boarder.

After all that, if Mexico continues to flood our country with their drugs and shitty citizens, WAR.
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Lol it has always been like this in Mexico. Mexico is a land full of pirates on the take.
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I used to drive to Monterrey once a month to help out my parents who retired there. It was always risky but manageable. It’s a whole different game now. I would never drive there now.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
Mexico is a completely corrupt shit-hole country and needs to be held accountable via tariffs and if that doesn't work, we need to put military presence along the entire boarder.

After all that, if Mexico continues to flood our country with their drugs and shitty citizens, WAR.
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the Congress will be holding hearings about it soon.
and The President is monitoring the situation.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
Mexican cartels are well armed, well trained, well organized, tech savvy and they got lots of cash. They get printouts of all the cops, their addresses and their salaries. The cops that are not corrupt get compromised. The federales police force are corrupt and widely feared. The politicians, also corrupt. Any leaders that rise up for the people are quickly killed. Young men trained in the military take better paying jobs or side work with the cartels. Few murders are solved or even investigated. If you are a cartel member you can freely kill anyone except if they belong to another cartel. The citizens have no support. Mexico has fallen. The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and armed militias.

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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
The same goes on here in the USA. Just because its happening in Mexico, doesn't mean the same hasn't already happened here, at least 2 dozen times. The only difference? A lot of crime goes unreported because it doesn't serve the sponsored narrative.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
we'll reduce it to rubble. just like we have Iraq and Syria.
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You are evil.
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News flash, almost every one on the site is evil. I have read nothing but murderous rage coming for people here. Talk about unhinged.
Not enough mental hospitals in the US by the look of things.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
They scare off the Mexican, and American armed forces. Should of never criminalised drugs.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
It's Catholic
Every country like it is notoriously ruled by war lords

It's not a Christian land and it's about time to understand the difference between communities in which the holy soirit is present and those that are not

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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
we'll reduce it to rubble. just like we have Iraq and Syria.
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You are evil.
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HAHA that shit hole needs to be reduced to rubble, and then put through a smasher, and then set on fire.

Fuck the cartels and fuck the government there, that would be the best thing that could happen, evil my ass, more like practical.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
no the ONLY hope for mexico is if our military goes in and takes out ALL of the cartels.

anything else is just pissin in the wind.

i was the only person to say mexico in this thread.

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Ha ha yeah.

Heart ripping history is gonna save itself.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
Mexican cartels are well armed, well trained, well organized, tech savvy and they got lots of cash. They get printouts of all the cops, their addresses and their salaries. The cops that are not corrupt get compromised. The federales police force are corrupt and widely feared. The politicians, also corrupt. Any leaders that rise up for the people are quickly killed. Young men trained in the military take better paying jobs or side work with the cartels. Few murders are solved or even investigated. If you are a cartel member you can freely kill anyone except if they belong to another cartel. The citizens have no support. Mexico has fallen. The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and armed militias.

Clint
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I lived in Rosarito, Mexico. I'm a singer/guitar player and I was playing in the bars for all the retired Americans who live there. There are thousands.
It took me a few years, but I started to notice that the cartels run everything. I smoke weed, but I knew better than to ever buy weed in Mexico. I would drive up to San Diego and buy it with my legal Cali ID. One place I was playing started to tell people that I could sell them weed, so I quit. I yelled at the owner "are you trying to get me killed?". About a year after that, my friend was murdered. She was hit by the side of the road and they called it an accident, but I was the person she was confiding in. She had been hanging out in that place and talking too loudly about the weed business going on in there.
After she was murdered, my computer was killed by a virus. That was the computer that she had been talking to me on. I took my laptop to a local tech and it scared him. He lost four computers trying to get info off of mine. He didn't believe the cartels could have a virus that sophisticated. He thought it was of Israeli source.
Put that together. The cartels in Mexico have access to a virus so bad it acts like stuxnet.
I got a strong feeling that it was time for me to move out of there. just in time, too because that area is on fire.
The American ex pats who live there and party in the local bars are in la la land. They live in mansions that are very cheap compared to California, and live like they are in Malibu. I and a missionary friend of mine tried to warn them about what is coming. We both found out that the cartels are just waiting for permission for a blood bath.
The cia created this mess.
I love Mexico. I love living there. I write songs in Spanish and I sing in Spanish and I'm a mexican wannabe. I am loved there by Mexicans for my love for their culture. I can't go back because the blood bath is coming.
The cartels are armed well thanks to Obama and fast and furious. Mexicans can't get guns, only the cartel has access to guns.
 Quoting: hollyavila


Thx for this^^^

I think you have nailed it,

we could clean it up, it is an obvious threat to our citizens and national security,

but

CIA and MOSSAD

make a LOT of money(off the books) down there.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
The thing is.....it is ingrained in the Mexican mans dna to always try to become el jefe. No matter the situation. It comes for the ancestry of always fighting one thing or another, politicians, wars, strife etc.

I grew up on the border and traveling back and forth across the border. The men will form a group to control a village, then they will have disagreements with another village leader. And shit breaks between them and grows due to cousins, wives and so on.

Or you have a group/village in a much more prosperous area, better land, more water, more money, the poorer groups don’t think it’s right they get the rocky dry area....shit breaks out.

The men are corrupt in every single aspect of life there. Sure politicians, but so are utilities, even the clerk taking your water payment.
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The whole reason things will never improve in Mexican is because the cartels own the government.

There, it's been said.

The elephant in the room.

The cartels own the Mexican government because Mexico supplies almost all the drugs to the wealthy elites in North America.
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The thing is.....it is ingrained in the Mexican mans dna to always try to become el jefe. No matter the situation. It comes for the ancestry of always fighting one thing or another, politicians, wars, strife etc.

I grew up on the border and traveling back and forth across the border. The men will form a group to control a village, then they will have disagreements with another village leader. And shit breaks between them and grows due to cousins, wives and so on.

Or you have a group/village in a much more prosperous area, better land, more water, more money, the poorer groups don’t think it’s right they get the rocky dry area....shit breaks out.

The men are corrupt in every single aspect of life there. Sure politicians, but so are utilities, even the clerk taking your water payment.
‘It is a mess.
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Wow, thank you.

It's incredible that some people here don't understand that Mexico's situation is a direct consequence of their culture.

Mayans and Aztecs in 2019.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
Mexican cartels are well armed, well trained, well organized, tech savvy and they got lots of cash. They get printouts of all the cops, their addresses and their salaries. The cops that are not corrupt get compromised. The federales police force are corrupt and widely feared. The politicians, also corrupt. Any leaders that rise up for the people are quickly killed. Young men trained in the military take better paying jobs or side work with the cartels. Few murders are solved or even investigated. If you are a cartel member you can freely kill anyone except if they belong to another cartel. The citizens have no support. Mexico has fallen. The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and armed militias.

Clint
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I lived in Rosarito, Mexico. I'm a singer/guitar player and I was playing in the bars for all the retired Americans who live there. There are thousands.
It took me a few years, but I started to notice that the cartels run everything. I smoke weed, but I knew better than to ever buy weed in Mexico. I would drive up to San Diego and buy it with my legal Cali ID. One place I was playing started to tell people that I could sell them weed, so I quit. I yelled at the owner "are you trying to get me killed?". About a year after that, my friend was murdered. She was hit by the side of the road and they called it an accident, but I was the person she was confiding in. She had been hanging out in that place and talking too loudly about the weed business going on in there.
After she was murdered, my computer was killed by a virus. That was the computer that she had been talking to me on. I took my laptop to a local tech and it scared him. He lost four computers trying to get info off of mine. He didn't believe the cartels could have a virus that sophisticated. He thought it was of Israeli source.
Put that together. The cartels in Mexico have access to a virus so bad it acts like stuxnet.
I got a strong feeling that it was time for me to move out of there. just in time, too because that area is on fire.
The American ex pats who live there and party in the local bars are in la la land. They live in mansions that are very cheap compared to California, and live like they are in Malibu. I and a missionary friend of mine tried to warn them about what is coming. We both found out that the cartels are just waiting for permission for a blood bath.
The cia created this mess.
I love Mexico. I love living there. I write songs in Spanish and I sing in Spanish and I'm a mexican wannabe. I am loved there by Mexicans for my love for their culture. I can't go back because the blood bath is coming.
The cartels are armed well thanks to Obama and fast and furious. Mexicans can't get guns, only the cartel has access to guns.
 Quoting: hollyavila


Thx for this^^^

I think you have nailed it,

we could clean it up, it is an obvious threat to our citizens and national security,

but

CIA and MOSSAD

make a LOT of money(off the books) down there.

 Quoting: Seagull Lake


Exactly. It's a giant honeypot down there. The proxy-US with better weather and zero laws.

*edit* I suppose I should say that they DO have a law down there and it's that no law-abiding citizen be allowed to own a firearm for protection.

Ironic...or not.

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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
To be fair, I think this situation is the EXACT point the U.S. demands that we be allowed in to take action OR admit we are allowing this situation to go on for nefarious reasons.
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Re: The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and an armed militia.
no the ONLY hope for mexico is if our military goes in and takes out ALL of the cartels.

anything else is just pissin in the wind.

i was the only person to say mexico in this thread.

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Yeah, right another endless war. We are still fighting the war on drugs with no success because once again the will to win is not there.

This is Mexicans problems not Americans.

Trump should close the border, stop remittances, and tariff everything forcing Mexico to make the hard choice and weed out these cartels for good however the corruption is so deep in Mexico it will never happen, ever.
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Mexican cartels are well armed, well trained, well organized, tech savvy and they got lots of cash. They get printouts of all the cops, their addresses and their salaries. The cops that are not corrupt get compromised. The federales police force are corrupt and widely feared. The politicians, also corrupt. Any leaders that rise up for the people are quickly killed. Young men trained in the military take better paying jobs or side work with the cartels. Few murders are solved or even investigated. If you are a cartel member you can freely kill anyone except if they belong to another cartel. The citizens have no support. Mexico has fallen. The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and armed militias.

Clint
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And as soon as the cartels get wind that people are looking for weapons...

Mexico's economy is somewhere between 7-12% cartel related. All that cash that comes back from drug sales doesn't just sit there. It gets used to build hotels, bars, restaurants, etc., etc., etc.

If the cartels magically disappeared tomorrow? Mexico would collapse economically, it's that ingrained.

Mexico is doomed. Period.
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They scare off the Mexican, and American armed forces. Should of never criminalised drugs.
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Yes, if drugs were decriminalized tomorrow it would take a lot of the wind out of their sails- there's still human trafficking too.
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To be fair, I think this situation is the EXACT point the U.S. demands that we be allowed in to take action OR admit we are allowing this situation to go on for nefarious reasons.
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We are involved, have been for 40-50 years, and for all the wrong reasons.

Iran-Contra anyone?
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Mexican cartels are well armed, well trained, well organized, tech savvy and they got lots of cash. They get printouts of all the cops, their addresses and their salaries. The cops that are not corrupt get compromised. The federales police force are corrupt and widely feared. The politicians, also corrupt. Any leaders that rise up for the people are quickly killed. Young men trained in the military take better paying jobs or side work with the cartels. Few murders are solved or even investigated. If you are a cartel member you can freely kill anyone except if they belong to another cartel. The citizens have no support. Mexico has fallen. The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and armed militias.

Clint
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Hell yes the cartels are well armed. Oblowme and Holder gave them 20,000..that's 20K AUTOMATIC WEAPONS..FAST AND FURIOUS...Mexican blood is on THEIR hands
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everyone has it wrong - Mexico's answer to its drug problems----- An individual called



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Mexican cartels are well armed, well trained, well organized, tech savvy and they got lots of cash. They get printouts of all the cops, their addresses and their salaries. The cops that are not corrupt get compromised. The federales police force are corrupt and widely feared. The politicians, also corrupt. Any leaders that rise up for the people are quickly killed. Young men trained in the military take better paying jobs or side work with the cartels. Few murders are solved or even investigated. If you are a cartel member you can freely kill anyone except if they belong to another cartel. The citizens have no support. Mexico has fallen. The only hope for Mexico is armed citizens and armed militias.

Clint
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I lived in Rosarito, Mexico. I'm a singer/guitar player and I was playing in the bars for all the retired Americans who live there. There are thousands.
It took me a few years, but I started to notice that the cartels run everything. I smoke weed, but I knew better than to ever buy weed in Mexico. I would drive up to San Diego and buy it with my legal Cali ID. One place I was playing started to tell people that I could sell them weed, so I quit. I yelled at the owner "are you trying to get me killed?". About a year after that, my friend was murdered. She was hit by the side of the road and they called it an accident, but I was the person she was confiding in. She had been hanging out in that place and talking too loudly about the weed business going on in there.
After she was murdered, my computer was killed by a virus. That was the computer that she had been talking to me on. I took my laptop to a local tech and it scared him. He lost four computers trying to get info off of mine. He didn't believe the cartels could have a virus that sophisticated. He thought it was of Israeli source.
Put that together. The cartels in Mexico have access to a virus so bad it acts like stuxnet.
I got a strong feeling that it was time for me to move out of there. just in time, too because that area is on fire.
The American ex pats who live there and party in the local bars are in la la land. They live in mansions that are very cheap compared to California, and live like they are in Malibu. I and a missionary friend of mine tried to warn them about what is coming. We both found out that the cartels are just waiting for permission for a blood bath.
The cia created this mess.
I love Mexico. I love living there. I write songs in Spanish and I sing in Spanish and I'm a mexican wannabe. I am loved there by Mexicans for my love for their culture. I can't go back because the blood bath is coming.
The cartels are armed well thanks to Obama and fast and furious. Mexicans can't get guns, only the cartel has access to guns.
 Quoting: hollyavila


Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming courtesy of barry and friends.

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Although the "wall" sounds good in theory. How many of the cut throat, blood thirsty savages are mingled within already.

I wouldn't go to Mexico for all the tea in China.
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