Genetic Study Reveals Exactly Who ‘The Romans’ Were

You're quite welcome; it's always refreshing to share thoughts without walls of rancor binding them.

There's no denying that the United States in particular is experiencing a cultural decline. Some would claim that it is due to a moral decay while others would state it's due to social excesses -both of which also plagued Rome for centuries- but what is frequently overlooked is how fast we are spiralling downward when compared to 1,700 years ago. Whereas Rome was an ancient city that took many centuries to fully decline, our entire nation is still less than 250 years old and yet we are advancing toward self-destruction at a much faster rate. I think we can largely credit technology due to the apathy it encourages. People are being conditioned not to think... or worse, remember!

Every civilisation pays a heavy price for advancement; currently our own is the dissolution of our national borders which is resulting in a diluted personal identity for the established populace. But, the more destructive effects are more subtle: for example, the gradual corruption of language and intellect. We are witnessing all of these right now and yet many people still refuse to see the Elephant in the middle of a constantly shrinking room. Communication today is using only our opposable thumbs to tap out truncated thoughts via non-words -or worse, mere symbols- onto tiny screens. Our information is distorted before being fed to the masses via "undisputable" sources such as Wikipedia or YouTube videos or a little plastic box sitting on our desks chirping a too-cheerful, AI voice. And yet we call this "progress".

Whereas most people believe that Rome's decline was due primarily to moral decay the truth is that it was many of the above factors, and the replacement of long existing values [in Rome's case, it was most notably the forced abandonment of polytheism]- with an empirical homogeny the single greatest factor.

And you're absolutely correct in stating that today it's called the One World Order... and the concept is just as destructive now as it was then.

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For me, as I study history, the zeropoint indicator of a society's turn toward decline, is when the new ideas that are fueling progress, like Tesla's did in our modern genre, are suppressed and shut-off from all of Humanity under a variety of schemes... always 'for our own good'.
I have witnessed this personally, when a kid in my High School came up with a 75 MPG carburetor, and for a sweet 5k, a Big Oil subsidiary bought the patent and is still sitting on it today.
When the imagery of prosperity and creativity is allowed to flow, great cultures are born, and my fervent hope, is that my own Republic will survive!

I am sitting in a cabin just a few kilometres from the ancient seat of god-kings/necromant kings of bHarrad/Great Scythia/Hrobatia, the temple of nine circles. You all really have no clue. Warrior mages/shamans are mentioned as late as in the account of Pomeranians' raid on Kungalv/Konungahela in 1136AD from Icelandic historian Snorri Sturlusson.

Thank you all for your replies.Glad you find this topic interesting.


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As recently reported by the BBC, in August, 2011, a significant trove of documents from the first years of the Regal Society of London were found in the attic of a boarding house in Dover. The landlady, 73-year-old Mary Cruce, came into a windfall of almost 800,000 GBP when the papers were auctioned at Sothebys in March, 2012. Among the most surprising discoveries were a handful of verbatim transcripts of presentations on scientific topics given by individual members to the rest of the society. The practice of transcribing oral communication in such detail is otherwise unknown in early modern Europe. The presentation below, delivered by Dr. J. Smith to the Royal Society on June 24, 1686, provides a vivid example of the mundane interactions that took place within this key scientific institution, and confirms beyond any doubt the significance of Ms. Cruce's Discovery.

Tartar. A Discourse upon Tartar.

[Clears throat.]


Gentle-Men, esteem'd Members of the Society, As is well-known, the Word, Tartar, stems from the Greeke name for Hell, which is Tartaros. The Land of Tartary is so-call’d because the Savages coming therefrom are like unto so many Demons out of Hell. E’en at a great remove they reek of Sulphur and fetid Flesh. They are squat, round-faced, and wear their Hair in a single Plait a-top their Heads, call’d natively a Iuk-Tak, which, being English’d, is a sort of Dread-Lock, yea, or Terrible-Clump, which falls to the side, o’er one of the Ears, and down to the very Waist.


This Dreaded Lock is call’d lately a Polish Plait or Plica Polonica (Isaac, by the way, has inform'd me that these Words yield up many note-worthy Results in that ridiculous Search-Engine of his), as many fearsome Tartar Horsemen have lately descended upon Cracow and Vilna, and frighten’d the Christians in those parts with their infernal Odor, their craving for Horse-Blood, and most of all the fus’d Lock of Hair that falls from their Heads, that has over Time not only come together into one great Cord of Hair, but has even transform’d as ‘twere into an Organ of the Body itself, has become one with the Body, whose Blood doth now course through the very Dread-Lock as if this were but another Limb.

‘Tis said that if the Plait be sever’d from a Tartar’s Head, he will die from loss of Blood within the Hour.

Tartary lieth beyond Muscovy, and thus, we may infer, is a Land even fouler, inhabited by Men to whom the Muscovites be regular Gentle-Men by comparison. A Circassian General, whose Name escapeth me for the moment, hath truly said: Scrape a Muscovite, and you will find a Tartar under-neath, by which he intended, that Muscovy be a sort of Buffer ‘twixt the civiliz’d World and the savage

A picture of the plait:

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Larry Wolff in his book Inventing Eastern Europe: The Map of Civilization on the Mind of Enlightenment mentions that in Poland, for about a thousand years, some people wore the hair style of the Scythians.

Zygmunt Gloger in his Encyklopedia staropolska mentions that Polish plait was worn as a hair style by some people, regardless of gender, in the Pinsk region and the Masovia region at the beginning of the 19th century.


In the early 17th century, people began to believe plaits were an external symptom of an internal illness. A growing plait was supposed to take the illness "out" of the body, and therefore it was rarely cut off; in addition, the belief that a cut-off plait could avenge itself and bring an even greater illness discouraged some from attacking it. It was also believed that casting a magic spell on someone could cause that person to develop a Polish plait, hence also the name "elflock" was used in English, also Hexenzopf (witches' plait) in German.

These convictions were so widespread and strong that some people lived their whole lives with a Polish plait. A plait could sometimes grow very long – even up to 80 cm (31.5"). Polish plaits could take various forms, from a ball of hair to a long tail. Plaits were even categorized; plaits were "male" and "female", "inner" and "outer", "noble" and "fake", "proper" and "parasitical".


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In 1783, Crimea was annexed by the Russian Empire as the result of the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774). Following the Russian Revolution of 1917, Crimea became an autonomous republic within the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic in the USSR. During World War II, Crimea was downgraded to the Crimean Oblast after its entire indigenous population, the Crimean Tatars, were deported to Central Asia, an act recognized as a genocide. In 1954, it was transferred to the Ukrainian SSR from the Russian SFSR.[6]
With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine was reestablished as an independent state in 1991, and most of the peninsula was reorganized as the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, while the city of Sevastopol retained its special status within Ukraine.
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One image of the possible Egyptian connection. I've seen many Old Kingdom statues with the tail down the back

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Bust of King Amenemhat III
ca. 1859–1813 B.C.

During the Bronze Age and Iron Age many peoples in the Near East, Asia Minor, Caucasus, East Mediterranean and North Africa such as the Sumerians, Elamites, and Ancient Egyptians were depicted in art with braided or plaited hair and beards.[8][9][1

Jolanda Bos, an archaeologist working on the Amarna Project, in an article recently published in the Journal of Egyptian Archaeology.
Those skulls with brown hair often had rings or coils around their ears, a style that was popular at Amarna, she found. Why people in this city liked it is unknown. "We still have no idea. This is of course one of the answers we are still trying to find from the record," said Bos in the email.

The sidelock of youth (also called a Horus lock, Prince's lock, Princess' lock, or side braid) was an identifying characteristic of the child in Ancient Egypt. It symbolically indicates that the wearer is a legitimate heir of Osiris. The sidelock was used as a divine attribute from at least as early as the Old Kingdom.

In earlier depictions, the sidelock can be seen with short hat-like hairstyles in, for example, mortuary cults. Later it was usually attached to an almost shoulder-length wig, which was worn in three styles: curled, straight, or in tresses. Based on the connection between sidelocks and children, Egyptologists coined the term "sidelock of youth". They are worn by both mortal and divine children.[1]
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The likely connection to the Dragon Cult/Court

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funny..there are like 5 major dna analysis companies. send a sample to each one. the results will be different 5 times

I suggest that you go to the Science Daily site , get a free account, and read the study.

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I love this thread.

repost of the dragon images

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The confusion arises because our understanding of chronology is all wrong.

Even in medieval Rome, who did they have rivalry with? Florence.

Who settled Firenze/Florence? The Etruscans. Where did the Etruscans come from? Et-russia. I mean, Etruria.

The damn stilts, the piles, that Venice is built on. It is freakin Siberian pine (if memory serves, it could be another pine that grows largely in Russia, and nowhere close to Italy).

Look at the Eurasian Steppe. Many of the 'Mongols' were Slavic too!

It wasn't so much Rome vs. Florence; Italy was a collection of city-states who regularly warred with one another until the Holy See might step in to settle disputes [the papacy has always practiced divide and conquer!]... unless -of course- one of those city-states had something the Pope really wanted [even artists such as Michelangelo] and then he would simply take them for his own. The ex-communication of entire cities was not unknown and considered a grave punishment to be handed down by the all-powerful throne of St. Peter.

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Are you interested in history?

Thanks, OP!
Interesting stuff.

I missed Iran in the story.
"Aryan" means Eran, Iran. There's old maps that show this.
In Sanskrit it means "noble".

You seem to have the capability to connect the dots in this great puzzle.
What are your thoughts on this?

Busy day I guess!

Merry Christmas!

Except no where in the Bible does it say that. In fact it says the opposite, that all of us do wrong and are incapable of living a righteous life, all of us, and thus the need for divine forgiveness and salvation.