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Noah - The Ark and the Flood - Evidence Proof Bible History

 
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no, there isnt any proof..







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There's obviously been many, many giant floods of many sizes all across the world. But the "worldwide" one according to some was caused by us acquiring our moon, which some seem to think wasn't millions of years ago but during human history.
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Noah is incorrect. Long before Mosis learned mythology from the Egyptians, there was Utnapishtim's ark and flood epic.

Long before the Chaldeans rose from the ashes of Sumer there was Ziusudra's ark and flood epic.

And before that there was another. The names of the original players are lost to time. The essence of the story is similar only in aspects.
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Sorry - I disagree with your assessment.

There's no PROOF that the Sumerian stories predate the Torah / Moses.

NO ONE can PROVE that Moses did NOT write most of the Torah. It can only be proven that he didn't FINISH it as the last chapter & verse has Moses' death and burial by God.

The clay tablets merely proof what the Sumerians believed at a specific point in time. Ancient artifacts like the Sumerian tablets do NOT prove that the "original" story, as the Bible tells us, is a copy of something else.

They do NOT prove "origin of story".
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Noah is incorrect. Long before Mosis learned mythology from the Egyptians, there was Utnapishtim's ark and flood epic.

Long before the Chaldeans rose from the ashes of Sumer there was Ziusudra's ark and flood epic.

And before that there was another. The names of the original players are lost to time. The essence of the story is similar only in aspects.
 Quoting: Jungleboogie


Sorry - I disagree with your assessment.

There's no PROOF that the Sumerian stories predate the Torah / Moses.

NO ONE can PROVE that Moses did NOT write most of the Torah. It can only be proven that he didn't FINISH it as the last chapter & verse has Moses' death and burial by God.

The clay tablets merely proof what the Sumerians believed at a specific point in time. Ancient artifacts like the Sumerian tablets do NOT prove that the "original" story, as the Bible tells us, is a copy of something else.

They do NOT prove "origin of story".
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Logically, there is also no proof of the converse, that the Bible is original in it's account.


You risk looking illogical by favor of a confirmation bias.

Do you want to make important decisions in your life based on confirmation bias, or do you wish to remain objective? If so, you must settle with the notion that there is no certainty in either direction and both options are on the table.

A loving God would understand the situation and appreciate the desire for truth.
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Sorry - I disagree with your assessment.

There's no PROOF that the Sumerian stories predate the Torah / Moses.

NO ONE can PROVE that Moses did NOT write most of the Torah. It can only be proven that he didn't FINISH it as the last chapter & verse has Moses' death and burial by God.

The clay tablets merely proof what the Sumerians believed at a specific point in time. Ancient artifacts like the Sumerian tablets do NOT prove that the "original" story, as the Bible tells us, is a copy of something else.

They do NOT prove "origin of story".
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Logically, there is also no proof of the converse, that the Bible is original in it's account.

You risk looking illogical by favor of a confirmation bias.

Do you want to make important decisions in your life based on confirmation bias, or do you wish to remain objective? If so, you must settle with the notion that there is no certainty in either direction and both options are on the table.

A loving God would understand the situation and appreciate the desire for truth.
 Quoting: The_Meridian


1.Yet there is evidence for the Exodus. Saudi Arabia is just now opening the area up to tourism, and one of the guys involved is also one to the latest to have sneaked into the Exodus area.

Thread: Updated - New Videos / Evidence of the Biblical Exodus in Saudi Arabia - Hebrews / Mt Sinai More

2. Funny how these areas of Sodom & Gomorrah have been left untested for the last 50 years or so.

Thread: Sodom Gomorrah Admah - Video & Photographic Evidence of Biblical Destruction Brimstone

Confirmation bias?

In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES any of the vast majority of events in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.

Here's a 191 page free PDF of Biblical Archaeological finds.

[link to www.israelite.net]

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Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

Apparent lack of evidence doesn't prove non-existence.

"Concensus of scholars" isn't "proof of fact".

As I said, there's no PROOF that the Sumerian stories predate the Torah.

With the evidence of the Exodus, Sodom & Gomorrah and hundreds of other Biblical places, I'll stick with the Bible's version being correct until there is concrete evidence against it.

But I know that won't happen.
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1.Yet there is evidence for the Exodus. Saudi Arabia is just now opening the area up to tourism, and one of the guys involved is also one to the latest to have sneaked into the Exodus area.

Thread: Updated - New Videos / Evidence of the Biblical Exodus in Saudi Arabia - Hebrews / Mt Sinai More

2. Funny how these areas of Sodom & Gomorrah have been left untested for the last 50 years or so.

Thread: Sodom Gomorrah Admah - Video & Photographic Evidence of Biblical Destruction Brimstone

Confirmation bias?

In reality, there is not one single shred of evidence OF ANY KIND that actually DISPROVES any of the vast majority of events in the Bible.

Dozens of people AND hundreds of places mentioned in the Bible have been proven to exist.

Here's a 191 page free PDF of Biblical Archaeological finds.

[link to www.israelite.net]

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Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

Apparent lack of evidence doesn't prove non-existence.

"Concensus of scholars" isn't "proof of fact".

As I said, there's no PROOF that the Sumerian stories predate the Torah.

With the evidence of the Exodus, Sodom & Gomorrah and hundreds of other Biblical places, I'll stick with the Bible's version being correct until there is concrete evidence against it.

But I know that won't happen.
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Proven locations do not back fantastic claims.

Logic.

Sumeria, Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Phoenicia...even Troy and other places have proven themselves, thus making them real places. Therefore if someone is writing a "Bible" it would be logical to include real places that are known.

By your logic, the discovery of the remains of the Raman empire off the Western coast of India PROVE to your satisfaction that Krishna and the Bhagavad Gita are true as written.

You can't have it both ways, unless you simply state that you are irrational, illogical and stand by that as your methodology.

Confirmation Bias, as I said. You like "Bible" therefore "Bible" is true. You do not like Bhagavad Gita, therefore Bhagavad Gita is false.

Do you argue that the Bhagavad Gita is a work of "The Devil (TM)"?
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The ark did not have to carry all the animals. It was an advanced civilization that saved all the genetic info and survived with it during the global catalachism around 9600 bc.
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Evidence, evidence, evidence.
Geological records are categoric: there was not a flood, ever.
It's completely impossible to cramp all species in one single boat
Even if it was, one single couple of animals of each species IS NOT enough for survivability.
Plus the logistics of it. It would be hard to do it today with all modern transportation.

Is it really so hard to just use a tiny bit of logic and conclude it to be simply a myth? Your conviction of a myth is making you blind and the tough part for you is that deep down, you know it.
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All the other nations of the world all talked about building huge boats as well to survive.

You think God would limit it to one tiny demographic of people?

They all bult boats..and all saved their LOCAL species.
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All the other nations of the world all talked about building huge boats as well to survive.

You think God would limit it to one tiny demographic of people?

They all bult boats..and all saved their LOCAL species.
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Correct. The Bible is a family album. It doesn't say anything about people outside of the family.
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All the other nations of the world all talked about building huge boats as well to survive.

You think God would limit it to one tiny demographic of people?

They all bult boats..and all saved their LOCAL species.
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Correct. The Bible is a family album. It doesn't say anything about people outside of the family.
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I'm Christian; but I have to agree with this point.

The Bible is the story of the Jewish People.

It does not include India (which was a major civilization)
" " China
-OR-
Most of Africa
North America
Europe
South America
Australia
The Pacific Islands
Antarctica
Russia

Yep, the Bible only tells the story of the Middle East.
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Proven locations do not back fantastic claims.

Logic.

Sumeria, Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Phoenicia...even Troy and other places have proven themselves, thus making them real places. Therefore if someone is writing a "Bible" it would be logical to include real places that are known.

By your logic, the discovery of the remains of the Raman empire off the Western coast of India PROVE to your satisfaction that Krishna and the Bhagavad Gita are true as written.

You can't have it both ways, unless you simply state that you are irrational, illogical and stand by that as your methodology.

Confirmation Bias, as I said. You like "Bible" therefore "Bible" is true. You do not like Bhagavad Gita, therefore Bhagavad Gita is false.

Do you argue that the Bhagavad Gita is a work of "The Devil (TM)"?
 Quoting: The_Meridian

Logic?

Comparing the hundreds of sites mentioned in the Bible to the single group of remains off India's coast is apples to oranges.

Sorry - this topic isn't about the validity of the Bible and what it says.

You've had your "say" on the matter, and I refuse to argue with you anymore about it in this topic.

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All the other nations of the world all talked about building huge boats as well to survive.

You think God would limit it to one tiny demographic of people?

They all bult boats..and all saved their LOCAL species.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78181160


Correct. The Bible is a family album. It doesn't say anything about people outside of the family.
 Quoting: Icebear


NONSENSE.

Egypt - Sumeria - Babylon - Assyria - even Ethopia are all in the Bible.

Not their histories but at least specific points in time.

Sure is odd that until just a few decades ago that both King Sennacherib and King Cyrus were only known because of the Old Testament - until clay tablets were found and deciphered.

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Evidence, evidence, evidence.
Geological records are categoric: there was not a flood, ever.
It's completely impossible to cramp all species in one single boat
Even if it was, one single couple of animals of each species IS NOT enough for survivability.
Plus the logistics of it. It would be hard to do it today with all modern transportation.

Is it really so hard to just use a tiny bit of logic and conclude it to be simply a myth? Your conviction of a myth is making you blind and the tough part for you is that deep down, you know it.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


WELL THERE WAS FLOOD ABOUT 10 K TEARS AGO NEAR TIME OF NOAH IT IS TODAY CALLED 3RD GLACIATION IN WHICH SEA LEVELS ROSE TO GREAT HEIGHTS WHETHER NOAHS ARK WAS THERE EHHHHH WHO KNOW
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Evidence, evidence, evidence.
Geological records are categoric: there was not a flood, ever.
It's completely impossible to cramp all species in one single boat
Even if it was, one single couple of animals of each species IS NOT enough for survivability.
Plus the logistics of it. It would be hard to do it today with all modern transportation.

Is it really so hard to just use a tiny bit of logic and conclude it to be simply a myth? Your conviction of a myth is making you blind and the tough part for you is that deep down, you know it.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


WELL THERE WAS FLOOD ABOUT 10 K TEARS AGO NEAR TIME OF NOAH IT IS TODAY CALLED 3RD GLACIATION IN WHICH SEA LEVELS ROSE TO GREAT HEIGHTS WHETHER NOAHS ARK WAS THERE EHHHHH WHO KNOW
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see here,at 32 min.. water rose 23-25 feet above the highest mountain she says.... very interesting and informative video. All studied and by experts.

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I want to see the ark Encounter in Kentucky. Trying to get a group from church to go so maybe can get a discount flight
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Evidence, evidence, evidence.
Geological records are categoric: there was not a flood, ever.
It's completely impossible to cramp all species in one single boat
Even if it was, one single couple of animals of each species IS NOT enough for survivability.
Plus the logistics of it. It would be hard to do it today with all modern transportation.

Is it really so hard to just use a tiny bit of logic and conclude it to be simply a myth? Your conviction of a myth is making you blind and the tough part for you is that deep down, you know it.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


Over two million visitors to the ARK built to Bible specs.

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amazing how their faith lead them to do this, and how they have expanded!
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And that Ark built to Bible specs?

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Noah's ark discovery shared by Ron Wyatt on CNN! (1991)


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There certainly is evidence of buried cities underthe ocean, and geologic explanations for terrain around the world in terms of a massive flood. But the aspparent timeframeof the biblicalaccount seems problematic with the anient ruins around the world shown, for example, in Brien Foerester's videos. The evidence is in, that many of these ancient structures were hi by a CME (coronal masse ejection) event about 11,800 years ago. Where exactly does the biblical flood fit in here? Not denying it, just trying to figure out if we have been handed a somewhat altered historicaltime f ram for events here?
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2 part inverview with a geologist.
Part 1 looks at what was learned by the Mt. St. Helens eruption.
Part 2 looks at the Grand Canyon.
Each part is about 26 mins


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