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Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.

 
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... assuming you are HUMAN? ...
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... The Creator created HUMANS as His very special creation that could have His Spirit live with them ... satan destroyed that option ... Yeshua is our Kinsman Redeemer restoring that option ...
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
Tell you what,if this Jesus fellow died for everybodys sins and went to heaven, I'll die for just my sins and go to heaven! Seems fair. I'll pass on why I might go to hell after my sins were forgiven? So this Jesus may have been a human sacrifice for nothing? People will still go to hell? This God is bi-polar.
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This is the part where OP wants a circle jerk and you to prove him wrong lmao.
Hello. I'm a Taoist. The Tao (some would say it's impossible to know but I've learned it) is the ebb and flow of All. That's it. It's everything and it's nothing (in time.)

I'm therefor a Life Taoist "Lifeist." It's the Tao mixed with a Grey Jedism Tradition to also give a bit of morality to everything.
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I could see dying for some pure saint sure but me? ME? And then you tell me live with hope and faith and truth. But I get down in despair and I become bitter and I lie. It’s like every blessing God gives me I use my free will to turn it into a curse. I hate being of the flesh. I hate sinning. I hate that I escape reality because I can’t handle it. I smoke cigarettes and I love to gamble. I usually make 20-30 dollars last for hours. But I do it to escape. If God appeared instantly to me I would stop all gambling and hurting my body. But I question if he is truly there . Because I beg and beg and beg to hear his voice and all there is is silence. It breaks my heart. But I still believe. Even if I don’t fully understand. Deep down I want to be a disciple. Not for myself or my own glory but for building up the kingdom and for the Glory of God and the recognition of his reedeeming power of salvation. It’s all for him . But in no way do I feel worthy. I am dirty. Yet God says because of Jesus you are clean . How do I accept that ?
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You are his disciple. 90% of communication is unspoken. The purpose of life is to love, and not infatuation or romantic love, its to really love with your heart and soul. Love is like a snowflake, appearing the same at first glance, but when closely inspected they are all unique never to be formed the exact same way again. Love is like a flash of lightning, unexpected and unpredictable, bending twisting and turning. You hear it before it manifests itself. Love is like a flame, that start out small. It can warm you, feed you, or maim you, scar you, and kill you. When properly fueled that small flame can turn into a blaze, annihilating and consuming everything in its path. Love is like a sword, that can attack, defend, and intimidate. IF not properly trained, the user can kill themselves and die by there own sword. Properly trained, it can defend and kill others, or intimidate, not to mention your story of how you use that sword spreads to others, forming an opinion about you and touching many lives, good bad and ugly.

Rejoice at your suffering, suffering teaches you what really matters in life, it doesn't teach your mind, it teaches your heart and soul.

Jesus died because others were jealous and tried to hold onto power, and saw this bloke who truly loved others. instead of shrinking from others people jealousy hate and anger, he accepted it and loved anyways. He loved unconditionally. He died to teach you how to love, that is why he died for you. Follow Him, learn to love, learn to rejoice in your suffering. Learn to see the silver lining and beauty behind love in this fallen world. Perfect Love casts out fear.

Read the book of Ecclesiastes. It teaches that all is meaningless. Nothing done is new or original. It has been done and will be done again. It will not impress god. Our works will be forgotten, the works of our children will be forgotten. Our memory will be forgotten by others. The only thing you can hold onto is your integrity, and who you are as a person. Do not hold yourself up to Man's standards, of fame and success. Know yourself, persecute yourself and truly inspect yourself. Discard your masks, and triggers, swallow your pride. You will then began to act and feel like you should. You will suffer and go through the trials and tribulations that other true Christians go through. When you accept this and rejoice at this, then you will understand glory and be able to stand bold and confidently inside yourself and not be ashamed of who you are. We are ashamed we don't measure up to Man's standard of fame and success and how Man says we should love. Poppycock, its not about trying to impress others, its about staying true to yourself, the true you, and the you, that you truly want to be.

Do not fear that which can kill the body, Fear (respect) that which can kill the soul.

Jesus Appears to Thomas
…28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

Thomas had to see the Lords love, and gain wisdom of his suffering when Jesus looked at humanity. Thomas gained that same suffering Jesus had to a small degree. He touched Jesus's wounds. Blessed are those who Love unconditionally without seeing the hurt and pain caused by others who lust after power and fame. They can live ignorantly happy. With much wisdom comes much sorrow.

Place me like a seal on your heart, like a seal on your arm. For Love is as Strong as Death, Jealousy as Cruel as the Grave. Its flashes are flashes of fire, the very flame of the LORD. If a man would give up all the wealth of his house for love, his offer would utter be scorned. -Song of Songs 8:6

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God reveals His holy attributes of mercy, love, and forgiveness when He saves sinners. He pays the price that wretched beings deserve so that they can live and know He loves them. Praise God that He saves sinners!
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Yes he does indeed save sinners. And I want to be saved. I hate the flesh and all it’s works. I want peace. I want to glorify God in my life. For God. For he is amazing . And deserves our love.
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He did it because he loves you.
1 Corinthians 13:4-8
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I wrote that in a love note once to a girl I liked in college. The corinthians passage on love. It didn’t work out but she led me to believe in truth and really analyze my life and how I can serve Jesus and his Father. I’m glad she was in my life because it did make me want to be closer to God.
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Jesus was SACRIFICED on our behalf. He was THE sacrificial lamb for the sins of the world.
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What greater love, than to lay ones life down for his brother.

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Because He loves you.
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hf
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Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
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That you could say such a thing to begin with

shows to be so very much further ahead to begin with

than those that must praise their own worthless selves...
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You know you suck.

You don't argue.

You don't deny uncomfortable truths.

You welcome them.

Keep going...
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I know I suck.

I know I need His Mercy.

Therefore, I try to be merciful to others when they suck too...

How about you?

Do you try to help others

or do you try to shit on others?

That's basically the difference...
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
Some post thousands and thousands of times here for years and years and years about how great and special and chosen by God they are.

You are already far ahead of them...
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Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.

"The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.

'I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.'

"And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'

"I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."



Luke 18:9-14
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Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991


That you could say such a thing to begin with

shows to be so very much further ahead to begin with

than those that must praise their own worthless selves...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78188777


Oh I know I’m a sinner. But God shows me mercy. So we must show mercy.
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Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

"Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.

"The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector.

'I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.'

"And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'

"I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."



Luke 18:9-14
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I love this passage so much, it just completely destroys the work salvationist and repent of your sins to be saved types. Simply place your faith on the Lord Jesus Christ to receive salvation.

Romans 4
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
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There are so many people on this thread headed to hell and actually convincing the OP to believe the lies you tell. Its pathetic.

OP go to church and ask a pastor. If you talk religion on this board you will get advice from demons from hell. Its just the truth. And you won't respond or listen to the truth that some have said.

You have and are doing wrong, God loves you but that isn't enough to get you to Heaven. Just stop believing lies and get the truth from a pastor in PERSON. Not here.
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
I know I suck.

I know I need His Mercy.

Therefore, I try to be merciful to others when they suck too...

How about you?

Do you try to help others

or do you try to shit on others?

That's basically the difference...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78188777


I always try to help others when I can . I have even given new clothes to homeless people before. I’m not saying that for praise I’m just saying it’s funny I’m like to the homeless guy I don’t have any money or food or water but I got a shirt and some gym shoes. He was like hell yeah . Lol.
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
There are so many people on this thread headed to hell and actually convincing the OP to believe the lies you tell. Its pathetic.

OP go to church and ask a pastor. If you talk religion on this board you will get advice from demons from hell. Its just the truth. And you won't respond or listen to the truth that some have said.

You have and are doing wrong, God loves you but that isn't enough to get you to Heaven. Just stop believing lies and get the truth from a pastor in PERSON. Not here.
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I have had more meaningful conversations over the last 10 years on this forum with other posters about life and God and aliens than I have ever had with pastors or priests. They always leave me feeling like I need to know more.





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