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Surprise Discovery of Black Hole in Our Galaxy That “Should Not Even Exist”

 
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It seems that everything we thought we knew, all our theories and things we mistakenly assumed to be fact are routinely being discredited and proven false.

We really don't know much at all and that could be dangerous.

Our early ancestors had some wonderful works and they tried to pass the knowledge of what actually happened to the future.

I think a fresh look at our past would reveal much more about our future than the professors and theorists of today would like us to know.

Great thread.

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hf

This.
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That is there for all the scum that is about to be cast into outer darkness.
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all fields are not IN space, rather there is space within a field, but not the inverse.

The loss of inertia is lost AS space, not IN space. Space
is movement, which is the loss of inertia which is space

Black Holes are COUNTER-SPACE


Chaos = space = movement = velocity = expansion = interactions = unfolding

Order = time = geometry = mass = contraction = relationships = folding



BLACK HOLE = more mass = less velocity = more time = less interactions = less space per "particle"

As space expands, time contracts. as space folds, Time expands

The largest unit of space is that where the smallest unit of time can be found, making for an eternal now.
The largest unit of time is where there is the densest mass, making for an eternal
here.
=

Dielectricity: 1. Centripetal 2. Radial 3. Inertial 4. Counterspatial

Dielectric lines of force push inward into
internal space and along axis (longitudinal.)


Magnetism: 1. Centrifugal (centripetal on return = polarization) 2. Circular 3. Radiative 4. Spatial

Dielectricity is the Ether under torsion and torque at its inertial plane

magnetism is a spatial circular reciprocating vortex, an
Etheric ‘pair’ of fountains and countersinks

Electricity is the dynamic radial or reciprocating polarization of the Ether.


electricity and dielectricity accumulate in
the counterspatial. Matter and magnetism, both being polarized, accumulate spatially

Neither magnetism nor dielectricity can terminate in space, but only on themselves or into counterspatial conductive terminals.

Magnetism, therefore is the necessitated polarized
(creates space) co-eternal conjugate to dielectricity
 Quoting: D. R. B. 77589388


That's a lot of text just to say there's no such thing as
....... Space.
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Yes, but it's the human being's way to understand how something works....not that I'm yet able to understand what you call "a lot of text."

I think it's very worth learning how to understand the AC's POST, though...because I know that's from where greater understandings - greater than the subject matter - come from....the learning process.
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Can you even fathom how much we do not know about our entire environment, from here to eternity?


Sometimes, it does boggle my mind, and fills me with wonder.....ohyeah
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Some scientists speculate the yet unseen "9th planet" in our own solar system is a tiny black hole....

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THIS! A BLOCK HOLE THAT 'ROTATES' IN AND OUT OF OUR SOLAR SYSTEM?....IS DAT WHUT DEY R SAYIN?..
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OR THAT GOLDILOCKS 'THINGY' BETWEEN A BROWN-DWARF AND A BLACK HOLE?..OR THE PRIMORDIAL COMBO-PACK?!?!...
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It exists because:

our 'science' doesn't know its own ass from a black hole.
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Surprise Discovery of Black Hole in Our Galaxy That “Should Not Even Exist”- is that so now....
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all fields are not IN space, rather there is space within a field, but not the inverse.

The loss of inertia is lost AS space, not IN space. Space
is movement, which is the loss of inertia which is space

Black Holes are COUNTER-SPACE


Chaos = space = movement = velocity = expansion = interactions = unfolding

Order = time = geometry = mass = contraction = relationships = folding



BLACK HOLE = more mass = less velocity = more time = less interactions = less space per "particle"

As space expands, time contracts. as space folds, Time expands

The largest unit of space is that where the smallest unit of time can be found, making for an eternal now.
The largest unit of time is where there is the densest mass, making for an eternal
here.


Dielectricity: 1. Centripetal 2. Radial 3. Inertial 4. Counterspatial

Dielectric lines of force push inward into
internal space and along axis (longitudinal.)


Magnetism: 1. Centrifugal (centripetal on return = polarization) 2. Circular 3. Radiative 4. Spatial

Dielectricity is the Ether under torsion and torque at its inertial plane

magnetism is a spatial circular reciprocating vortex, an
Etheric ‘pair’ of fountains and countersinks

Electricity is the dynamic radial or reciprocating polarization of the Ether.


electricity and dielectricity accumulate in
the counterspatial. Matter and magnetism, both being polarized, accumulate spatially

Neither magnetism nor dielectricity can terminate in space, but only on themselves or into counterspatial conductive terminals.

Magnetism, therefore is the necessitated polarized
(creates space) co-eternal conjugate to dielectricity
 Quoting: D. R. B. 77589388



D. R. B., I want to ask you a question....it's a kind out of the blue question, a question regarding a singularity and what will propel it to happen.

When I asked during an OBE what it is that makes that moment of singularity happen, I was told--

"When gravity loses its vacuousness, is when a singularity happens."

This statement has befuddled me for well over a decade. I've asked physicists and other intelligent and learned people what this means, and all but one told me that such cannot happen, that gravity cannot exist in a vacuum. The other one told me they just don't know what else to say because they live in science's little box of knowledge.

I am waaay more of a mystic, than I am a scientist. I actually have come to the conclusion that the above statement is more about consciousness, than it is about science, henceforth why no one I asked could give me an answer beyond, "Can't happen."


Are you perhaps able to explain the above statement, from whatever angle/s you're able to?....hf
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Gee, proof of no hawking's radiation...
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the general proof of hawking's radiation is that we don't see these type of large black holes in our galaxy.

Now, we have observed one.

Therefore, hawking's radiation is disproven.

That means microscopic blackholes that the large hadron collider possibly makes and gets captured by earth's gravity, could now be eating the earth.
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It s no black hole! It s URANUS!
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Don't you think that one is just a *leeetle* bit tired?
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[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

A great series for anyone not familiar with it.
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If you like hearing Carl Sagan say the word "Billions" about 500 times then this is for you. Also prepare to be told you are an insignificant monkey man descended from stardust.
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Wow, you must be fun at parties. Supposing anyone invites you anymore. After all you are an insignificant piece of stardust.

3-digit IQs are required to get something out of the Cosmos series, which contains a lot of great information.
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when the big dipper dissapear...you can take it for granted we are next
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Black holes don't exist. Only brown holes.
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This article suggest that spacetime should be treated as a fluid...

"What if spacetime were a kind of fluid? This is the question tackled by theoretical physicists working on quantum gravity by creating models attempting to reconcile gravity and quantum mechanics. Some of these models predict that spacetime at the Planck scale (10-33cm) is no longer continuous – as held by classical physics – but discrete in nature. Just like the solids or fluids we come into contact with every day, which can be seen as made up of atoms and molecules when observed at sufficient resolution. A structure of this kind generally implies, at very high energies, violations of Einstein's special relativity (a integral part of general relativity).
In this theoretical framework, it has been suggested that spacetime should be treated as a fluid. In this sense, general relativity would be the analogue to fluid..."

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A great series for anyone not familiar with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77237183


If you like hearing Carl Sagan say the word "Billions" about 500 times then this is for you. Also prepare to be told you are an insignificant monkey man descended from stardust.
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Wow, you must be fun at parties. Supposing anyone invites you anymore. After all you are an insignificant piece of stardust.

3-digit IQs are required to get something out of the Cosmos series, which contains a lot of great information.
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Information? More like guess work, but Janeway jerkers gotta Janeway jerk. Carry on monkey man. speedbanan
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Hmmm.. Doing a search led to these nuggets...

"The inverse of permeability is called vacuousness The vacuousness of free space is 500 miles."

"1/Vacuousness = Density
1/Density = Vacuousness"
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Can you even fathom the size of these "monster" black holes?.....:shrug:


Our Milky Way Galaxy is estimated to contain 100 million stellar black holes – cosmic bodies formed by the collapse of massive stars and so dense even light can’t escape. Until now, scientists had estimated the mass of an individual stellar black hole in our Galaxy at no more than 20 times that of the Sun. But the discovery of a huge black hole by a Chinese-led team of international scientists has toppled that assumption.

The team, headed by Prof. LIU Jifeng of the National Astronomical Observatory of China of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (NAOC), spotted a stellar black hole with a mass 70 times greater than the Sun. The monster black hole is located 15 thousand light-years from Earth and has been named LB-1 by the researchers. The discovery is reported in the latest issue of Nature.

The discovery came as a big surprise. “Black holes of such mass should not even exist in our Galaxy, according to most of the current models of stellar evolution,” said Prof. LIU. “We thought that very massive stars with the chemical composition typical of our Galaxy must shed most of their gas in powerful stellar winds, as they approach the end of their life. Therefore, they should not leave behind such a massive remnant. LB-1 is twice as massive as what we thought possible. Now theorists will have to take up the challenge of explaining its formation.”


Less than 50% and read more--

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the arent's holes and they are the source of matter in the creation..
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I'm starting to feel very tired.
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It "shouldn't exist"? Well, that's good, because it doesn't exist! Black holes are fiction! Electric universe represent!
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all fields are not IN space, rather there is space within a field, but not the inverse.

The loss of inertia is lost AS space, not IN space. Space
is movement, which is the loss of inertia which is space

Black Holes are COUNTER-SPACE


Chaos = space = movement = velocity = expansion = interactions = unfolding

Order = time = geometry = mass = contraction = relationships = folding



BLACK HOLE = more mass = less velocity = more time = less interactions = less space per "particle"

As space expands, time contracts. as space folds, Time expands

The largest unit of space is that where the smallest unit of time can be found, making for an eternal now.
The largest unit of time is where there is the densest mass, making for an eternal
here.


Dielectricity: 1. Centripetal 2. Radial 3. Inertial 4. Counterspatial

Dielectric lines of force push inward into
internal space and along axis (longitudinal.)


Magnetism: 1. Centrifugal (centripetal on return = polarization) 2. Circular 3. Radiative 4. Spatial

Dielectricity is the Ether under torsion and torque at its inertial plane

magnetism is a spatial circular reciprocating vortex, an
Etheric ‘pair’ of fountains and countersinks

Electricity is the dynamic radial or reciprocating polarization of the Ether.


electricity and dielectricity accumulate in
the counterspatial. Matter and magnetism, both being polarized, accumulate spatially

Neither magnetism nor dielectricity can terminate in space, but only on themselves or into counterspatial conductive terminals.

Magnetism, therefore is the necessitated polarized
(creates space) co-eternal conjugate to dielectricity
 Quoting: D. R. B. 77589388



D. R. B., I want to ask you a question....it's a kind out of the blue question, a question regarding a singularity and what will propel it to happen.

When I asked during an OBE what it is that makes that moment of singularity happen, I was told--

"When gravity loses its vacuousness, is when a singularity happens."

This statement has befuddled me for well over a decade. I've asked physicists and other intelligent and learned people what this means, and all but one told me that such cannot happen, that gravity cannot exist in a vacuum. The other one told me they just don't know what else to say because they live in science's little box of knowledge.

I am waaay more of a mystic, than I am a scientist. I actually have come to the conclusion that the above statement is more about consciousness, than it is about science, henceforth why no one I asked could give me an answer beyond, "Can't happen."


Are you perhaps able to explain the above statement, from whatever angle/s you're able to?....hf
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Naturally.




From a mystic perspective
: There can be no singularity, apart from that which already exists as your "Perspective"

no energy is independent of your perspective = we perceive that which takes the least amount of energy to perceive. we do not perceive anything directly but perceive the relationships around it, instead.

We perceive in order to exist. We have perspective simply because we are not able to perceive of reality. This is the value of consciousness

There is no irreducible unit of spacetime, per se, however, so this value is relative to the observer. This would
mean that there is an irreducible unit of perspective.

When you relate with space you get the sense of time, which collapses the chaos of spatial information. When you interact with time you get the sense of space, which expands the order of systemic information. Both combine to form your perspective.

There for the only singularity would be the dissolution of the illusion of separation between self and other. This would be a state of pure awareness at its core but may be interpreted as union with everything, samadhi, satori, enlightenment, etc. In a true singularity there is no "content of consciousness." There is no consciousness as there is no differential to be perceived (knowing without a knower). In scientific terms it is being studied under Persistent forms of non-symbolic experience (PNSE)

From a physics perspective:

Magnetic and electric fields are one in the same thing. In fact, there are no such things as “electrical fields” vs. “magnetic fields” vs. “gravity fields”; they are all just preturbative pressure modalities of the Ether"

Gravity is not a force. It is an ether modality similar to mass, magnetism, and dielectricity

Pressure increases in inverse proportions to the field. As is likewise the case with all fields, the greater the pressure the closer the spatial proximity to field voidance. Just as at the center of any magnet, the dielectric inertial plane, there is no magnetism, likewise if one were able to occupy a space at the center of the Earth there would be no gravity


Gravity itself is a “positive terminal” circular centripetal-emanative field with a negative Ether-pressure (true vacuum) gradient whose “negative terminal” is in counterspace (Ether).

That dielectric attraction acts identical to gravity is no coincidence. Dielectricity terminates as mass, and likewise resultant gravity

gravity is centripetal.

Dielectricity is to gravitation as electricity is to magnetism

Gravity is centripetal, gyroscopic motion is centrifugal, THIS is why the flywheel "loses weight”; weight is location specific AND medium specific. In the case of the gyroscope, its movement is counter to its field.

"When gravity loses its vacuousness, is when a singularity happens."


If vacuousness refers to counterspace/the VOID

"When gravity loses its counterspace it comes into being, when gravity loses its mass it returns to Source."
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This means their understanding and interpretation is sh!t.
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What's your OBE technique?
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LoLs.
I saw that artist rendering on the news tonight. Like am I supposed to be convinced by that? Maybe if they throw in a word salad about. nah.
There is no embellishments to the human eye that they could see a "black hole" anywhere. How many light years away are they saying they saw it? Yeah, nope. More BS justification for $cience $tudies to bamboozle.
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Meditation and relaxation while focusing on and with the pineal gland.

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Gee, proof of no hawking's radiation...
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the general proof of hawking's radiation is that we don't see these type of large black holes in our galaxy.

Now, we have observed one.

Therefore, hawking's radiation is disproven.

That means microscopic blackholes that the large hadron collider possibly makes and gets captured by earth's gravity, could now be eating the earth.
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No nobody can see them.. not even the celestials... they are discerned in other ways.
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Gee, proof of no hawking's radiation...
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the general proof of hawking's radiation is that we don't see these type of large black holes in our galaxy.

Now, we have observed one.

Therefore, hawking's radiation is disproven.

That means microscopic blackholes that the large hadron collider possibly makes and gets captured by earth's gravity, could now be eating the earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47090265


No nobody can see them.. not even the celestials... they are discerned in other ways.

The above comments by some bone have lots and lots of error because our science and all that is not so hot yet. Gravity is very simple... it is the pressure of cold space ... It is a push not a pull.
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Mass/gravity is a contraction of space. This contraction is an electrical charge, which is a representation of the summed mass of all the system's sub-particles


singularity = motionlessness, interaction less, space-less, infinite mass, infinite time, infinite order, infinite contraction,


As we can either have perception or truth – not both – our reality is not a reflection but a mere reference to something so great it cannot be perceived

0=nothing
1=awareness
2=perspective
3=space
4=time
5=reality


"In this cycle, nothing becomes something, then simultaneously becomes two things (chaos
and order) in order to have existence, then four things, and so on."
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Gee, proof of no hawking's radiation...
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the general proof of hawking's radiation is that we don't see these type of large black holes in our galaxy.

Now, we have observed one.

Therefore, hawking's radiation is disproven.

That means microscopic blackholes that the large hadron collider possibly makes and gets captured by earth's gravity, could now be eating the earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47090265


No nobody can see them.. not even the celestials... they are discerned in other ways.

The above comments by some bone have lots and lots of error because our science and all that is not so hot yet. Gravity is very simple... it is the pressure of cold space ... It is a push not a pull.
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While you are right that gravity is simple, and that it is resultant from a pressure differential, cold air is not involved.

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There's no Galaxy and no Black Hole. Chillax.
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What's your OBE technique?
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I don't have a technique. OBEs came naturally to me. I'm a 6D Wanderer. I have much soul "experience" that apparently makes some of these metaphysical things easier for me to experience.


I truly want to thank you for your responses. I am of course going to have to learn how to interpret what you've written....because mystic.

I studied Environmental Science in college, but that's a far cry from what you're posting.

Heh, I thought about asking you to "dumb it down" for me, but I do know that greater understandings do come from learning, so learn I shall.

Thank you again, lovey....


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There is a reason it is called "Theoretical Science". Yes, it sounds good - and plausible - considering the evidence that we have observed but, it is still just theory!?! In reality it is mainly bullshite. Even Einstein was wrong!!!

Time to start solving the problems we have here at home, within our own families, rather than wasting time thinking about something that has NO effect or solutions to our society today!
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