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Message Subject Challenge to atheists and evolutionists to find 3 things *Challenge is now open to all*
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Ok, I see the game you're playing. Beg the question/shift the burden of proof.

I have no reason to think that every oil stain is placed there intentionally by God for a purpose. But I can't disprove that. You can't prove it has a purpose, you can't disprove that it has no purpose. But you presuppose it. Just because.

In this scenario, one of us believes something without a reason, and it's not me.

I can show you things that are random by the dictionary definition, or the product of chance, but I will agree that the outcome is determined by natural laws and a chain of cause and effect. Some Quantum phenomena does appear to be truly 'random', without any detectable cause, but it's possible there are causes outside of human perception.

Congratulations. I can never answer your challenge to your satisfaction. Even if something truly was created without a purpose, and I showed it to you, I could never disprove your presupposition. This is what scientists call an unjustifiable hypothesis.

You're still not one step closer to providing evidence for your god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78225484


I challenged you, but thanks for the nice post.

I proved every oil stain has a purpose by declaring it is to be talked about here and now. A purpose does not have to be tangible. Now, am I being reasonable or unreasonable?

I don't believe anything without reason, why say that I do?

It's not about answering my challenge to my satisfaction. Truth is truth and logical people should come to the same conclusion, that talking about something automatically, at the least, is it's apparent purpose. And even if no one existed everything would still have purpose. Even in God where infiniteness exists I believe this, everything has purpose.

I'm sorry that you saw this challenge as a challenge to my "ego" or "arrogance" or "superiority". How different would you feel if I challenged you to solve a complex math problem? Would you think I was being arrogant? Not everything is a competition.

Chill out and exercise your brain by thinking deeper about things. If it hurts your brain then know that I am not the one hurting your brain. Lighten up.

I have proof of God. In fact, this thread is me sharing evidence of my God. Although you have found it you don't recognize it, like finding a bone not knowing what it is or what it goes to or if it goes to a skeleton then which part. Seek evidence of God. When you find enough then theorize the logical conclusion and accept it as truth, like evolutionary theorists and scientists do, without proof. They find comfort in accepting what cannot ever be proven as truth.
 Quoting: Jesus is also the Father God


Declaring something to be true is not proof. Surely you understand this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227728


I know there's no proof of evolution.
 Quoting: Jesus is also the Father God


I think you mean 'presuppose'. Evolution is directly observable in the present. Science is not absolute, but we can devise tests to determine what likely occurred in the past.
 
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