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YouTube Will Now Ban for Criticizing Others - Even if Their Policies Were Not Violated!

 
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The YouTube Purge has begun. YouTube has retroactively changed its rules on what counts as "harassment" on its platform. What this means is that even if your videos and comments do NOT violate their policies, if you demonstrate a "pattern of behavior" of repeatedly attacking other content creators, individuals or public officials you will lose your ad partnered account or even your entire channel.

"Consequences for a pattern of harassing behavior

Something we heard from our creators is that harassment sometimes takes the shape of a pattern of repeated behavior across multiple videos or comments, even if any individual video doesn’t cross our policy line. To address this, we're tightening our policies for the YouTube Partner Program (YPP) to get even tougher on those who engage in harassing behavior and to ensure we reward only trusted creators. Channels that repeatedly brush up against our harassment policy will be suspended from YPP, eliminating their ability to make money on YouTube. We may also remove content from channels if they repeatedly harass someone. If this behavior continues, we’ll take more severe action including issuing strikes or terminating a channel altogether."
[link to youtube.googleblog.com (secure)]

So basically from now on I can't risk making videos on YouTube that debunk a particular person, and I may even lose my account for existing debunking videos that do not break any rules. From now on I will not mention anyone else's channel by name when I make a debunking video, I will only address the subject without mentioning who said it or who is promoting it. They even talk about banning harassment of "public figures" in the new rules. I can see this being the pretext to ban any political speech they do not like if it criticizes political figures they want to protect, while they will turn a blind eye to attacks on political figures they disagree with. I have little doubt the timing of this in the run up to the 2020 election is not just a coincidence.

I thought a lot of the warning calls about a YouTube Purge starting this month were just fear mongering, but it's already begun with old and popular videos of YouTubers criticizing other YouTubers being taken down. These videos were not just uploaded after this announcement was made, some specific examples are given in this video which relate to old videos that have been on YouTube for a while now.


Heads up, if you criticize anyone on a regular basis on YouTube your entire channel is now at risk of deletion.
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12/11/2019 05:37 PM
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If people stopped using Google & YT they would just go away. So why don't they?
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12/11/2019 05:38 PM
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The Padded youtube playpen

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12/11/2019 05:40 PM
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YouTube, Google, FaceBook, and Microsucks are HIDEOUS entities with a stranglehold on the necks of humanity...

FUCK BAYER/Monsanta as well...

Shalom!!!

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12/11/2019 05:41 PM
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"criticism" is the Hallmark of Journalism.

blatant 1st Amendment Infringement.
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12/11/2019 05:42 PM
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If people stopped using Google & YT they would just go away. So why don't they?
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Nah, too much information to just not use it.


But, I don't understand people that don't use adblock. I mean wtf, why wouldn't you use adblock?
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12/11/2019 05:42 PM
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Straight up commie shit. Good thing President Trump has a bitchute account now.
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12/11/2019 05:42 PM
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Don’t worry Trump is “looking into it” like all the other things he hasn’t done shit about
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12/11/2019 05:43 PM
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Is there a viable alternative to YouTube? I would love to support anything other than but haven't found an actual competitor as of yet.
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White people. That will totally be allowed!
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12/11/2019 05:56 PM

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Is there a viable alternative to YouTube? I would love to support anything other than but haven't found an actual competitor as of yet.
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Neither have I. None I have found offer the full feature set of YouTube. Some specialize in live streaming, some focus on uploads, some allow for crypto based monetization of a sort, but none do both live streaming and uploads as well as YouTube and none offer the analytics, in depth API, or other bells and whistles.
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12/11/2019 05:57 PM
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Critical assessment of politicians should be encouraged not restricted. Also, voicing learned opinon or making a point scientifically should be encouraged as well. Despots love nondistinctive rules as they can enforce them arbitrarily.

Check out dlive.tv for live streams and d.tube for created videos.
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fuck youtube.. ill just leave this cracked version here..

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12/11/2019 05:58 PM
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YouTube needs a Regime Change.
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The YouTube Purge has begun. YouTube has retroactively changed its rules on what counts as "harassment" on its platform. What this means is that even if your videos and comments do NOT violate their policies, if you demonstrate a "pattern of behavior" of repeatedly attacking other content creators, individuals or public officials you will lose your ad partnered account or even your entire channel.

"Consequences for a pattern of harassing behavior

Something we heard from our creators is that harassment sometimes takes the shape of a pattern of repeated behavior across multiple videos or comments, even if any individual video doesn’t cross our policy line. To address this, we're tightening our policies for the YouTube Partner Program (YPP) to get even tougher on those who engage in harassing behavior and to ensure we reward only trusted creators. Channels that repeatedly brush up against our harassment policy will be suspended from YPP, eliminating their ability to make money on YouTube. We may also remove content from channels if they repeatedly harass someone. If this behavior continues, we’ll take more severe action including issuing strikes or terminating a channel altogether."
[link to youtube.googleblog.com (secure)]

So basically from now on I can't risk making videos on YouTube that debunk a particular person, and I may even lose my account for existing debunking videos that do not break any rules. From now on I will not mention anyone else's channel by name when I make a debunking video, I will only address the subject without mentioning who said it or who is promoting it. They even talk about banning harassment of "public figures" in the new rules. I can see this being the pretext to ban any political speech they do not like if it criticizes political figures they want to protect, while they will turn a blind eye to attacks on political figures they disagree with. I have little doubt the timing of this in the run up to the 2020 election is not just a coincidence.

I thought a lot of the warning calls about a YouTube Purge starting this month were just fear mongering, but it's already begun with old and popular videos of YouTubers criticizing other YouTubers being taken down. These videos were not just uploaded after this announcement was made, some specific examples are given in this video which relate to old videos that have been on YouTube for a while now.


Heads up, if you criticize anyone on a regular basis on YouTube your entire channel is now at risk of deletion.
 Quoting: Astroshill


Wow.
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I Love God, Jesus, good people, and the U.S.A. the way the Framers signed the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
In my real world life I don't have a problem with standing up to those with solid evidence of corruption from either side, of any issue or place. Many are they in this world that need to be rooted out.
That makes me a target to be destroyed by very powerful people, I understand this.
At some point we have to stand up for what is right before God. I have done this, lived this way, and will continue to do so till they finish me off or I croak of natural causes.
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12/11/2019 05:59 PM
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You know this place has the same rule, right?
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12/11/2019 06:01 PM

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You know this place has the same rule, right?
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This place is a private club and we do not allow callout threads of other members. You are free to criticize public figures and non members in all the callout threads you want, and you can argue with each in threads all you want.
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12/11/2019 06:04 PM
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"Ban for criticizing others"....

Where did I see that before?????

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12/11/2019 06:05 PM

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"Ban for criticizing others"....

Where did I see that before?????

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I don't know, you tell me? Are you complaining about not being able to make callout threads here? That's not a new rule and it only applies to calling out other members here.
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Wow. All those anti-Trump channels coming down...
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12/11/2019 06:08 PM
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Is there a viable alternative to YouTube? I would love to support anything other than but haven't found an actual competitor as of yet.
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Neither have I. None I have found offer the full feature set of YouTube. Some specialize in live streaming, some focus on uploads, some allow for crypto based monetization of a sort, but none do both live streaming and uploads as well as YouTube and none offer the analytics, in depth API, or other bells and whistles.
 Quoting: Astroshill


Anyway GLP could create a replacement?
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12/11/2019 06:08 PM
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It looks like the end of Fox News and CSPAN on YouTube...
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YouTube needs a Regime Change.
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12/11/2019 06:09 PM
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"They even talk about banning harassment of "public figures" in the new rules."

That's pretty stunning because if we can't talk about political or social or entertainment figures on YouTube....what the hell is the point of HAVING it?

YouTube only exists because of our content. If we stop giving it content, what will it be?

That might be why they're pushing YouTube TV, which I can't imagine buying - because it will be the same kind of programming you'd get in Netflix, etc. instead of being YouTube it would be more aptly named.....PROGRAMMING.

So how long a future does YouTube have with these strident new rules? Are they looking forward to a future of cat and cooking videos?

We need more platforms and obviously places where adults can talk politics and other controversial subjects and the delicate left wing orchids can flutter elsewhere.
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12/11/2019 06:10 PM
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Is there a viable alternative to YouTube? I would love to support anything other than but haven't found an actual competitor as of yet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1160916


Neither have I. None I have found offer the full feature set of YouTube. Some specialize in live streaming, some focus on uploads, some allow for crypto based monetization of a sort, but none do both live streaming and uploads as well as YouTube and none offer the analytics, in depth API, or other bells and whistles.
 Quoting: Astroshill


Anyway GLP could create a replacement?
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That's a hell of a lot of bandwidth. And there are still individuals and topics that would not be allowed.
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12/11/2019 06:12 PM

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We need Freedom of Speech. Some of us are still Americans.
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12/11/2019 06:12 PM
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Unfortunately criticizing others is a fundamental part of debate. Take Flat Earth for example. How will that get discussed? Of course they will take off the FE videos as it's a "controversial" subject, but what about people who criticize FE - shouldn't they be removed too?

Eventually no one will be able to discuss anything of substance .....hence.....cat videos.
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12/11/2019 06:13 PM
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They will selectively target conservatives only. A few loudmouth leftists will be sacrificed & they'll be sure to advertise it far & wide so it looks like they're applying the new rules fairly, but they won't. Leftists will have free reign to attack conservatives (including "public figures").

All the executives from these tech tyrants need to be charged with conspiracy to commit sedition & treason, & the company needs to be put under the stewardship of someone who obeys our Constitution. This is total Communist subversion of our protected rights as a people & as a nation. Youtube & the social media sites are front companies for the intelligence agencies & are taking their political instructions direct from the Democrat party. They exploited our free speech to lure the majority of our population's content creators there, & are now acting to enslave our civilization.

I will never accept this argument that they are a "private company," & thus entitled to ignore our freedom of speech. Their monopoly power was legislated into existence & their funding given to them by politically motivated interests who planned from the beginning to do this.

America doesn't tolerate tyrants.
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Dox the executives and owners nationwide. Dox their families.
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12/11/2019 06:14 PM
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I love how YT includes the community that provides it with ALL OF ITS CONTENT in developing its rules and regs and TOS.
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12/11/2019 06:15 PM
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I'm curious though....if the social media platforms succeed in driving all conservatives off their platforms....how will they accomplish their mission goal of SURVEILLING AND MONITORING US? After all, that's why these programs were created.





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