‘Brain death’ is a medical fiction invented to harvest organs from living people: expert | |
Giselle22
User ID: 77853077 United States 11/14/2019 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Body is kept alive to harvest the organs as needed& body still needs pain killers. Makes no sense about brain death. Read the accounts of people waking up. Just a way to harvest young fresh organs. Worry not, they don't want our organs. Only under 30 years old at best. Plus transplanting organs seems like a real insult to our creator, as many things in the medical industry. Make sure your designated medical advocate is aware of this. No apnea test, total bamboozle. Pick a strong person. Long video, play at twice the speed. Highlights of video... 113:58 VACCINE LIST WITH product name/manufacturer/FETAL CELL LINE. Ethically reason to avoid vaccines. |
Giselle22
User ID: 77853077 United States 11/14/2019 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thread already explores this BRAIN DEATH BAMBOOZLE. [facebook rip] Quoting: Citizenperth Prior to 1968 a person was declared dead only after their breathing and heart stopped for a determinate period of time. The current terminology "Brain Death" was unheard of. When surgeons realized they had the capability of taking organs from one seemingly “close to death” person and implanting them into another person to keep the recipient alive longer, a "Pandora’s Box" was opened. In the beginning, through trial and error, they discovered it was not possible to perform this "miraculous" ‪#‎surgery‬ with organs taken from someone truly dead, even if the donor was without circulation for merely a few minutes, because organ damage occurs within a very brief time after circulation stops. To justify their experimental procedures it was necessary for them to come up with a solution which is how the term "‪#‎BrainDeath‬" was contrived. Much is being done to get your organs. For an organ to be suitable for ‪#‎transplantation‬ it must be healthy and it must come from a living person. Once DBD (Donation After Brain Death) or DCD (Donation After Cardiac Death) has been verified and permission extracted from distraught family members (in cases where relatives cannot be located the ‪#‎government‬ often now makes the determination on our behalf) the "organ donor" undergoes hours, sometimes days, of torturous treatment utilized to protect and preserve the body-container of "spare parts!" The "organ donor" is forced to endure the excruciating painful and ongoing chemical treatment in preparation for organ excising. Literally the "donor" is now an organ warehouse and used for the sole purpose of organ preservation until a compatible recipient can be located. Donation after circulatory death (DCD) can be performed on neurologically intact donors who do not fulfill neurologic or brain death criteria before circulatory arrest. This commentary focuses on the most controversial donor-related issues anticipated from mandatory implementation of DCD for imminent or cardiac death in ‪#‎hospitals‬ across the USA. The truth of the horrific treatment and DEATH OF THE "DONOR" Organ removal is performed while the patient is given only a paralyzing agent but no anesthetic! Multi-organ excision, on the average, takes three to four hours of operating during which time the heart is beating, the blood pressure is normal and respiration is occurring albeit the patient is on a ventilator. Each organ is cut out until finally the beating heart is stopped, a moment before removal. It is well documented the heart rate and blood pressure go up when the incision is made. This is the very response the anesthesiologist often observes in everyday surgery when the anesthetic is insufficient. But, as stated below, organ donors are not anesthetized. There are growing numbers of protesters among ‪#‎nurses‬ and ‪#‎anesthesiologists‬, who react strongly to the movements of the supposed "corpse." These movements are sometimes so violent it makes it impossible to continue the taking of organs. Resulting from their personal experiences and attestations, many in the medical profession have removed themselves from this program altogether. New York hospitals are routinely 'harvesting' organs from patients before they're even dead, an explosive ‪#‎lawsuit‬ is claiming. The suit accuses transplant non-profit The New York Organ Donor Network of bullying doctors into declaring patients brain dead when they are still alive. Plaintiff, Patrick McMahon, 50, reckons one in five ‪#‎patients‬ are showing signs of brain activity when surgeons declare them dead and start hacking out their body parts. 'They're playing God,' said McMahon, a former transplant coordinator who claims he was fired just four months into the role for speaking out about the practice. He said that the donor network makes 'millions and millions' from selling the organs they obtain to hospitals and to insurance companies for transplants. 'Hearts, lungs, kidneys, joints, bones, skin grafts, intestines, valves, eyes -- it's all big money.' The Air Force Combat veteran and former nurse added that financially strained hospitals are easily influenced to declare a patient brain dead because they're keen to free up bed space. The lawsuit, filed in Manhattan Supreme Court in 2012, cites a 19-year-old car crash victim who was still struggling to breathe and showing signs of brain activity when doctors gave the green light for his organs to be harvested. Network officials including director Michael Goldstein allegedly bullied Nassau University Medical Center staff into declaring the teen dead, stating during a conference call: 'This kid is dead, you got that?' But McMahon said he believed the 19-year-old could have recovered. The lawsuit cites three other examples of patients who were still clinging to life when doctors gave a 'note' - an official declaration by a hospital that a patient is brain dead, which, as well as consent from next of kin, is required before a transplant can take place. The suit claims that a man was admitted to Kings County Hospital in Brooklyn, a month later, again showing brain activity. It claims McMahon protested but was blown off by hospital and donor network staff, and the man was declared brain dead and his organs harvested. In November 2011, a woman admitted to Staten Island University Hospital after a drug overdose was declared brain dead and her organs were about to be harvested when McMahon noticed that she was being given 'a paralyzing anesthetic' because her body was still jerking. 'She was having brain function when they were cutting into her on the table,' McMahon told MailOnline. 'He had given her a paralyser and there's no reason to give someone who is dead a paralyser.' He said he confronted the person who gave it to her and he was speechless. 'Finally he said he was told to do it because while they were cutting her chest open she was moving her chest around. And a paralyzer only paralyses you, it does nothing for the pain,' he said. McMahon added that surgeons 'took everything' with regards to body parts. 'They took her eyes, her joints. She was right there when I was having the conversation. They were inserting the plastic bones where the real ones had been.' According to the lawsuit, when McMahon probed further on the disturbing case another network employee told hospital staff he was 'an untrained troublemaker with a history of raising frivolous issues and questions.' McMahon added that staff members who collect the most organs throughout the year qualify for a Christmas bonus. 'If counselors do well by getting a lot of organs they are given a bonus in December,' he said. The veteran - who worked at the donor network between July and November - said there are about 30-40 staff who are out in the field, going to hospitals and trying to get signatures and donations. Estimated U.S. Average Billed Charges Per Transplant: Heart $1,000,000 Double Lung: $800,000 Liver: $580,000 Kidney: $275,000 More than 123,000 people are on waiting lists for organ transplants in the United States, 100,000 of whom are waiting for new kidneys. Yet the need for healthy organs far outpaces donations. Only 28,000 transplants were completed in the last year, according to the 2014 national data from the U.S. Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network. Because organ donors are often alive when their organs are harvested, the ‪#‎medical‬ community should not require donors to be declared dead, but instead adopt more “honest” moral criteria that allow the harvesting of organs from “dying” or “severely injured” patients, with proper consent, three leading experts have argued. This approach, they say, would avoid the “pseudo-objective” claim that a donor is “really dead,” which is often based upon purely ideological definitions of death designed to expand the organ donor pool, and would allow organ harvesters to be more honest with the public, as well as ensure that donors don’t feel pain during the harvesting process. The chilling comments were offered by ‪#‎Doctor‬ Neil Lazar, director of the medical-surgical intensive care unit at Toronto General Hospital, Dr. Maxwell J. Smith of the University of Toronto, and David Rodriguez-Arias of Universidad del Pais Vasco in Spain, at a U.S. bioethics conference in October and published in a recent paper in the American Journal of Bioethics. “Because there is a general assumption that dead individuals cannot be harmed, veneration of the dead-donor rule is dangerously misleading,” they write. “Ultimately, what is important for the protection and respect of potential donors is not to have a death certificate signed, but rather to be certain they are beyond suffering and to guarantee that their autonomy is respected.” Instead of the so-called Dead Donor Rule (DDR), the authors propose that donors should be “protected from harm” (i.e given anesthesia so that they cannot feel pain during the donation process), that informed consent should be obtained, and that society should be “fully informed of the inherently debatable nature of any criterion to declare death.” The doctors note that developing the criteria for so-called “brain death,” which is often used by doctors to declare death before organ donation, was an “ideological strategy” aimed at increasing the donor pool that has been found to be “empirically and theoretically flawed.” They also criticize the latest attempts to create new, even looser definitions of death, such as circulatory death, which they argue amount to simply “pretending” that the patient is dead in order to get his organs. Based on an interview in 2013 with Dr. Paul Byrne, 80-year-old neonatologist blowing the whistle on the dark side of hospitals, it became clear that the concept of "brain death" is a complete fabrication conjured up for the sole purpose of legitimizing the murder of living people in order to harvest their organs. These people (who often end up in hospitals as a result of car accidents or drug overdoses or the like) are given paralysis drugs during organ removal -- BUT NO ANESTHESIA!!! Medical staff are literally cleaving open the chests of these innocent people and tearing out their organs, one by one, leaving the heart for last, after which point they are, of course, dead. It's wakey wakey time people.This is no joke. If you do not want to be tortured to death by medical sadists, SAY NO TO ORGAN DONATION! Evil is still evil by any other name. A special thanks to Sandra Tsai for making us aware of pending lawsuits & information. 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Captain Casey Jones
User ID: 77319351 United States 11/14/2019 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been through this with my father following an auto accident thus suffering brain death from a hematoma. In the ICU they take multiple EEGs for several days prior to stopping additional intervention to confirm brain death. |
Giselle22
User ID: 77853077 United States 11/14/2019 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just REFUSING ORGAN DONATION on your driver's license is NOT ENOUGH. Must carry with your driver's license a LEGAL DOCUMENTED REFUSAL. Legal documented refusal in link below. [link to lifeguardianfoundation.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78134286 United Kingdom 11/14/2019 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Human Transplantation (Wales) Act 2013 It permits an opt-out system of organ donation, known as presumed consent, or deemed concent. The act allows hospitals to presume that people aged 18 or over, who have been resident in Wales for over 12 months, want to donate their organs at their death, unless they have objected specifically. England The law around organ donation is changing in England. This means that from spring 2020, all adults in England will be considered an organ donor when they die unless they had recorded a decision not to donate or are in one of the excluded groups. This is commonly referred to as an 'opt out' system. |
Loup Garou
User ID: 31702506 United States 11/14/2019 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The nature of man is often very dark. God save us from ourselves. Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78166843 United States 11/14/2019 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the more learnered they become, the more evil thats your a typical uni degree candidate, messed up morons who now belief they got their ticket called degree and can do what they want burn the universities down, they only deliver evil onto this world |
Halfing
User ID: 76753321 Hungary 11/14/2019 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have read recently about a doctor who fell in coma himself and scraped by being vivisected only by a hair. His colleagues determined his brian was not working and beyond any hope to function again. Then he came back. Being on the business end of the organ harvesting changed his views about the whole dead-or-not-dead issue. |
stillhere
User ID: 72031485 United States 11/14/2019 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently got a new drivers license and had the "organ Donor" removed. Just saw the new movie "Last Christmas" which I enjoyed, but it did have a side gay couple and promoted the idea of organ transplants. What is happening in China with organ transplants from live people is horrific. Protect your loved ones, only the family should make these decisions, and they need to be informed. "You can bend it and twist it... You can misuse and abuse it... But even God cannot change the Truth.” Michael Levy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48741721 United States 11/14/2019 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78166739 United States 11/14/2019 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I come from a family where most people are or were in the medical profession (myself being an exception). 20+ years ago my relatives were lamenting how corrupt & evil the entire industry was becoming - and this corrupting influence is entirely a top-down process. Quoting: XeroGravity Sadly, all critics of our corrupted medical philosophy are being silenced. Were that not so I'd likely have heard this sooner. Organ harvesting for profit is already a thing in communist-run countries - it's only logical that this evil has become mainstream in the US. No joke people are lab rats to them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76061227 United States 11/14/2019 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In many countries nowadays, authorities will declare your child brain dead and live organ harvest your child as state property. I remember a few cases in England. Quoting: Weyoun Counties own the bodies in the USA, they issue the receipts for delivery at birth, and the certificate of return at death. Upon which all valued resources remaining are harvested. Side note: The Count on seasame street has a qurious look to him, eh? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77480655 United States 11/14/2019 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cannibalisation - is it any wonder why so many hospitals are Roman Catholic Church owned, they feast on human flesh, preferably that of children, free range and fresh at their prime, they are also practising vampires and quaff on human blood, the process of organ excision produces adrenochrome in the human victim, because they are alive and conscious of the process, of the human blood sacrifice, it is a ritual in its most basic form, a vile and putrid practise by the high priesthoods of this world. |
Giselle22
User ID: 77853077 United States 11/14/2019 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | REFUSAL FOR ORGAN DONATION MUST BE DOCUMENTED. Upon registering at the DMV your verbal decline, stating "no" when asked whether or not you wish to be an organ donor, is not honored. According to the language of the law, Revised Anatomical Gift Act (2006), you must “opt-out,” documenting your "refusal" in writing using "explicit language," otherwise, it is "presumed" that you have consented to be an organ donor to be utilized for the purpose of "organ transplantation, education and research.. [link to www.lifeguardianfoundation.org] Actionable solutions below... 1. On your driver's license...you are NOT AN ORGAN DONOR. 2. LEGAL DOCUMENT you carry with your driver's license. Link below. [link to lifeguardianfoundation.org] 3.MEDICAL POWER OF ATTORNEY DOCUMENT & medical directive & medical representative to KNOW in writing you do not want to donate your organs. If you have not documented, then by absence of such a document... YOUR ORGANS WILL BE A GIFT. Uniform Anatomical Gift Act, ever heard of this? Link below. LIST OF ALL 50 STATES OF United States INCLUDED. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States 11/14/2019 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's real. I see brain dead fuckers at work every day. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76950059 United States 11/14/2019 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did you ever wonder if movies were telling us what they are doing so that they can continue to do it... BINGO! Want proof? The Boys from Brazil = The truth about Hitler escaping to South America Capricorn One = The truth about the fake moon landing Network = The truth about who really run the world, including state sponsored television and propaganda Conspiracy Theory = To make fun of conspiracy folks at a time when it was becoming popular, with the rise of Art Bell, the Internet, Bill Cooper and so on. Alex Jones is the actor they placed to make conspiracy folks look wacky. I could go on and on and make a list 50 to 100 movies long. The real reason they put it out there for all to see is... in case somebody stumbles on the truth they can simply point to the movie and say, "Oh you saw this in a movie before, you're just crazy". Here TV too... TONS OF IT. They hide it in plain sight with those movies made specifically to give the conspirators the needed plausible denial and necessary C-T accusations on the diligent researchers/witnesses. They cover their bases and employ Plan Bs and Plan Cs.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77315416 United States 11/14/2019 04:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The language in the manuscript-drafts of the Harvard report is thus overtly explicit with regard to the connection between organ donation and the “birth” of “brain death.” In other words, the real reason why the Harvard Committee redefined irreversible coma as death (and gave it a new name, “brain death”) is for a two-fold purpose: (i) to have fresh, viable organs more readily available for the transplantation enterprise, and (ii) at the same time, to avoid any public outcry that transplant surgeons were organ-stealing killers. In the final draft which became the Harvard report, the explicitly utilitarian language in the earlier drafts was toned down by Ebert (then the dean of the Harvard Medical School), in order to make it seem that transplantation was not the primary cause of the “birth” of “brain death.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77315416 United States 11/14/2019 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why can't patients make a living will request to sell their organs with the money going to their family or assigned heir? Hospitals and middlemen making multi-millions off of your loved ones body parts- that's why I never signed an organ donor card, you will be drooled over if you ever find yourself unconsious in a hospital bed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77351373 United States 11/14/2019 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the worst is with us.... Quoting: CitizenPerth to extract organs the body needs to be alive. so 'you', technically are alive... they inject paralyzing agents, BUT, because 'YOU', are dead, they, in most cases DO NOT administer pain relief. so many reported cases by non-primary in the room stating that they could see sweat, eye movement, and fear related/ pain related movement in the body's being harvested... indeed, some countries (as we know), don't care at all for that little fact... organ transfers are a gift, but not at the sacrifice for another death, torture, and pain.... all about the money..... Oh wow. I'm an old hand at CR & alternative theories, but this is a new revelation to me. I always took the brain death concept at face value. I'll be changing my status away from organ donor on my license. Disturbing stuff. The moment they make the incision to begin harvesting, there's a blood pressure spike, indicating patient feels pain. |
Gorgol
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BadProgBad
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Judethz
User ID: 75895360 United Kingdom 11/14/2019 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the worst is with us.... Quoting: CitizenPerth to extract organs the body needs to be alive. so 'you', technically are alive... they inject paralyzing agents, BUT, because 'YOU', are dead, they, in most cases DO NOT administer pain relief. so many reported cases by non-primary in the room stating that they could see sweat, eye movement, and fear related/ pain related movement in the body's being harvested... indeed, some countries (as we know), don't care at all for that little fact... organ transfers are a gift, but not at the sacrifice for another death, torture, and pain.... all about the money..... Hi CitizenPerth nice to see you back again. Yes I've known this for a few years now, it seems like this evil is becoming even more widespread. |
BadProgBad
User ID: 77286845 United States 11/14/2019 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76831239 United States 11/14/2019 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the worst is with us.... Quoting: CitizenPerth to extract organs the body needs to be alive. so 'you', technically are alive... they inject paralyzing agents, BUT, because 'YOU', are dead, they, in most cases DO NOT administer pain relief. so many reported cases by non-primary in the room stating that they could see sweat, eye movement, and fear related/ pain related movement in the body's being harvested... indeed, some countries (as we know), don't care at all for that little fact... organ transfers are a gift, but not at the sacrifice for another death, torture, and pain.... all about the money..... Oh wow. I'm an old hand at CR & alternative theories, but this is a new revelation to me. I always took the brain death concept at face value. I'll be changing my status away from organ donor on my license. Disturbing stuff. Well that didn’t take much convincing....I happen to know for a fact that not giving me all your money is bad luck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13412379 United States 11/14/2019 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is, of course different than being in a persistent vegitative state and coma. |
deplorable scottfree
User ID: 71466386 United States 11/14/2019 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the worst is with us.... Quoting: CitizenPerth to extract organs the body needs to be alive. so 'you', technically are alive... they inject paralyzing agents, BUT, because 'YOU', are dead, they, in most cases DO NOT administer pain relief. so many reported cases by non-primary in the room stating that they could see sweat, eye movement, and fear related/ pain related movement in the body's being harvested... indeed, some countries (as we know), don't care at all for that little fact... organ transfers are a gift, but not at the sacrifice for another death, torture, and pain.... all about the money..... Was gonna say much the same... just that we don't harvest (what a word to use.. reminds me of They Live) organs from dead people. The body must still be alive. I've heard the stories too... freaky shit!! J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil. Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76831239 United States 11/14/2019 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw a dead relative that had been harvested Quoting: Gorgol Her eyes were not closed well and swollen Then it occurred to me as to why sucks When your brain swells from encephalopathy, like from severe anoxia associated with heart attack or stroke, it will push the eyes out, then they can’t close.....is that what you were thinking? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77420690 United States 11/14/2019 05:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | shows how evil this world is... all fulfillment of endtime prophecy [link to contendingforthefaithblog.wordpress.com (secure)] [link to contendingforthefaithblog.wordpress.com (secure)] |
girlie45
User ID: 76604177 United States 11/14/2019 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 20-year-old niece was a victim of a hit and run driver in 2012. She was an organ donor. They air flighted her to the hospital, rushed her into surgery, where it was determined there was nothing that could be done. Her main heart valve was damaged and the internal bleeding supposedly too bad, in addition, they declared her brain dead. My brother in law told me that she was talking and making noise before surgery- and that after being declared brain dead she was warm, pink and looked like a healthy person -- other than the wounds from being hit by a car. She could not communicate at all at this point. They likely had her in a coma. He told her goodbye and they took her into surgery again to take her organs. I believe she could have possibly been saved, she may have had a rough recovery, she had a fractured pelvis. She was fairly banged up, but I will always believe they did not really try hard enough to save her once they realized they had a young person that donated her organs. There were no stories of the lives she saved- just nothing. I believe someone profited off of her - and we lost her b/c of it. This does happen. I believe it in my soul. |