‘Brain death’ is a medical fiction invented to harvest organs from living people: expert | |
deplorable scottfree
User ID: 71466386 United States 11/14/2019 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the more learnered they become, the more evil Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78166843 thats your a typical uni degree candidate, messed up morons who now belief they got their ticket called degree and can do what they want burn the universities down, they only deliver evil onto this world Thinking themselves wise they became fools. J 17:15: "I pray not that Thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that Thou shouldst keep them from the evil. Truth, beauty and virtue ... all the things that THEY hate. All the things God loves. |
Gorgol
User ID: 73273097 Netherlands 11/14/2019 05:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw a dead relative that had been harvested Quoting: Gorgol Her eyes were not closed well and swollen Then it occurred to me as to why sucks When your brain swells from encephalopathy, like from severe anoxia associated with heart attack or stroke, it will push the eyes out, then they can’t close.....is that what you were thinking? Nope, she was 'euthanised' from the cancer pain Big fat shot of morphine and off to the cutting table is what I was thinking I saw more marking from the cutting table than that Tháts where she actually died, while undergoing the procedure under morphine Gorgol -No Jab, No Jitter |
thats the facts jack User ID: 77589388 United States 11/14/2019 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Coma is NOT the definition of brain death it involves Respiratory Apnea lack of brainstem reflexes There are criteria, and being in a coma is not near the criteria. As someone who has particpated in organ procurement I know for a fact that no normal medical professional would harvest organs from someone simply in a coma. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78167327 United States 11/14/2019 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
JumboBucks
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Evangelina
User ID: 68493341 United States 11/14/2019 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the worst is with us.... Quoting: CitizenPerth to extract organs the body needs to be alive. so 'you', technically are alive... they inject paralyzing agents, BUT, because 'YOU', are dead, they, in most cases DO NOT administer pain relief. so many reported cases by non-primary in the room stating that they could see sweat, eye movement, and fear related/ pain related movement in the body's being harvested... indeed, some countries (as we know), don't care at all for that little fact... organ transfers are a gift, but not at the sacrifice for another death, torture, and pain.... all about the money..... You say there is no God.. but I KNOW there is, experience will "Trump" theory every time ~ Evangelina It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the Greatness of God TRUTH has Nothing to do with the Number of People Who are Convinced of it. Silence in the face of evil is itself evil; God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Dietrich Bonhoeffer NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL EVER PERSUADE AN IDIOT ~~ MARK TWAIN |
darkwolf007
User ID: 77447940 United States 11/14/2019 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the worst is with us.... Quoting: CitizenPerth to extract organs the body needs to be alive. so 'you', technically are alive... they inject paralyzing agents, BUT, because 'YOU', are dead, they, in most cases DO NOT administer pain relief. so many reported cases by non-primary in the room stating that they could see sweat, eye movement, and fear related/ pain related movement in the body's being harvested... indeed, some countries (as we know), don't care at all for that little fact... organ transfers are a gift, but not at the sacrifice for another death, torture, and pain.... all about the money..... Good effin' God! So the entire American Medical Industry has been completely Corrupt since the late 1960's then. Wow... I did not see that coming. From what I've heard from various former coma patients say over the years online is they can hear and feel everything, but can not act nor do anything else but lay there as though they are in fact dead. So what you described, OP, would be a fate one would not want to wish upon their worst enemy or enemies. To feel your organs being cut out and/or ripped out of you in every way possible and to feel the effects of your missing organs before you ultimately expire from the lack of your important organs is a great crime against Humanity as far as I am concerned. Since we're talking about the willful murder of "brain dead" comatose patients, OP, one of my sisters who has been trained in the American Medical Industry told me a long while back that hospice care is literally death care. Hospice apparently originating from Obamacare. So yeah... everything is so incomprehensibly Corrupted in the American Medical Industry. This is all jaw dropping new news to me too. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
doglikeRoRuctions
User ID: 77755257 United States 11/14/2019 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the worst is with us.... Quoting: CitizenPerth to extract organs the body needs to be alive. so 'you', technically are alive... they inject paralyzing agents, BUT, because 'YOU', are dead, they, in most cases DO NOT administer pain relief. so many reported cases by non-primary in the room stating that they could see sweat, eye movement, and fear related/ pain related movement in the body's being harvested... indeed, some countries (as we know), don't care at all for that little fact... organ transfers are a gift, but not at the sacrifice for another death, torture, and pain.... all about the money..... There are hospitals in the US that are corrupt. Greed allows for the unthinkable to happen. This is one among 100's of reasons not to leave a loves one alone in the hospital. I have not slept for days in two cases and it really pissed off a number of hospital staff. And I was nothing but love and kindness and doing what I could to help. Nurses are great people but they only have to get to one or two to make it happen. doglikeRoRuctions |
Jewlz
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darkwolf007
User ID: 77447940 United States 11/14/2019 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the more learnered they become, the more evil Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78166843 thats your a typical uni degree candidate, messed up morons who now belief they got their ticket called degree and can do what they want burn the universities down, they only deliver evil onto this world Thinking themselves wise they became fools. Then the fools denounced everyone else who sought the same or similar knowledge, but instead of going the original learned people's route, the other people became truly wise. Looks and sounds as though we must absolutely go back to the Stone Age of everything just to save Humanity from itself... or let Humanity destroy itself and let the Earth heal itself without Humanity in the picture. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
gray lady User ID: 77590476 United States 11/14/2019 08:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I, personally, Know a person who was riding a bicycle and hit by a car. For at least a month, he was in a coma and the doctors kept asking his parents to let them pull the plug. They repeated said no. Doctors said that no one could survive the brain swelling and accelerated heart rate he had intermittently. Well, he did survive. He has some vision problems and partial taste and smell absence but otherwise, he still runs, rides his bike. Mountain climbs. He was in great shape and although the doctors stated in the rare case he survived he would be a vegetable, they wanted his organs and harassed his parents practically on a daily basis. He lives independently and enjoys life. A local police officer was shot recently and the news reports said his injuries were not survivable, same hospital ad my friend was in. Well, they took the police man's organs and now he is dead. Each to their own, but I am not and will never will be an organ donor. Need to check into that additional document that you might need to prevent organ harvesting. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 11/14/2019 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
CitizenPerth
(OP) User ID: 78167981 Australia 11/14/2019 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Heart doesn't need the Brain to function. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044 it works from the autonomic nervous system, which is in the torso. think of it this way then... how long for, and how much pain do you think you would feel if your liver etc, were removed if you felt it, but couldn't scream...? would you wish that on yourself or a loved one? indeed, anyone? Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 11/14/2019 10:36 PM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
darkwolf007
User ID: 72624935 United States 11/15/2019 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the Heart doesn't need the Brain to function. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044 it works from the autonomic nervous system, which is in the torso. think of it this way then... how long for, and how much pain do you think you would feel if your liver etc, were removed if you felt it, but couldn't scream...? would you wish that on yourself or a loved one? indeed, anyone? Not I, OP. If you can remember any of your past lives's physical deaths especially the gory and/or excruciating deaths then yeah you can definitely relate to these "brain-dead" organ harvested victims with amazing ease. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
BadProgBad
User ID: 77472181 United States 11/16/2019 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 20-year-old niece was a victim of a hit and run driver in 2012. She was an organ donor. They air flighted her to the hospital, rushed her into surgery, where it was determined there was nothing that could be done. Her main heart valve was damaged and the internal bleeding supposedly too bad, in addition, they declared her brain dead. Quoting: girlie45 My brother in law told me that she was talking and making noise before surgery- and that after being declared brain dead she was warm, pink and looked like a healthy person -- other than the wounds from being hit by a car. She could not communicate at all at this point. They likely had her in a coma. He told her goodbye and they took her into surgery again to take her organs. I believe she could have possibly been saved, she may have had a rough recovery, she had a fractured pelvis. She was fairly banged up, but I will always believe they did not really try hard enough to save her once they realized they had a young person that donated her organs. There were no stories of the lives she saved- just nothing. I believe someone profited off of her - and we lost her b/c of it. This does happen. I believe it in my soul. =,,( All enemies, foreign and domestic. |
BadProgBad
User ID: 77472181 United States 11/16/2019 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Coma is NOT the definition of brain death Quoting: thats the facts jack 77589388 it involves Respiratory Apnea lack of brainstem reflexes There are criteria, and being in a coma is not near the criteria. As someone who has particpated in organ procurement I know for a fact that no normal medical professional would harvest organs from someone simply in a coma. Another piece of shit who lies to his fellow man. All enemies, foreign and domestic. |
darkwolf007
User ID: 77447940 United States 11/16/2019 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 20-year-old niece was a victim of a hit and run driver in 2012. She was an organ donor. They air flighted her to the hospital, rushed her into surgery, where it was determined there was nothing that could be done. Her main heart valve was damaged and the internal bleeding supposedly too bad, in addition, they declared her brain dead. Quoting: girlie45 My brother in law told me that she was talking and making noise before surgery- and that after being declared brain dead she was warm, pink and looked like a healthy person -- other than the wounds from being hit by a car. She could not communicate at all at this point. They likely had her in a coma. He told her goodbye and they took her into surgery again to take her organs. I believe she could have possibly been saved, she may have had a rough recovery, she had a fractured pelvis. She was fairly banged up, but I will always believe they did not really try hard enough to save her once they realized they had a young person that donated her organs. There were no stories of the lives she saved- just nothing. I believe someone profited off of her - and we lost her b/c of it. This does happen. I believe it in my soul. =,,( Dang... that sucks, girlie45. Now that Obamacare allowed hospice care(death care) to even exist in America doctors are alot more brazen at murder and lots of other abuses. All afforded by the barbaric Islamic law known as the Affordable Healthcare Act. Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker. A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him, saying, 'You are mad; you are not like us." -- St. Anthony The Great Social Credit Loser here. |
Giselle22
User ID: 77853077 United States 11/18/2019 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | HERE IS THE additional document that you might need to prevent organ harvesting. Just REFUSING ORGAN DONATION on your driver's license is NOT ENOUGH. Must carry with your driver's license a LEGAL DOCUMENTED REFUSAL. Legal documented refusal in link below. [link to lifeguardianfoundation.org (secure)] |
Giselle22
User ID: 77853077 United States 11/18/2019 07:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ACTIONABLE STEPS BELOW. PLEASE FOLLOW THROUGH. If not documented properly, then default is UNIFORM ANATOMICAL GIFT ACT. REFUSAL FOR ORGAN DONATION MUST BE DOCUMENTED. Quoting: Giselle22 Upon registering at the DMV your verbal decline, stating "no" when asked whether or not you wish to be an organ donor, is not honored. According to the language of the law, Revised Anatomical Gift Act (2006), you must “opt-out,” documenting your "refusal" in writing using "explicit language," otherwise, it is "presumed" that you have consented to be an organ donor to be utilized for the purpose of "organ transplantation, education and research.. [link to www.lifeguardianfoundation.org] Actionable solutions below... 1. On your driver's license...you are NOT AN ORGAN DONOR. 2. LEGAL DOCUMENT you carry with your driver's license. Link below. [link to lifeguardianfoundation.org] 3.MEDICAL POWER OF ATTORNEY DOCUMENT & medical directive & medical representative to KNOW in writing you do not want to donate your organs. If you have not documented, then by absence of such a document... YOUR ORGANS WILL BE A GIFT. Uniform Anatomical Gift Act, ever heard of this? Link below. LIST OF ALL 50 STATES OF United States INCLUDED. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |