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ImpeachMe2 Xeven
 User ID: 75948321  United States12/09/2019 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how counsel Goldman is shitting his pants under Collins questions. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
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| ImpeachMe2 Xeven
User ID: 75948321 United States12/09/2019 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gaetz/Collins 2024 I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
| krikin
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| NDFarm
User ID: 76923699 United States12/09/2019 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is more than obvious now to the public that Rudy Giuliani is the linchpin to the facts in this matter - why doesn't the GOP want him to testify? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 Simple question Simple question why don't the Democrats subpoena him to testify? Only they have the power to do that. Over 3 months ago.. [link to www.politico.com (secure)] Trump has blocked all key witnesses from testifying. Now why would he do that? If they would of testified trump would be gone already, that's why. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76871995 United States12/09/2019 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is more than obvious now to the public that Rudy Giuliani is the linchpin to the facts in this matter - why doesn't the GOP want him to testify? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 Simple question Oh he will in time... Yep, they’re letting the rats wear themselves out before Rudy takes the stand. It will be biblical when Rudy tells them that he had to get a release from his client, President Volensky before testifying. It’s the looking glass and the demoncrats haven’t figured it out. Nobody purposely allows as Trump says a 'witch hunt' to proceed... without putting up some exculpatory evidence lol - you know those WH fact witnesses like Mulvaney, Perry, Bolton and perhaps the other 10 that we've not heard from. Que the chess moves..  |
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| ImpeachMe2 Xeven
User ID: 75948321 United States12/09/2019 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is more than obvious now to the public that Rudy Giuliani is the linchpin to the facts in this matter - why doesn't the GOP want him to testify? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 Simple question Simple question why don't the Democrats subpoena him to testify? Only they have the power to do that. Over 3 months ago.. [link to www.politico.com (secure)] Trump has blocked all key witnesses from testifying. Now why would he do that? If they would of testified trump would be gone already, that's why. Because it is legal to do so and important to separation of powers. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 928 United States12/09/2019 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Couldn’t they get any better than Castor! Quoting: krikin That would have helped. They need a bull dog, and why this woman? Collins is way better!! Castor is a witness lol phoukin A The cross-examination (counsel) is just as bad...wtf are the Republicans thinking??? Collins needs to take back his time and start asking questions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States12/09/2019 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sonny Tuckson What Schiff called subpoenas weren't real subpoenas because he wasn't willing to go before a court and state his reasons for any subpoena. The reality is that Democrats do not want the rules of evidence to interfere with anything they are doing because it would force their witnesses to stick to the facts and ignores their opinions. You're overlooking the fact that some of the witnesses that the WH blocked were indeed subpoenaed. And it only goes to reason that the time component to get them into the House to testify via courts was weighed...yes? Actually they appeared entirely on their own, and the White House made no attempt to block their testimony. Schiff has the power to force anyone in the White House to appear with a court ordered subpoena, however he chose not to fight the White House in court, and instead has been claiming that they refused to testify by what he has called a subpoena but is actually only a letter to compel a witness to testify before the committee. Those letters have no legal weight. [link to www.usatoday.com (secure)] You have just proved my point. Here's why: 1) you used a multicolored fish wrap opinion piece instead of the actual law. Schiff "Subpoenas" do not allow white house Lawyers to be allowed with witnesses during their testimony. This is ILLEGAL and Immoral and the Department of Justice not a multicolored fish wrap decided as long as Schiff would not allow counsel to appear and advise any potential witness, Chairman Schiff's subpoenas did not comply with the rule of law. Schiff refuses to allow any White House Counsel and or Department of Justice counsel to attend any proceedings in the bunker or during hearings with the witnesses. Go ahead and claim that this is legal and state your reason. |
| ImpeachMe2 Xeven
User ID: 75948321 United States12/09/2019 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She sucks. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76790892 United States12/09/2019 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Couldn’t they get any better than Castor! Quoting: krikin That would have helped. They need a bull dog, and why this woman? Collins is way better!! Castor is a witness lol phoukin A The cross-examination (counsel) is just as bad...wtf are the Republicans thinking??? Collins needs to take back his time and start asking questions.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76871995 United States12/09/2019 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 You're overlooking the fact that some of the witnesses that the WH blocked were indeed subpoenaed. And it only goes to reason that the time component to get them into the House to testify via courts was weighed...yes? Actually they appeared entirely on their own, and the White House made no attempt to block their testimony. Schiff has the power to force anyone in the White House to appear with a court ordered subpoena, however he chose not to fight the White House in court, and instead has been claiming that they refused to testify by what he has called a subpoena but is actually only a letter to compel a witness to testify before the committee. Those letters have no legal weight. [link to www.usatoday.com (secure)] You have just proved my point. Here's why: 1) you used a multicolored fish wrap opinion piece instead of the actual law. Schiff "Subpoenas" do not allow white house Lawyers to be allowed with witnesses during their testimony. This is ILLEGAL and Immoral and the Department of Justice not a multicolored fish wrap decided as long as Schiff would not allow counsel to appear and advise any potential witness, Chairman Schiff's subpoenas did not comply with the rule of law. Schiff refuses to allow any White House Counsel and or Department of Justice counsel to attend any proceedings in the bunker or during hearings with the witnesses. Go ahead and claim that this is legal and state your reason. I don't need to state anything .. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States12/09/2019 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sonny Tuckson Actually they appeared entirely on their own, and the White House made no attempt to block their testimony. Schiff has the power to force anyone in the White House to appear with a court ordered subpoena, however he chose not to fight the White House in court, and instead has been claiming that they refused to testify by what he has called a subpoena but is actually only a letter to compel a witness to testify before the committee. Those letters have no legal weight. [link to www.usatoday.com (secure)] You have just proved my point. Here's why: 1) you used a multicolored fish wrap opinion piece instead of the actual law. Schiff "Subpoenas" do not allow white house Lawyers to be allowed with witnesses during their testimony. This is ILLEGAL and Immoral and the Department of Justice not a multicolored fish wrap decided as long as Schiff would not allow counsel to appear and advise any potential witness, Chairman Schiff's subpoenas did not comply with the rule of law. Schiff refuses to allow any White House Counsel and or Department of Justice counsel to attend any proceedings in the bunker or during hearings with the witnesses. Go ahead and claim that this is legal and state your reason. I don't need to state anything .. then you have nothing left to say. you're done here. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76871995 United States12/09/2019 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Couldn’t they get any better than Castor! Quoting: krikin That would have helped. They need a bull dog, and why this woman? Collins is way better!! Castor is a witness lol phoukin A The cross-examination (counsel) is just as bad...wtf are the Republicans thinking??? Collins needs to take back his time and start asking questions. Almost as embarrassing as taking time back from the GOP's expert 'abuse counselor' in the Ford testimony. Jesus.. these two are putting me to sleep. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53199845 United States12/09/2019 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Couldn’t they get any better than Castor! Quoting: krikin That would have helped. They need a bull dog, and why this woman? Collins is way better!! No sense using your best players when you might need them later (i.e. Senate trial). Better to not let them see how your best players operate so they are more effective later. Dem's chosen players are coming across as arrogant, smug, nasty, or condescending. Repub's using the "Columbo" routine in using much more likeable people you almost feel bad for because they stammer and stumble so much. It is all a big waste of time anyway. Dems are going to vote to impeach no matter WHAT the evidence shows. It has been a foregone conclusion for 3 years. Then it goes to the Senate, where it will die. There's no up-side for the Dems except possibly being able to claim they did what they promised to do but then blame it on the Republican held Senate. If Reppubs are smart they'll drag out the Senate portion to f-up all the Dem candidates who need to be on the campaign trail. This is going to bite Nancy squarely in the ass. Her legacy will be failing to impeach the bad orange man. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76871995 United States12/09/2019 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have just proved my point. Here's why: 1) you used a multicolored fish wrap opinion piece instead of the actual law. Schiff "Subpoenas" do not allow white house Lawyers to be allowed with witnesses during their testimony. This is ILLEGAL and Immoral and the Department of Justice not a multicolored fish wrap decided as long as Schiff would not allow counsel to appear and advise any potential witness, Chairman Schiff's subpoenas did not comply with the rule of law. Schiff refuses to allow any White House Counsel and or Department of Justice counsel to attend any proceedings in the bunker or during hearings with the witnesses. Go ahead and claim that this is legal and state your reason. I don't need to state anything .. then you have nothing left to say. you're done here. another internet nazi |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76790892 United States12/09/2019 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Sonny Tuckson Actually they appeared entirely on their own, and the White House made no attempt to block their testimony. Schiff has the power to force anyone in the White House to appear with a court ordered subpoena, however he chose not to fight the White House in court, and instead has been claiming that they refused to testify by what he has called a subpoena but is actually only a letter to compel a witness to testify before the committee. Those letters have no legal weight. [link to www.usatoday.com (secure)] You have just proved my point. Here's why: 1) you used a multicolored fish wrap opinion piece instead of the actual law. Schiff "Subpoenas" do not allow white house Lawyers to be allowed with witnesses during their testimony. This is ILLEGAL and Immoral and the Department of Justice not a multicolored fish wrap decided as long as Schiff would not allow counsel to appear and advise any potential witness, Chairman Schiff's subpoenas did not comply with the rule of law. Schiff refuses to allow any White House Counsel and or Department of Justice counsel to attend any proceedings in the bunker or during hearings with the witnesses. Go ahead and claim that this is legal and state your reason. I don't need to state anything .. I think you meant to state “checkmate” or “touché”... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76871995 United States12/09/2019 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Couldn’t they get any better than Castor! Quoting: krikin That would have helped. They need a bull dog, and why this woman? Collins is way better!! No sense using your best players when you might need them later (i.e. Senate trial). Better to not let them see how your best players operate so they are more effective later. Dem's chosen players are coming across as arrogant, smug, nasty, or condescending. Repub's using the "Columbo" routine in using much more likeable people you almost feel bad for because they stammer and stumble so much. It is all a big waste of time anyway. Dems are going to vote to impeach no matter WHAT the evidence shows. It has been a foregone conclusion for 3 years. Then it goes to the Senate, where it will die. There's no up-side for the Dems except possibly being able to claim they did what they promised to do but then blame it on the Republican held Senate. If Reppubs are smart they'll drag out the Senate portion to f-up all the Dem candidates who need to be on the campaign trail. This is going to bite Nancy squarely in the ass. Her legacy will be failing to impeach the bad orange man. GOP logic is a killer lol |
| docsquat
User ID: 78213951 United States12/09/2019 02:13 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is more than obvious now to the public that Rudy Giuliani is the linchpin to the facts in this matter - why doesn't the GOP want him to testify? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76871995 Simple question Oh he will in time... Yep, they’re letting the rats wear themselves out before Rudy takes the stand. It will be biblical when Rudy tells them that he had to get a release from his client, President Volensky before testifying. It’s the looking glass and the demoncrats haven’t figured it out. Nobody purposely allows as Trump says a 'witch hunt' to proceed... without putting up some exculpatory evidence lol - you know those WH fact witnesses like Mulvaney, Perry, Bolton and perhaps the other 10 that we've not heard from. Que the chess moves.. Ever played a sport? All teams look about the same in the pregame routine. The Demoncrats right now are showing their warm-ups, running plays against air. The exculpatory evidence will be presented when the game actually starts. Purity of Essence |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76871995 United States12/09/2019 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, they’re letting the rats wear themselves out before Rudy takes the stand. It will be biblical when Rudy tells them that he had to get a release from his client, President Volensky before testifying. It’s the looking glass and the demoncrats haven’t figured it out. Nobody purposely allows as Trump says a 'witch hunt' to proceed... without putting up some exculpatory evidence lol - you know those WH fact witnesses like Mulvaney, Perry, Bolton and perhaps the other 10 that we've not heard from. Que the chess moves.. Ever played a sport? All teams look about the same in the pregame routine. The Demoncrats right now are showing their warm-ups, running plays against air. The exculpatory evidence will be presented when the game actually starts. Respectfully disagree. If I was being publicly impeached and I had EXCULPATORY evidence to end the inquiry...I'd be damn sure to put it out ASAP |
Trained Noticer
Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States12/09/2019 02:16 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMFG. Castor needs to be reined in here. He's just droning on and on. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47694511 WTF are these two babbling about? Get on subject. They derailed their own thread.  Last Edited by Trained Noticer on 12/09/2019 02:17 PM For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76790892 United States12/09/2019 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Couldn’t they get any better than Castor! Quoting: krikin That would have helped. They need a bull dog, and why this woman? Collins is way better!! No sense using your best players when you might need them later (i.e. Senate trial). Better to not let them see how your best players operate so they are more effective later. Dem's chosen players are coming across as arrogant, smug, nasty, or condescending. Repub's using the "Columbo" routine in using much more likeable people you almost feel bad for because they stammer and stumble so much. It is all a big waste of time anyway. Dems are going to vote to impeach no matter WHAT the evidence shows. It has been a foregone conclusion for 3 years. Then it goes to the Senate, where it will die. There's no up-side for the Dems except possibly being able to claim they did what they promised to do but then blame it on the Republican held Senate. If Reppubs are smart they'll drag out the Senate portion to f-up all the Dem candidates who need to be on the campaign trail. This is going to bite Nancy squarely in the ass. Her legacy will be failing to impeach the bad orange man. GOP logic is a killer lol Can’t admit you’re wrong? Typical Marxist. |
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