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Three Essential Firearms For Civil Unrest | |
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| Joe in JT User ID: 75049243 United States11/08/2019 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Mossberg ...930 model... semi auto... 12 gauge. 2. AR-15 or better yet my old trusty M-16 A1 from the Marine Corp that I shot expert with 12 straight times. 3. A Ruger 9mm with a very large mag.... 17 rounds ?? These are nice to have but for now... the 12 gauge shot gun will do just fine for home protection. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76858147 United States11/08/2019 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make no mistake about it, folks. Terrorists will hit America again. There is also a serious prospect of either civil war or a Soviet-style breakup of America into nation-states in my lifetime. Indeed, it is exceedingly unlikely that America as we know it will exist when our children reach our age. If you think I am crazy, quit reading this column and return to playing your video games. The rest of the column is for those of us who live and operate in the world as it is but also prepare for drastic changes in our circumstances. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73357484 As we think specifically about which three firearms are best for dealing with large-scale civil unrest, it helps to imagine hypothetical situations. Imagine, for example, that a mob of Antifa “anti-fascists” decided to converge upon your town. In other words, imagine a typical weekend in Portland. Imagine further that the mob moved into your neighborhood and that they crossed your property line. Finally, imagine they were holding Molotov cocktails. Now entertain a question: If you were to come walking out on your front porch to defend your home and family holding one firearm with another strapped to your shoulder and a sidearm, what would those three weapons be? I’ve given this a little thought. Here are my choices: [link to townhall.com (secure)] Worry about yourself Cannuck, not freemen. |
| Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American  User ID: 73836248 United States11/08/2019 01:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not to mention... unless you have a closet dedicated to storing crates of 10mm ammo, and plan to never need to leave your home for any reason, when you run out, you won't find any laying around for miles and miles to replenish. 10mm is overkill, when 45 and even 357 is close enough and will be found everywhere. someone who gets it. Agreed. You must arm with a caliber that will be available scavenging a battlefield. No exotic calibers. The Academys will all be closed. Try carrying around 500 rounds of ammo for a few days. That's why I like 5.56. 500 rounds in an easily transportable container. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77376498 United States11/08/2019 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Israelis used the 10/22 for crowd (mob) control below the belt (IIRC). but they proved too lethal. Accurate Quiet. Enough penetration for soft targets. Never underestimate the .22LR in the hands of a good shooter. Kosovo(Bosnian?Serb? I can never keep that conflict straight) .22Lr snipers ruled "the city"(Sarajevo) with their bolt action biathlon target rifles. [link to www.thehighroad.org (secure)] Not enough lethality for cqb. where single, fight stopping shots are required; but to dissuade a mob at the perimeter.or "harassing fire"(keeping somebodies head down). .22 may be your most useful firearm. |
| Oaken Paw
It's the wood that makes it good User ID: 75276837 United States11/08/2019 01:04 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17668743 Not to mention... unless you have a closet dedicated to storing crates of 10mm ammo, and plan to never need to leave your home for any reason, when you run out, you won't find any laying around for miles and miles to replenish. 10mm is overkill, when 45 and even 357 is close enough and will be found everywhere. someone who gets it. Agreed. You must arm with a caliber that will be available scavenging a battlefield. No exotic calibers. The Academys will all be closed. Try carrying around 500 rounds of ammo for a few days. That's why I like 5.56. 500 rounds in an easily transportable container.  Everything has got to be a THING today |
| Seagull Lake
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| MING THE MERCILESS
User ID: 78008131 United States11/08/2019 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HAVE YOU FOOLS EVER HEARD OF DEW (DIRECT ENERGY WEAPONS)? THEY WILL BURN YOU IN YOUR HOUSE, CAR, ANYWHERE AND IF YOU ARE ON THE GUN OWNER LIST GUESS WHAT Quoting: MING THE MERCILESS REMEMBER PARADISE, CA. Holy fuckin stupid ass. get a grip and take your meds. DENIAL WON'T HELP YOU |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77520919 United States11/08/2019 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make no mistake about it, folks. Terrorists will hit America again. There is also a serious prospect of either civil war or a Soviet-style breakup of America into nation-states in my lifetime. Indeed, it is exceedingly unlikely that America as we know it will exist when our children reach our age. If you think I am crazy, quit reading this column and return to playing your video games. The rest of the column is for those of us who live and operate in the world as it is but also prepare for drastic changes in our circumstances. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73357484 As we think specifically about which three firearms are best for dealing with large-scale civil unrest, it helps to imagine hypothetical situations. Imagine, for example, that a mob of Antifa “anti-fascists” decided to converge upon your town. In other words, imagine a typical weekend in Portland. Imagine further that the mob moved into your neighborhood and that they crossed your property line. Finally, imagine they were holding Molotov cocktails. Now entertain a question: If you were to come walking out on your front porch to defend your home and family holding one firearm with another strapped to your shoulder and a sidearm, what would those three weapons be? I’ve given this a little thought. Here are my choices: [link to townhall.com (secure)] Remington 870, Daniel defense AR-15, Glock 17 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78051296 United States11/08/2019 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just one quick useful tidbit of info: If anyone buys an AR-15, make sure the bore supports 556. You can fire 556 & 223 out of 556, but you cannot fire 556 out of 223. It creates too much backpressure in the barrel & will eventually lead to catastrophic failure. |
| Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States11/08/2019 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just one quick useful tidbit of info: Quoting: XeroGravity If anyone buys an AR-15, make sure the bore supports 556. You can fire 556 & 223 out of 556, but you cannot fire 556 out of 223. It creates too much backpressure in the barrel & will eventually lead to catastrophic failure. That's why I like the Ruger AR-556; it's not a budget buster, it's multi-caliber and reliable, and it's made in the USA. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
| An Average American Patriot
User ID: 8547422 United States11/08/2019 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree that any person who is legally able to purchase and own a firearm SHOULD do so. However, this guy's list is serious overkill and all prone to his own bias. I love the M1A and I'd love to own one but they're incredibly expensive to buy and to shoot. Further, you shouldn't be thinking about shooting out to the effective range of a 7.62x51 rifle. You should be laying low and trying to avoid contact. But, if that's what you want to do, you can get an AR-10, in 308, 6.5 Creedmor, or any number of other calibers. You can swap out uppers on an AR-15 and get everything from a 223/5.56 to a 300 Blk to a 458 SOCOM. Or, keep it simple and get an AK variant. Next, the Benelli M4 Tactical? Great shotgun. It doesn't do anything that a Mossberg, Remington or any other tube fed shotgun wont do but for a LOT less. And, finally, the Glock 20, 10 mm hand cannon...uh, I mean handgun. Seriously? Great gun. Do you see a lot of 10 mm ammo laying around? Why not a Glock 21 in 45ACP? How about just going with a Glock 23/.40 caliber handgun? It's the chosen round of law enforcement and a lot easier to feed. Hell, though, why not any other Glock? That is, unless you want to kill a bear while you're going after the terrorists. But the biggest thing that gets me is this... "If you were to come walking out on your front porch to defend your home and family". EPIC FAIL. Why would you ever step out of your home? "I've given this a little thought." No, you haven't. You really, really haven't. Eternal vigilance Is the price of liberty. Speak out and be heard. Be seen and get noticed. Stand up and be counted. Cherish freedom. |
| DrFesterpus
User ID: 76088225 United States11/08/2019 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A single shot rifle or shotgun ....That's the only shot you would get off when the big black armored trucks pull up with two dozen SWAT team cops with full auto rifles shoots your ass off !......It won't be a John Wayne movie . Last Edited by DrFesterpus on 11/08/2019 01:23 PM DrFesterpus |
| An Average American Patriot
User ID: 8547422 United States11/08/2019 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Make no mistake about it, folks. Terrorists will hit America again. There is also a serious prospect of either civil war or a Soviet-style breakup of America into nation-states in my lifetime. Indeed, it is exceedingly unlikely that America as we know it will exist when our children reach our age. If you think I am crazy, quit reading this column and return to playing your video games. The rest of the column is for those of us who live and operate in the world as it is but also prepare for drastic changes in our circumstances. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73357484 As we think specifically about which three firearms are best for dealing with large-scale civil unrest, it helps to imagine hypothetical situations. Imagine, for example, that a mob of Antifa “anti-fascists” decided to converge upon your town. In other words, imagine a typical weekend in Portland. Imagine further that the mob moved into your neighborhood and that they crossed your property line. Finally, imagine they were holding Molotov cocktails. Now entertain a question: If you were to come walking out on your front porch to defend your home and family holding one firearm with another strapped to your shoulder and a sidearm, what would those three weapons be? I’ve given this a little thought. Here are my choices: [link to townhall.com (secure)] Remington 870, Daniel defense AR-15, Glock 17     Eternal vigilance Is the price of liberty. Speak out and be heard. Be seen and get noticed. Stand up and be counted. Cherish freedom. |
| Terrebonne
User ID: 1089348 United States11/08/2019 01:24 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Instead of the M1A 308, I'll go with the .260 Remington.  . Last Edited by Terrebonne on 11/08/2019 01:29 PM INFJ; We are the protectors. |
| An Average American Patriot
User ID: 8547422 United States11/08/2019 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A single shot rifle or shotgun ....That's the only shot you would get off when the big black armored trucks pull up with two dozen SWAT team cops with full auto rifles shoots your ass off !......It won't be a John Wayne movie . Quoting: DrFesterpus You realize that what you've outlined is actual WAR against AMERICAN citizens? If that is the case, do you think it matters if you have guns or not? No. It only matters if you want to die STANDING or just kneel and submit to the traitorous hordes that have literally taken over the country by force. If that is the case, and I can take one shot, it'll be a GOOD DEATH. Of this, I know what I speak. My own family lived in occupied territory during WWII. My grandfather was put into a prison camp and nearly starved to death. He was beaten and suffered the mental trauma to the end of his days. That isn't for me. I'll go out fighting. Eternal vigilance Is the price of liberty. Speak out and be heard. Be seen and get noticed. Stand up and be counted. Cherish freedom. |
| Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States11/08/2019 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A single shot rifle or shotgun ....That's the only shot you would get off when the big black armored trucks pull up with two dozen SWAT team cops with full auto rifles shoots your ass off !......It won't be a John Wayne movie . Quoting: DrFesterpus You realize that what you've outlined is actual WAR against AMERICAN citizens? If that is the case, do you think it matters if you have guns or not? No. It only matters if you want to die STANDING or just kneel and submit to the traitorous hordes that have literally taken over the country by force. If that is the case, and I can take one shot, it'll be a GOOD DEATH. Of this, I know what I speak. My own family lived in occupied territory during WWII. My grandfather was put into a prison camp and nearly starved to death. He was beaten and suffered the mental trauma to the end of his days. That isn't for me. I'll go out fighting.  Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
| Zoink
User ID: 12343871 United States11/08/2019 01:36 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12ga Mossberg 500, stockless. 9mm Glock 19, with 33rnd happy sticks. and the 7.62x39mm SKS. Only a 10rnder, but the lack of need for magazines makes it a good survival rifle. Can carry ammo in a bag, or on stripper clips. Its the Kalashnikov's little cousin, and has been proven to work in adverse conditions, from the cold of eastern europe's yugoslav wars, to the jungles of vietnam. It just works. But what I love most about the communist blok weaponry, is its simplicity. It was meant to be used in the hands of peasants, which make its operations simple stupid, and made with the ideal that the weapons are meant to be abused, ran dry, rusted, and muddy, yet they will still fire. [link to youtu.be (secure)] Last Edited by Zoinkaeon on 11/08/2019 01:36 PM Ash Nazg Durbatulûk, Ash Nazg Gimbatul, Ash Nazg Thrakatulûk, Agh Burzum-ishi Krimpatul |
| Q33
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| Coastie Patriot
User ID: 1567170 United States11/08/2019 01:45 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | great thread op!! Coastie Patriot SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!! Dr Thaddeus They They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth." Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake. Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.- X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that. -SHANE- Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington- to grow up remembering th My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!! Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales |
