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Fox News Live: House Judiciary holds Trump impeachment hearing Day 2

 
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All the people who say Trump is guilty testified under oath.

All the people who say Trump is innocent have refused to testify.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


They testified indeed and they offered no proof of any wrong doing by President Trump! Had you paid closer attention to the witnesses and their cross examination you could have avoided looking so silly as to believe otherwise.
 Quoting: Grateful1


Answer the question tard.

Why haven't the FACT WITNESSES testified?

The GOP has cried alligator tears over a lack of facts and "hearsay" - can't have it both ways.

OR CAN YOU??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


SO according to you, the dems controlling the proceedings, and not ALLOWING reps to call witnesses, equals GOP and Trump refusing. AND you are trying to IGNORE the ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT of the call in question, and the statement of the other person on the call, pres of Ukraine. and all of this over a crime BIDEN ADMITTED TO ON CAMERA...you are fucking INSANE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78233703


Why then does the GOP want fact witnesses like Pompeo, Mulvaney and Perry to testify? And Trump wants the AG to accept Giuliani's recent Ukraine evidence? - but the GOP isn't talking about having Rudy testify.

Look, no one needs to be a prosecutor to see that this 'case' is moving straight ahead and the GOP have shifted their defense daily - they now realize that the only way to get ANY exculpatory evidence into the public record will come from the FACT WITNESSES - that they's blocked lol.

They can't continue to cry foul over a lack of facts and hold those witnesses up.

Let's move forward shall we?
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Congress is Breaking Down

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THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID!!!

HOAX!!!

SCAM!!!!

PERFECT CALL!!!!
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So will Trump call Rudy Giuliani and John Bolton at his senate trial? What's trump afraid of?
 Quoting: NDFarm


All the people who say Trump is guilty testified under oath.

All the people who say Trump is innocent have refused to testify.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


nobody could name the crime he committed only that they presumed he did

due process says presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77726703


That's great. Why is the WH and Trump blocking the fact witnesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995
Well, lets see. Trump and his admin/family/staff have been subjected to spying, unlawful investigations based on lies, and now an impeachment inquiry by politically motivated democrats.

Maybe he doesn't trust that he or his people will be treated fairly by the house dems that are running this sham inquiry?

Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, Trump thinks it possible that house dems will badger him and his staff, twist their words, and possibly even lie to them to "catch" them in some phony, manufactured gotcha moment.

Or maybe because it would set a bad precedent for future presidents?

Maybe the idea of an impeachment inquiry in the House is to provide any and all evidence of wrongdoing for the House members to then hold a floor vote as to whether there is enough evidence to warrant a trial in the Senate?

This is not a trial, that only happens after they vote to impeach.
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LMAO! Thank you CK Dex!
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All the people who say Trump is guilty testified under oath.

All the people who say Trump is innocent have refused to testify.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


nobody could name the crime he committed only that they presumed he did

due process says presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77726703


That's great. Why is the WH and Trump blocking the fact witnesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


That's easy. Democrats used letters to encourage people to testify.

NO SUBPOENAS WERE EVER ISSUED BY ANY COURT!!!

The Democrats asked Trump's people to just show up however without the legal weight of a subpoena they never had to show up at all.

Democrats used these letters to pretend that they had the weight of a court-issued subpoena without the legal requirements protections of the rules of evidence.

This was done to allow witnesses that the Democrats called to speculate and guess as to what they testified about, something that never would have been allowed in any court of law.
 Quoting: Sonny Tuckson


Some were subpoenaed
, other weren't. Don't know why his exculpatory factt witnesses would NOT show regardless of invitation.

So those closest to Trump during these events will never be heard from? Is that your position? And will that clear everything up?
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They testified indeed and they offered no proof of any wrong doing by President Trump! Had you paid closer attention to the witnesses and their cross examination you could have avoided looking so silly as to believe otherwise.
 Quoting: Grateful1


Answer the question tard.

Why haven't the FACT WITNESSES testified?

The GOP has cried alligator tears over a lack of facts and "hearsay" - can't have it both ways.

OR CAN YOU??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


SO according to you, the dems controlling the proceedings, and not ALLOWING reps to call witnesses, equals GOP and Trump refusing. AND you are trying to IGNORE the ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT of the call in question, and the statement of the other person on the call, pres of Ukraine. and all of this over a crime BIDEN ADMITTED TO ON CAMERA...you are fucking INSANE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78233703


Why then does the GOP want fact witnesses like Pompeo, Mulvaney and Perry to testify? And Trump wants the AG to accept Giuliani's recent Ukraine evidence? - but the GOP isn't talking about having Rudy testify.

Look, no one needs to be a prosecutor to see that this 'case' is moving straight ahead and the GOP have shifted their defense daily - they now realize that the only way to get ANY exculpatory evidence into the public record will come from the FACT WITNESSES - that they's blocked lol.

They can't continue to cry foul over a lack of facts and hold those witnesses up.

Let's move forward shall we?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


you have ignored every fact presented to you, and move past like it didnt happen. I have no hope for you. I stated facts, you stated presumptions. We all see through this bullshit technique you leftist use, its old , its tiresome, its happening. You will have to cope with the results. You will have to eat crow, but im sure you will tell us it taste like honey.
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nobody could name the crime he committed only that they presumed he did

due process says presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77726703


That's great. Why is the WH and Trump blocking the fact witnesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


That's easy. Democrats used letters to encourage people to testify.

NO SUBPOENAS WERE EVER ISSUED BY ANY COURT!!!

The Democrats asked Trump's people to just show up however without the legal weight of a subpoena they never had to show up at all.

Democrats used these letters to pretend that they had the weight of a court-issued subpoena without the legal requirements protections of the rules of evidence.

This was done to allow witnesses that the Democrats called to speculate and guess as to what they testified about, something that never would have been allowed in any court of law.
 Quoting: Sonny Tuckson


Some were subpoenaed
, other weren't. Don't know why his exculpatory factt witnesses would NOT show regardless of invitation.

So those closest to Trump during these events will never be heard from? Is that your position? And will that clear everything up?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


Sing the same song to us when this goes to a senate hearing. IF it goes forward.
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They are rewriting the rules very concerning for the future of our country
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So will Trump call Rudy Giuliani and John Bolton at his senate trial? What's trump afraid of?
 Quoting: NDFarm


All the people who say Trump is guilty testified under oath.

All the people who say Trump is innocent have refused to testify.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


nobody could name the crime he committed only that they presumed he did

due process says presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77726703


That's great. Why is the WH and Trump blocking the fact witnesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995

something about giving enough rope.
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So will Trump call Rudy Giuliani and John Bolton at his senate trial? What's trump afraid of?
 Quoting: NDFarm


All the people who say Trump is guilty testified under oath.

All the people who say Trump is innocent have refused to testify.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


They testified indeed and they offered no proof of any wrong doing by President Trump! Had you paid closer attention to the witnesses and their cross examination you could have avoided looking so silly as to believe otherwise.
 Quoting: Grateful1


Answer the question tard.

Why haven't the FACT WITNESSES testified?

The GOP has cried alligator tears over a lack of facts and "hearsay" - can't have it both ways.

OR CAN YOU??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995

You don’t get to pick and choose which fact witnesses testify or not unfortunately for you. Many fact witnesses from both sides did not in fact appear. You might not like it as it does not further your preconceived narrative but those are the facts!
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They are rewriting the rules very concerning for the future of our country
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Attempted soft coup. Overthrow. When will they be charged with treason?
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Answer the question tard.

Why haven't the FACT WITNESSES testified?

The GOP has cried alligator tears over a lack of facts and "hearsay" - can't have it both ways.

OR CAN YOU??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


SO according to you, the dems controlling the proceedings, and not ALLOWING reps to call witnesses, equals GOP and Trump refusing. AND you are trying to IGNORE the ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT of the call in question, and the statement of the other person on the call, pres of Ukraine. and all of this over a crime BIDEN ADMITTED TO ON CAMERA...you are fucking INSANE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78233703


Why then does the GOP want fact witnesses like Pompeo, Mulvaney and Perry to testify? And Trump wants the AG to accept Giuliani's recent Ukraine evidence? - but the GOP isn't talking about having Rudy testify.

Look, no one needs to be a prosecutor to see that this 'case' is moving straight ahead and the GOP have shifted their defense daily - they now realize that the only way to get ANY exculpatory evidence into the public record will come from the FACT WITNESSES - that they's blocked lol.

They can't continue to cry foul over a lack of facts and hold those witnesses up.

Let's move forward shall we?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


you have ignored every fact presented to you, and move past like it didnt happen. I have no hope for you. I stated facts, you stated presumptions. We all see through this bullshit technique you leftist use, its old , its tiresome, its happening. You will have to cope with the results. You will have to eat crow, but im sure you will tell us it taste like honey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78233703


The President of Ukraine has NOT testified under oath nor has Giuliani....NEXT
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All the people who say Trump is guilty testified under oath.

All the people who say Trump is innocent have refused to testify.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


They testified indeed and they offered no proof of any wrong doing by President Trump! Had you paid closer attention to the witnesses and their cross examination you could have avoided looking so silly as to believe otherwise.
 Quoting: Grateful1


Answer the question tard.

Why haven't the FACT WITNESSES testified?

The GOP has cried alligator tears over a lack of facts and "hearsay" - can't have it both ways.

OR CAN YOU??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995

You don’t get to pick and choose which fact witnesses testify or not unfortunately for you. Many fact witnesses from both sides did not in fact appear. You might not like it as it does not further your preconceived narrative but those are the facts!
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I never said I get to pick witnesses... conflate much??
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SO according to you, the dems controlling the proceedings, and not ALLOWING reps to call witnesses, equals GOP and Trump refusing. AND you are trying to IGNORE the ACTUAL TRANSCRIPT of the call in question, and the statement of the other person on the call, pres of Ukraine. and all of this over a crime BIDEN ADMITTED TO ON CAMERA...you are fucking INSANE
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78233703


Why then does the GOP want fact witnesses like Pompeo, Mulvaney and Perry to testify? And Trump wants the AG to accept Giuliani's recent Ukraine evidence? - but the GOP isn't talking about having Rudy testify.

Look, no one needs to be a prosecutor to see that this 'case' is moving straight ahead and the GOP have shifted their defense daily - they now realize that the only way to get ANY exculpatory evidence into the public record will come from the FACT WITNESSES - that they's blocked lol.

They can't continue to cry foul over a lack of facts and hold those witnesses up.

Let's move forward shall we?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


you have ignored every fact presented to you, and move past like it didnt happen. I have no hope for you. I stated facts, you stated presumptions. We all see through this bullshit technique you leftist use, its old , its tiresome, its happening. You will have to cope with the results. You will have to eat crow, but im sure you will tell us it taste like honey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78233703


The President of Ukraine has NOT testified under oath nor has Giuliani....NEXT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


Nor did the whistle blower, nor did Schiff, nor did Joe or Hunter Biden. Next!
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They testified indeed and they offered no proof of any wrong doing by President Trump! Had you paid closer attention to the witnesses and their cross examination you could have avoided looking so silly as to believe otherwise.
 Quoting: Grateful1


Answer the question tard.

Why haven't the FACT WITNESSES testified?

The GOP has cried alligator tears over a lack of facts and "hearsay" - can't have it both ways.

OR CAN YOU??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995

You don’t get to pick and choose which fact witnesses testify or not unfortunately for you. Many fact witnesses from both sides did not in fact appear. You might not like it as it does not further your preconceived narrative but those are the facts!
 Quoting: Grateful1


I never said I get to pick witnesses... conflate much??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


Your question was answered and the fact that you can’t accept that speaks volumes as to your bad intent.
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Dems assume Trump wanted Biden investigated for the campaign and that's just not the case. Biden wasn't even running at the time.

Nor was Trump worried about beating him.

Sure seems like Biden set this whole thing up.
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They testified indeed and they offered no proof of any wrong doing by President Trump! Had you paid closer attention to the witnesses and their cross examination you could have avoided looking so silly as to believe otherwise.
 Quoting: Grateful1


Answer the question tard.

Why haven't the FACT WITNESSES testified?

The GOP has cried alligator tears over a lack of facts and "hearsay" - can't have it both ways.

OR CAN YOU??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995

You don’t get to pick and choose which fact witnesses testify or not unfortunately for you. Many fact witnesses from both sides did not in fact appear. You might not like it as it does not further your preconceived narrative but those are the facts!
 Quoting: Grateful1


I never said I get to pick witnesses... conflate much??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


There are people who testified that we still have not seen the transcripts... they're not allowed because, according to people who have seen them, clear Trump of wrongdoing.
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The Dems have nothing worthy of impeachment. The most they could hope for is a censure.

The Dems want Trump and his people to testify in the hope that they might may contradict something that was said before so they can accuse them of lying to Congress.
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Watching Fox News and they keep bring in the lying liberal POS (piece of shit) Cris Wallace - if I want to know what cnn or msnbc is saying I would watch them - I can't watch wallace - he may think that his bias and liberal view are hidden but it's painfully obvious he is a Never-Trumper
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They are rewriting the rules very concerning for the future of our country
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Attempted soft coup. Overthrow. When will they be charged with treason?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78181118


Exactly.

This is ridiculous and painful to watch.
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Why then does the GOP want fact witnesses like Pompeo, Mulvaney and Perry to testify? And Trump wants the AG to accept Giuliani's recent Ukraine evidence? - but the GOP isn't talking about having Rudy testify.

Look, no one needs to be a prosecutor to see that this 'case' is moving straight ahead and the GOP have shifted their defense daily - they now realize that the only way to get ANY exculpatory evidence into the public record will come from the FACT WITNESSES - that they's blocked lol.

They can't continue to cry foul over a lack of facts and hold those witnesses up.

Let's move forward shall we?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


you have ignored every fact presented to you, and move past like it didnt happen. I have no hope for you. I stated facts, you stated presumptions. We all see through this bullshit technique you leftist use, its old , its tiresome, its happening. You will have to cope with the results. You will have to eat crow, but im sure you will tell us it taste like honey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78233703


The President of Ukraine has NOT testified under oath nor has Giuliani....NEXT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


Nor did the whistle blower, nor did Schiff, nor did Joe or Hunter Biden. Next!
 Quoting: Grateful1


You may have noticed that this is an Impeachment inquiry of the US President.

Whisleblower would need special considerations to testify - however his or her complaint was processed and the IG said it was serious and urgent.

As I understand it Durham is investigating Ukraine/Russia/Bidens.
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Answer the question tard.

Why haven't the FACT WITNESSES testified?

The GOP has cried alligator tears over a lack of facts and "hearsay" - can't have it both ways.

OR CAN YOU??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995

You don’t get to pick and choose which fact witnesses testify or not unfortunately for you. Many fact witnesses from both sides did not in fact appear. You might not like it as it does not further your preconceived narrative but those are the facts!
 Quoting: Grateful1


I never said I get to pick witnesses... conflate much??
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Your question was answered and the fact that you can’t accept that speaks volumes as to your bad intent.
 Quoting: Grateful1


bsflag
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You don’t get to pick and choose which fact witnesses testify or not unfortunately for you. Many fact witnesses from both sides did not in fact appear. You might not like it as it does not further your preconceived narrative but those are the facts!
 Quoting: Grateful1


I never said I get to pick witnesses... conflate much??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


Your question was answered and the fact that you can’t accept that speaks volumes as to your bad intent.
 Quoting: Grateful1


bsflag
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fight
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Castor is getting Shredded
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Castor is getting Shredded
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Bullsh*t Bot
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Mr “Goldman” wed one Anne Katherine Montminy at Martha’s Vineyard. The ceremony was presided over by a rabbi at his mother Susan’s summer home in Chilmark, Massachusetts.
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nobody could name the crime he committed only that they presumed he did

due process says presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77726703


That's great. Why is the WH and Trump blocking the fact witnesses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


That's easy. Democrats used letters to encourage people to testify.

NO SUBPOENAS WERE EVER ISSUED BY ANY COURT!!!

The Democrats asked Trump's people to just show up however without the legal weight of a subpoena they never had to show up at all.

Democrats used these letters to pretend that they had the weight of a court-issued subpoena without the legal requirements protections of the rules of evidence.

This was done to allow witnesses that the Democrats called to speculate and guess as to what they testified about, something that never would have been allowed in any court of law.
 Quoting: Sonny Tuckson


Some were subpoenaed
, other weren't. Don't know why his exculpatory factt witnesses would NOT show regardless of invitation.

So those closest to Trump during these events will never be heard from? Is that your position? And will that clear everything up?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995


What Schiff called subpoenas weren't real subpoenas because he wasn't willing to go before a court and state his reasons for any subpoena.

The reality is that Democrats do not want the rules of evidence to interfere with anything they are doing because it would force their witnesses to stick to the facts and ignores their opinions.
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Watching Fox News and they keep bring in the lying liberal POS (piece of shit) Cris Wallace - if I want to know what cnn or msnbc is saying I would watch them - I can't watch wallace - he may think that his bias and liberal view are hidden but it's painfully obvious he is a Never-Trumper
 Quoting: Flame Garcia


He outed himself during the 2016 debates by throwing softball questions and helping dems with tricky responses. He has a very punchable face.
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no one cares about any of this shit and this is the highlight of these unelected staffers' lives





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