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MAN SHARES ASTOUNDING NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE: Have you SEEN or EXPERIENCED the WHEEL? Do you know what is behind the WHEEL and what it is?

 
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Read and enjoy. One of the most amazing Near Death Experiences.

Experience Description
A friend persuaded me to submit this account, against my natural tendency on the matter. I have no real interest in following it up or being contacted in any way. It was a very frightening episode. It is traumatic enough, to be honest, to recall it just once at length here. But having set out to describe it, I will be as frank and as accurate as language can allow.

On the 15th July 2013, at about 7.45am, I was on my way to work and approaching the intersection and getting ready to take a left-hand turn. This is a notoriously dangerous intersection on any day, and there have been many accidents there. It is hard to see if the intersection is clear from the right and the left turn is particularly hazardous. I was running late and in a flustered state of mind. I had an important meeting that I’d been planning for carefully over a number of days, and a really stupid delay at the last minute put all of that in jeopardy. It should also be understood that a much better traffic signal system exists there today than was in place at the time of this incident.

I approached the intersection in a hurry. I looked to the right and believed that I had correctly viewed that nothing was approaching from the right, so I made the left turn. As I crossed the intersection, I glanced right once more and saw a vehicle heading straight for me at what could only have been in excess of ninety miles per hour. We saw each other. I saw the look in the other guy’s eyes because we were that close. A collision was absolutely inevitable. There is no way on this earth that it could have been avoided.

What happens next is EXTREMELY difficult to describe, but I will do my best. And this can be (and must be) taken to apply to everything that I am going to attempt to relate from this point onwards. Words, even the most carefully chosen words, capture no more than 1% of this experience at best, and even then very poorly. This is quite possibly the most frustrating thing about giving this account.

Across from the front of the car on the left, in almost the opposite direction to the oncoming vehicle, was a field. I suddenly became aware of a very large 'object' approaching slowly on a diagonal across this field. It was coming directly towards my car. Time was not functioning normally while this was happening, if it was functioning at all. I had the space to notice this happening, but I can’t explain how I was able to do that. The object when I first saw it, appeared to be about the size of a ten-floor tower block. It subjectively seemed to be about two or three hundred yards across the field. These size and distance descriptions are meaningless, as I’ll try to explain in a moment.

The object resembled a giant waterwheel lying on its side and rotating as it approached me and my vehicle. As it got closer, this didn’t take time, as we understand it. I saw that my first observation about its size was wildly inaccurate. It was more like the size of a small city. As it got closer still, I understood that all scale and distance estimates were meaningless. It was larger than what we think of as the world. As it approached me, I became aware of its power and significance. My mind interpreted this as being an up-close, giant-scale physical object.

Okay, now this part is particularly difficult to explain. As the object drew near to me, a kind of sensation came over my person and I knew exactly what this thing was. Not only that, but I knew everything that pertained to it, what it was, what it was doing, what it’s 'business' was with me, where and when I had seen it before, why I was seeing it now, and many many other things that I cannot now recall.

I had seen the object before I was born and I will see it again when I die. We all knew it before we were born. We will all see it when we die. But this information is eclipsed from us while we are alive. And that was why I was seeing it now in the experience, because I was in the process of dying in a fatal car crash.

Here’s what I can remember, as best it words can tell. This wheel wasn’t something that moved towards me through the world, or through reality somehow. That was an illusion that my senses were constructing for me. The wheel WAS reality, itself. It represented EVERY CONCEIVABLE POSSIBILITY for a life or for a world that could ever be envisioned or imagined. As it approached, I became aware that what we call our world was contained within it. It was simply one of the numberless slots or paddles in the 'water wheel.' It had always been so. My life, your life, our world, all of us - we were a part of this wheel structure and we had always been a part of this structure. It simply now made itself visible to me.

There then began the truly terrifying dimension of this experience. Words cannot even begin to describe the level of fear I experienced. The water wheel sort of rolled across me and then across the place where my car was in the road. As it did so, I began to be hit by each of the paddles in the wheel.

Remember that all of this is just a way of talking. It does not, and cannot, remotely describe the real situation as it actually was.

But some sense of it can be had by imagining that in the space of each 'paddle' there was a kind of spinning film of water, like a waterfall on its side. Imagine a film of water being thrown outward from the wheel in each slot, as if by centrifugal force. Imagine being slapped or splashed by each of these films as you collide with it and pass through it to the next one. This is what was happening. Except these weren’t just films of water. They were (for want of a better term) possible realities or what we might think of as universes or worlds. Again, our world, our entire universe as we normally think of it, was simply one among an infinite number of these. How did I know that there was an infinite number? I just did. A kind of knowing came with the event, and there was no doubting this knowing. It WAS so, and I knew it was so.

And because I had knowledge and understood what was happening in ways I can no longer communicate, I was afraid. I understood that I was about to be subject to the process that humans approximated with the term 'reincarnation.' This was why the wheel had come. I represented a kind of discrepancy that had to be fixed. The event, or perhaps the imminent event, on the highway had caused me to slip out of or fall between the paddles on the wheel. This structure had some kind of cosmic purpose of sorting things into their correct natural place. I was afraid and resisted being 'sorted' so the wheel stepped up its aggressive attempts to 'sort' me correctly.

With this came another understanding that frightened me even more. I knew that unless I soon selected one of these realities to slide back into, that the wheel would coerce the situation by deciding for me. One way or another, I WOULD be 'sorted' whether I liked it or not. If I didn’t choose for myself, I would simply be fitted into place at some nearest position on the wheel to the point where I failed to make the decision; if that makes sense. I was aware of having a limited ability to choose, but not much. Even that limited ability wasn’t much use because each reality slammed against me and through me before I could make much sense of what it contained.

Even I did not remain the same from one slot in the wheel to the next. It was as if when each film broke over me, I was destroyed and made again from the ground up as a completely new self. There was no continuous 'me' that traveled unaltered through that wheel and can somehow report back on this experience. This is just one of the many things that is so very hard to explain. The very idea of a continuous self was contradicted by this experience.

I have forgotten, or perhaps it was deliberately suppressed, the vast majority of what I saw in the various universes or paddles of the wheel. At the beginning, they seemed very similar to this world we inhabit, or believe ourselves to inhabit. For example, I have a floating memory of seeing various different scenarios of how the accident played out. I suspect that these were all nearby paddles on the wheel. In one of them I remember seeing what looked like my vehicle thrown right off the road and so badly damaged that it looked like it had been folded in the center like a pocket knife. I seemed to recall many other scenarios like this that I can no longer remember. To clarify: what I mean is that I seemed to file or flip through numerous conceivable (quantum?) possibilities for the outcome of the accident. I can remember doing this, but I cannot remember what any of these particular 'worlds' contained.

I have no explanation for why I failed to experience any of the phenomena usually reported with the imminent death situations like the tunnel, the light, and so on. I suspect that imminent death experiences are symbolic scenarios that flash up just as someone is entering or exiting the wheel, but before the situation has developed very far. At no stage did I see anything whatever that resembled what we humans would think of as an afterlife or spirit world or life after death realm. It’s as if we are either on the outer surface of the wheel itself, in one of its realized worlds, or else we are dead and we are the wheel itself. The wheel is a space where all uncreated possibility exists, but nothing completed or actual. And bear in mind that nothing was concealed from me. I was the ALL, and knew the ALL. I certainly don’t retain it or pretend do, but I knew it then.

I began to grow extremely panicked. Each time I thought I was just beginning to get a handle on things, I would be slapped over violently and ruthlessly into a new slot in the wheel and a whole new 'me' would crystallize, along with all the memories and assumptions that went along with that world. I remembered none of who I was just a moment ago in another paddle on the wheel. I had no memory whatsoever of where I had come from or the highway situation in my world. I had zero memory of that world. I knew I had come from a 'somewhere' but had no recollection of where that was, or even who I was. It was about the most bizarre thing that you could imagine.

Somehow though, and I can only assume that it happened without any conscious action on my part, the possibilities appearing in the wheel began to narrow down and become somewhat more familiar again. Scenarios associated with the accident began to appear once more. I say once more, but I have no real way of knowing whether this was a separate incidence of this to what I described above, or whether it was really the same incidence because time was functioning so unusually during the whole episode.

Again I saw, or seemed to see, variations or possible world-outcomes where I died in the crash. I seemed to understand intuitively that if I went 'into' any of these, I would be there for only a few moments or minutes at most, and then I would have to come out and face the wheel again almost immediately. I didn’t want to do this. But there was an odd kind of knowing associated with that too. The wheel didn’t seem bothered one way or the other. It didn’t seem to matter to it whether I emerged again in three minutes time or three decades time. All it cared about was sorting me, and there was a kind of ruthlessness to this that I will not soon forget.

I found myself back on the highway in what seemed to be a very short distance back up the road, still approaching the intersection. This is just one of the many mysteries associated with the event that I cannot explain. Did I choose a world which was a version of our universe in which the accident hadn’t quite happened yet, but was just seconds away from happening? I can’t say, because I have no memory of making that decision. I remember the look on that driver’s face as clearly as if it were yesterday. I remember him bracing back on the wheel. But I braked as I reached the intersection and that driver, or his car, were simply nowhere to be seen.


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I saw the wheel exactly as you described when I tried salvia divinorum.
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This does not match up with any of the over 30 million recorded NDE's this one stands alone and that damns it.
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Some people that have taken salvia have reported to see the same wheel.

The wheel appears in the Bible (Ezekiel) and is consistent with Buddhist accounts.
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That wheel is a throne vehicle surrounded by angels. It sounds nothing like what this guy described.
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I tried Salvia, I was turning like a wheel but only halfway and then back again. I saw a red and white candy house with a candy garden and a little lady in red and white candy clothes out in the garden and then it was over.
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OP...I have never heard of this before and this is one of the most fascinating things I have ever read. Very cool regardless of where it comes from.
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Brother, you just described my very first experience smoking DMT. My "wheel" was a room with thin pipes of colored beads running down the edge, if there even was an edge. It smelled like anesthetic when you have surgery in there. Those little beads were exactly what your paddles were. I knew everything, I understood that I had been in this "room" before and would be there again. Your story hit me so hard I would just like to validate you. I know where you went and I know what you felt and experienced because it's the same place I went. Thanks for this!
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Read and enjoy. One of the most amazing Near Death Experiences.

Experience Description
A friend persuaded me to submit this account, against my natural tendency on the matter. I have no real interest in following it up or being contacted in any way. It was a very frightening episode. It is traumatic enough, to be honest, to recall it just once at length here. But having set out to describe it, I will be as frank and as accurate as language can allow.

On the 15th July 2013, at about 7.45am, I was on my way to work and approaching the intersection and getting ready to take a left-hand turn. This is a notoriously dangerous intersection on any day, and there have been many accidents there. It is hard to see if the intersection is clear from the right and the left turn is particularly hazardous. I was running late and in a flustered state of mind. I had an important meeting that I’d been planning for carefully over a number of days, and a really stupid delay at the last minute put all of that in jeopardy. It should also be understood that a much better traffic signal system exists there today than was in place at the time of this incident.

I approached the intersection in a hurry. I looked to the right and believed that I had correctly viewed that nothing was approaching from the right, so I made the left turn. As I crossed the intersection, I glanced right once more and saw a vehicle heading straight for me at what could only have been in excess of ninety miles per hour. We saw each other. I saw the look in the other guy’s eyes because we were that close. A collision was absolutely inevitable. There is no way on this earth that it could have been avoided.

What happens next is EXTREMELY difficult to describe, but I will do my best. And this can be (and must be) taken to apply to everything that I am going to attempt to relate from this point onwards. Words, even the most carefully chosen words, capture no more than 1% of this experience at best, and even then very poorly. This is quite possibly the most frustrating thing about giving this account.

Across from the front of the car on the left, in almost the opposite direction to the oncoming vehicle, was a field. I suddenly became aware of a very large 'object' approaching slowly on a diagonal across this field. It was coming directly towards my car. Time was not functioning normally while this was happening, if it was functioning at all. I had the space to notice this happening, but I can’t explain how I was able to do that. The object when I first saw it, appeared to be about the size of a ten-floor tower block. It subjectively seemed to be about two or three hundred yards across the field. These size and distance descriptions are meaningless, as I’ll try to explain in a moment.

The object resembled a giant waterwheel lying on its side and rotating as it approached me and my vehicle. As it got closer, this didn’t take time, as we understand it. I saw that my first observation about its size was wildly inaccurate. It was more like the size of a small city. As it got closer still, I understood that all scale and distance estimates were meaningless. It was larger than what we think of as the world. As it approached me, I became aware of its power and significance. My mind interpreted this as being an up-close, giant-scale physical object.

Okay, now this part is particularly difficult to explain. As the object drew near to me, a kind of sensation came over my person and I knew exactly what this thing was. Not only that, but I knew everything that pertained to it, what it was, what it was doing, what it’s 'business' was with me, where and when I had seen it before, why I was seeing it now, and many many other things that I cannot now recall.

I had seen the object before I was born and I will see it again when I die. We all knew it before we were born. We will all see it when we die. But this information is eclipsed from us while we are alive. And that was why I was seeing it now in the experience, because I was in the process of dying in a fatal car crash.

Here’s what I can remember, as best it words can tell. This wheel wasn’t something that moved towards me through the world, or through reality somehow. That was an illusion that my senses were constructing for me. The wheel WAS reality, itself. It represented EVERY CONCEIVABLE POSSIBILITY for a life or for a world that could ever be envisioned or imagined. As it approached, I became aware that what we call our world was contained within it. It was simply one of the numberless slots or paddles in the 'water wheel.' It had always been so. My life, your life, our world, all of us - we were a part of this wheel structure and we had always been a part of this structure. It simply now made itself visible to me.

There then began the truly terrifying dimension of this experience. Words cannot even begin to describe the level of fear I experienced. The water wheel sort of rolled across me and then across the place where my car was in the road. As it did so, I began to be hit by each of the paddles in the wheel.

Remember that all of this is just a way of talking. It does not, and cannot, remotely describe the real situation as it actually was.

But some sense of it can be had by imagining that in the space of each 'paddle' there was a kind of spinning film of water, like a waterfall on its side. Imagine a film of water being thrown outward from the wheel in each slot, as if by centrifugal force. Imagine being slapped or splashed by each of these films as you collide with it and pass through it to the next one. This is what was happening. Except these weren’t just films of water. They were (for want of a better term) possible realities or what we might think of as universes or worlds. Again, our world, our entire universe as we normally think of it, was simply one among an infinite number of these. How did I know that there was an infinite number? I just did. A kind of knowing came with the event, and there was no doubting this knowing. It WAS so, and I knew it was so.

And because I had knowledge and understood what was happening in ways I can no longer communicate, I was afraid. I understood that I was about to be subject to the process that humans approximated with the term 'reincarnation.' This was why the wheel had come. I represented a kind of discrepancy that had to be fixed. The event, or perhaps the imminent event, on the highway had caused me to slip out of or fall between the paddles on the wheel. This structure had some kind of cosmic purpose of sorting things into their correct natural place. I was afraid and resisted being 'sorted' so the wheel stepped up its aggressive attempts to 'sort' me correctly.

With this came another understanding that frightened me even more. I knew that unless I soon selected one of these realities to slide back into, that the wheel would coerce the situation by deciding for me. One way or another, I WOULD be 'sorted' whether I liked it or not. If I didn’t choose for myself, I would simply be fitted into place at some nearest position on the wheel to the point where I failed to make the decision; if that makes sense. I was aware of having a limited ability to choose, but not much. Even that limited ability wasn’t much use because each reality slammed against me and through me before I could make much sense of what it contained.

Even I did not remain the same from one slot in the wheel to the next. It was as if when each film broke over me, I was destroyed and made again from the ground up as a completely new self. There was no continuous 'me' that traveled unaltered through that wheel and can somehow report back on this experience. This is just one of the many things that is so very hard to explain. The very idea of a continuous self was contradicted by this experience.

I have forgotten, or perhaps it was deliberately suppressed, the vast majority of what I saw in the various universes or paddles of the wheel. At the beginning, they seemed very similar to this world we inhabit, or believe ourselves to inhabit. For example, I have a floating memory of seeing various different scenarios of how the accident played out. I suspect that these were all nearby paddles on the wheel. In one of them I remember seeing what looked like my vehicle thrown right off the road and so badly damaged that it looked like it had been folded in the center like a pocket knife. I seemed to recall many other scenarios like this that I can no longer remember. To clarify: what I mean is that I seemed to file or flip through numerous conceivable (quantum?) possibilities for the outcome of the accident. I can remember doing this, but I cannot remember what any of these particular 'worlds' contained.

I have no explanation for why I failed to experience any of the phenomena usually reported with the imminent death situations like the tunnel, the light, and so on. I suspect that imminent death experiences are symbolic scenarios that flash up just as someone is entering or exiting the wheel, but before the situation has developed very far. At no stage did I see anything whatever that resembled what we humans would think of as an afterlife or spirit world or life after death realm. It’s as if we are either on the outer surface of the wheel itself, in one of its realized worlds, or else we are dead and we are the wheel itself. The wheel is a space where all uncreated possibility exists, but nothing completed or actual. And bear in mind that nothing was concealed from me. I was the ALL, and knew the ALL. I certainly don’t retain it or pretend do, but I knew it then.

I began to grow extremely panicked. Each time I thought I was just beginning to get a handle on things, I would be slapped over violently and ruthlessly into a new slot in the wheel and a whole new 'me' would crystallize, along with all the memories and assumptions that went along with that world. I remembered none of who I was just a moment ago in another paddle on the wheel. I had no memory whatsoever of where I had come from or the highway situation in my world. I had zero memory of that world. I knew I had come from a 'somewhere' but had no recollection of where that was, or even who I was. It was about the most bizarre thing that you could imagine.

Somehow though, and I can only assume that it happened without any conscious action on my part, the possibilities appearing in the wheel began to narrow down and become somewhat more familiar again. Scenarios associated with the accident began to appear once more. I say once more, but I have no real way of knowing whether this was a separate incidence of this to what I described above, or whether it was really the same incidence because time was functioning so unusually during the whole episode.

Again I saw, or seemed to see, variations or possible world-outcomes where I died in the crash. I seemed to understand intuitively that if I went 'into' any of these, I would be there for only a few moments or minutes at most, and then I would have to come out and face the wheel again almost immediately. I didn’t want to do this. But there was an odd kind of knowing associated with that too. The wheel didn’t seem bothered one way or the other. It didn’t seem to matter to it whether I emerged again in three minutes time or three decades time. All it cared about was sorting me, and there was a kind of ruthlessness to this that I will not soon forget.

I found myself back on the highway in what seemed to be a very short distance back up the road, still approaching the intersection. This is just one of the many mysteries associated with the event that I cannot explain. Did I choose a world which was a version of our universe in which the accident hadn’t quite happened yet, but was just seconds away from happening? I can’t say, because I have no memory of making that decision. I remember the look on that driver’s face as clearly as if it were yesterday. I remember him bracing back on the wheel. But I braked as I reached the intersection and that driver, or his car, were simply nowhere to be seen.


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I saw the wheel exactly as you described when I tried salvia divinorum.
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It is described in detail, or more precisely, in meaning, at the end of the short story "The writing of the Jaguar God" by Jorge Luis Borges. And there it is told by someone whose civilization did not use wheels.. he was transported into a reality where he knew fourteen words of power. Of course, I have done a whole thread about this elsewhere, and a very similar structure is in my possession, plus waterwheels..

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Then happened what I cannot forget or communicate. I went through union with the divinity, with the universe (I do not know if these words are different). Ecstasy does not repeat its symbols: there are those who have seen God in a shining, there are those who have perceived him in a sword or in the circles of a rose. I saw a most high Wheel, which was not in front of my eyes, or behind, or at the sides, but everywhere at one time. This Wheel was made of water, but also of fire, and it was (altough the edge was visible), infinite. Interlaced, it was made of all things that will be, that are, and that have been, and I was one of the strands of this total weave, and Pedro de Alvarado, who tortured me, was another. There were the causes and the effects, and it was enough for me to see this Wheel to understand everything, without end. Oh joy of understanding, greater than that of imagining or of feeling! I saw the universe and the intimate decisions of the universe. I see the origins told in the Book of the Common (Popol Vuh). I saw the mountains that emerged from the water, I saw the first men made of wood, I saw the jars that turned against men, I saw the dogs that destroyed their faces. I saw the faceless god that is behind the gods. I saw infinite processes that formed a single felicity, and, understanding it all, I also reached understanding of the writing on the tiger.

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Correction: "and I have a very similar structure in my possession, together with a few prayer wheels, one of which I managed to spin with falling water".

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This is indeed unusual. In my car crash I popped out of my body prior to impact and was watching the whole event from behind where I was sitting.

Having had several NDE and actually died... then revived there was an experience of perfect peace and calmness. However each NDE were different except where my consciousness floating toward the wall to pass through it.

The one time on DMT I passed through a veil into the heaven realm and could experience it in its glory and also see into the future regarding anything that was focused upon.

Don't do drugs except for that experiment.

The most profound spiritual experiences were the result of meditation.

The Wheel is totally new. What an incredible story. Do you suppose everyone is subjected to the wheel? Somehow it makes sense for most, but what about those souls from other realms/places that volunteered to come and be incarnated on earth at this time to help humanity and the planet? Perhaps the wheel exists for the unenlightened and not so much so for those who have spiritually moved beyond the cycle of reincarnation.

Definitely an amazing experience as this person was able to go back in time and recreate a new present (future)... which is possible, based on some scientific experiments I've read about.
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The above was what happened in my near death experience.

This wheel thing is very interesting and something about it feels familiar.
Like knowing something but not quite being able to recall it.
Similar to the feeling of having a word on the “tip of your tongue”.
You know that you know it and almost have it but it is just out of ones grasp.

My best guess at the “wheel” is that it is the “wheel of samsara”.
Which we all must progress enough to move beyond through many, many lifetimes of experiences and pain.
It takes suffering to get to the point where you don’t judge others and have unconditional love for all.

We are not to judge because there are things happening that we are not aware of. There are circumstances and situations that are invisible.
No one is better than anyone else. We are all one really. Separate members of the same body.

In my NDE , it was clear to me that reincarnation was very real and I learned that I, myself had lived many, many thousands of lives. I have cried rivers of tears. But I had passed beyond the wheel of samsara.

This is my last life here.

I remember that the options I had after this life were very awesome!
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In bible...Found in book of Ezekiel
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Cool story, I believe you

Id be interested in what your belief of religion or spirituality was before your wheel encounter.

That could be the deciding factor of what you see in those close moments.

Your experience dosent fit near death experience, for you were never hurt or compromised, you were just stressed and in a hurry, and this alone could send you into out-of body-mind experience.

You were thinking , wow this intersection sucks, I'm in a hurry, im crabby, whatever you were thinking, sounds as if it was an intense feeling.


My buddy recounts his near death experience where he actually was injured and dying, and when he went unconscious, eagles asked him if he wanted to go back to earth with his family, or stay in the new world he was experiencing. They also said is he chooses to go back, he had to find joy in his life or they would come and kill him, or take him back to their world, they also said to not argue with them. He chose to go back to his family, and then he awoke in the hospital.

My friend has a connection to Native American spirit wisdom, and this is why I believe he connected with those eagles.

I think the paths you choose in this world, determine what, how ,who you experience when dying

Good luck christians
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^^^^ yup - very cool, thank you !
This is the answer.

Look closer and you will see this entire painting is and all that happens within it is made of ONE cloth/ carpet/material.
We are ALL different threads of the same cloth and we are all going through different sections and are at different levels within this ONE cloth.

I can see easily now where others are and can offer a hand up to some whom are willing to accept it. Ultimately, one must find the way alone.

The answer is LOVE!
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This is indeed unusual. In my car crash I popped out of my body prior to impact and was watching the whole event from behind where I was sitting.

Having had several NDE and actually died... then revived there was an experience of perfect peace and calmness. However each NDE were different except where my consciousness floating toward the wall to pass through it.

The one time on DMT I passed through a veil into the heaven realm and could experience it in its glory and also see into the future regarding anything that was focused upon.

Don't do drugs except for that experiment.

The most profound spiritual experiences were the result of meditation.

The Wheel is totally new. What an incredible story. Do you suppose everyone is subjected to the wheel? Somehow it makes sense for most, but what about those souls from other realms/places that volunteered to come and be incarnated on earth at this time to help humanity and the planet? Perhaps the wheel exists for the unenlightened and not so much so for those who have spiritually moved beyond the cycle of reincarnation.

Definitely an amazing experience as this person was able to go back in time and recreate a new present (future)... which is possible, based on some scientific experiments I've read about.
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Maybe God gave him what he could handle because God never inflicts His reality on anyone?

The writer was a keen observer who also wrote he was, and is still, an atheist. He appears to be an authentic person although he doesn't have relationships as a priority based on what he filled out on the near death experience website.

My guess is that his approach to life had been mechanistic. Now for the rest of his life he can grapple with what he saw. God still won't inflict, so it'll be up to the writer to decide what it means to him.
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Guy gets in a car accident and sees a wheel flying....

LOLZ!

rofl5
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Reading this reminds me of a salvia trip I had, the wheels for me looked something like a windmill like you'd see in Holland. At first I saw this windmill in the field, then I became part of it. To me it seemed like I was being tossed form one wheel to another but they were all quite the same. There was also a feeling like there were creatures or beings that made up everything all spinning like I was.

When I came to I realized my whole body was vibrating, I suspect I was having a seizure but I can't know for sure. When I realized I was human again I started laughing, the rest of that day was amazing. I felt the need to go walking in the woods and spent a couple of hours just wandering around the forest behind my house.
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Guy gets in a car accident and sees a wheel flying....

LOLZ!

rofl5
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Yes it is obvious to most of us here that you have MUCH to learn and endure. No need to point it out.
But we still love you even though you are ignorant.
Work on that.
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I once had a vision during deep meditation. It startes as white light that was falling like a leaf falling from a tree, slowly going side to side as it fell down. It left turbulence of light, like the vortexes you create in water. And in those turbulences I saw the center of a wheel that was turning. As I focused on that point it began to zoom out. The center of the wheel was the obelisk in the Vatican. It zoomed out more and I could see the city of Rome with all the twisting roads. The entire city was turning as a wheel and behind it was a larger wheel but it was dark and in the shadows. It zoomed out more till it was just one big ball of light that opened up like a flower revealing a smiling human face of white light.
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Sounds like Ezekiel's Wheel from the Bible.
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Guy gets in a car accident and sees a wheel flying....

LOLZ!

rofl5
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Yes it is obvious to most of us here that you have MUCH to learn and endure. No need to point it out.
But we still love you even though you are ignorant.
Work on that.
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She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie,
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I actually have experienced it. 10 years ago.

I saw it more like a page of a book turning.

I flipped into another page. Yes is was from Salvia


Minor things are different now.


Like the color of my Grandpas curtains.

Used to be blue.. Now they're yellow.

He swears it's the same color they've always been.


I'm not gonna go into detail but.

Yes it's all true.

There are different realities.

And once you know.. You cannot unknow.

One of the things that really bugged me was the fact that my Grandma looked slightly different after turning the page. I eventually got used to it. She died of Cancer 5 years ago. But a year ago I visited my hometown and she came to me in a dream saying she had Alzheimer's. But it was the way I originally remember her looking. Only 10 years older.

Really freaked me the fuck out.
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I believe this to be very true

I do think that we move in and out of various multiple realities...I think it occurs after sleeping...sometimes daily sometimes weekly, monthly etc...dependent upon choices we’ve made and the path we are on

And the more in tune to things and aware one is, the more noticeable it is

But you have to be somewhat detached from “society” and distraction...tuned in with prayer and meditation..eating clean, fasting, living in service of others, etc...

Some can see it after using certain drugs and flipping a switch...but I can see that would be more disturbing for those who got their that way

You will notice family members/people you know will change. There faces change...sometimes their bodies. It’s not crazy intense change, but subtle changes in their faces that become very noticeable to you... very clearly another version of the person..they might have other noticeable personality changes to...and they will bounce back and forth between different versions of themselves over time. You can see it it in certain pets as well
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Are the Karma Samara Wheel and Ezekeiels Wheel same, similar or different? The wheel stories reminded me of Contact when she falls thru the Wheel then was told all the info from he 'father'.
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indeed it is reminicent of DMT "lessons"
explore Tibetan Buddhism Wheel of Life.. meditation at that level can take one to very deep and psychedelic places. the
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The flag of India has a wheel-like symbol on it. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I think Buddha was originally from India. Also, reincarnation is a big part of the Hindu faith.
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