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Catholics do not pray to Mary. It's a negative stereotype and false narrative created by Baptists. I challenge Anyone!

 
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Good to know thanks.


While I have you here on the line, in your opinion is the pope holier than other humans?
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NO! Obviously not! No Catholic believes this! The church as a whole (the body of all Christians) is supposedly protected by the Holy Spirit from getting serious doctrinal errors on matters of faith and morals... the “gates of hell” will not prevail against it... Matthew 16:18. But it doesn’t and can’t completely prevent error and sin of human beings due to free will, including the Pope. So since more and more “errors” and downright evil are becoming more prevelant in ALL christian churches you can be sure we are near the end... God won’t allow it... so will intervene.
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Empire black magic control religions, whether islam, christianity, judaism or hinduism...

Corrupt caste system - they all mess with kids :(

And buddhism has been pigeon holed into nothingness escapism and the dali lama does fucked up sex magic as well.

Institutionalized belief systems are corrupt to the core by black magicians.

The Golden Rule and The Golden Ratio are enough - the rest is black magic empire programming to get us to power the system of our own domination, worship human sacrifice idols, provide lip service and provide veneration to their war and money egregore.

It's a sorry state of affairs...
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Good to know thanks.


While I have you here on the line, in your opinion is the pope holier than other humans?
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As a devout Catholic, we believe that the Pope is an imperfect sinner, so not necessarily. But in my opinion the cardinals do a great job picking humble and yes, holy servants of God to lead the Church.
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It's asking Mary to "pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death".


No different than all the posts here asking others to pray for them.
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Good to know thanks.


While I have you here on the line, in your opinion is the pope holier than other humans?
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As a devout Catholic, we believe that the Pope is an imperfect sinner, so not necessarily. But in my opinion the cardinals do a great job picking humble and yes, holy servants of God to lead the Church.
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sheep

Like Cardinel Pell the prosecuted child sex offender? And all the others who were covered for?

You're so kind to excuse them and look past their misdeeds throughout history.
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The only thing i know about Baptists is they all drink a lot. Bunch of alcoholics.
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Good to know thanks.


While I have you here on the line, in your opinion is the pope holier than other humans?
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Everyone, and everyone except Jesus comes short of the glory of God.

Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Bible says you know them by their fruits. The pope has been known to cover up pedophile rings within the Vatican. In 2019, in any big gov org, they don't just let you rise up through the rankings unless they have some type of serious dirt on you.

I know why you would ask that question about the pope, it is because you don't understand that Catholics have different sub groups and not all agree with the pope or the Vatican!
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That should be a huge red flag as to why the catholic, or any "church", are not any better in the eyes of God than the Pharisees were.

It's not just the Catholics with issues but just about ALL modern churches, especially here in America.

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23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
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More Mary Statues on Catholic lawns than Jesus

Seems to me the blatant Idolatry and preference to Mary (Who is Isis, by the way, enjoy that...) indicates who Catholics truly worship.
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What the in the f*ck does 'enjoy that' mean? Isis was an Egyptian idol, yes there is a coincidence because at the time the Romans suppressed all religions, many of the similar in nature as they were allegorical historical records to mask names and identities.

But keep puffing that Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth crack pipe and never considering the multi-perspective realm from with which you are within.
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More Mary Statues on Catholic lawns than Jesus

Seems to me the blatant Idolatry and preference to Mary (Who is Isis, by the way, enjoy that...) indicates who Catholics truly worship.
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What the in the f*ck does 'enjoy that' mean? Isis was an Egyptian idol, yes there is a coincidence because at the time the Romans suppressed all religions, many of the similar in nature as they were allegorical historical records to mask names and identities.

But keep puffing that Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth crack pipe and never considering the multi-perspective realm from with which you are within.
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You don't even understand what you are so eager to attack in my post.

Fuck off, I don't need you.
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Good to know thanks.


While I have you here on the line, in your opinion is the pope holier than other humans?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78109820


As a devout Catholic, we believe that the Pope is an imperfect sinner, so not necessarily. But in my opinion the cardinals do a great job picking humble and yes, holy servants of God to lead the Church.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76835938


sheep

Like Cardinel Pell the prosecuted child sex offender? And all the others who were covered for?

You're so kind to excuse them and look past their misdeeds throughout history.
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I don’t abandon the Church because men committed sins. If I believed the majority of cardinals were a part of that I would think differently, but it’s not even close to the majority.
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Good to know thanks.


While I have you here on the line, in your opinion is the pope holier than other humans?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78109820


Everyone, and everyone except Jesus comes short of the glory of God.

Romans 3:23
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Bible says you know them by their fruits. The pope has been known to cover up pedophile rings within the Vatican. In 2019, in any big gov org, they don't just let you rise up through the rankings unless they have some type of serious dirt on you.

I know why you would ask that question about the pope, it is because you don't understand that Catholics have different sub groups and not all agree with the pope or the Vatican!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74568952


That should be a huge red flag as to why the catholic, or any "church", are not any better in the eyes of God than the Pharisees were.

It's not just the Catholics with issues but just about ALL modern churches, especially here in America.

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23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
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Which is why ever man who created a new denomination by his own authority was doing an in-Christian act by dividing the Body of Christ.
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I find all religions apostate.
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All warring against one another like spoiled brats.
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Catholics love Mother Mary. You obviously have not been to any homes of true Catholics.
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Surely, HE will deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.


Fowler
A person who sets snares and lies in wait for prey. Derived from the word "fowl", common prey for trappers in old times. The word also gained popularity in the years of Early Modern English (Shakespheare, the King James version of the Bible) as a symbolic term for a person who maliciously uses deception to ensnare or trap others.


Noisome

having an extremely offensive smell.
"noisome vapors from the smoldering waste"
disagreeable; unpleasant.
"noisome scandals"
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I’ve gone to two catholic weddings and both times the couple had to do some weird ritual prayer thing in front of the mary statue and lay flowers at her feet.
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The couple prayerfully asks the Blessed Mother to intercede for them to have children. At least, that was the original intention.
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Mary is dead. Dead people do not know anything going on in the Earth. The Bible says they're asleep. Why pray to a dead woman when she could never hear you or answer you? It just seems stupid. The ONLY person one is to pray to is our Heavenly Father. No one else.
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Once and for all, for the record Catholics do not pray to Mary. They don't ask Mary to forgive them of their sins, they don't ask Mary to help them get a new job, they don't worship Mary as their savior, they don't think Mary is the only way to heaven, they pray that Mary heals their cancer, they don't pray to Mary to bless them...

As you can see below, this is exactly what they say to Mary,

"Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.

Amen"

It's no different than asking your neighbor to pray for you. Or the saying, "You're in my Prayers," or how about telling a friend "Dang I was diagnosed with Cancer, pray for me please."

When Baptists say Catholics are hell bound because they pray to Mary, it's because they are repeating a stereotype without doing proper research. Instead of focusing on Mary they should focus on their own heretic doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved bullcrap. Some of these Baptists are so prideful, I heard a boastful sermon from a Pastor that said he never repents because Jesus died on the cross and there's no need to repent.

You want to talk about hellish doctrines cooked up from the kitchens of hell, talk about that one!
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but mary is dead and in the grave - my friend’s & coworkers are alive
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Her Spirit never dies.
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Remember Him before the silver cord is snapped, and the golden bowl is crushed, before the pitcher is shattered at the spring, and the wheel is broken at the well,

before the dust returns to the ground from which it came, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

“Futility of futilities,” says the Teacher. “Everything is futile!”…Ecclesiastes 12:7
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So dead people that are in the presence of God pray?

Huh. I always thought prayer was our form of communication to the Father who is outside the time domain. And why do I need a dead human to intercede for me when because of Christ’s finished work on the cross I now can go boldly before the Throne?
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Once and for all, for the record Catholics do not pray to Mary. They don't ask Mary to forgive them of their sins, they don't ask Mary to help them get a new job, they don't worship Mary as their savior, they don't think Mary is the only way to heaven, they pray that Mary heals their cancer, they don't pray to Mary to bless them...

As you can see below, this is exactly what they say to Mary,

"Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.

Amen"

It's no different than asking your neighbor to pray for you. Or the saying, "You're in my Prayers," or how about telling a friend "Dang I was diagnosed with Cancer, pray for me please."

When Baptists say Catholics are hell bound because they pray to Mary, it's because they are repeating a stereotype without doing proper research. Instead of focusing on Mary they should focus on their own heretic doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved bullcrap. Some of these Baptists are so prideful, I heard a boastful sermon from a Pastor that said he never repents because Jesus died on the cross and there's no need to repent.

You want to talk about hellish doctrines cooked up from the kitchens of hell, talk about that one!
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One of the ten commandments:
Honor thy mother and father.

If Jesus honors her, I guess I should too.
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The Vatican puts the twelve pointed crown on Mary.

The Pope falsely interprets Revelations 12 as the woman being Mary when it’s Israel in his encyclical. You didn’t read it.? Omg. It’s your Pope.

The 12 pointed crown is the crown of Jesus not Mary. It represents the 12 tribes of Israel.
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She is also called “our lady of Fatima.”

Omg. Fatima is Mohammed’s daughter.


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Fatimah al-Zahra
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Native name
فَاطِمَة ٱبْنَت مُحَمَّد
Born 15–5 BH
(605–615 AD)[1][2][3][4][5][6]
Mecca[7]
Died 3 Jumada al-Thani
11 AH
(18 August 632)[4][6]
(disputed)
Resting place Burial place of Fatimah
Title
al-Ṣiddīqah[7] (The Truthful Woman)
al-Mubārakah[7] (The Blessed Woman)
al-Ṭāhirah[7] (The Pure Woman)
al-Zakīyah[7] (The Chaste/Innocent Woman)
al-Raḍīyah[7] (The Content Woman)
al-Muḥaddathah[7] (The One Spoken to by Angels)
al-Batūl[7] (The Chaste/The Pure)
al-Zahrāʾ[7] (The Splendid One/The Lady of Light)
Sayyidah Nisa al-Alamin[8] (Master of the Women of the Worlds)
Others[9]
Spouse(s) Ali ibn Abi Talib
Children
Hasan ibn Ali
Husayn ibn Ali
Muhsin ibn Ali (unborn)
Zaynab bint Ali
Umm Kulthum bint Ali
Parent(s)
Muhammad[7]
Khadija[7]
Relatives
Qasim ibn Muhammad (brother)
Zainab bint Muhammad (sister)
Ruqayyah bint Muhammad (sister)
Umm Kulthum bint Muhammad (sister)
Ibrahim ibn Muhammad (brother)
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Fatimah bint Muhammad (Arabic: فَاطِمَة ٱبْنَت مُحَمَّد&#820​6;, Fāṭimah ibnat Muḥammad, IPA: faː.tˤi.mah ib.nat mu.ħam.mad; 615 AD/5 BH– died 28 August 632[4][5][6] [disputed]), commonly known as Fatimah al-Zahra (Arabic: فَاطِمَة ٱلزَّهْر&#161​4;اء‎) was the youngest daughter and, according to Shia Muslims,[10][11][12][13] the only child of the Islamic prophet Muhammad and Khadijah who lived to adulthood, and therefore part of Muhammad's household. Her husband was Ali, the last of the Rightly Guided Caliphs and the first Shia Imam, and her children include Hasan and Husayn, the second and third Imams, respectively.[10][12][14] She is respected and venerated by Muslims, as she was the child closest to her father and supported him in his difficulties.
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Once and for all, for the record Catholics do not pray to Mary. They don't ask Mary to forgive them of their sins, they don't ask Mary to help them get a new job, they don't worship Mary as their savior, they don't think Mary is the only way to heaven, they pray that Mary heals their cancer, they don't pray to Mary to bless them...

As you can see below, this is exactly what they say to Mary,

"Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death.

Amen"

It's no different than asking your neighbor to pray for you. Or the saying, "You're in my Prayers," or how about telling a friend "Dang I was diagnosed with Cancer, pray for me please."

When Baptists say Catholics are hell bound because they pray to Mary, it's because they are repeating a stereotype without doing proper research. Instead of focusing on Mary they should focus on their own heretic doctrine of Once Saved Always Saved bullcrap. Some of these Baptists are so prideful, I heard a boastful sermon from a Pastor that said he never repents because Jesus died on the cross and there's no need to repent.

You want to talk about hellish doctrines cooked up from the kitchens of hell, talk about that one!
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One of the ten commandments:
Honor thy mother and father.

If Jesus honors her, I guess I should too.
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What about honoring Abraham's wife too since the father of our faith is Abraham
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All to bring Muslims and Catholics together.

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The lesson was on adultry. . To this day Issac and Ishmael are still fighting.
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Tell me why the Pope says the woman is Mary but God calls the woman Israel?


6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The woman is Mary until she did her part. The woman in this case is the remnant that is saved.

You must differentiate the two.
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The bigger reason that they are hell bound is they put a man between them and Jesus.

All religion is from Satan.





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