NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78068184 12/06/2019 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78068184 12/06/2019 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Magnetic north is not where it used to be. Since 2015, the place to which a compass points has been sprinting toward Siberia at a pace of more than 30 miles (48 kilometres) a year. And this week, after a delay caused by the month-long partial government shutdown in the United States, humans have finally caught up. [link to www.sciencealert.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78068184 12/06/2019 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) The planet's magnetic field is generated nearly 2,000 miles (3,200 kilometres) beneath our feet, in the swirling, spinning ball of molten metal that forms Earth's core. Changes in that underground flow can alter Earth's magnetic field lines - and the poles where they converge. Consequently, magnetic north doesn't align with geographic north (the end point of Earth's rotational axis), and it's constantly on the move. Records of ancient magnetic fields from extremely old rocks show that the poles can even flip - an event that has occurred an average of three times every million years. The first expedition to find magnetic north, in 1831, pinpointed it in the Canadian Arctic. By the time the US Army went looking for the pole in the late 1940s, it had shifted 250 miles (400 kilometres) to the northwest. Since 1990, it has moved a whopping 600 miles (970 kilometres), and it can be found in the middle of the Arctic Ocean, 4 degrees south of geographic north - for the moment. Curiously, the south magnetic pole hasn't mirrored the peregrinations of its northern counterpart. Since 1990, its location has remained relatively stable, off the coast of eastern Antarctica. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78068184 12/06/2019 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) The planet's magnetic field is generated nearly 2,000 miles (3,200 kilometres) beneath our feet, in the swirling, spinning ball of molten metal that forms Earth's core. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068184 Changes in that underground flow can alter Earth's magnetic field lines - and the poles where they converge. Consequently, magnetic north doesn't align with geographic north (the end point of Earth's rotational axis), and it's constantly on the move. Records of ancient magnetic fields from extremely old rocks show that the poles can even flip - an event that has occurred an average of three times every million years. The first expedition to find magnetic north, in 1831, pinpointed it in the Canadian Arctic. By the time the US Army went looking for the pole in the late 1940s, it had shifted 250 miles (400 kilometres) to the northwest. Since 1990, it has moved a whopping 600 miles (970 kilometres), and it can be found in the middle of the Arctic Ocean, 4 degrees south of geographic north - for the moment. Curiously, the south magnetic pole hasn't mirrored the peregrinations of its northern counterpart. Since 1990, its location has remained relatively stable, off the coast of eastern Antarctica. I am pretty sure the last paragraph means when North goes so far and south stays the same we get some serious doom. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78131998 Canada 12/06/2019 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Paleomagnetic signatures in the area’s rocks indicate that sometime between 174 and 157 million years ago, the whole region shifted southward by a startling 25 degrees, plunging once lush landscapes into zones of desiccating heat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068184 Hapgood's data showed more frequent reversals but all the shifts were close to, but less than 30 degrees. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76538212 United States 12/06/2019 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) A female scientist was looking at rocks and soil and came upon some small bone fragments and collected them for further study. In the lab the fragments tested as CAMEL. What more proof do we need? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78083599 United States 12/06/2019 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) The planet's magnetic field is generated nearly 2,000 miles (3,200 kilometres) beneath our feet, in the swirling, spinning ball of molten metal that forms Earth's core. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068184 Changes in that underground flow can alter Earth's magnetic field lines - and the poles where they converge. Consequently, magnetic north doesn't align with geographic north (the end point of Earth's rotational axis), and it's constantly on the move. Records of ancient magnetic fields from extremely old rocks show that the poles can even flip - an event that has occurred an average of three times every million years. The first expedition to find magnetic north, in 1831, pinpointed it in the Canadian Arctic. By the time the US Army went looking for the pole in the late 1940s, it had shifted 250 miles (400 kilometres) to the northwest. Since 1990, it has moved a whopping 600 miles (970 kilometres), and it can be found in the middle of the Arctic Ocean, 4 degrees south of geographic north - for the moment. Curiously, the south magnetic pole hasn't mirrored the peregrinations of its northern counterpart. Since 1990, its location has remained relatively stable, off the coast of eastern Antarctica. I am pretty sure the last paragraph means when North goes so far and south stays the same we get some serious doom. That is what I was thinking. It will push and push and then the south will flip accordingly, quickly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76246076 United Kingdom 12/06/2019 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) ... Quoting: Louis in Richmond I was about to repin it but I see 26 pins already--too many. Maybe I repin tomorrow for the weekend members and guests? As long as it remains interesting, I'm game. Okay! What time do you want it pinned? Noon tomorrow. Do you mind if I share your image on my twatter account? |
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Louis in Richmond
That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 74627261 United States 12/06/2019 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) ... Quoting: Louis in Richmond I was about to repin it but I see 26 pins already--too many. Maybe I repin tomorrow for the weekend members and guests? As long as it remains interesting, I'm game. Okay! What time do you want it pinned? Noon tomorrow. You got it Skip. Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
carterCZ
User ID: 77590299 United States 12/06/2019 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Just because the MAGNETIC pole is shifting doesn’t mean the actual poles will shift. If the earth actually flips we’re all dead. Historically the magnetic poles have flipped multiple times without any evidence of crust displacement. If the earth was close to flipping their should be sign of impending stresses. The number of earthquake over 6.0 are close to the yearly average. So DOOM is unlikely. When I look at the predicted path of the magnetic north, it shows the movement slowing done. The distance after 2020 is much less. Where in the world do they get this. If it’s based on some theory of cause, what is it? carterCZ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76715453 United States 12/06/2019 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) The angle of the earth in relation to the sun has been around 22.5 apparently forever--give or take a single degree. The magnetic poles have shifted possibly thousands of times--with zero effect on the actual angle of the earth to the sun. Why would anyone believe that the earth would turn sideways is beyond me. The continents are going to slide 180 degrees? Total bullshit. Perhaps this could be inserted into a flat earth thread. 1 star. Now, if your primary concern regarding the possible coming magnetic pole shift was loss of access to GLP, well, I would share your concern. Even that is not a certain outcome. It is still not known exactly how long such a shift takes. Clearly, one day would cause more problems than if it took 800 years. I am not worried about it at this juncture. |
Broose
Beach User ID: 72594332 United States 12/06/2019 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) This may be why Russia fucking with Arctic building bases is such a big deal. Lets also not forget Trump wanting to buy Greenland. I would say watch for people buying real estate far north if the shift is going to go this direction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068184 Rockefeller Mountains Antarctica [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 74627261 United States 12/06/2019 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
MarPep
User ID: 78215453 United States 12/06/2019 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) How can anyone think that the slow movement of magnetic north closer to true North is somehow indicating some kind of "pole reversal"? _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
Skip. (OP) User ID: 65507635 United States 12/07/2019 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) If you read what the government scientists thought the north magnetic pole would do in the 1940's and then look at what it is actually doing now... They were 100% right so far. [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 12/07/2019 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Magnetic north is not where it used to be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068184 Since 2015, the place to which a compass points has been sprinting toward Siberia at a pace of more than 30 miles (48 kilometres) a year. And this week, after a delay caused by the month-long partial government shutdown in the United States, humans have finally caught up. [link to www.sciencealert.com (secure)] will i have to get my compass recalibrated? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75583697 United States 12/07/2019 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Here are the predicted locations of the north magnetic pole for 2020-2025 with a new map that I just made: Quoting: Skip. 65507635 164.036 86.502 2020.000 157.690 86.415 2021.000 151.948 86.294 2022.000 146.826 86.146 2023.000 142.293 85.980 2024.000 138.299 85.801 2025.000 New Map: [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] [link to www.ngdc.noaa.gov (secure)] Any pilot or ship captain knows N and Magnetic N. Nothing new. |
Skip. (OP) User ID: 65507635 United States 12/07/2019 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) If you read what the government scientists thought the north magnetic pole would do in the 1940's and then look at what it is actually doing now... Quoting: Skip. 65507635 They were 100% right so far. [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] Zoom in and read the text from the first image. Then look at the map in the next image. The scientists from the Rand corporation nailed it. Can those two images be embedded so that the first one can be easily read? If the scientists continue to be right, it won't be much longer now until the flip. |
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Skip. (OP) User ID: 65507635 United States 12/07/2019 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Magnetic north is not where it used to be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78068184 Since 2015, the place to which a compass points has been sprinting toward Siberia at a pace of more than 30 miles (48 kilometres) a year. And this week, after a delay caused by the month-long partial government shutdown in the United States, humans have finally caught up. [link to www.sciencealert.com (secure)] will i have to get my compass recalibrated? A little late for that aren't you? |
Skip. (OP) User ID: 65507635 United States 12/07/2019 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) I've been waiting 5 years for this information. While everyone else was thinking about phony elections, I was waiting for this day to happen. Quoting: Skip. 65507635 Just wait until 2021 I'm waiting for the announcement from NOAA that their 2020 model is inaccurate and they will have to make an unscheduled update. They had to do that in February for the 2015 model. It couldn't wait until December because it was off by too much. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75311439 United States 12/07/2019 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Is there talk in the book, about the actual "turn" of the point? Did they mention a duration? Your image showing where it was located in 2010, the arc inside that last circle makes you wonder... I grabbed all your images of the book, and re-posted them on my site as well to read and for safe keeping. Look under "Deeper Mysteries". Click the asterisk once there. :) |
Skip. (OP) User ID: 65507635 United States 12/07/2019 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) I would have made a new map for the magnetic south pole for 2025 but it isn't showing much predicted movement. It's still moving much slower than magnetic north. [link to wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp] |
Skip. (OP) User ID: 65507635 United States 12/07/2019 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NOAA Will Announce the New Predicted Locations of the Magnetic Poles for 2020-2025 on December 10th. (WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW RIGHT NOW?) Is there talk in the book, about the actual "turn" of the point? Did they mention a duration? Your image showing where it was located in 2010, the arc inside that last circle makes you wonder... I grabbed all your images of the book, and re-posted them on my site as well to read and for safe keeping. Look under "Deeper Mysteries". Click the asterisk once there. :) The book said that magnetic north would "rapidly flip around" the Earth's geographical pole. No other time estimate was given that I found. [link to i.imgur.com (secure)] It is still moving very quickly and has just started its turn. We'll have to keep watching it. |