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Cryptnotic
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I think people who are Mandela effected have some personal effects that nobody else remembers. There is no residue and nobody on the Internet is talking about it.

Mine are just a few from TV and movies. I think it would be interesting to read what other people remember that is lost forever.

In the move Apollo 13 the part played by Gary Sinise was portrayed by Kevin Spacey.

In the Matrix, Will Arnett was Agent Smith and not Hugo Weaving.

I once read an article about a former child actress who was dating musician Rod Argent. When I looked him up recently, he has been married to the same woman since 1971. There is very little written about Rod Argent's personal life in general. I looked for the article, but could not find it.

The ending to an episode of 'Hogan's Heroes' changed. At the end of the episode involving Nimrod, Gruber returned to the camp after being on leave. Because of the timing of his return, I always thought he was Nimrod. Gruber now returns at the end of a different episode and the ending to the Nimrod episode is different.

My Mandela memories are some of my strongest. I always denied the change of the "of the world" part of the Queen song, yet I remember, years ago, sitting in a roller rink - listening to that song. I waited for the "of the world" part, but it didn't happen. Since this happened sometime around the 90s/2000s, I ignored it.

I remember reading the article about Sally Fields. Only the article said "Field". I ignored it, yet I have a very strong memory of reading the article.

I remember reading the above mentioned article regarding Rod Argent. I remember where I was sitting when I read it.

I remember watching Star Wars at home on DVD in the 90s or 2000s. I thought the stripes on Darth Vader's suit looked bad and I couldn't remember them being there before.

The Mandela Effect seems to be a very personalized experience. Few see the changes at the same time and some changes seem to be meant for very few people.


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The island of Sicily certainly has moved very close to mainland Italy. It WAS much further away.
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The island of Sicily certainly has moved very close to mainland Italy. It WAS much further away.
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I never paid enough attention to geography to notice too many changes. I agree with you about Sicily, though. It used to be further away.

I was looking at Italy specifically, because I wanted to do a tour of it that included Sicily.


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The island of Sicily certainly has moved very close to mainland Italy. It WAS much further away.
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I never paid enough attention to geography to notice too many changes. I agree with you about Sicily, though. It used to be further away.

I was looking at Italy specifically, because I wanted to do a tour of it that included Sicily.


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all those things were made by man therefore they can be changed to 'effect' you and society as a whole- legalize weed, opiates, caffeine advertise copious amounts you shouldn't use regularly and you become 'psychotic' 'schizo' etc- treat w/new meds and control your life more then with just propaganda on tv/cells/print- enslavement satanism death....
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i use to be a billionaire now i am poor........
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I had the Nirvana Nevermind CD, track 11 was written On a Plane.
Now it says On a Plain everywhere.

Did someone complained to the pilot?

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Can the coup be Mandela Effected too?

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I have experienced this and it can't be explained by changes in corporate or media, etc.

Changes to books I've personally owned for more than 20 years. The Bible included. I used to study both the KJV and the NIV, looking for a church that fit, but primarily settling on two. Both included lots of Bible study and camp, where as a teen, memorizing Bible verses, long ones, gave our team lots of extra points.

I'm not nor have been involved in organized religion in well over a decade, nor have I picked up any of my Bibles in that time. Such changes are now evident, it changes the context of Christianity. It is noticeably fitting a certain prevalent agenda.

I have 2 distinct timelines for being taught 51 and 50 states making up the USA, among others. Many people, the world over remember 50, 51 or 52 and I've lived in several of those countries which are highly educated, more so than and usually with better quality than most Americans. My timeline of 51 states teachings ended in 1986.

Many people remember the Challenger expolding in 1984, 1985 but also have such clear markers that I can't imagine anyone mixing up. My friend who had her only child the day it happened for her, in 1984 and saw it on TV in the hospital, for instance.

My Dad worked in the industry that, had it been his company doing the testing, would have been his project. We discussed at length a structural integrity issue, involving NDT and now all I can find is the O ring gasket getting too cold as cause of the catastrophic, national trauma. We tend to remember trauma better, also.

I've had personal MEs also, involving directional flow of the creek on my property and my husband has the same memories, but not our kids. I incidentally picked up my trustworthy compass that day, with nothing magnetic or electromagnetic in the area and the polarity flipped. North and South are reversed. Worked the day before and all days before that. I live DEEP in the wilderness. I know what is in my environment.

I should mention that I have exceptional recall and memory. I have also noticed a LOT of articles online recently that go very far to prove how bad human memory is and it's a synchronicity I don't dismiss. The articles talk about eidetic or photographic memory, some using those terms interchangeably and use presupposed on several false assumptions. All state that memory is BS.

This is long, but I'll write about my proof in another post. I believe people are being subject to a mass gaslighting campaign/manipulation of reality, it doesn't work on some and lots of articles aboud currently about how "wrong" our memories are. It's not coincidence.
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Hmmm...could be..

My wife and I turned on “Singin’ in the Rain” last night; neither of us had ever seen the whole movie. We both swore that it starred Fred Astaire and it was he who did the famous dance scene in the rain.

Nope!

Was Gene Kelly.

Major Mandela fuckery at play?
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Hmmm...could be..

My wife and I turned on “Singin’ in the Rain” last night; neither of us had ever seen the whole movie. We both swore that it starred Fred Astaire and it was he who did the famous dance scene in the rain.

Nope!

Was Gene Kelly.

Major Mandela fuckery at play?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz


I used to watch these movies - with Astaire and Kelly - a lot when I was growing up. 'Singin' in the Rain' was a favorite of mine. Gene Kelly always did those long dance numbers in the middle of the movie.

It could just be your personal Mandela Effect. I looked a little bit. I could only find one dance scene with Fred Astaire while it was raining.



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I looked at my post and need to clarify, I remember the Challenger expolding in 1986. I have photographic proof of some things, like the VW logo, Febreeze.

I have many more ME memories, but to not ramble endlessly, these things are documented in several posts across several sites and I remember mostly the non "official" timelines. I also remember several dual or triple timelines, all ending and leaving one existing to present timeline, in 1986.

The Statue of Liberty's torch was NOT closed in WW1 due to a German attack on US soil.

I'm well aquainted with geography and it has changed. I used to look at maps, atlases and globes and always knew where everything was, names, shapes, etc. I could mark each country and US states, capital cities, without names written on the maps.

Japan is farther north now.
N. Korea borders Russia now.
Mongolia is a separate country now.
Asia is much closer to Australia now, especially Papua New Guinea.
*New Zealand is closer to Australia now. (I lived in NZ)

Liechenstein used to be a tiny mountain country surrounded only by Germany.
Austria used to be farther north and didn't border Switzerland.
Sicily is almost touching Italy now, it used to be further away.
Sardinia is farther north now.
Vatican is further north now.

Tunisia is a lot closer now to Italy and its islands.
The sea between Africa and Italy occupied a greater space, than it does now.

*Denmark (I lived there) was not so close to Sweden, which now nearly touches it to the east.
Norway and Sweden were farther north from Denmark.
Helsngør, Denmark was not so close to Helsinborg, Sweden.
I went to Sweden on the ferry that route many times.

Denmark didn't arc to the east as much. I stood with one foot in the Baltic Sea and the other in the North Sea, at the very tip, in Skagen. There was more ocean between all of these countries.
I could go on about the differences, if anyone wants to hear it.

*Canada (Live here) has more than 4 provinces (I learned this in many states, moving around a lot) which I was taught in several schools and another country.
I studied it before I moved, then saw how many provinces and territories there are and initially chalked it up to redefining borders, new names for places.

Now all the differences I noticed, but figured it was map error, changing borders, making new countries, etc......It's ALL officially always been this way!

There are definitely more, but again, this is very long.

I also have vivid memories of "of the world" at the end of Queen's, "We Are the Champions". From watching Revenge of the Nerds man times, to singing along with friends and doing a lip-sync on stage for drama class. I remember music, jingles, theme songs, with perfect tempo and pitch, not to mention lyrics.
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My penis now curves to the left. I distinctly remember it curving to the right.
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We can't prove anything, but I have a real GUT FEELING that TPTB have been messing with the timelines.

Just look at the confusion, chaos and DISORDER in every society on Earth these days.

No peace, no calm, no sanity.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

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First, let me clarify that I don't doubt anyone's memories, I think if we are sure in what we remember, it's truly what you/we experienced.

I believe it's control by TPTB also and I'll tell you, I notice things people living in "civilization" do not. I noticed them when still in a big city, but I also went to lengths to shield from Wi-Fi and cell signal. I couldn't escape it entirely.

My family and I moved to the wilderness of the northern interior mountains, in British Columbia, where there is no cell signal and no cell phone towers, no internet except for those who get it by satellite. Neighbors can't see or hear each other, we're kms and mountain peaks away. Where our home is, we get no reception at all.

I don't post as often as I'd like because I have to get on the internet when I make the long trip into the next village, down forest service roads, taking a ferry and it's a pain. I can use my phone as a hot spot several kms away up the mountain, but it's only 3G or LTE, it switches. So I can't load videos, large pages.

Since living here, I noticed so many more things and in such greater and increasing amounts. I believe the constant RF and EMF and MW bombardment has something to do with this. I am also a person who is not made to easily doubt myself. I question everything and I'm always open to what I know, being subject to change. I search for the truth because there are so many lies, propaganda, science frauds.

I'm open to things, like paradigm shifts and being corrected if I see the logic and/or improvement. I'm happy to admit I'm wrong. I'm not invested in an outcome, just the truth. The truth feels different. I don't know all that's behind this phenomena, but I'm searching.

I can give you a perspective of someone who doesn't watch TV, use social media, cell phones (maybe 10 minutes every other month) or Wi-Fi, nor am I exposed to many things people in populated areas are. We eat food from the wilderness, but when not possible, we get non GMO and no glyphosate residue, truly organic food.

No vaccines for our youngest two who are overwhelmingly healthier than my adult daughter who had fewer than most and spaced farther apart than most.

There has been no industry or agricultural practices here that would contaminate our land. Fukushima and possibly chemtrails (I don't see them often up here) are the two main pollutants I can think of.

I have tried to show people these things, who do the emotional equivalent of stick their fingers in their ears and scream "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!"
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Sorry, I don't know how to put the comment I'm replying to into my post and I have precious little time.

YES it's polarizing people! Distracting them. So many thinngs going on are created, I believe, to do just that. The world is going insane.

Divide and conquer.

Doubt your memories and your very sanity, to implement a new one of their choosing and those who don't fall in line? Well, I think there's also a great awakening.

Many people, me included, have felt something big and dangerous, yet monumental for humanity, has been coming for decades and started learning to live off grid. Preppers are more commonplace now.

Their empire seems to be crumbling and they are going into fits of hysterics, pushing so many agendas. In the US freedom is so far down the toilet. It's already a surveillance and police state, a tyranny.

The Patriot Act was slipped into a bill and the hysterics on the left voted to remove the time needed to read what was being voted for. They've been spying this whole time, but now it's legal again. The old Patriot Act had sort of expired.

Precrime and gun grabs, war on religion, denial of Fukushima, withholding technology that would benefit humans and weaponizing it. Open push for pedophilia to become mainstream. Right is wrong and wrong is right. Question the narrative with real science and it devolves into name calling and ridicule. No more civil debate.

BELIEVE OR ELSE!!

A true war of good vs evil is likely on the way. People can only be pushed for so long until they push back. It's happening all over the world.
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The only person I could talk to about the ME, in real life, now has decided that it's faulty memories. I don't know it he really believes that, but he's young and he probably doesn't want to seem "nutty".

He got into it over the Berenstein Bears. That's the spelling he remembers.

I found the Mandela Effect because people who I remembered dying, were suddenly alive or died again. I started to search the Internet to see if anyone else was experiencing this.

When Louis Armstrong died - it should have been around 1978 or 79. I remember his death. When I look him up, now it says he died in 1971. No way would I have known who Louis Armstrong is in 1971.


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I know! Patrick Swayze is alive??

If you watch Bones, in the episode, "The Jewel in the Crown", Hodgins makes a snide remark to Daisy, who had been telling him the tremors he was feeling might be due to someone that passed on, trying to send him a message.

He responds,

“Look, I’m tired. My sadistic physical therapist worked me to the bone this morning, and the last thing I want to do right now is think about *Patrick Swayze* trying to send me a message!”

That was in 2016 and Patrick Swayze was already dead, from pancreatic cancer. If he were alive still, that would have been very inappropriate and really, it wouldn't have made sense.

I read in multiple places that he's still alive (as of last month) and in the hospital!

If I've seen a movie where something is said or shown, that's a reference to what I see as a new ME, I look. I got Jurassic Park finally, to see what the driver's side mirror says when the T-Rex is chasing Jeff Goldblum.

People seem to be remembering it on actual cars as either, "Objects in mirror are closer than they appear" or "Objects in mirror MAY be closer than they appear".

I remember the former. The scene was quite memorable for me because seeing that in the mirror with the T-Rex already big and closing in, was funny and Jeff Goldblum says, "Must go faster, MUST go faster!!"

He also says the same line in "Independence Day" and I always liked the reference, but must people didn't get it.

My memory works that way. I know where to find references to anything I've seen. But being so far away, it's hard to get shows and movies, or very slow anyway.

Some things I didn't pay attention to. I never heard of Chik-fil-A until moving to Utah and didn't eat there. People are saying the spelling has changed.

Lots of spelling has changed for regular words too.

Does anyone remember learning to indent new paragraphs? I haven't looked into that yet to see if it's a style change or ME.
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There was a scene in one of the later seasons of the tv show, 'Eureka'. They were going through some trials to be able to go to Titan - one of Saturn's moons. Two people were wearing jerseys. One had a 2 on it, one had a 3 on it. There was a deliberate turn to show the number "23". At the time I wondered what the significance of the number 23 was. Now the scene has changed. They are both still wearing the jerseys, but there is no longer an effort to show the number 23.
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Sometimes I imagine various realities are collapsing into each other, in some way. I'd like to believe that the conscious beings are unifying, as well, but I think it might be a highlander kinda thing. That is, of course, if the collapse idea is the explanation.
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Project Looking Glass

EBE / extraterrestrial biological entity

Is this project looking glass anything similar to the Chronovisor?


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Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

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Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] skip to 2:00 , would that be allowed in a 1970s family show ?
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Hmmm...could be..

My wife and I turned on “Singin’ in the Rain” last night; neither of us had ever seen the whole movie. We both swore that it starred Fred Astaire and it was he who did the famous dance scene in the rain.

Nope!

Was Gene Kelly.

Major Mandela fuckery at play?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] it was Gene Kelly
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Hmmm...could be..

My wife and I turned on “Singin’ in the Rain” last night; neither of us had ever seen the whole movie. We both swore that it starred Fred Astaire and it was he who did the famous dance scene in the rain.

Nope!

Was Gene Kelly.

Major Mandela fuckery at play?
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz


nope... gene kelly 100% fred was too thin for the role. Gene was far more manly and thats what the charm of it was.

but maybe...
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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] skip to 2:00 , would that be allowed in a 1970s family show ?
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thats bizarre for 70's
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I went and read up on 'Singin' in the Rain'. I was curious if Fred Astaire was even considered for the part. My theory with MEs is maybe some of the changes are what the other choice would have been. Fred was not in the running, but he was there while the movie was being filmed. Gene Kelly was a total dick to Debbie Reynolds because she didn't know how to dance. Fred found her crying under a table and offered to help her with her dancing.



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[link to www.youtube.com (secure)] skip to 2:00 , would that be allowed in a 1970s family show ?
 Quoting: Anonimous Coward


thats bizarre for 70's
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I'm guessing you've never watched Three's Company?





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