Christ is the flaming sword that guards tree of life in the Garden of Eden.

Oil of the Christ
This is the holy oil that is called “Christos” in Greek. This is the story of the Christ within, within all of us. The oil is secreted by the cerebrum from the holy claustrum or “santa” claustrum. The story of Santa Claus comes from this inner science because Santa is bringing spiritual presents down your chimney. From the cerebrum/claustrum, it is then differentiated in the pineal gland and pituitary gland. These glands are knows as Joseph and Mary.

The pineal gland releases a masculine electrical portion which is known as “honey,” and the pituitary gland releases the feminine magnetic portion, “milk.” The sacred heavens are also in the holy portions of our brains. This is the land flowing with milk and honey.

The pineal gland is connected to the Pingala nerve. The pituitary gland is connected to the Ida nerve. These are known as the kundalini and the kundabuffer. These nerves extend all the way down the spine and “tree of life.” These nerves go down to the sacral plexus and sacrum areas of our body/lower vertebrae. The sacral plexus holds very strong sexual energy that is a beautiful energy, that when harvested, can turn into an electrical energy that rises back up to the brain. The solar plexus and sacral plexus area is known as Bethlehem.

My Biblical studies were garbage before I started following your threads. I, for one, am thrilled with your Bible verse generating skills. So, thanks! One day (in the not too distant future) you'll see how much you've influenced my work.

You up for discussing Luke 4:1?

Do you study etymology of words?

So you can better understand the truth hidden in the bible? It's not a historial book to be taken literally it's full of metaphysical allegories and parables.. esoteric knowledge of inside the body hidden in the text for those with eyes that can see.

Like what?

Now u can do it too

Like looking for possible counterexamples that'll invalidate conclusions we don't agree with?

Okay. Initial thoughts. The Book of Luke makes liberal use of the Holy Spirit. I mean, we have numerous people being filled with and led by the Spirit in the first few chapters. It seems any amount of divine inspiration can be referred to as being “filled with the Holy Spirit.” Elizabeth’s hormonal excitement over being visited by Mary, for instance. Then, more significantly, we have the verse telling us John the Baptist was “filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born” (Luke 1:15).

This is interesting. Because we know there is a major distinction between the way John the Baptist has the Spirit and the way Jesus has the Spirit. The Book of Luke portrays both John and Jesus as being filled with the Holy Spirit, right? But in the Book of John, we have John the Baptist explaining his relation to the Spirit is nowhere near being worthy enough to even compare with the ‘limitless’ way Jesus has the Spirit. Why is that? If they’re both filled with the Spirit (per Luke), what’s the difference?

Do you take issue with Jesus killing himself and raising himself from the dead?

Sorry. My pursuits are academic. I'm not trying to write anything for new age or self help genres of popular press. Not that I have anything against that. It's just not what I'm doing here. Your discussions can be fascinating, but they're totally off-topic in this thread.

Nothing i discuss is off topic, nor is it new age or self-help. The bible itself even has verses stating people would not be able to understand the hidden meanings in it's words and they were right.

What you're talking about isn't deep.

It's earthly, not heavenly.

Also sorry if this seems a bit nosey, but do you happen to eat meat? Jesus himself said those who eat meat would not understand higher consciousness and higher mysteries/spiritual teachings.

The Christ within and yeshua's true teachings are indeed deep, for if they were not deep you would easily be able to understand it and not reject it.

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~ Esoteric Christianity ~
The Mystical Teachings of Esoteric Knowledge

Esoteric Christianity refers to the occult study and the mystic living of the esoteric knowledge related to what adherents view as the "inner teachings" of early Christianity, seen as a Mystery religion. The term is originally associated with the Essenes and later with the Rosicrucians.

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Modern-day scholars believe that the foundational teachings of Esoteric Christianity were held secret by the Essenes and the early Christians until publicly presented to the world in the early 20th century in an effort to establish a future universal religion as mankind, with a more developed mind and will, walk forward to the understandings of universal Brotherhood. Its central aim is to aid each human being in his/her task of developing the "Golden Wedding Garment": the Christ Within that must be born.

The Christ Within is defined as Paul of Tarsus' "soma psuchicon", meaning soul body, needed by each individual in order to be able to enter and permanently live in the next Sixth Epoch's etheric environment (new heavens and a new earth): the New Galilee.

These teachings are also believed to enable each individual to understand the mystery of life, that is, the mystery of death, eliminating the fear of it and are preparing human beings for in due time, as the Sun enters Aquarius by precession, to start seeing among themselves their true inner being.

This is done according to the words "For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad." (Luke 8:17; KJV) and it is knowledge that had to wait its own time to be grasped by our own mind, as Christ spoke: "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now." (John 16:12).

It is also referred in Esoteric Christianity that there are, and always have been, those being prepared towards Initiation - into the Lesser Mysteries, the secrets concerning the Science of Life and Being, in the spiritual worlds by the Hierophants of the seven invisible Lesser Mystery Schools - through harmonious development of the mind (occultist) and the heart (mystic) in a spirit of unselfishness service to mankind and an all-embracing altruism.

According to Max Heindel the door of a genuine Mystery School is not unlocked by a golden key, but is only opened as a reward for meritorious service to humanity. "The true pupil of any Mystery School is far too modest to advertise the fact, he will scorn all titles or honors from men, he will have no regard for riches save the riches of love given to him by those whom it becomes his privilege to help and teach."

Biblical Foundations

The Way: "Ego sum Via, Veritas et Vita"

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (John 14:6; KJV)

The Esoteric Knowledge

He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. (Matthew 13:11)

And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand. (Luke 8:10)

The Mystic Living (the heart)

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. (Matthew 16:24)

And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. (Luke 9:23)

The Occult Study (the mind)

And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 18:3)

Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. (Mark 10:15)

20th century Writings

The Western world is undoubtedly the vanguard of the human race, and, it is held by the Rosicrucian that neither Judaism nor "popular Christianity," but true Esoteric Christianity is to be its world-religion. (Max Heindel in The Rosicrucian Cosmo-Conception, 1909; Rosicrucian Fellowship)

This is the Way of the Divine Wisdom, the true THEOSOPHY. It is not, as some think, a diluted version of Hinduism, or Buddhism, or Taoism, or of any special religion. It is Esoteric Christianity as truly as it is Esoteric Buddhism, and belongs equally to all religions, exclusively to none. (Annie Besant, Esoteric Christianity or The Lesser Mysteries, 1914, Theosophical Society)

In Christianity, too, especially as far as its central point, the Mystery of Golgotha, is concerned, we must make a distinction between exoteric conceptions and esoteric knowledge. An exoteric contemplation of Christianity, accessible to all the world, is contained in the Gospels. Side by side with this exoteric contemplation, there has always been an esoteric Christianity for those who were willing - as I have said before - to prepare their hearts and minds in an adequate way for the reception of an esoteric Christianity. (Rudolf Steiner, Exoteric and Esoteric Christianity, 1922, Anthroposophical Society)

If this inner doctrine were always concealed from the masses, for whom a simpler code had been devised, is it not highly probable that the exponents of every aspect of modern civilization--philosophic, ethical, religious, and scientific-are ignorant of the true meaning of the very theories and tenets on which their beliefs are founded? Do the arts and sciences that the race has inherited from older nations conceal beneath their fair exterior a mystery so great that only the most illumined intellect can grasp its import? Such is undoubtedly the case.

Titus 1:15
To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.

Matt 15:11
What goes into someone's mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them."

Romans 14:17
"For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."

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was himself a vegetarian In the Essene New Testament, Jesus declares:

Verily I say unto you, they who partake of benefits which are gotten by wronging one of God's creatures, cannot be righteous: nor can they understand holy things, or teach the mysteries of the kingdom. whose hands are stained with blood or whose mouths are defiled with flesh....Wherefore I say unto all who desire to be my disciples, keep your hands from bloodshed and let no flesh meat enter your mouths.
We see above that Jesus required vegetarianism from anyone who desired to become his disciple. Likewise, we read in another verse from the same manuscript:

A disciple of Jesus asked him a question, saying, "Master, if there come to us any that eat flesh... shall we receive them?"
And Jesus said unto him, let such abide in the outer court till they cleanse themselves from these grosser evils; for till they perceive, and repent of these, they are not fit to receive the higher mysteries.

Of course, Jesus practiced what he preached; he was himself a vegetarian. In fact, in the following verse he describes himself not only as a vegetarian, but as an Essene Fruitarian. Before sharing that verse with you, I will briefly define the term Essene Fruitarian (a bit later we will more fully define it). An Essene Fruitarian eats only the parts of a plant that can be eaten without killing the plant. This includes obvious fruits such as apples and oranges, but also includes anything else you can eat without killing the plant: squash, corn, cucumbers, etc. We will expand on this definition soon, but let us now consider the following verse in which Jesus describes himself not only as a vegetarian, but as an Essene Fruitarian:

For of the fruits of the trees and the seeds of the earth alone do I partake, and these are changed by the Spirit into my flesh and my blood. Of these alone and their like shall ye eat who believe in me, and are my disciples, for of these, in the Spirit, come life and health and healing unto man.
In the above excerpt, the term "and their like" refers to "other similar vegetarian foods" ; but it is quite clear that though Jesus only required basic vegetarianism from new disciples, he certainly strongly encouraged his veteran disciples to go on to become Essene fruitarians. That is made clear in the following excerpt from The Essene New Testament; Jesus said:

God giveth the grains and the fruits of the earth for food; and for righteous man truly there is no other lawful sustenance for the body.... For God is just and bountiful who ordaineth that man shall live by the fruits and seeds of the earth alone.
Now a more detailed definition of the term Essene Fruitarian. We have already stated that an Essene Fruitarian eats only the part of a plant that can be eaten without killing the plant. Thus, not only the typical "fruits" can be eaten -- grapefruit, grapes, figs, dates, etc. -- but also corn, squash, broccoli, almonds, sunflower seeds, AND ANY OTHER VEGETARIAN FOOD YOU CAN EAT WITHOUT KILLING THE PLANT . Lettuce can be eaten if harvested correctly : simply pick the outer leaves of the lettuce, rather than uproot the plant. The lettuce will continue to grow more leaves and you can continue to harvest the outer leaves every few days. Eventually it will go to seed; you can harvest the seed for your next planting. Even grains such as wheat can be eaten, since it is not necessary to uproot the grass to harvest the grain. Although many Essene Fruitarians will choose to be vegan (a vegan is a vegetarian who eats no animal products at all, including dairy products), it is possible to eat dairy products on this diet since the animal is not killed and the milk comes from grass that need not be uprooted. However, it is important that the dairy product be from animals that are loved and well cared for, and that the animals are not killed when they grow old and non-productive. Jesus permitted his Essene Fruitarian disciples to have milk products; but in those days that meant RAW milk from animals you or your neighbors loved and cared for, as they had no cruel factory dairy farms back then. And the milk would have been from sheep or goats, not cows. The milk of sheep and goats is far easier to digest than the milk of a cow. The milk you buy at a typical grocery store in modern America IS NOT THE MILK ENDORSED BY JESUS! Grocery store milk is not raw, is not from animals well cared for, and is not from sheep or goats. Again, one can choose to be a vegan Essene Fruitarian. But in order to support my assertion that Jesus permitted his disciples to use RAW dairy products, I quote from The Essene Gospel of Peace:

Wherefore, prepare and eat all fruits of trees, and all grasses of the fields, and all milk of beasts good for eating For all these are fed and ripened by the fire of life; all are the gift of the angels of our Earthly Mother. But eat nothing to which only the fire of death gives savor, for such is of Satan.
Jesus' reference above to foods that are "ripened by the fire of life" is a reference to raw foods. His reference to "the fire of death" is a reference to cooked foods. Above, we see that he specified that not only milk, but all our other Essene Fruitarian foods as well, should be raw --uncooked-- if at all possible. Jesus' emphasis on raw food vegetarianism is made clear in the following excerpt from The Essene Gospel of Peace:

But I do say unto you: Kill neither men, nor beasts, nor yet the food which goes into your mouth. For if you eat living food, the same will quicken you, but if you kill your food, the dead food will kill you also. For life comes only from life, and from death comes always death. For everything which kills your foods, kills your bodies also.... Therefore, eat not anything which fire, or frost, ... has destroyed I tell you truly, live only by the fire of life, and prepare not your foods with the fire of death.
The fact that the term "fire of life" means foods heated only by the rays of the Sun, with no other cooking, is made clear in the following passage. The following passage is also significant in that Jesus gives his own bread recipe! It is this recipe that gave birth to the Essene Bread (sprouted grain breads) sold in modern health food stores, though the health food stores cook with an oven rather than the Sun that Jesus insisted on:

"How should we cook our daily bread without fire, Master?" asked some with great astonishment.
Jesus replied, "Let the angels of God prepare your bread Moisten your wheat, that the angel of water may enter it. Then set it in the air, that the angel of air also may embrace it. And leave it from morning to evening beneath the sun, that the angel of sunshine may descend upon it. And the blessing of the three angels will soon make the germ of life to sprout in your wheat, Then crush your grain, and make thin wafers.... Put them back again beneath the sun.... And the same sun which with the fire of life, mode the wheat to grow and ripen, must cook your bread with the same fire. For the fire of the sun gives life to the wheat, to the bread and to the body. But the fire of death kills the wheat, the bread and the body."

The word mete was translated into meat and it wasnt until the year 1300 did it mean meat from flesh.

This is why etymology is important and words have been mistranslated to change the whole purpose of teachings.

No. I'm not predisposed to rejecting anything outright in this discussion.

Of course, I did grow up under a severe form of religious indoctrination. And it's not always easy to see how my views are being impacted even after all these years.

I don't think I ever really thought my way through this part of the Gospel. I listened. I studied. But only as I was told to do. I never got the chance to examine before I left the church. My scholarly pursuits in philosophy and religious studies didn't involve Christianity until this past year.

I only became a christian 2 years ago, never read the Bible until then.

I'm 28

Genesis 1:30

"to every beast, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creeps upon the earth, behold, we will give them life and we will give to them EVERY GREEN HERB FOR MEAT, and all these things shall be thus organised."

Stop trolling.

Your understanding is profane.

Not interested. I'm here to talk to Photine.

"I only became a christian 2 years ago, never read the Bible until then."

Well we know who the troll is here.

I teach truth, and i don't eat meat. Obviously you do.

When you've spent 30 years researching and now just pretending to be a Christian for 2 years and ruled by your ego which is who satan is.

You trying to keep people from paying attention to real truth is only going to lead you down a path i'm sure you don't want to go.

Oh okay, I'll leave you to talk to a self proclaimed 2 year Christian who hardly understands the truth hidden in the bible. Have a great evening <3

Wisdom has nothing to do with age, it's the gift of God.

Wow. Don't even know what to say..

Maybe it's better and easier for adults who didn't grow up religiously to find faith? I dunno, my mind is kinda blown here..

No, you're teaching a counterfeit.



I like pork, and beer, I like pork and beer a lot.

I've seen no wisdom from you except childish insults and a closed mind to truth.

Jesus himself said meat eaters would not be able to understand higher consciousness. Why? Meat eating keeps you stuck in the lower REPTILE mind.

Prayer works.