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Genetic Study Reveals Exactly Who ‘The Romans’ Were

 
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Here may be the proof of "the sorcerers of Atlantis"
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An analysis of some of the earliest samples more or less comports with what has been found around Europe - they represent an influx of farmers primarily descended from early agriculturalists from Turkey and Iran around 8,000 years ago, followed by a shift toward ancestry from the Ukrainian steppe somewhere between 5,000 and 3,000 years ago. By the founding of Rome , traditionally dated to 753 BC, the city's population had grown in diversity and resembled modern European and Mediterranean peoples.

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following the live link 'Uktanian steppe' it reveals this:

Cossack-Sorcerers: The Secretive and Magical Warrior Society of Ukraine

Among these Cossacks who lived within the territory of the Zaporizhian Sich, there were said to be some with magic abilities, who were called the Cossack-Sorcerers. According to folklore, these were true war mages, of which legends were born.

A Claim of Aryan Descent

According to another version, the beginning of the Sorcerer class takes place among the Aryan tribes of the Bronze Age of the 2nd millennium BC, before their emigration to India from the steppes north of the Black Sea. It was alleged that among the Aryan tribes there were magic warriors, some of which went to India where they became known as Maharathi - soldiers who are capable of defending themselves alone against a large number of opponents with the help of martial arts and mystical practices. Maharathi is mentioned in the Indian epic Mahabharata. The group that remained in the steppes of the Black Sea would then have become the basis of the sorcerers.

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Many do not believe in magick even though it is mentioned within the bible.
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DNA memes, our DNA has perfect memory of ancient generations.

great thread.
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Many do not believe in magick even though it is mentioned within the bible.
 Quoting: Issac


Cossack-Sorcerers’ Special Abilities

According to the people's imagination, the Cossacks were able to find and hide treasures, to heal wounds with spells, and to evade and catch bullets. They could withstand hot-rods, change the weather and open castle doors with their bare hands. They were able to float on the floor in boats, as if on the sea, to cross the rivers on rugs (sounds pretty much like a flying carpet to me) and instantly transport themselves from one side of the steppe to another. They knew psychotherapy, understood herbalism, and also possessed the art of hypnosis.

I would replace imagination with the word memory in the above snip.
We see the same abilities becoming increasingly evident in our modern world.
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from The Cossack Sorcerers of Folk Legends and Historical Chronicles

According to the historian Svetlana Bessonova, the Sorcerers were buried face down so that the sun's rays did not touch their faces and they could not resurrect. Some people were also stabbed in the heart for the same purpose.

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Turkey was the Anatolian region of the ancient Greek city-states. The Greeks & Persians fought back & forth for centuries over the region. Great thread OP.

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Many do not believe in magick even though it is mentioned within the bible.
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It's mentioned as a warning, again and again, making clear that it is not of God, and arises from using the services of unclean spirits (dead nephilim doomed to roam the earth, aka demons).

These spirits are more than glad to lure a human soul away from God in exchange for very short-lived "powers". They will make the user pay back for their help for all of eternity.

These beings loathe humans.
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Many do not believe in magick even though it is mentioned within the bible.
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Cossack-Sorcerers’ Special Abilities

According to the people's imagination, the Cossacks were able to find and hide treasures, to heal wounds with spells, and to evade and catch bullets. They could withstand hot-rods, change the weather and open castle doors with their bare hands. They were able to float on the floor in boats, as if on the sea, to cross the rivers on rugs (sounds pretty much like a flying carpet to me) and instantly transport themselves from one side of the steppe to another. They knew psychotherapy, understood herbalism, and also possessed the art of hypnosis.

I would replace imagination with the word memory in the above snip.
We see the same abilities becoming increasingly evident in our modern world.
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We still can do those things.
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Many do not believe in magick even though it is mentioned within the bible.
 Quoting: Issac


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For those new to the subject of 'The sorcerers of Atlantis'



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Aeneas was supposed to be from Troy, Asia Minor -- modern-day Turkey.

Turns out old Virgil was right.
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Great thread, op. It's been one of those mornings...got the day off and wondering what I'm going to do at 6 am. Just made a nice comforting cup of joe and reading this subject.

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By the end of the last glacial era, around 20,000 years ago, the Black Sea – separated from the Mediterranean by an isthmus – was just a shallow lake, much smaller in size than it is today.

The legendary journey of Jason and the Argonauts, before the Trojan war, followed the Argo ship to the farther shore of Pontus Euxinus (the ‘Black Sea’) to recover the Golden Fleece – the cure for all evils – from its location in Colchis (currently in Georgia).

In Ancient Greece, steeped in mythology, the Black Sea was routinely depicted as the boundary between the known world and terra incognita.
 Quoting: today

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 Quoting: aether




black sea /z\ area
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The Gates of Alexander was a legendary barrier supposedly built by Alexander the Great in the Caucasus to keep the uncivilized barbarians of the north (typically associated with Gog and Magog) from invading the land to the south. The gates were a popular subject in medieval travel literature, starting with the Alexander Romance in a version from perhaps the 6th century.

The wall, also known as the Caspian Gates, has been identified with two locations: the Pass of Derbent, Russia or with the Pass of Dariel, west of the Caspian Sea. Tradition also connects it to the Great Wall of Gorgan (Red Snake) on its south-eastern shore.

Historically, these fortifications were part of the defence lines built by Sasanians of Persia. The Great Wall of Gorgan may have been built by the Parthians.
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we are going north
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Here may be the proof of "the sorcerers of Atlantis"
-------small snips-------

An analysis of some of the earliest samples more or less comports with what has been found around Europe - they represent an influx of farmers primarily descended from early agriculturalists from Turkey and Iran around 8,000 years ago, followed by a shift toward ancestry from the Ukrainian steppe somewhere between 5,000 and 3,000 years ago. By the founding of Rome , traditionally dated to 753 BC, the city's population had grown in diversity and resembled modern European and Mediterranean peoples.

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]

following the live link 'Uktanian steppe' it reveals this:

Cossack-Sorcerers: The Secretive and Magical Warrior Society of Ukraine

Among these Cossacks who lived within the territory of the Zaporizhian Sich, there were said to be some with magic abilities, who were called the Cossack-Sorcerers. According to folklore, these were true war mages, of which legends were born.

A Claim of Aryan Descent

According to another version, the beginning of the Sorcerer class takes place among the Aryan tribes of the Bronze Age of the 2nd millennium BC, before their emigration to India from the steppes north of the Black Sea. It was alleged that among the Aryan tribes there were magic warriors, some of which went to India where they became known as Maharathi - soldiers who are capable of defending themselves alone against a large number of opponents with the help of martial arts and mystical practices. Maharathi is mentioned in the Indian epic Mahabharata. The group that remained in the steppes of the Black Sea would then have become the basis of the sorcerers.

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]
 Quoting: Juliet


Historical fact. Ukraine never existed before 1991. This fake proxy country has been created as a pretext in case Russia again becoming a threat for NATO after fall of Soviet Union.

There is no such thing as Ukraine or Ukrainian people. Ukrainians are people of russian origin mixed with all kinds of eastern nations invading that lands in last 1000 years.

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OP: None of what you -and your video- postulate should be surprising since peoples of that period were frequently nomadic who migrated for a variety of reasons, including climate, food/water souces, warring with other tribes and even pestilence. Great cities such as Rome tended be founded in areas that were not subject to flooding or serious temperature extremes, where fertile soil or seaways were nearby... generally, desireable terrain was the strongest consideration. But "Magick" had little to do with it except that -like other pagan beliefs- they were carried along with the bodies/minds of the migrants. However, it is true that mystical symbols have always been associated with dieties and that symbology has been [and still is] incorporated into artwork and architecture. Why would it NOT have been?

Rome itself was always a polyglot of ethnicity from day one and this was one of the primary factors that made it into the great city it became. Once established, peoples from many regions migrated there for the same reasons places like NYC or London still do today: for the economic benefits of living in a large metropolis. Merchants do not become rich selling their wares in tiny burgs.

And, as Rome's governmental/military influence grew, so too did the diversity of the populace. In fact, many people don't realize that Rome itself was one of the first major TOURIST destinations. It was literally the Disney World of its time. People flocked there for the excitement of seeing where all the action/entertianment was -it was the seat of the largest government at the time and that government knew that strength came from accepting a wide variety immigrants as citizens. Even so, for many centuries only those who were born in/around the city were considered true "Romans", while technically anyone residing in a land conquered by its Legions were Roman citizens as well.

As for the Roman belief in multiple dieties is concened, this too was not unique. First the Sumerians and then the Egyptians built their cultures on polytheism and it was both of these that laid the later foundations for the Greeks, who ultimately shared common Gods with Rome; eventually, in the two cultures only the names were changed to accomodate the differing languages of Greek and Latin.

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Romanian Gypsies.
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Aeneas was supposed to be from Troy, Asia Minor -- modern-day Turkey.

Turns out old Virgil was right.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


I think you mean Homer, whose legends preceded Virgil by roughly 800 years. Of course, the true author of the Homeric legends [much like Shakespeare's plays] remains a subject of debate even today.

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References to ukrainian cossacks are also part fake. There were nomadic warriors cossacks but not ukrainian cossacks.

Ukraine is a modern word created from 2 slavic words similar in most slavic languages.

As of polish translation it goes : Ukraina - Ukradziona Kraina which stands for - stolen land

What is very accurate cause Ukraine is country made up of stolen lands from Lithuania, Poland and Russia.
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It has been found that Europeans in general are descended from ancient Middle Eastern farmers who migrated into Europe after the last ice age receded and the land became inhabitable again. The Middle East used to be looked upon as the cradle of civilization by Europeans not Africa. This out of Africa theory is a recent theory that's been debunked by science.
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Aeneas was supposed to be from Troy, Asia Minor -- modern-day Turkey.

Turns out old Virgil was right.
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I think you mean Homer, whose legends preceded Virgil by roughly 800 years. Of course, the true author of the Homeric legends [much like Shakespeare's plays] remains a subject of debate even today.
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Virgil's Aeneid -- traces the founders of Rome to the Trojans.

Homer never speaks of Rome as it did not even exist in his day.
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References to ukrainian cossacks are also part fake. There were nomadic warriors cossacks but not ukrainian cossacks.

Ukraine is a modern word created from 2 slavic words similar in most slavic languages.

As of polish translation it goes : Ukraina - Ukradziona Kraina which stands for - stolen land

What is very accurate cause Ukraine is country made up of stolen lands from Lithuania, Poland and Russia.
 Quoting: Vikini


Ok, so what does it mean when my grandfather (born 1899) said he was White Russian/Ukrainian (he died in the 70's) so what do you mean by "modern". Can't be that modern if in 1899 it was still the Ukraine. My eastern European DNA specifically shows Poland, Ukraine, Russia

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-it was the seat of the largest government at the time and that government knew that strength came from accepting a wide variety immigrants as citizens.
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lol...
An interesting interpretation.... but lets look at the results!

The thoroughly corrupt 'government' became so vile and elitist, that the great cities of the Roman Empire, including Rome herself, were completely abandoned by the populace, and the mighty Roman Empire fell.

'Grass grew in the streets of Rome', and the city was left for dead.

There are some important lines to be drawn here regarding our current cultural state-of-affairs... Yes??!!
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Putin sticks various objects in his azz...wierd stuff.

Ive seen him in Rome.
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I think all magic is just technology, it feels like
Magic when we can speak or text even see
people all over the world in an instant.
Things like that.
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Many do not believe in magick even though it is mentioned within the bible.
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Many recognize all the biblical errors and fallacies
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something happened 70,000 years ago that resulted
in the Rise of The Super Humans.
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Here may be the proof of "the sorcerers of Atlantis"
-------small snips-------

An analysis of some of the earliest samples more or less comports with what has been found around Europe - they represent an influx of farmers primarily descended from early agriculturalists from Turkey and Iran around 8,000 years ago, followed by a shift toward ancestry from the Ukrainian steppe somewhere between 5,000 and 3,000 years ago. By the founding of Rome , traditionally dated to 753 BC, the city's population had grown in diversity and resembled modern European and Mediterranean peoples.

[link to www.ancient-origins.net (secure)]

following the live link 'Uktanian steppe' it reveals this:

Cossack-Sorcerers: The Secretive and Magical Warrior Society of Ukraine

Among these Cossacks who lived within the territory of the Zaporizhian Sich, there were said to be some with magic abilities, who were called the Cossack-Sorcerers. According to folklore, these were true war mages, of which legends were born.

A Claim of Aryan Descent

According to another version, the beginning of the Sorcerer class takes place among the Aryan tribes of the Bronze Age of the 2nd millennium BC, before their emigration to India from the steppes north of the Black Sea. It was alleged that among the Aryan tribes there were magic warriors, some of which went to India where they became known as Maharathi - soldiers who are capable of defending themselves alone against a large number of opponents with the help of martial arts and mystical practices. Maharathi is mentioned in the Indian epic Mahabharata. The group that remained in the steppes of the Black Sea would then have become the basis of the sorcerers.

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 Quoting: Juliet


Historical fact. Ukraine never existed before 1991. This fake proxy country has been created as a pretext in case Russia again becoming a threat for NATO after fall of Soviet Union.

There is no such thing as Ukraine or Ukrainian people. Ukrainians are people of russian origin mixed with all kinds of eastern nations invading that lands in last 1000 years.


 Quoting: Vikini


And yet russia developed fro the Kievskii Russ.

So, Russia developed from am alreadu esxistant place that didnt exist with its own language and govenance?

So you say.

Ukraine was a democracy before the USA was established.
unfortunately for them they lived in a very desirable region that others wanted.

In truth Ukraine had established itself as an independent country in the early 20's and for two years existed before the soviets invaded.

Maybe youre confusing it with Poland never existing?
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they drank piss
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Centuries ago there was a Ukraine with it s own language, culture and history.

A certain group likes to pretend its not so, since they were hoping to turn it into their own zion along with Poland and adjacent regions.

To that end, the ones obsessed with their own false provenence mythology go on about how nobody else is valid in their own lands, since, the locust horde needs to ethnically cleanse the desired regions of the original inhabitants, so they can move in.

There is far more proof of a historic ukraine than there is of a history israel, and thats a fact.





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