Christ is the flaming sword that guards tree of life in the Garden of Eden.

When you open your soul and chakra, you let other spirits to live in you. Its dangerous and I know people who lost their souls and sanity by practicing magic and things you talk about.

I never once mentioned magic. Your body has energy centers called chakras that are connected to glands in your body. When they get blocked you get illnesses and problems. Whether you believe that or not, I don't care.

You don't believe in Jesus. You are here to spread your satanic practices, that is why I'm boring to you. Have a blessed day yourself my friend. You are not teaching anything. I asked you about the books you read, and you never answered me. Your "religion" is based on youtube and internet links.

When you open your chakras, you let other spirits to be in your body. I know that, because I practiced yoga and other satanic bullshit. I know God now, and nothing can change my mind anymore.

Yawn. I never said Yeshua wasn't a real person. You're starting to annoy me with your cult-like responses. You are a slave to a cult. Have fun with that. I don't have a religion. Religion is RA-legion. I follow real christianity which is gnosticism. Gnosis means spiritual knowledge.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Bye now. Have fun reincarnating until you learn what i tried to teach you.

Cult? Im not the one who is posting walls of text and youtube links, that have nothing to do with Bible. This thread is about Christ and Im not here to entertain you.

Ephesians 5:11 King James Version (KJV)
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

My teacher is Jesus, not you.

You're a good slave. Rome loves you. You're literally spreading and helping darkness by refusing to learn about the inner esoteric Christian teachings. You arent following Jesus at all. You don't meditate, you haven't had your spiritual birth. This is why the elite rule over people like you with complete ease. When you are shown the secrets they hid from you, you're so brainwashed you can't even read one sentence of it.

Hopefully you'll wake up one day. Until then you're spreading division and hatred.

That isn't even his name. Jesus isn't a book written by men.

You're so far gone, it's sad :(

Ciao

Well, that is just your own opinion my friend. I have nothing to do with rome and whore/catholic "church". I tried meditation before, I know where you are going with your spirit worshiping. I am awake, I was asleep most of my life my friend. Jesus is the only way, not your heresy teaching. I asked you about the book I can read about your agenda. Do you recommend anything? Or all you have is youtube and internet links?

Jesus isn't a book written by men, you are right. Jesus is the way and Bible is a Word of God. Don't be sad my friend, seek Jesus with all your heart and mind. Stop following your internet agenda.

What is wrong with these verses?

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 11

51 And this spake he not of himself:
but being high priest that year, he
prophesied that Jesus should die for that
nation;
52 And not for that nation only, but
that also he should gather together in one
the children of God that were scattered
abroad.

See what?

Jesus - the SON OF God - IS NOT the "Spirit of Truth".

So...the Holy Spirit DIED on the cross at Calvary?



Luke 4:1 And Jesus being

full of the Holy Ghost

returned from Jordan,

and was led by the Spirit

into the wilderness,

Jesus was "full of Himself"?
Jesus "led Himself into the wilderness"?

1. But the kingdom's throne is not inside of us. The Father's throne isn't inside of us.

2. Is a new heaven going to happen INSIDE US when Christ returns?

3. Is a new earth going to be formed INSIDE US?

4. How about the New Jerusalem?

5. So...when we die we go "into our own selves"?????

6. So Ezekial was taken "inside himself" instead of heaven ABOVE?

7. How about Isaiah?

8. How about John in Revelation?

9. How about Enoch?

10. Paul was taken "UP" to heaven?

11. Jesus ASCENDED "into people"???

12. So "the Father's house" and the "many mansions" that Jesus talks about - are ALL inside of US - where YOU say the kingdom of God exists?

13. ALL the souls under the alter in Revelation 6:9 are "inside us"???

People DID know.

They just turned away and DENIED the one true Living God.

The few who continued to believe were the direct descendants of Adam.

Noah was a descendant. So was Abraham.

SON OF God.

The Father is God. Jesus makes it CLEAR.

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not;

for I am not yet ascended to my Father:

but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;

and to my God, and your God.
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John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world,

that he gave his only begotten Son,

that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,

but have everlasting life.

Jesus doesn't say "I am who (that) I am".

His use of the phrase "I am" is uniqueness as the onlybegotten son of God

Here's MORE times Jesus used the phrase "I am".

Mark 14:61-62

61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


Luke 22:70 Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.

John 8:28-29

28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.


John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?


Bonus verses. Is Father God "meek and lowly in heart"?

Matthew 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

John 7:28-29

28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not.

29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.

UTTER NONSENSE


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What part of "the SON OF God" is it that you can't understand????

Folks like you ignore SO MUCH of what Jesus ALSO said.

These are the statements that Jesus made which show His subserviance and obedience to the Father.

...the Father is GREATER than I. John 14:28 & John 10:29

14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

...I do ONLY the Father's Will. John 6:37-39

37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.


...I PRAY to the Father. Matthew 26:36-42, Mark 14:32-39 & John 17

Matthew 26:36-42

36 Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.
37 And he took with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, and began to be sorrowful and very heavy.
38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
40 And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour?
41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
42 He went away again the second time, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if this cup may not pass away from me, except I drink it, thy will be done.

Mark 14:32-39

32 And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.
33 And he taketh with him Peter and James and John, and began to be sore amazed, and to be very heavy;
34 And saith unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful unto death: tarry ye here, and watch.
35 And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him.
36 And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
37 And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour?
38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly is ready, but the flesh is weak.
39 And again he went away, and prayed, and spake the same words.

John 17

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...the Father SENT me 47 verses in the 4 Gospels
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


...I learned / do as the Father has showed me. John 5:19 & John 8:28

5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.


...I give THANKS to the Father. Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21 & John 11:41-42

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.


Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11

41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.


...I don't KNOW when I will return...ONLY the Father KNOWS. Matthew 24:36

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.


...I tell you to ask the Father in MY name. John 14:13

13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.


...I go to sit at the Father's right hand. Matthew 26:64, Mark 14:61-62

64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 14

61 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


...I ASCEND to the Father, MY GOD and YOUR GOD. John 20:17

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.


...the Father has given me authority. Matthew 28:18

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.


...only the Father is good.. Luke 18:19

19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

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Who TOLD Jesus what to say?

...the Father SENT me Said by Jesus 47 times
...I say what the Father has said. John 12:49-50

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.


Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

God didn't write the KJV.

There is NO PERFECT translation of the manuscripts used to make the Bible.

Proof? Multiple translations of every verse.

1 John 5:7

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And this doesn't even cover Hebrew nor Aramaic translations.

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GNOSTIC GNONSENSE

God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass.

whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

You don't see it???????

TLS, that stuff is too stupid to even bother responding to.

Just forget it so it doesn't clog up the thread.

Jn 11:51
And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

Hebrews 3:1
And so, dear brothers and sisters who belong to God and are partners with those called to heaven, think carefully about this Jesus whom we declare to be God’s messenger and High Priest.

The Holy Spirit is the High Priest of our faith, God's Messenger; it's Jesus Christ not a third entity.

Doesn't matter what you say, TLS.

It's not an angel, not a non-Jesus spirit, not a force like star wars, not God Himself the Father, it's Jesus ya'll.

Ya'll, aside from beefree have another High Priest.