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What being a TRUE Christian means. Love is as Strong as Death

 
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What does Jesus save us from?
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He is that little nightlight in a pitch black moon, the flashlight when you are lost in the woods. The hope when everything is fighting against you and you just can't cope anymore. He is that joy when something goes your way. He is that coincidence that appears when the stars align just the right way.

He shows you the silver lining when things fall apart. He gives you gratitude when you are at your lowest. He gives you a friend to lean on and pour your heart to when you are alone.

He saves you from your darker self, the voice inside of you that tells you, that you can't make it anymore. That everything is meaningless. He shows you the little things in life that are to be enjoyed and appreciated.
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He is that little nightlight in a pitch black moon, the flashlight when you are lost in the woods. The hope when everything is fighting against you and you just can't cope anymore. He is that joy when something goes your way. He is that coincidence that appears when the stars align just the right way.

He shows you the silver lining when things fall apart. He gives you gratitude when you are at your lowest. He gives you a friend to lean on and pour your heart to when you are alone.

He saves you from your darker self, the voice inside of you that tells you, that you can't make it anymore. That everything is meaningless. He shows you the little things in life that are to be enjoyed and appreciated.
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The Parable of the Leaven
32Although it is the smallest of all seeds, yet it grows into the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches.” 33He told them still another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into three measures of flour, until all of it was leavened.” 34Jesus spoke all these things to the crowds in parables. He did not tell them anything without using a parable.…


He picks you up, when you can't go no more. He is that still small voice inside of you telling you to keep going, to keep fighting, to keep believing.

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What does Jesus save us from?
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Hell.
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What does Jesus save us from?
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Hell.
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He is that little nightlight in a pitch black moon, the flashlight when you are lost in the woods. The hope when everything is fighting against you and you just can't cope anymore. He is that joy when something goes your way. He is that coincidence that appears when the stars align just the right way.

He shows you the silver lining when things fall apart. He gives you gratitude when you are at your lowest. He gives you a friend to lean on and pour your heart to when you are alone.

He saves you from your darker self, the voice inside of you that tells you, that you can't make it anymore. That everything is meaningless. He shows you the little things in life that are to be enjoyed and appreciated.
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Hell is exactly what your going through in moments like these. Not a psychical hell, but a mental hell. When you are tired, frustrated, and hopeless.

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What does Jesus save us from?
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Hell.
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He is that little nightlight in a pitch black moon, the flashlight when you are lost in the woods. The hope when everything is fighting against you and you just can't cope anymore. He is that joy when something goes your way. He is that coincidence that appears when the stars align just the right way.

He shows you the silver lining when things fall apart. He gives you gratitude when you are at your lowest. He gives you a friend to lean on and pour your heart to when you are alone.

He saves you from your darker self, the voice inside of you that tells you, that you can't make it anymore. That everything is meaningless. He shows you the little things in life that are to be enjoyed and appreciated.
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Hell is exactly what your going through in moments like these. Not a psychical hell, but a mental hell. When you are tired, frustrated, and hopeless.
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Fail.

Jesus did not incarnate as a man to be brutally murdered

because you feel tired, frustrated and hopeless.

Jesus Christ died so that you don't have to go to hell like you deserve.

Although perhaps you do not believe this,

and are only masquerading...
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What does Jesus save us from?
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Hell.
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He is that little nightlight in a pitch black moon, the flashlight when you are lost in the woods. The hope when everything is fighting against you and you just can't cope anymore. He is that joy when something goes your way. He is that coincidence that appears when the stars align just the right way.

He shows you the silver lining when things fall apart. He gives you gratitude when you are at your lowest. He gives you a friend to lean on and pour your heart to when you are alone.

He saves you from your darker self, the voice inside of you that tells you, that you can't make it anymore. That everything is meaningless. He shows you the little things in life that are to be enjoyed and appreciated.
 Quoting: AceWestfall


Hell is exactly what your going through in moments like these. Not a psychical hell, but a mental hell. When you are tired, frustrated, and hopeless.
 Quoting: AceWestfall


Fail.

Jesus did not incarnate as a man to be brutally murdered

because you feel tired, frustrated and hopeless.

Jesus Christ died so that you don't have to go to hell like you deserve.

Although perhaps you do not believe this,

and are only masquerading...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78238976


Who taught you this? Your dad? Your mom? The preacher that has been taught and indoctrinated in theology school? He preaches for a living, for money to survive.

3However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. 14He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you.…

Matthew 3:11
The Mission of John the Baptist
…10The ax lies ready at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire. 11I baptize you with water for repentance, but after me will come One more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. 12His winnowing fork is in His hand to clear His threshing floor and to gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire
.”…

Song of Solomon 8
For love is strong as death,
jealousy is fierce as the grave.b
Its flashes are flashes of fire,
the very flame of the LORD.
7Many waters cannot quench love,
neither can floods drown it.


22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Jesus was born of God and the Holy Spirit. Telling people to repent or else suffer and be tortured is Fear, and controlling.

A Tree and its Fruit
15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.…


When you read the scriptures and think of fear and punishment, and always cling to the idea of Hell, you are being taught by Satan, not Jesus. You are being taught out of fear and obedience. Not love, forgiveness, and peace. He was killed and murdered, not for us to be saved. But to be shown that true love forgives even when you are being tortured and murdered. He used the cross as an example, that Jesus had perfect love, and followed what he preached, to turn the other cheek. To not have an "eye for an eye" attitude. He not only spoke and taught the truth, HE LIVED IT.

Luke 23:34 New International Version (NIV)
34 Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”[a] And they divided up his clothes by casting lots


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Hell is exactly what your going through in moments like these. Not a psychical hell, but a mental hell. When you are tired, frustrated, and hopeless.
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Despite getting the idea all wrong,

you also got the words all wrong.

Here, learn something:

You are going through


You're going through


Not a psychical hell, but a mental hell


You mean "physical", as in Olivia Newton John Let's Get Physical...

Psychical is like psychic. Psychic is like mind-reader... Psychical is mental. See why that matters now with what you said?
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Also, why are you speaking?

Apparently, you should be learning a lot first...



Jesus... hell... yeah, that matters...
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What will you say to the person that believes you,

but then finds themselves in hell despite what you said?

We're not really here. We're just tired and frustrated?
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Hell is for those that hate God.


So where do YOU say God-haters go?
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"Yes, Jesus was a hell-fire preacher. When we talk about salvation, the word has to be used…the word has to be used because we’re talking about rescue. Salvation is a word that means deliverance or rescue and the question is…from what? Contemporary kind of corrupted Christianity would offer many psychological and even material substitutes for hell. We would say, “Well, Jesus wants to save me from loneliness or He wants to save you from purposelessness, or He wants to save you from anxiety, or He wants to save you from poverty, or He wants to save you from failure, or He wants to save you from sickness, or He wants to save you from disappointment. No, no, He desires to save you from hell, from the fiery hell, the lake of fire that is eternal. The message of Scripture is that salvation is a rescue, a rescue from a real place called hell."

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Hell is a place, its unpleasant. But everybody imagine's hell as TORTURE PHYSICAL PAIN. It's a place of sorrow and regret. They hate themselves because they missed out. They still have pride that doom's them, and their pride makes them think they deserve to be with the Lord. But because they didnt make it they hate god with passion. With Fire. A lake of fire. They gain all this wisdom and see what god's true message was.

Jesus gives us the waters of life, the wisdom of life. To love each other and help each other. To teach the gospel.

Water is wisdom,
fire is passion.

hence a lake of fire. Where we see the meaning of Jesus's teaching, and we reject his teaching and hate his teaching.
His teaching says physical wealth and power won't mean a damn thing. In the book of Ecclessiastes Solomon says nothing new is done under the sun, our wealth and memory (fame) means nothing.

In hell they will hate god with a passion knowing his teaching and reject them, feeling as if their interpretation was better.

Jesus spoke in PARABLES.

The Beginning

(Genesis 1:1-2)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

The Witness of John

(Malachi 3:1-5)

6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

9That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

Where do you draw your wisdom from? From what people have taught you? From what you have read? Or have you for years and years seeked out god in something other than the Bible. Only to return to the bible and see that what Jesus taught was true. Only people twist its meaning.

To the Church in Laodicea
…16So because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to vomit you out of My mouth! 17You say, ‘I am rich; I have grown wealthy and need nothing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. 18I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, white garments so that you may be clothed and your shameful nakedness not exposed, and salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.…


So if i take things the literal way, i guess Jesus wants me to buy literal Gold. Literal wealth.

I counsel you to go through the fire's of passion of seeking out god, through the suffering and disappointment of seeing the deception and lies. The hopelessness that life is meaningless, that I don't deserve to know the truth. The fires of life. The trials and tribulations.

Have you been through the fire? Have you been tried and testing, have you persecuted your own soul and your beliefs? Have you dropped your pride, and admitted that you don't understand, and honestly asked for a teacher a guide. Have you refused to learn from men, to only be taught by spirit.

That is when your eyes begin to open, and you learn. And after a while, this passion, this divine spark in you becomes a blaze, and you WANT to go preach the gospel, and heal the sick among us.





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