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I am building a decentralized social media tool

 
Boaty  (OP)

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11/12/2019 02:06 PM

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Would it not be easier to create a method to auto-store and retrieve details of any and all accessing a device - so it would be far easier to see where intrusion was coming from - and in that way deter it?


I have been prepared to live with intrusion and some consequences of that, but when it gets to the point hey can prevent your emails arriving - redirecting them or however they do it making them appear sent - or preventing receipt - or intercepting or not permitting out-going calls - or going into device functions to prevent their correct use etc - it is pretty demoralising.


I don't see the need for that under any circumstances.
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


It's not a firewall, anti-malware application, or intrusion detection system. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

As far as your paranoia, having worked in internet backbones as a network engineer and as a systems administrator for more than 20 years, I have never once seen or experienced anything like you're describing.

It could be within the realm of possibilities, but I have never seen it in the wild... Or even heard of it happening.
 Quoting: Boaty




The privacy I would want is from hackers who want to cause harm - not necessarily from nosy parkers - although some nosy parkers are also harmful or act with harmful intent as opposed to simple voyeurism or data collecting for stats etc - I don't know anything about coding but I understand on a basic level the type of thing you are talking about re hosting data and servers.


What I have described and more is not only within the realms of possibility - it is happening and if it happens to me it happens to others - my devices get destroyed one after another due to this behaviour.


Our stuff isn't just accessed because the data is stored somewhere - access can be very direct and I find it difficult to believe you don't understand that to the point that you would suggest I was paranoid.


If you send emails and it says sent then does not appear in your sent or draft folder - then where does it go?


If you get a response 6 months late to an email you sent and your email is dated also 6 months later - then there is an issue - so then you no longer know if your emails are being sent or received or if you are receiving what is sent to you.


Sometimes it is just a matter of them not being sent or received in "real time" or anything reasonably close to it - despite being told emails have been sent to you but they do not appear until a day or so later and so on.


I have visibly seen my bank account being MANUALLY manipulated with incorrect text and amounts and recorded this - and also my electricity account - being put into credit then massive debt - and this can only happen manually when it is repetitive and then the account backdates your data implying historic debt - which if you did not have evidence this was not correct you would be even more screwed than you ae being already.


And so on.


I know people have logged onto my devices because their location has shown up when they do it - as my location - and crimes have been committed doing this to people and stitching them up.


If you want to go to paranoid zone - when people can hook in and see your location or messages stating where you are going - they can plan to... meet you - or attempt to arrange you harm.


I do understand the pros and cons of all this type of thing and would really like platforms safe from device access - much more than I care about data collection.
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Getting back on track and answering your relevant question... The tool I'm building allows posts you WANT others to know about delivered to them. At any time you could spin up two instances of this with one being your original "account" and the second being a new test "account" on a completely different network, follow yourself and you could easily see whether or not your posts are being delivered as intended.

Furthermore, all of the posts you create are stored directly in your browser storage. If you wanted to delete everything, you can just clear your browser cache... or clear a single post, or all posts with a click of a button I will provide directly in the tool.

Of course, someone who "follows" you could scrape your posts and keep them, but that's the nature of a social network. I'll eventually create tools to block others, or maybe an invite-only system... things like that to give you 100% control over how you participate.

I have no signups, but do provide an option for filling out a profile.. if you want to.. If you don't want to, others won't know who you are but a random series of characters.. which kind of defeats the purpose of the project, being social networking.

Bottom line is when you're not online, neither are your posts. You control your data 100%, and you could check if your data is showing up as you wrote it by leaving a browser tab with the tool running open and driving down to starbucks with another computer or to the library to use theirs and find out.

Your other concerns should be in your own thread because they're off topic of this one.
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HairyBarbarian

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11/12/2019 02:19 PM
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Re: I am building a decentralized social media tool
Would it not be easier to create a method to auto-store and retrieve details of any and all accessing a device - so it would be far easier to see where intrusion was coming from - and in that way deter it?


I have been prepared to live with intrusion and some consequences of that, but when it gets to the point hey can prevent your emails arriving - redirecting them or however they do it making them appear sent - or preventing receipt - or intercepting or not permitting out-going calls - or going into device functions to prevent their correct use etc - it is pretty demoralising.


I don't see the need for that under any circumstances.
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


It's not a firewall, anti-malware application, or intrusion detection system. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

As far as your paranoia, having worked in internet backbones as a network engineer and as a systems administrator for more than 20 years, I have never once seen or experienced anything like you're describing.

It could be within the realm of possibilities, but I have never seen it in the wild... Or even heard of it happening.
 Quoting: Boaty




The privacy I would want is from hackers who want to cause harm - not necessarily from nosy parkers - although some nosy parkers are also harmful or act with harmful intent as opposed to simple voyeurism or data collecting for stats etc - I don't know anything about coding but I understand on a basic level the type of thing you are talking about re hosting data and servers.


What I have described and more is not only within the realms of possibility - it is happening and if it happens to me it happens to others - my devices get destroyed one after another due to this behaviour.


Our stuff isn't just accessed because the data is stored somewhere - access can be very direct and I find it difficult to believe you don't understand that to the point that you would suggest I was paranoid.


If you send emails and it says sent then does not appear in your sent or draft folder - then where does it go?


If you get a response 6 months late to an email you sent and your email is dated also 6 months later - then there is an issue - so then you no longer know if your emails are being sent or received or if you are receiving what is sent to you.


Sometimes it is just a matter of them not being sent or received in "real time" or anything reasonably close to it - despite being told emails have been sent to you but they do not appear until a day or so later and so on.


I have visibly seen my bank account being MANUALLY manipulated with incorrect text and amounts and recorded this - and also my electricity account - being put into credit then massive debt - and this can only happen manually when it is repetitive and then the account backdates your data implying historic debt - which if you did not have evidence this was not correct you would be even more screwed than you ae being already.


And so on.


I know people have logged onto my devices because their location has shown up when they do it - as my location - and crimes have been committed doing this to people and stitching them up.


If you want to go to paranoid zone - when people can hook in and see your location or messages stating where you are going - they can plan to... meet you - or attempt to arrange you harm.


I do understand the pros and cons of all this type of thing and would really like platforms safe from device access - much more than I care about data collection.
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Getting back on track and answering your relevant question... The tool I'm building allows posts you WANT others to know about delivered to them. At any time you could spin up two instances of this with one being your original "account" and the second being a new test "account" on a completely different network, follow yourself and you could easily see whether or not your posts are being delivered as intended.

Furthermore, all of the posts you create are stored directly in your browser storage. If you wanted to delete everything, you can just clear your browser cache... or clear a single post, or all posts with a click of a button I will provide directly in the tool.

Of course, someone who "follows" you could scrape your posts and keep them, but that's the nature of a social network. I'll eventually create tools to block others, or maybe an invite-only system... things like that to give you 100% control over how you participate.

I have no signups, but do provide an option for filling out a profile.. if you want to.. If you don't want to, others won't know who you are but a random series of characters.. which kind of defeats the purpose of the project, being social networking.

Bottom line is when you're not online, neither are your posts. You control your data 100%, and you could check if your data is showing up as you wrote it by leaving a browser tab with the tool running open and driving down to starbucks with another computer or to the library to use theirs and find out.

Your other concerns should be in your own thread because they're off topic of this one.
 Quoting: Boaty



The society app link I clicked on - I read all the pages and it just looks like next step encrypted messenger or wattsapp - I don't understand the format of your platform - other than the alternative hosting method/s.


Is it like a page where you post stuff - but it only appears when you are online? But it is a full page where you could post news snips or photos etc - like a book you keep at home but when you go online it is shared?
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11/12/2019 02:22 PM
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Re: I am building a decentralized social media tool
It sounds like you are saying while you are online using your platform your data is safe - but if someone accesses your device - then it is still open to compromise - ??
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Boaty  (OP)

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11/12/2019 02:44 PM

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It's not a firewall, anti-malware application, or intrusion detection system. So I'm not sure what you're talking about.

As far as your paranoia, having worked in internet backbones as a network engineer and as a systems administrator for more than 20 years, I have never once seen or experienced anything like you're describing.

It could be within the realm of possibilities, but I have never seen it in the wild... Or even heard of it happening.
 Quoting: Boaty




The privacy I would want is from hackers who want to cause harm - not necessarily from nosy parkers - although some nosy parkers are also harmful or act with harmful intent as opposed to simple voyeurism or data collecting for stats etc - I don't know anything about coding but I understand on a basic level the type of thing you are talking about re hosting data and servers.


What I have described and more is not only within the realms of possibility - it is happening and if it happens to me it happens to others - my devices get destroyed one after another due to this behaviour.


Our stuff isn't just accessed because the data is stored somewhere - access can be very direct and I find it difficult to believe you don't understand that to the point that you would suggest I was paranoid.


If you send emails and it says sent then does not appear in your sent or draft folder - then where does it go?


If you get a response 6 months late to an email you sent and your email is dated also 6 months later - then there is an issue - so then you no longer know if your emails are being sent or received or if you are receiving what is sent to you.


Sometimes it is just a matter of them not being sent or received in "real time" or anything reasonably close to it - despite being told emails have been sent to you but they do not appear until a day or so later and so on.


I have visibly seen my bank account being MANUALLY manipulated with incorrect text and amounts and recorded this - and also my electricity account - being put into credit then massive debt - and this can only happen manually when it is repetitive and then the account backdates your data implying historic debt - which if you did not have evidence this was not correct you would be even more screwed than you ae being already.


And so on.


I know people have logged onto my devices because their location has shown up when they do it - as my location - and crimes have been committed doing this to people and stitching them up.


If you want to go to paranoid zone - when people can hook in and see your location or messages stating where you are going - they can plan to... meet you - or attempt to arrange you harm.


I do understand the pros and cons of all this type of thing and would really like platforms safe from device access - much more than I care about data collection.
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Getting back on track and answering your relevant question... The tool I'm building allows posts you WANT others to know about delivered to them. At any time you could spin up two instances of this with one being your original "account" and the second being a new test "account" on a completely different network, follow yourself and you could easily see whether or not your posts are being delivered as intended.

Furthermore, all of the posts you create are stored directly in your browser storage. If you wanted to delete everything, you can just clear your browser cache... or clear a single post, or all posts with a click of a button I will provide directly in the tool.

Of course, someone who "follows" you could scrape your posts and keep them, but that's the nature of a social network. I'll eventually create tools to block others, or maybe an invite-only system... things like that to give you 100% control over how you participate.

I have no signups, but do provide an option for filling out a profile.. if you want to.. If you don't want to, others won't know who you are but a random series of characters.. which kind of defeats the purpose of the project, being social networking.

Bottom line is when you're not online, neither are your posts. You control your data 100%, and you could check if your data is showing up as you wrote it by leaving a browser tab with the tool running open and driving down to starbucks with another computer or to the library to use theirs and find out.

Your other concerns should be in your own thread because they're off topic of this one.
 Quoting: Boaty



The society app link I clicked on - I read all the pages and it just looks like next step encrypted messenger or wattsapp - I don't understand the format of your platform - other than the alternative hosting method/s.


Is it like a page where you post stuff - but it only appears when you are online? But it is a full page where you could post news snips or photos etc - like a book you keep at home but when you go online it is shared?
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Yeah, it could be used that way... I could even make a "go offline" button.

Not sure what "society app" is.
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Boaty  (OP)

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Re: I am building a decentralized social media tool
It sounds like you are saying while you are online using your platform your data is safe - but if someone accesses your device - then it is still open to compromise - ??
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Isn't this true for virtually every technology?
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Thoughts do not come from you nor God; you do not create thoughts; you are not your thoughts; every thought is a lie.
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Boaty  (OP)

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11/12/2019 02:47 PM

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The privacy I would want is from hackers who want to cause harm - not necessarily from nosy parkers - although some nosy parkers are also harmful or act with harmful intent as opposed to simple voyeurism or data collecting for stats etc - I don't know anything about coding but I understand on a basic level the type of thing you are talking about re hosting data and servers.


What I have described and more is not only within the realms of possibility - it is happening and if it happens to me it happens to others - my devices get destroyed one after another due to this behaviour.


Our stuff isn't just accessed because the data is stored somewhere - access can be very direct and I find it difficult to believe you don't understand that to the point that you would suggest I was paranoid.


If you send emails and it says sent then does not appear in your sent or draft folder - then where does it go?


If you get a response 6 months late to an email you sent and your email is dated also 6 months later - then there is an issue - so then you no longer know if your emails are being sent or received or if you are receiving what is sent to you.


Sometimes it is just a matter of them not being sent or received in "real time" or anything reasonably close to it - despite being told emails have been sent to you but they do not appear until a day or so later and so on.


I have visibly seen my bank account being MANUALLY manipulated with incorrect text and amounts and recorded this - and also my electricity account - being put into credit then massive debt - and this can only happen manually when it is repetitive and then the account backdates your data implying historic debt - which if you did not have evidence this was not correct you would be even more screwed than you ae being already.


And so on.


I know people have logged onto my devices because their location has shown up when they do it - as my location - and crimes have been committed doing this to people and stitching them up.


If you want to go to paranoid zone - when people can hook in and see your location or messages stating where you are going - they can plan to... meet you - or attempt to arrange you harm.


I do understand the pros and cons of all this type of thing and would really like platforms safe from device access - much more than I care about data collection.
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Getting back on track and answering your relevant question... The tool I'm building allows posts you WANT others to know about delivered to them. At any time you could spin up two instances of this with one being your original "account" and the second being a new test "account" on a completely different network, follow yourself and you could easily see whether or not your posts are being delivered as intended.

Furthermore, all of the posts you create are stored directly in your browser storage. If you wanted to delete everything, you can just clear your browser cache... or clear a single post, or all posts with a click of a button I will provide directly in the tool.

Of course, someone who "follows" you could scrape your posts and keep them, but that's the nature of a social network. I'll eventually create tools to block others, or maybe an invite-only system... things like that to give you 100% control over how you participate.

I have no signups, but do provide an option for filling out a profile.. if you want to.. If you don't want to, others won't know who you are but a random series of characters.. which kind of defeats the purpose of the project, being social networking.

Bottom line is when you're not online, neither are your posts. You control your data 100%, and you could check if your data is showing up as you wrote it by leaving a browser tab with the tool running open and driving down to starbucks with another computer or to the library to use theirs and find out.

Your other concerns should be in your own thread because they're off topic of this one.
 Quoting: Boaty



The society app link I clicked on - I read all the pages and it just looks like next step encrypted messenger or wattsapp - I don't understand the format of your platform - other than the alternative hosting method/s.


Is it like a page where you post stuff - but it only appears when you are online? But it is a full page where you could post news snips or photos etc - like a book you keep at home but when you go online it is shared?
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Yeah, it could be used that way... I could even make a "go offline" button.

Not sure what "society app" is.
 Quoting: Boaty


Oh, this platform removes the middle man who normally stores your data and can censor you... Think Facebook, Twitter, Youtube... etc. Virtually every social media tool has control over your data because you give it to them. If they don't like you or what you have to say, then can turn you off. Mine get's rid of the central "authority" who can decide what you can or cant say.
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Re: I am building a decentralized social media tool
Note to the mods: I'm not promoting this tool via this post. I don't want to compete with GLP. I simply want to discuss what I'm working on and its possibilities.

I have been thinking about and tinkering with all kinds of web technologies that might enable a truly decentralized social media platform ever since I first heard about people being "de-platformed" because of wrongthink several years ago.

Since that time, a few players have shown up who claim they are decentralized, but it's not true. They all rely on some central point of failure. Whether that be some cloud service like Amazon Web Services or Azure, or depend on a single domain name/DNS provider/CDN, like Cloudflare or some other webhost.... These approaches always showed the major flaw.

How can someone build a tool that is truly decentralized while still depending on big tech players?

The answer is simple. Take the middle man out entirely and go 100% decentralized with P2P. By that, I mean get rid of domain names. Get rid of hosting providers. Get rid of centrally managed storage.

How am I doing it? WebRTC and WebTorrent. Those are the main clues I'll give you. But I'm not going to give away all the secrets before I have a working model that I'm ready to release into the wild....

Feel free to ask any other questions.. .
 Quoting: Boaty


They will trap you or target you.


This is my story from living and working in Antwerpen.






I regret it now it's happening to me.

We met the wrong people in a local church community. We ended up in their program following people. All end well and we thought they were terrorists. Little did we know we were creating them. Most follow Jesus some follow other religions but an ideology is mandatory in the program. I am now stalked and my life is in danger.

What I did was only the most simple job they told me it was nothing and I was lucky to get away with only a simple job unlike others who were into terrible atrocities.

My job was on the route to my work to honk at certain locations where Targets live every day - every other day. I had 10 locations on my route. I think other drivers using different routes crossing my target houses had to do the same thing. This was in the morning whhen.. most people are asleep...
Boaty  (OP)

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11/12/2019 02:53 PM

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Re: I am building a decentralized social media tool
Note to the mods: I'm not promoting this tool via this post. I don't want to compete with GLP. I simply want to discuss what I'm working on and its possibilities.

I have been thinking about and tinkering with all kinds of web technologies that might enable a truly decentralized social media platform ever since I first heard about people being "de-platformed" because of wrongthink several years ago.

Since that time, a few players have shown up who claim they are decentralized, but it's not true. They all rely on some central point of failure. Whether that be some cloud service like Amazon Web Services or Azure, or depend on a single domain name/DNS provider/CDN, like Cloudflare or some other webhost.... These approaches always showed the major flaw.

How can someone build a tool that is truly decentralized while still depending on big tech players?

The answer is simple. Take the middle man out entirely and go 100% decentralized with P2P. By that, I mean get rid of domain names. Get rid of hosting providers. Get rid of centrally managed storage.

How am I doing it? WebRTC and WebTorrent. Those are the main clues I'll give you. But I'm not going to give away all the secrets before I have a working model that I'm ready to release into the wild....

Feel free to ask any other questions.. .
 Quoting: Boaty


They will trap you or target you.


This is my story from living and working in Antwerpen.






I regret it now it's happening to me.

We met the wrong people in a local church community. We ended up in their program following people. All end well and we thought they were terrorists. Little did we know we were creating them. Most follow Jesus some follow other religions but an ideology is mandatory in the program. I am now stalked and my life is in danger.

What I did was only the most simple job they told me it was nothing and I was lucky to get away with only a simple job unlike others who were into terrible atrocities.

My job was on the route to my work to honk at certain locations where Targets live every day - every other day. I had 10 locations on my route. I think other drivers using different routes crossing my target houses had to do the same thing. This was in the morning whhen.. most people are asleep...
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It sounds like you are saying while you are online using your platform your data is safe - but if someone accesses your device - then it is still open to compromise - ??
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Isn't this true for virtually every technology?
 Quoting: Boaty



Ok - so your main focus then is re: censorship and legality.



I am currently about to be censored for using a nickname on fb on an account I have maintained for a decade - very extensive - and very easy to see it is genuine or to check that it is - so this to me is in fact big bullying - so I am not going to bow to it and am interested in seeking another style of platform which isn't so stupid or controlling.


Nice to know people are working on it.


hf
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Re: I am building a decentralized social media tool
Note to the mods: I'm not promoting this tool via this post. I don't want to compete with GLP. I simply want to discuss what I'm working on and its possibilities.

I have been thinking about and tinkering with all kinds of web technologies that might enable a truly decentralized social media platform ever since I first heard about people being "de-platformed" because of wrongthink several years ago.

Since that time, a few players have shown up who claim they are decentralized, but it's not true. They all rely on some central point of failure. Whether that be some cloud service like Amazon Web Services or Azure, or depend on a single domain name/DNS provider/CDN, like Cloudflare or some other webhost.... These approaches always showed the major flaw.

How can someone build a tool that is truly decentralized while still depending on big tech players?

The answer is simple. Take the middle man out entirely and go 100% decentralized with P2P. By that, I mean get rid of domain names. Get rid of hosting providers. Get rid of centrally managed storage.

How am I doing it? WebRTC and WebTorrent. Those are the main clues I'll give you. But I'm not going to give away all the secrets before I have a working model that I'm ready to release into the wild....

Feel free to ask any other questions.. .
 Quoting: Boaty


They will trap you or target you.


This is my story from living and working in Antwerpen.






I regret it now it's happening to me.

We met the wrong people in a local church community. We ended up in their program following people. All end well and we thought they were terrorists. Little did we know we were creating them. Most follow Jesus some follow other religions but an ideology is mandatory in the program. I am now stalked and my life is in danger.

What I did was only the most simple job they told me it was nothing and I was lucky to get away with only a simple job unlike others who were into terrible atrocities.

My job was on the route to my work to honk at certain locations where Targets live every day - every other day. I had 10 locations on my route. I think other drivers using different routes crossing my target houses had to do the same thing. This was in the morning whhen.. most people are asleep...
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SaganWhat
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I love this meme <3
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Re: I am building a decentralized social media tool
Note to the mods: I'm not promoting this tool via this post. I don't want to compete with GLP. I simply want to discuss what I'm working on and its possibilities.

I have been thinking about and tinkering with all kinds of web technologies that might enable a truly decentralized social media platform ever since I first heard about people being "de-platformed" because of wrongthink several years ago.

Since that time, a few players have shown up who claim they are decentralized, but it's not true. They all rely on some central point of failure. Whether that be some cloud service like Amazon Web Services or Azure, or depend on a single domain name/DNS provider/CDN, like Cloudflare or some other webhost.... These approaches always showed the major flaw.

How can someone build a tool that is truly decentralized while still depending on big tech players?

The answer is simple. Take the middle man out entirely and go 100% decentralized with P2P. By that, I mean get rid of domain names. Get rid of hosting providers. Get rid of centrally managed storage.

How am I doing it? WebRTC and WebTorrent. Those are the main clues I'll give you. But I'm not going to give away all the secrets before I have a working model that I'm ready to release into the wild....

Feel free to ask any other questions.. .
 Quoting: Boaty


They will trap you or target you.


This is my story from living and working in Antwerpen.






I regret it now it's happening to me.

We met the wrong people in a local church community. We ended up in their program following people. All end well and we thought they were terrorists. Little did we know we were creating them. Most follow Jesus some follow other religions but an ideology is mandatory in the program. I am now stalked and my life is in danger.

What I did was only the most simple job they told me it was nothing and I was lucky to get away with only a simple job unlike others who were into terrible atrocities.

My job was on the route to my work to honk at certain locations where Targets live every day - every other day. I had 10 locations on my route. I think other drivers using different routes crossing my target houses had to do the same thing. This was in the morning whhen.. most people are asleep...
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I believe you.
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Whatever floats your boat.

I'm more concerned about the coming age of no electricity.
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It sounds like you are saying while you are online using your platform your data is safe - but if someone accesses your device - then it is still open to compromise - ??
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Isn't this true for virtually every technology?
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Ok - so your main focus then is re: censorship and legality.



I am currently about to be censored for using a nickname on fb on an account I have maintained for a decade - very extensive - and very easy to see it is genuine or to check that it is - so this to me is in fact big bullying - so I am not going to bow to it and am interested in seeking another style of platform which isn't so stupid or controlling.


Nice to know people are working on it.


hf
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Exactly... Although I probably won't be the one who accomplishes this, I want to see the gatekeepers and controllers toppled.

So, I'm doing my small part... Once I have a 100% working alpha product, I'm shipping it to github where anyone will be able to fork it and adapt it however they would like... Hopefully someone smarter than me who can make this thing go to the moon.

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It sounds like you are saying while you are online using your platform your data is safe - but if someone accesses your device - then it is still open to compromise - ??
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Isn't this true for virtually every technology?
 Quoting: Boaty



Ok - so your main focus then is re: censorship and legality.



I am currently about to be censored for using a nickname on fb on an account I have maintained for a decade - very extensive - and very easy to see it is genuine or to check that it is - so this to me is in fact big bullying - so I am not going to bow to it and am interested in seeking another style of platform which isn't so stupid or controlling.


Nice to know people are working on it.


hf
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian


Exactly... Although I probably won't be the one who accomplishes this, I want to see the gatekeepers and controllers toppled.

So, I'm doing my small part... Once I have a 100% working alpha product, I'm shipping it to github where anyone will be able to fork it and adapt it however they would like... Hopefully someone smarter than me who can make this thing go to the moon.
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Well done - it's great that you have a cool project you're working on and I am sure it will be fab.



xx
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11/13/2019 04:20 AM
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Webtorrent is used only for the initial connection. P2P means you are connected directly to your "followers" and those you follow. It has nothing to do with file sharing.

It's pure html and javascript. There are no plugins or extensions.
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The first part still turns me off. No one should know when I'm online or off, including friends and followers. I'd have no interest in a service connecting me to anyone. What if one of my followers turns out to be a criminal? I don't want to be caught up with that.

The second part sounds better, but I browse with scripts off unless it's necessary to get a job done. Too much bad scripting in the world, a lot of it for tracking and unwanted multimedia content.
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Nobody's interested in this idea?

BTW - it's not just an idea... It's already working.
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Of course we are interested. Can this work on mobile devices too?
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Another thing. ... where does the data live when my followers and I are offline? I clear my browser between uses. Assume others do too.

Without a central location for the data, messages I send to followers before going offline would just stop existing.

All the things people share on socials, oictures, poems, videos, music, poof gone, once all the members of a group follow are offline at the same time.

Unless.... it lives on in non-followers browsers. Meaning strangers are storing data as intermediaries until I or my followers pop back online.

That's back to file sharing, essentially. And the risk that some one uploads illegal pictures or files and it gets stored on innocent people's browsers/ computers.

Eventually all that stored data is going to take up a lot of space, too.

Without a place to centrally store it, it's gonna be a problem.

Even USENET had to be stored and mirrored.

IRC had to be hosted.


Social media by its nature has to be hosted somewhere.

Unless you just mean to make a messaging service, not a social.
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11/13/2019 11:00 AM

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Nobody's interested in this idea?

BTW - it's not just an idea... It's already working.
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Of course we are interested. Can this work on mobile devices too?
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Yes, but storage space is more limited on mobile.
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Boaty  (OP)

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Another thing. ... where does the data live when my followers and I are offline? I clear my browser between uses. Assume others do too.

Without a central location for the data, messages I send to followers before going offline would just stop existing.

All the things people share on socials, oictures, poems, videos, music, poof gone, once all the members of a group follow are offline at the same time.

Unless.... it lives on in non-followers browsers. Meaning strangers are storing data as intermediaries until I or my followers pop back online.

That's back to file sharing, essentially. And the risk that some one uploads illegal pictures or files and it gets stored on innocent people's browsers/ computers.

Eventually all that stored data is going to take up a lot of space, too.

Without a place to centrally store it, it's gonna be a problem.

Even USENET had to be stored and mirrored.

IRC had to be hosted.


Social media by its nature has to be hosted somewhere.

Unless you just mean to make a messaging service, not a social.
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If you clear your browser, you lose your content and no-one else will see it.
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Check out this video on what is PeerTube on PeerTube
[link to peertube.social (secure)]
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How will you get people to think it's "cool" enough to use? Who wants to be part of a social media unless the cool people use it?
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No such as a cool dweeb
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