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Surprise Discovery of Black Hole in Our Galaxy That “Should Not Even Exist”

 
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Can you even fathom the size of these "monster" black holes?.....shrug


Our Milky Way Galaxy is estimated to contain 100 million stellar black holes – cosmic bodies formed by the collapse of massive stars and so dense even light can’t escape. Until now, scientists had estimated the mass of an individual stellar black hole in our Galaxy at no more than 20 times that of the Sun. But the discovery of a huge black hole by a Chinese-led team of international scientists has toppled that assumption.

The team, headed by Prof. LIU Jifeng of the National Astronomical Observatory of China of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (NAOC), spotted a stellar black hole with a mass 70 times greater than the Sun. The monster black hole is located 15 thousand light-years from Earth and has been named LB-1 by the researchers. The discovery is reported in the latest issue of Nature.

The discovery came as a big surprise. “Black holes of such mass should not even exist in our Galaxy, according to most of the current models of stellar evolution,” said Prof. LIU. “We thought that very massive stars with the chemical composition typical of our Galaxy must shed most of their gas in powerful stellar winds, as they approach the end of their life. Therefore, they should not leave behind such a massive remnant. LB-1 is twice as massive as what we thought possible. Now theorists will have to take up the challenge of explaining its formation.”


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Can you even fathom how much we do not know about our entire environment, from here to eternity?


Sometimes, it does boggle my mind, and fills me with wonder.....ohyeah
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They are not "black holes".

They are large scale formations made from ionized gasses energized by electrical currents.
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They are not "black holes".

They are large scale formations made from ionized gasses energized by electrical currents.
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Can you even fathom how much we do not know about our entire environment, from here to eternity?


Sometimes, it does boggle my mind, and fills me with wonder.....ohyeah
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Some scientists speculate the yet unseen "9th planet" in our own solar system is a tiny black hole....

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The discovery came as a big surprise. “Black holes of such mass should not even exist in our Galaxy, according to most of the current models of stellar evolution,” said Prof. LIU.
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Gee ya think the current models are off or what? afroalien03s226
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maybe this black hole has just swallowed a lot
of Solar Systems and Stars since its birth.
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ONCE YOU CONSIDER THE OVER-LAPPING DIMENSIONAL CONCEPTS THEN, THIS IS QUITE FEASIBLE. UH.
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ONCE YOU CONSIDER THE OVER-LAPPING DIMENSIONAL CONCEPTS THEN, THIS IS QUITE FEASIBLE. UH.
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Can you even fathom how much we do not know about our entire environment, from here to eternity?


Sometimes, it does boggle my mind, and fills me with wonder.....ohyeah
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Some scientists speculate the yet unseen "9th planet" in our own solar system is a tiny black hole....

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THIS! A BLOCK HOLE THAT 'ROTATES' IN AND OUT OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM?....IS DAT WHUT DEY R SAYIN?..
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Can you even fathom how much we do not know about our entire environment, from here to eternity?


Sometimes, it does boggle my mind, and fills me with wonder.....ohyeah
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Some scientists speculate the yet unseen "9th planet" in our own solar system is a tiny black hole....

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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THIS! A BLOCK HOLE THAT 'ROTATES' IN AND OUT OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM?....IS DAT WHUT DEY R SAYIN?..
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OR THAT GOLDILOCKS 'THINGY' BETWEEN A BROWN-DWARF AND A BLACK HOLE?..OR THE PRIMORDIAL COMBO-PACK?!?!...
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Gee, proof of no hawking's radiation...
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Come on! Stop saying black hole! That's like saying n****r hole.
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All space pictures are artist renderings. Freemason theater.
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They are not "black holes".

They are large scale formations made from ionized gasses energized by electrical currents.
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It's so nice to be an stronomer today.

You just have to have the right backing (Rothschilds) and you can pretty much make up anything you want and the masses will eat it up without questions.


"Should not even exist", yes, dummy, because they exist only in your theoretical models!
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“Scientists are baffled”

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Can you even fathom how much we do not know about our entire environment, from here to eternity?


Sometimes, it does boggle my mind, and fills me with wonder.....ohyeah
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How's about anything can fucking happen in space. It goes on forever. There is probably a planet with talking dogs on it. Anything is possible when infinite. No reason it shouldn't be.
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Come on! Stop saying black hole! That's like saying n****r hole.
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How about "hole of color" instead?
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How's about anything can fucking happen in space. It goes on forever. There is probably a planet with talking dogs on it. Anything is possible when infinite. No reason it shouldn't be.
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with infinite possible outcomes in infinite number of Universes,
yup, it's big.
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Come on! Stop saying black hole! That's like saying n****r hole.
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How about "hole of color" instead?
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"hole without color" you mean?!
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It seems that everything we thought we knew, all our theories and things we mistakenly assumed to be fact are routinely being discredited and proven false.

We really don't know much at all and that could be dangerous.

Our early ancestors had some wonderful works and they tried to pass the knowledge of what actually happened to the future.

I think a fresh look at our past would reveal much more about our future than the professors and theorists of today would like us to know.

Great thread.

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Can you even fathom how much we do not know about our entire environment, from here to eternity?


Sometimes, it does boggle my mind, and fills me with wonder.....ohyeah
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all fields are not IN space, rather there is space within a field, but not the inverse.

The loss of inertia is lost AS space, not IN space. Space
is movement, which is the loss of inertia which is space

Black Holes are COUNTER-SPACE


Chaos = space = movement = velocity = expansion = interactions = unfolding

Order = time = geometry = mass = contraction = relationships = folding



BLACK HOLE = more mass = less velocity = more time = less interactions = less space per "particle"

As space expands, time contracts. as space folds, Time expands

The largest unit of space is that where the smallest unit of time can be found, making for an eternal now.
The largest unit of time is where there is the densest mass, making for an eternal
here.


Dielectricity: 1. Centripetal 2. Radial 3. Inertial 4. Counterspatial

Dielectric lines of force push inward into
internal space and along axis (longitudinal.)


Magnetism: 1. Centrifugal (centripetal on return = polarization) 2. Circular 3. Radiative 4. Spatial

Dielectricity is the Ether under torsion and torque at its inertial plane

magnetism is a spatial circular reciprocating vortex, an
Etheric ‘pair’ of fountains and countersinks

Electricity is the dynamic radial or reciprocating polarization of the Ether.


electricity and dielectricity accumulate in
the counterspatial. Matter and magnetism, both being polarized, accumulate spatially

Neither magnetism nor dielectricity can terminate in space, but only on themselves or into counterspatial conductive terminals.

Magnetism, therefore is the necessitated polarized
(creates space) co-eternal conjugate to dielectricity
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Quote from Proff Michio Kaku in the new cosmology docc, The Principle: "...In cosmology we are off by a factor of 10 to 120... This is the largest mismatch between theory and experiment in the history of science..."

That's a 10 with 120 zeros after it. In the real world we would all lose our jobs if we were even .1% as wrong as these guys.

Everyone should check out the Wakiwaki channel on Youtube. He creates a false identity and gets an interview with one of the top astrophysicists in the world and exposes their hypocrisy.
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all fields are not IN space, rather there is space within a field, but not the inverse.

The loss of inertia is lost AS space, not IN space. Space
is movement, which is the loss of inertia which is space

Black Holes are COUNTER-SPACE


Chaos = space = movement = velocity = expansion = interactions = unfolding

Order = time = geometry = mass = contraction = relationships = folding



BLACK HOLE = more mass = less velocity = more time = less interactions = less space per "particle"

As space expands, time contracts. as space folds, Time expands

The largest unit of space is that where the smallest unit of time can be found, making for an eternal now.
The largest unit of time is where there is the densest mass, making for an eternal
here.
=

Dielectricity: 1. Centripetal 2. Radial 3. Inertial 4. Counterspatial

Dielectric lines of force push inward into
internal space and along axis (longitudinal.)


Magnetism: 1. Centrifugal (centripetal on return = polarization) 2. Circular 3. Radiative 4. Spatial

Dielectricity is the Ether under torsion and torque at its inertial plane

magnetism is a spatial circular reciprocating vortex, an
Etheric ‘pair’ of fountains and countersinks

Electricity is the dynamic radial or reciprocating polarization of the Ether.


electricity and dielectricity accumulate in
the counterspatial. Matter and magnetism, both being polarized, accumulate spatially

Neither magnetism nor dielectricity can terminate in space, but only on themselves or into counterspatial conductive terminals.

Magnetism, therefore is the necessitated polarized
(creates space) co-eternal conjugate to dielectricity
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That's a lot of text just to say there's no such thing as
....... Space.
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Or maybe scientists have no damn clue how big any of this is and just pull numbers out their ass.
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IT DOESN'T EXIST.

NONE OF THEIR PRONOUNCEMENTS ARE BASED ON TRUTH OR REALITY, BUT ON THEORETICAL UNDERSTANDING OF THE UNIVERSE FOUNDED ON MINUTE BITS OF DATA.

BLACK HOLE IS NOT A THING, IT'S AN EXPLANATION FOR WHAT THEY WILL NEVER COMPREHEND.

RELAX.
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A great series for anyone not familiar with it.
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A great series for anyone not familiar with it.
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