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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78222332 Sweden 12/09/2019 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think my problem was my naivety along with being an empath. I thought everyone had a heart Quoting: Rabbit2019 Yet in the OP, you deliberately discard all people that don't belong to your cult- people who "don't pray"- by categorizing them as "heartless". Well done. You deserved the "I'm-a-pathetic-narcissist" Award: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78236375 Canada 12/09/2019 05:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they're not. They fail to think logically and place emotions on top of rational. I despise empaths. The world is better off without them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78145775 Maybe the people you've encountered were not empaths. Most of us are shy and but we're always there to listen and we're careful to not upset the balance. It's hard but we rarely think of ourselves first and help others around us first, we are usually the first to get hurt.. repeatedly. You have nothing to worry about friend. Our lesson is different than most... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78222332 Sweden 12/09/2019 05:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78222332 THIS It's all about balance. Christ turds lack that. Sorry, OP. But not really. The experience of living comes from motion which is a product of imbalance, so if you're writing that "it" is all about balance, you mean that it is all about death. You're correct on that point. Everything points to the death state of perfect equilibrium (nonvibration). Those who follow Christ follow him to public ridicule and possibly gruesome death on a (metaphorical, if it must be) cross. When you ridicule Christ or his followers, as he said you would, you become a servant of their metaphysics called a "vessel of wrath", which is someone who washes their feet but never gets to sit at their table. It truly is a sorry way to be. I see you feel really special. As long as you can enjoy that, I'm happy for you! Now, leave me be me. I am that I am. Thank you. You can see what "you" feels? Or is that your feeling in your gut there, or perhaps your chest? Is it a reaction to feeling like a fool after you realize the Christians had bamboozled you into sending them your energy? Me is me, true. You is you, true. "I am that..." means a speaker objectifies their self. I am WHO I am. Thank Me. You talk nonsense Poor you, totally deranged. |
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(OP) User ID: 73126388 United States 12/09/2019 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think my problem was my naivety along with being an empath. I thought everyone had a heart Quoting: Rabbit2019 Yet in the OP, you deliberately discard all people that don't belong to your cult- people who "don't pray"- by categorizing them as "heartless". Well done. You deserved the "I'm-a-pathetic-narcissist" Award: You misunderstood. I'm asking if God looks after empathetic peopl. Most empathetic people I know pray. It's people who go through life bullying others that dont need God or the universe to work in their lives. Huh |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78236375 Canada 12/09/2019 05:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78145775 I've suffered , but my emotions never overcome my ability to think critically and logically Can you define empathy? Placing yourself in the shoes of Someone else . That's empathy. However, empaths can never ever think rationally or logically. Even when faced with emotional or physically abuse. I despise that from them. They are the last person to deserve that but they easily fall victim. ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78145775 I've suffered , but my emotions never overcome my ability to think critically and logically Can you define empathy? Placing yourself in the shoes of Someone else . That's empathy. However, empaths can never ever think rationally or logically. Even when faced with emotional or physically abuse. I despise that from them. They are the last person to deserve that but they easily fall victim. The problem is that you give things a label. You have formed an opinion of something that you have no idea about. This is your term. A well rounded person in God puts themselves in other’s shoes, uses emotion correctly, as it is natural, and can still be completely logical. Sometimes we may experience heightened emotions, due to circumstances, we may error. Has this never happened to you? All emotions are necessary and no one’s perfect. Trying to get rid of certain emotions is not going to do you any favours in the long run. A walk with Jesus will renew. People who experience empathy regularly are functioning more completely, this is the truth, but it is not the entirety of a person. Personal judgement without weighing things correctly (using God’s word) just creates confusion, more division etc. I appreciate your truth friend. |
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LilMiss
User ID: 76614166 United States 12/09/2019 05:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In your experience, does God care about the empath? People who have no heart take care of themselves and dont even pray ...empaths dont usually think about themselves at all. And they are usually treated as if they aren't there Quoting: Rabbit2019 If you are an empath your most important job is do learn to take care of yourself and your energy and also to learn how to detach. As an empath I have always believed that I am here to be of service to others. I believe in Karma so I know that although it may not always seem like it, the good I do will be returned. Burn out and fatigue can happen to empaths if they don't learn how to protect themselves from psychic vampires and it is very important to learn methods to detach from others and protect your energy. I have found through my own experience it is important to be in a job where you can show empathy but also feel supported and valued by your work colleagues. It took a long time to find this but when I did it made all the difference. Well said. |
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sonik User ID: 74533487 United States 12/09/2019 05:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see you feel really special. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78222332 As long as you can enjoy that, I'm happy for you! Now, leave me be me. I am that I am. Thank you. You can see what "you" feels? Or is that your feeling in your gut there, or perhaps your chest? Is it a reaction to feeling like a fool after you realize the Christians had bamboozled you into sending them your energy? Me is me, true. You is you, true. "I am that..." means a speaker objectifies their self. I am WHO I am. Thank Me. You talk nonsense Poor you, totally deranged. Those who have eyes to read and brains with which to comprehend can see which individual is the one talking nonsense. After reading what was written once or twice more an individual will be overcome with negative feelings and their interlocutor, who is the sonik writing these words, will forget them from existence. Keep in mind I gave you some valuable intelligence for liberating your self from the Christian dogmas. I gave that to you without asking for anything in return. :) By the way, "I am that I am" is from among the Christian dogmas. It doesn't matter who used it first. The Christians own it now. |
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LilMiss
User ID: 76614166 United States 12/09/2019 05:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to be an empath myself, but it was a burden and it was known to be a dysfunction rather than a blessing within myself. It felt like I didn't exist and like I had little to no control over my own life, feelings, thoughts, etc. It all stemmed from my abusive childhood. For instance, I used to have to know within a couple seconds of entering a room if it was safe to stay there or not by noticing exactly how my father was breathing while he was sitting in his chair and how the room felt emotionally. Certain breathing patterns meant it was safe and I could stay while others meant it was safe to stay as long as I acted a certain way and others meant that he was looking for someone to dump all his issues onto so it was best to leave immediately. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78204249 Being highly skilled at reading a room or reading the emotions of a person was a learned skill born out of necessity for me. My mother used to take on everyone's pain as her own and then act as if she was basically a victim just like the other person the event was actually happening to. She tried to train me to be like her and she has always acted as if not being tied to the whims of my emotions was evidence that I was heartless and thus she was godly and pure because she didn't do that. I have slowly let most of my empathic abilities go naturally as I have healed from the traumas of my chidhood. I now find comfort in my own mind, thoughts, faith, etc. I still feel empathy for myself and others, but only in situations where I feel like God wants me to do something. In other situations, I feel very little connection, and that enables me to live a much more balanced and healthy feeling life. Everyone else's problems are not my problems and that's the way it should be. When I need to be able to get something done in a emergency situation, I can now also shut off my emotions completely and focus on the task at hand and save any emotional processing I will need to do for a later time when it is no longer an emergency. When I was younger I would just absorb and feel the same pain that everyone around me felt and it would largely hamstring me from being of any use to the emergency situation at all. I think many if not most empaths are deeply traumatized people that instead of working to heal that brokenness and trauma have instead chosen to convince themselves that they are actually a special group of superior people that others should aspire to be more like and if that happens the world will be a better place. It wouldn't. There is almost always a ego aspect to empaths, where they want others to look up to them. I consider empaths to be the emotional equivalent of the arrogant intellectual, that thinks he is better and wiser than everyone else because he has three degrees even though he can't even change a flat tire, get along with normal people, or do much of anything himself in the real world. This is very helpful and insightful. I agree with you. I do not. That last paragraph is a total generalization, and obviously this poster has had an issue with someone, and decided to 'damn the lot.' You are not that perceptive if you cling to generalities. (Not @ you, OP.) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78222332 Sweden 12/09/2019 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way, "I am that I am" is from among the Christian dogmas. It doesn't matter who used it first. The Christians own it now. Quoting: sonik 74533487 Ain't it funny? Why should "Christians" "own" that now? I try to avoid thinking in boxes and Dogma's. I don't see it as a Dogma to begin with. I live my own perceptions. Everybody says something interesting, sometimes. You just did as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78222332 Sweden 12/09/2019 05:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think my problem was my naivety along with being an empath. I thought everyone had a heart Quoting: Rabbit2019 Yet in the OP, you deliberately discard all people that don't belong to your cult- people who "don't pray"- by categorizing them as "heartless". Well done. You deserved the "I'm-a-pathetic-narcissist" Award: You misunderstood. I'm asking if God looks after empathetic peopl. Most empathetic people I know pray. It's people who go through life bullying others that dont need God or the universe to work in their lives. Of course, the narc always blames the other. So that's exactly what you did. |
Rabbit2019
(OP) User ID: 73126388 United States 12/09/2019 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think my problem was my naivety along with being an empath. I thought everyone had a heart Quoting: Rabbit2019 Yet in the OP, you deliberately discard all people that don't belong to your cult- people who "don't pray"- by categorizing them as "heartless". Well done. You deserved the "I'm-a-pathetic-narcissist" Award: You misunderstood. I'm asking if God looks after empathetic peopl. Most empathetic people I know pray. It's people who go through life bullying others that dont need God or the universe to work in their lives. Of course, the narc always blames the other. So that's exactly what you did. Alright. I will not argue. I will restate , most ppl who are empathetic are not bullies. They aren't evil. So they have to pray for divine assistance in the universe, not all pray or have faith, but to those that do... do you experience the delivering God in your life. Sorry that I did not explain that well, I'm not the best communicator. I'm not calling people who dont pray narcs or psychopaths. Not at all Huh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78222332 Sweden 12/09/2019 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78222332 Yet in the OP, you deliberately discard all people that don't belong to your cult- people who "don't pray"- by categorizing them as "heartless". Well done. You deserved the "I'm-a-pathetic-narcissist" Award: You misunderstood. I'm asking if God looks after empathetic peopl. Most empathetic people I know pray. It's people who go through life bullying others that dont need God or the universe to work in their lives. Of course, the narc always blames the other. So that's exactly what you did. Alright. I will not argue. I will restate , most ppl who are empathetic are not bullies. They aren't evil. So they have to pray for divine assistance in the universe, not all pray or have faith, but to those that do... do you experience the delivering God in your life. Sorry that I did not explain that well, I'm not the best communicator. I'm not calling people who dont pray narcs or psychopaths. Not at all With every response you make, you confirm my observation. Good luck! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78204249 United States 12/09/2019 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to be an empath myself, but it was a burden and it was known to be a dysfunction rather than a blessing within myself. It felt like I didn't exist and like I had little to no control over my own life, feelings, thoughts, etc. It all stemmed from my abusive childhood. For instance, I used to have to know within a couple seconds of entering a room if it was safe to stay there or not by noticing exactly how my father was breathing while he was sitting in his chair and how the room felt emotionally. Certain breathing patterns meant it was safe and I could stay while others meant it was safe to stay as long as I acted a certain way and others meant that he was looking for someone to dump all his issues onto so it was best to leave immediately. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78204249 Being highly skilled at reading a room or reading the emotions of a person was a learned skill born out of necessity for me. My mother used to take on everyone's pain as her own and then act as if she was basically a victim just like the other person the event was actually happening to. She tried to train me to be like her and she has always acted as if not being tied to the whims of my emotions was evidence that I was heartless and thus she was godly and pure because she didn't do that. I have slowly let most of my empathic abilities go naturally as I have healed from the traumas of my chidhood. I now find comfort in my own mind, thoughts, faith, etc. I still feel empathy for myself and others, but only in situations where I feel like God wants me to do something. In other situations, I feel very little connection, and that enables me to live a much more balanced and healthy feeling life. Everyone else's problems are not my problems and that's the way it should be. When I need to be able to get something done in a emergency situation, I can now also shut off my emotions completely and focus on the task at hand and save any emotional processing I will need to do for a later time when it is no longer an emergency. When I was younger I would just absorb and feel the same pain that everyone around me felt and it would largely hamstring me from being of any use to the emergency situation at all. I think many if not most empaths are deeply traumatized people that instead of working to heal that brokenness and trauma have instead chosen to convince themselves that they are actually a special group of superior people that others should aspire to be more like and if that happens the world will be a better place. It wouldn't. There is almost always a ego aspect to empaths, where they want others to look up to them. I consider empaths to be the emotional equivalent of the arrogant intellectual, that thinks he is better and wiser than everyone else because he has three degrees even though he can't even change a flat tire, get along with normal people, or do much of anything himself in the real world. This is very helpful and insightful. I agree with you. I do not. That last paragraph is a total generalization, and obviously this poster has had an issue with someone, and decided to 'damn the lot.' You are not that perceptive if you cling to generalities. (Not @ you, OP.) You just made a couple blanket statements yourself. Read your sentences again. A perceptive individual will notice quickly that your statements are more of a logic box than anything I said. Pot meet kettle. Based on your own statements you have just labeled yourself as not being very perceptive. Do you even realize that? To put it another way, you are basically ignoring everything I said because it doesn't meet your predetermined qualifications for validity. You are mentally "damning the lot" of people that don't think the same way you do. Your post pretty much proved the exact point I was making in my last paragraph and you can't even see it. That pretty much ensures nothing will ever change for you unless you first change how you think. I said that I believe, "many if not most empaths are deeply traumatized people..." I never said "all", and I never said that my belief structure was based on a sample level of one. I only told you about one or two particular people/examples to make points. Man, some people on this forum are so dense. You can see the sliver in the eye of everyone but yourself. I am not being stern here to belittle you or knock you down, I am doing it to try and shock you out of your thought box so you can learn something new and grow. Some people need an outside force to irritate them before they can find the next level of growth they are looking for within themselves. My attempt might work, and it might not, but I felt like giving it a try so I did. You have to be willing to accept that there is truth, learning, and understanding outside of what you already think you know, before anything in your life can ever change. |
Zoink
User ID: 12343871 United States 12/09/2019 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being an empath is a curse, and a blessing. Its all in what you make of it. They can make the cruelest sadists, or the most compassionate of healers. Quoting: Zoink It helps to know when to let go of someone, either for your own well being, or theirs. I miss being around people, but I can only take so much before having to retreat into the hermit's shell. Yes, I have suffered greatly at the hands of trusted friends, family, and coworkers. But what doesn't kill me, makes me weirder. Ash Nazg Durbatulûk, Ash Nazg Gimbatul, Ash Nazg Thrakatulûk, Agh Burzum-ishi Krimpatul |
LilMiss
User ID: 73660982 United States 12/09/2019 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to be an empath myself, but it was a burden and it was known to be a dysfunction rather than a blessing within myself. It felt like I didn't exist and like I had little to no control over my own life, feelings, thoughts, etc. It all stemmed from my abusive childhood. For instance, I used to have to know within a couple seconds of entering a room if it was safe to stay there or not by noticing exactly how my father was breathing while he was sitting in his chair and how the room felt emotionally. Certain breathing patterns meant it was safe and I could stay while others meant it was safe to stay as long as I acted a certain way and others meant that he was looking for someone to dump all his issues onto so it was best to leave immediately. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78204249 Being highly skilled at reading a room or reading the emotions of a person was a learned skill born out of necessity for me. My mother used to take on everyone's pain as her own and then act as if she was basically a victim just like the other person the event was actually happening to. She tried to train me to be like her and she has always acted as if not being tied to the whims of my emotions was evidence that I was heartless and thus she was godly and pure because she didn't do that. I have slowly let most of my empathic abilities go naturally as I have healed from the traumas of my chidhood. I now find comfort in my own mind, thoughts, faith, etc. I still feel empathy for myself and others, but only in situations where I feel like God wants me to do something. In other situations, I feel very little connection, and that enables me to live a much more balanced and healthy feeling life. Everyone else's problems are not my problems and that's the way it should be. When I need to be able to get something done in a emergency situation, I can now also shut off my emotions completely and focus on the task at hand and save any emotional processing I will need to do for a later time when it is no longer an emergency. When I was younger I would just absorb and feel the same pain that everyone around me felt and it would largely hamstring me from being of any use to the emergency situation at all. I think many if not most empaths are deeply traumatized people that instead of working to heal that brokenness and trauma have instead chosen to convince themselves that they are actually a special group of superior people that others should aspire to be more like and if that happens the world will be a better place. It wouldn't. There is almost always a ego aspect to empaths, where they want others to look up to them. I consider empaths to be the emotional equivalent of the arrogant intellectual, that thinks he is better and wiser than everyone else because he has three degrees even though he can't even change a flat tire, get along with normal people, or do much of anything himself in the real world. This is very helpful and insightful. I agree with you. I do not. That last paragraph is a total generalization, and obviously this poster has had an issue with someone, and decided to 'damn the lot.' You are not that perceptive if you cling to generalities. (Not @ you, OP.) You just made a couple blanket statements yourself. Read your sentences again. A perceptive individual will notice quickly that your statements are more of a logic box than anything I said. Pot meet kettle. Based on your own statements you have just labeled yourself as not being very perceptive. Do you even realize that? To put it another way, you are basically ignoring everything I said because it doesn't meet your predetermined qualifications for validity. You are mentally "damning the lot" of people that don't think the same way you do. Your post pretty much proved the exact point I was making in my last paragraph and you can't even see it. That pretty much ensures nothing will ever change for you unless you first change how you think. I said that I believe, "many if not most empaths are deeply traumatized people..." I never said "all", and I never said that my belief structure was based on a sample level of one. I only told you about one or two particular people/examples to make points. Man, some people on this forum are so dense. You can see the sliver in the eye of everyone but yourself. I am not being stern here to belittle you or knock you down, I am doing it to try and shock you out of your thought box so you can learn something new and grow. Some people need an outside force to irritate them before they can find the next level of growth they are looking for within themselves. My attempt might work, and it might not, but I felt like giving it a try so I did. You have to be willing to accept that there is truth, learning, and understanding outside of what you already think you know, before anything in your life can ever change. I am not a he. I do not have 3 degrees. I am highly empathetic. Therefore, you are incorrect I do not need you to do anything for me, but thanks. Last Edited by LilMiss on 12/09/2019 01:51 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78204249 United States 12/09/2019 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I do not. That last paragraph is a total generalization, and obviously this poster has had an issue with someone, and decided to 'damn the lot.' You are not that perceptive if you cling to generalities. (Not @ you, OP.) You just made a couple blanket statements yourself. Read your sentences again. A perceptive individual will notice quickly that your statements are more of a logic box than anything I said. Pot meet kettle. Based on your own statements you have just labeled yourself as not being very perceptive. Do you even realize that? To put it another way, you are basically ignoring everything I said because it doesn't meet your predetermined qualifications for validity. You are mentally "damning the lot" of people that don't think the same way you do. Your post pretty much proved the exact point I was making in my last paragraph and you can't even see it. That pretty much ensures nothing will ever change for you unless you first change how you think. I said that I believe, "many if not most empaths are deeply traumatized people..." I never said "all", and I never said that my belief structure was based on a sample level of one. I only told you about one or two particular people/examples to make points. Man, some people on this forum are so dense. You can see the sliver in the eye of everyone but yourself. I am not being stern here to belittle you or knock you down, I am doing it to try and shock you out of your thought box so you can learn something new and grow. Some people need an outside force to irritate them before they can find the next level of growth they are looking for within themselves. My attempt might work, and it might not, but I felt like giving it a try so I did. You have to be willing to accept that there is truth, learning, and understanding outside of what you already think you know, before anything in your life can ever change. I am not a he. I do not have 3 degrees. I am highly empathetic. Therefore, you are incorrect I do not need you to do anything for me, but thanks. That's exactly the sort of response I would expect from a person that makes decisions almost solely based on emotion instead of a balance of logic, knowledge, emotion, and wisdom. You just keep proving the point I was originally making but you are too stuck in your own box to see it. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad in many ways. I also never said you were a "he", and my comment on degrees had nothing to do with you or me. I thought you would be able to realize that. It seems like you also might really need to work on your reading comprehension. |
sonik User ID: 74533487 United States 12/09/2019 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By the way, "I am that I am" is from among the Christian dogmas. It doesn't matter who used it first. The Christians own it now. Quoting: sonik 74533487 Ain't it funny? Why should "Christians" "own" that now? I try to avoid thinking in boxes and Dogma's. I don't see it as a Dogma to begin with. I live my own perceptions. Everybody says something interesting, sometimes. You just did as well. I always do because that is my gift. Good work applying the teaching immediately, but notice the subtlety later on in a subsequent post you take the stance of fueling perception with perception, which is an abstraction of Christianity. The not-so-secret secret is that with Christ Jesus who says "If you are not with me you are against me", if you are importing modules from Christianity and yet do not equip the whole of the armor, it won't work how you think. Doing so relates your soul to Christian metaphysics where, if you haven't accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior, you are of the anti-christ which is another way of saying you are a vessel of wrath. With the vessels of wrath concept, you fuel their metaphysics with your soul which burns in hell forever. These words should be enough to paint for you a picture that you can use as you see fit. I'm closing the loop unless you feel or think you must get the final word here. Thrive, love |