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Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.

 
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Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
I really do believe that folks need to actually take a look at POstmillenialism. Dispensational Premillennialism really has a lot to do with the conundrum we find ourselves in as a people. “We dont have to worry about the marxists and communists taking over our country and flooding it with people that hate us becasue Christ is coming back next week!!!!”

This is a problem folks. Those who have ears let them hear just look into postmillenialism as opposed to premillennialism. That is all I am asking. I look forward to a scriptural dialogue with you here.

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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
Christ will return for the saints after the tribulation. I believe in premillennialism but post tribulationism. The early church believed and taught the same. Historic premillennialism is the only eschatology that entirely agrees with the scriptures.
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GOD IS LOVE

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WHEN YOU ACCEPT HIM

HE IS IN YOU

GO AND DO HIS WORKS

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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
You either have faith in Jesus or you don't. You are a believer or you are not. Nothing else matters. If you take the mark you will not be permitted in heaven. Many deceivers at the end times. Fight the evil and wicked with everything you have till your time comes. All we can do. Killing the evil people is not a sin. Fight my brothers. Do not be fed to packs of wild dogs for the amusement of Satan's followers. Go out in the glory of battle for your lord and savior.
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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
Christ will return for the saints after the tribulation. I believe in premillennialism but post tribulationism. The early church believed and taught the same. Historic premillennialism is the only eschatology that entirely agrees with the scriptures.
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^^I agree with this^^ for the same reason. It's scripturally sound & complies with early church fathers.
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“We dont have to worry about the marxists and communists taking over our country and flooding it with people that hate us becasue Christ is coming back next week!!!!”

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can you explain how, where, or from whom you are getting next week from?

thanks
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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
It's at the end of the 'millennium' when Satan is unbound to deceive the nations...looking around at the level of deception and the speed with which it is increasing ...I'd lean towards it being the time.

The religions of this world preach a coming golden age.. how appropriate would it be that we are actually near the end of it instead?
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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
Christ will return for the saints after the tribulation. I believe in premillennialism but post tribulationism. The early church believed and taught the same. Historic premillennialism is the only eschatology that entirely agrees with the scriptures.
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^^I agree with this^^ for the same reason. It's scripturally sound & complies with early church fathers.
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Oh, yes, because it "complies with early church fathers"! Good for you!

...And so the Catholics also find reasons to believe in purgatory, transubstantiation, baptismal regeneration, and the sacraments because of the heresies of the "early church fathers" writings.
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"Jesus is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Act 4:11-12
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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
Christ will return for the saints after the tribulation. I believe in premillennialism but post tribulationism. The early church believed and taught the same. Historic premillennialism is the only eschatology that entirely agrees with the scriptures.
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^^I agree with this^^ for the same reason. It's scripturally sound & complies with early church fathers.
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Oh, yes, because it "complies with early church fathers"! Good for you!

...And so the Catholics also find reasons to believe in purgatory, transubstantiation, baptismal regeneration, and the sacraments because of the heresies of the "early church fathers" writings.
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Perhaps you missed the "&" symbol...
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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
Christ will return for the saints after the tribulation. I believe in premillennialism but post tribulationism. The early church believed and taught the same. Historic premillennialism is the only eschatology that entirely agrees with the scriptures.
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^^I agree with this^^ for the same reason. It's scripturally sound & complies with early church fathers.
 Quoting: Click Here Again


Oh, yes, because it "complies with early church fathers"! Good for you!

...And so the Catholics also find reasons to believe in purgatory, transubstantiation, baptismal regeneration, and the sacraments because of the heresies of the "early church fathers" writings.
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Perhaps you missed the "&" symbol...
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I didn't miss a thing. It wouldn't matter if you didn't include the "&". Using the Early Church Fathers to validate your pet doctrines instead of relying on proper exegetical study of the Bible is what makes a heretic.



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"Jesus is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Act 4:11-12
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“We dont have to worry about the marxists and communists taking over our country and flooding it with people that hate us becasue Christ is coming back next week!!!!”

 Quoting: ruGoat Loverm


can you explain how, where, or from whom you are getting next week from?

thanks
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I think OP was saying those who believe in "the rapture," or premillenialism believe that Christ is coming - any day now - to "rescue" them from all the TRIBULATION. That believers are not going to go through the tribulation.

I'm somewhat in the same camp as the op. I DO NOT believe the Bible tells us that we will "escape" any such tribulation. I think anyone who does has twisted scripture to say that, and they believe it just so they can relax and think they will get out of here untouched by the evils coming our way.

I would wish that were true, but I do not believe the Bible says that.
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^^I agree with this^^ for the same reason. It's scripturally sound & complies with early church fathers.
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Oh, yes, because it "complies with early church fathers"! Good for you!

...And so the Catholics also find reasons to believe in purgatory, transubstantiation, baptismal regeneration, and the sacraments because of the heresies of the "early church fathers" writings.
 Quoting: Grundig


Perhaps you missed the "&" symbol...
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I didn't miss a thing. It wouldn't matter if you didn't include the "&". Using the Early Church Fathers to validate your pet doctrines instead of relying on proper exegetical study of the Bible is what makes a heretic.



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Ok. So what in your opinion constitutes "proper" exegetical study and how did you come to this conclusion? I personally don't just "take" the doctrines of any man, especially if it's contradictory to Jesus' teaching or Paul's clarifications. If coincidentally enough the early church fathers agree with what scripture states then wonderful. If not, great. In the end, it's not "their" word that matters, it's His Word.
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Oh, yes, because it "complies with early church fathers"! Good for you!

...And so the Catholics also find reasons to believe in purgatory, transubstantiation, baptismal regeneration, and the sacraments because of the heresies of the "early church fathers" writings.
 Quoting: Grundig


Perhaps you missed the "&" symbol...
 Quoting: Click Here Again


I didn't miss a thing. It wouldn't matter if you didn't include the "&". Using the Early Church Fathers to validate your pet doctrines instead of relying on proper exegetical study of the Bible is what makes a heretic.



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 Quoting: Grundig


Ok. So what in your opinion constitutes "proper" exegetical study and how did you come to this conclusion? I personally don't just "take" the doctrines of any man, especially if it's contradictory to Jesus' teaching or Paul's clarifications. If coincidentally enough the early church fathers agree with what scripture states then wonderful. If not, great. In the end, it's not "their" word that matters, it's His Word.
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If that's your attitude ("...early church fathers agree...wonderful. If not, great...") why enthusiastically write "It's scripturally sound & complies with early church fathers"? - unless you are trying to deceive some that are not familar with their writings into thinking that the whole of the early church were post-millennialists. Complying with some of the writings of the early church fathers is irrelevant. You know, Premillennialism is also found in their writings.



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"Jesus is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Act 4:11-12
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Perhaps you missed the "&" symbol...
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I didn't miss a thing. It wouldn't matter if you didn't include the "&". Using the Early Church Fathers to validate your pet doctrines instead of relying on proper exegetical study of the Bible is what makes a heretic.



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 Quoting: Grundig


Ok. So what in your opinion constitutes "proper" exegetical study and how did you come to this conclusion? I personally don't just "take" the doctrines of any man, especially if it's contradictory to Jesus' teaching or Paul's clarifications. If coincidentally enough the early church fathers agree with what scripture states then wonderful. If not, great. In the end, it's not "their" word that matters, it's His Word.
 Quoting: Click Here Again


If that's your attitude ("...early church fathers agree...wonderful. If not, great...") why enthusiastically write "It's scripturally sound & complies with early church fathers"? - unless you are trying to deceive some that are not familar with their writings into thinking that the whole of the early church were post-millennialists. Complying with some of the writings of the early church fathers is irrelevant. You know, Premillennialism is also found in their writings.



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Oh well I never said ALL of the early church fathers & my apologies if my statement implied that. I'm not trying to deceive anyone & I highly recommend that everyone reading this to ignore everything ANY of us say & READ THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES. It sounds like we don't necessarily disagree on anything. I probably could have worded it better/differently though.
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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
Here is a good video on it.

The spirit of the Antichrist, is Marxism


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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
I really do believe that folks need to actually take a look at POstmillenialism. Dispensational Premillennialism really has a lot to do with the conundrum we find ourselves in as a people. “We dont have to worry about the marxists and communists taking over our country and flooding it with people that hate us becasue Christ is coming back next week!!!!”

This is a problem folks. Those who have ears let them hear just look into postmillenialism as opposed to premillennialism. That is all I am asking. I look forward to a scriptural dialogue with you here.

Much love In Him
 Quoting: ruGoat Loverm


Straw man, Goat Lover. Wrong, you are.

Jesus directed us to "make disciples of all nations" - followers of Jesus preach the Gospel, or at the very least, support its propagation. Jesus is the cure for Marxism. Pre-Millennialist are not waiting around for Jesus to rescue us from the Communists - Christians are actually the only people actively doing the only thing that brings real peace.

...And when Jesus comes to take His bride, it will be at a time when sin has "reached its fullness" and world will not hear the Gospel any longer.



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"Jesus is ‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’

Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Act 4:11-12
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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
I really do believe that folks need to actually take a look at POstmillenialism. Dispensational Premillennialism really has a lot to do with the conundrum we find ourselves in as a people. “We dont have to worry about the marxists and communists taking over our country and flooding it with people that hate us becasue Christ is coming back next week!!!!”

This is a problem folks. Those who have ears let them hear just look into postmillenialism as opposed to premillennialism. That is all I am asking. I look forward to a scriptural dialogue with you here.

Much love In Him
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Post Millennialism can only be defended if you Spiritualize the Scriptures.

A literal interpretation leads to Premillennialism solely.

A literal interpretation is the only one worth living for and dying for and basing your eternal destiny on...
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Re: Attn: Christians. Please rethink your eschatology.
I really do believe that folks need to actually take a look at POstmillenialism. Dispensational Premillennialism really has a lot to do with the conundrum we find ourselves in as a people. “We dont have to worry about the marxists and communists taking over our country and flooding it with people that hate us becasue Christ is coming back next week!!!!”

This is a problem folks. Those who have ears let them hear just look into postmillenialism as opposed to premillennialism. That is all I am asking. I look forward to a scriptural dialogue with you here.

Much love In Him
 Quoting: ruGoat Loverm


Post Millennialism can only be defended if you Spiritualize the Scriptures.

A literal interpretation leads to Premillennialism solely.

A literal interpretation is the only one worth living for and dying for and basing your eternal destiny on...
 Quoting: Theoferrum 74339157


The bible gave you stories as parallels to future events

if you haven't figured that out yet, you are lost
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GOD IS LOVE

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THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

WHEN YOU ACCEPT HIM

HE IS IN YOU

GO AND DO HIS WORKS

WHICH IS

TO TAKE BACK YOUR INHERITANCE

THE EARTH
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