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Christ is the flaming sword that guards tree of life in the Garden of Eden.

 
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So you believe Jesus conceived himself Photine?
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Jesus descended from Heaven, he's eternal, remember?

He was never concieved; instead, He is the source of creation.
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Father God was NEVER "born", yet Jesus makes this statement.
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Spare me your copy pasted garbage.
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Finally, under YOUR "theory", EVERY VERSE in the Bible where the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit is mentioned SHOULD SAY Jesus???

NONE of that makes ANY sense.

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Jesus descended from Heaven, he's eternal, remember?

He was never concieved; instead, He is the source of creation.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Father God was NEVER "born", yet Jesus makes this statement.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Spare me your copy pasted garbage.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Paul's verse doesn't prove that Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

Jesus wasn't "full of Himself"
Jesus wasn't "led by Himself"

BOOM

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being

full
of the Holy Ghost

returned from Jordan,

and was led by the Spirit

into the wilderness,

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Jesus fasted and did kundalini meditation for 40 days raising the Christ oil in his spine up the 33 vertebrae to anoint his brain with the oil.

These adepts knew that the secretion (gray matter creative) which issues (secretes), from the cerebrum, was the source and cause of the physical expression called man; and they knew that the “River of Jordan” was symbolized in the spinal cord and that the “Dead Sea” was used to symbolize the Sacred Plexus at the base of the spinal column where the Jordan (spinal cord) ends, typifying the entrance of Jordan into the Dead Sea.

The thick, oily and salty substance composing the Sacral Plexus, “Cauda Equina” (tail of the horse), may be likened unto crude Petroleum (Petra, mineral, or salt, and oleum Latin for oil) and the thinner substance, oil or ointment in the spinal cord, may be compared with coal oil ; and when this oil is carried up and crosses the Ida and Pingala (two fluid nerves that end in a cross in medulla oblongata where it contacts the cerebellum (Golgotha the place of the skull) this fluid is refined, as coal oil is refined, to produce gasoline a higher rate of motion that causes the ascension of the airship.

When the oil (ointment) is crucified (to crucify means to increase in power a thousand fold not to kill) it remains two days and a half, (the moon’s period in a sign) in the tomb (cerebellum) and on the third day ascends to the Pineal Gland that connects the cerebellum with the Optic Thalmus, the Central Eye in the Throne of God that is the chamber overtopped by the hollow (hallowed) caused by the curve of the cerebrum (the “Most High” of the body) which is the “Temple of the Living God” the living, vital substance which is a precipitation of the “Breath of Life” breathed into man therefore, the “Holy (whole) Ghost” or breath.
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Jesus descended from Heaven, he's eternal, remember?

He was never concieved; instead, He is the source of creation.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Father God was NEVER "born", yet Jesus makes this statement.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Spare me your copy pasted garbage.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Finally, under YOUR "theory", EVERY VERSE in the Bible where the Holy Ghost / Holy Spirit is mentioned SHOULD SAY Jesus???

NONE of that makes ANY sense.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


These two nerves merge in the solar plexus. There their unity receives the Holy Breath (as people should breathe deeply so that the solar plexus receives oxygen as well) and then the Christ seed is born. That’s the esoteric trinity; the pineal gland is male; the pituitary body is female; and the breath is the Spirit.

the living, vital substance which is a precipitation of the "Breath of Life" breathed into man — therefore the "Holy (whole) Ghost" or breath.

As is the oil tree from which the anointment Chrisma comes.

The Chrism is the source of resurrection". Krishna

C.G. Jung recognised the link between the Divine Feminine and the Eastern principle of Kundalini.

He understood that the Kundalini was the representation of the Goddess within each of us.

Chrism

Is the Holy Ghost the Kundalini? Was the Kundalini a central principle in early mystic Christianity?

Such an assumption would help us reinterpret many parts of the mainstream bible, for example; In the Gospel of John, Christ explains to the Pharisee Nicodemus, " Verily I say unto thee, except a man be born of water and the spirit; he cannot enter the kingdom of God", this second birth far from being a licence for so many born again Christian fundamentalists is something much more mystical and subtle in nature.

To be "born of the water and the spirit" describes the awakening of Kundalini. She is often described as a divine mother whose ascent within the spine of the seeker gives them rebirth into mystic/gnostic awareness, the 'divine water' is its nourishing energy. The Kundalini enters the Sahasrara and there unites the seeker's awareness with the self or spirit. This is described as a blissful, infinite experience of the kingdom of God within. Thus, Christ's 'born again' Christianity might actually refer to those Christians who have entered the realm of direct experience of divinity, in the state of self realisation.
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The Holy Spirit is
the Breath of Life

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THE HOLY SPIRIT is the third person of the Holy Trinity, indivisible, "Within you, there is breath, and material impersonal in nature, but in God as life itself, breath is a personal spirit, indivisible, simple, that gives Life to everything." "We may ask, why is the third Person called Spirit, and why is He a separate Person, when God, even without Him, is Spirit? I answer: The Holy Spirit is called Spirit in relation to creatures: the Lord breathed with His Hypostatic Spirit, and there appeared, by the power of His Life-Giving Spirit, an innumerable host of spirits: In the power of His Spirit lies their strength; He breathed with His Spirit into man's body: and now man became a living soul, and from this Breath, until now, people are born, and will be born until the end according to the commandment: increase and multiply. If the Lord created by His Spirit so many personal separate beings, then why is it impossible for the Holy Spirit Himself to be a Person, or a personal creative Being? If there are countless numbers of created personal spirits, then is God Himself to remain without Spirit, without His independent, Hypostatic Personality?"

"The Holy Spirit, like air, 'is present everywhere and fillest [penetrates] all things.'" "The Lord Jesus Christ Himself likens the Holy Spirit in His action to the substance of water (John 7:38-39), air, or wind (John 3:8)." "As the air in the room is identical with the outer air and comes from it, and necessarily presupposes the air spread out everywhere, so in like manner, our soul, the breath of the Spirit of God, presupposes the existence of the omnipresent, transcendent Spirit of God."

"It is the Spirit that quickeneth" (John 6:63). "The life in creatures belongs to God, from the time of their creation, and to God the Son, their creator, bringing them from non-existence to existence... The Holy Spirit creates us in the womb of our mother; our spiritual wealth belongs to the Holy Spirit."

Our soul lives by the Holy Spirit, through Him we pray, through Him we become purified, through Him we save ourselves. "As breath is necessary for the body, and without breathing man cannot live, so without the Breath of the Holy Spirit the soul cannot live the true life. What the air is for the body, the Holy Spirit is for the soul. Air is likened to the Spirit of God. The Spirit breathes wherever It wishes." "He who prays by the Holy Spirit." "Prayer is the breath of the soul, as air is the breath of the natural body. We breathe by the Holy Spirit. You cannot say a single word of prayer from your heart without the Holy Spirit."

"As in a conversation with people the sound-conveying medium between our words and the words of another is air, which is everywhere and fills all space, and through air the words reach the ear of another, and without air it would be impossible to speak and hear: so in a spiritual manner, in communication with spiritual beings the mediator is the Holy Spirit, omnipresent and transcendent."

"We are filled with One Spirit: Do you see how the Holy Spirit surrounds us like water and air on all sides?"
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When you do kundalini meditation you do specific breathing to bring in chi/prana/life force energy.

This breathing is bringing in spirit (ether/chi/prana), which is the holy spirit.

The word Spirit is often described in yoga as the Breath of Life. Jesus described the Holy Spirit like the wind. The Holy Spirit, the breath, is what sustains, fills, strengthens and protects us. So a strong pranayama practice is essential! Pranayama is the fourth limb of yoga which emphasizes various breathing techniques. Every asana, or yoga posture, is an opportunity to meditate and become one with Spirit. In Kundalini Yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan, every Kriya, or yoga set, is an occasion to reach my Sat Nam. My Highest Self. My True Identity. My Spirit.
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Just shut up already
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Telling one who is teaching you truth to shut up is your EGO controlling you.

Your ego is the devil.

Stop letting it control you

It's okay to learn something and admit you didn't know this.
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Telling one who is teaching you truth to shut up is your EGO controlling you.

Your ego is the devil.

Stop letting it control you

It's okay to learn something and admit you didn't know this.
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Tell me?
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Gal 4:19
My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you,

Rev 12:1-2
A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.

Gen 3:15
And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.”
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Hmmm..

We sow/conceive the seed of the Gospel (commandments of the Father)
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the commandment of Father is Jesus... the Word (Law) of God
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True. But straight-up knowledge and order is more the Father. Hear me out. Though this knowledge and will is equally within Jesus, Jesus delivers the Father’s knowledge and will unto the world (and also delivers the knowledge and will of the world back unto the father) and is responsible for fruits produced when divine will is put into practice. The knowledge is from source. The message and fruits are from the acting spirit of source (Jesus).
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"Chi, prana, Holy Spirit and other terms for the Spirit are all salvific"

The Holy Spirit, Chi, and the Other
"Chi, prana, Holy Spirit and other terms for the Spirit are all salvific in that they can save us within ourselves and in relation to others. Chi embraces life and makes it whole. It will heal and bring life to what is broken. Therefore, it is essential that humanity recognize this Spirit and affirm it in their lives. Chi has an emancipatory element as it frees us from the bonds of oppression that prevent us from celebrating life. When humanity neglects or ignores the force of Chi, problems of animosity and oppression can arise.”

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"One Spirit or Many?

Christians want a pneumatology that includes both transcendental and immanent dimensions of the Holy Spirit. God is not merely the 'Wholly Other' but also the 'God with us and in us.' At the beginning of the third millennium, Christians long to see, touch, and feel the presence of the Divine Spirit. Come, Holy Spirit! As Christians seek this, they come into dialogue with other religions that may have experienced Spirit in a similar fashion. Chi and other global understandings of the Spirit also express this Divine within us. Chi, prana, and ha are all versions of the life-giving Spirit and the essential element for all life to exist. If human beings can recognize this and accept this, we can all live in more harmony and peace with one another.

Chi will be a crucial element in how one does theology. It is found in all parts of the world by various ethnic groups and may be the binding element that will keep us from destroying ourselves, each other, and the planet. It is a Spirit that bonds and pulls humanity closer with all other living creatures. It will sustain us and keep us aware of our interconnectedness and interreliance. We need to turn to Chi and welcome its presence in our bodies and our lives so that we can be more aware of the Spirit.

Chi, prana, Holy Spirit and other terms for the Spirit are all salvific in that they can save us within ourselves and in relation to others. Chi embraces life and makes it whole. It will heal and bring life to what is broken. Therefore, it is essential that humanity recognize this Spirit and affirm it in their lives. Chi has an emancipatory element as it frees us from the bonds of oppression that prevent us from celebrating life. When humanity neglects or ignores the force of Chi, problems of animosity and oppression can arise.”

When Asian contextual theology encounters the Chi of Taoism and its spirituality, it expands the dimension of the Spirit. The understanding of the Spirit moves toward a cosmic-natural process of living organisms for the multireligious mystical experience of human life. Although the Spirit in Christianity is not equated with an immanent and impersonal force, Jesus does say, "The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit" (John 3: 8).

It is important to recognize the similarities between the Holy Spirit and other manifestations of the Spirit in our world. With this acceptance, it is then crucial to accept and welcome the Other who have different forms of expressing the same phenomena. In particular, the racialized immigrants who come to the West come here to begin a new life with many hopes and dreams. It is important not to make them the Other and have power and authority over them, but rather to embrace and empower each other. The power of Chi can help build bridges that have been torn down by ignorance and dominance. The destructive powers of separation can be overcome through Chi. Chi dwells in all things and within us. It has the power to make a positive difference in this world. Thus it is important to acknowledge that Chi is crucial for our livelihood and to realize that Chi is the Spirit in all things. This Spirit is the same Spirit of God. If God dwells within us, it makes a difference in how we live and treat others and nature.

There is much to learn from the many Eastern traditions and from one another. The Eastern traditions cannot be easily dismissed and ignored as their concept of Chi adds richness and new dimension to the Christian concept of God. In Christianity, there needs to be a stronger awareness of the Spirit within us. It is this Spirit that gives us life and maintains our life. In the West, we are so concerned with the physical being and the physical body that the Spirit does not come into the forefront. Rather we have largely adopted a "technical," even mechanical view of the body. We need to recognize the importance of the Spirit within our daily lives. In doing so, we may recognize the commonalities that exist between us and the Other. We will then be in a position to welcome and embrace one another. This is of crucial importance as we live in this global village where everything is becoming closer and more interconnected.

God within Us

We have encountered a God who also inhabits all created things. For Martin Luther, the creatures of God are not only human beings. God's creatures include "Water, air , the earth and all its products.” Likewise the creatures indwelled by God are not limited to the human. Luther insisted that God and Christ are actually present not only in human beings but in all created things. We are a dwelling place of Christ crucified, who lived and died for the sake of abundant life for all, and whose love for human beings could be stopped by nothing. God makes a home in matter for God's presence is felt within matter . The finite bears the infinite. As we awaken each morning, the great Lover and Liberator is alive in and among our bodies. The mystery of creation "Is the indwelling of God within it.” We creatures from the earth are home to One who breathes through creation, healing, making whole, undoing injustice, and restoring right relationships, so that all might have life and have it abundantly.

Chi reminds us of many things above or about the Divine. God and God's Spirit is always within us. This is what has given us life and sustains us throughout our life. We are the holy temples of God and this knowledge should make all the difference in how we treat ourselves, others, and nature. It is clearly evident that once we recognize that God is within us, we will treat ourselves , others, and nature with respect, love, and ultimate care. As we live in this ever-growing society of multinational corporations, imperialism , and colonialism, we need to take a deep breath and recognize these dangers and work toward justice and peace. This is ever crucial to us as we try to live on this planet and try to preserve it for the next generations.

Conclusion

As Christian theology works toward a new pneumatology, it is important to expand its concepts beyond the Western notions of the Spirit and embrace a global understanding of the Spirit. This will enable us to open up our previously conceived notions of the Spirit and embrace a more inclusive and holistic understanding. A global understanding of the Spirit will contribute to eliminating injustice and racism within society, open doors for interreligious dialogue, and make the world a better place for all who inhabit it. The global understanding of the Spirit as energy will renew us and bring us closer to the Divine. Ultimately, this Spirit is from God and we need to recognize its power and dimension. It will be the liberating element in our lives and the way to empowerment. All people need to recognize the strong powerful element of the Spirit and share this Spirit with others. This Spirit is the energy that is inside the fundamental building blocks of all living things. It is essentially what gives life and acknowledging this enables us to be aware of the Spirit within us. As people recognize the commonality of the Spirit with other religions, it will renew their hope in humanity and aid them in living with the Other, defined as those who are different culturally, ethnically, and religiously.
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Therefore Prana can be understood as the life energy which gives life to the body and keeps it healthy and alive. The equivalent of Prana in Hebrew language is ruah, referring to the “breath of life” being called as Nephesch; which was breathed into the nostrils of Adam in the beginning of creation. The same concept exists in Persian philosophy when God breathed into the nostrils of Man the Breath of Life.
“Prana is that life energy which nourishes the whole body so that it could, together with its different organs, function properly and normally. Without energy the body would die.”


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Just shut up already
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John 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body

1 Corintians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

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1 Corintians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


2 Corinthians 3:17
The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

1 Cor 15:45
the last Adam - The Life Giver Spirit.

Eph 4:4
There is One Spirit.

1 Cor 8:6b
There is One Lord, Jesus.


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Gal 4:19
My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you,

Rev 12:1-2
A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. 2She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth.

Gen 3:15
And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel.”
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Hmmm..

We sow/conceive the seed of the Gospel (commandments of the Father)
 Quoting: Bee Free


the commandment of Father is Jesus... the Word (Law) of God
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


True. But straight-up knowledge and order is more the Father. Hear me out. Though this knowledge and will is equally within Jesus, Jesus delivers the Father’s knowledge and will unto the world (and also delivers the knowledge and will of the world back unto the father) and is responsible for fruits produced when divine will is put into practice. The knowledge is from source. The message and fruits are from the acting spirit of source (Jesus).
 Quoting: Bee Free


BeeFree has it sank in yet that Christ must be formed in you?
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Just shut up already
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John 2:21 But he spake of the temple of his body

1 Corintians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
 Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD


When you raise the christ oil (chrism) which is the cerebral spinal fluid in your spine and the Seed we get a chance to save for 2-3 days every month and bathe your brain and pineal/pituitary glands with it this is what true internal anointing is.

This gives you unconditional love and healing abilities plus much much more. It literally transforms your whole life.

So many refuse to even try to give this information a chance to understand the true hidden teachings of Jesus and how we fix our broken minds and bodies and can transform this world into a Heaven on Earth.

When we awaken Kundalini or the have the sacred secretion of christ oil in our system we begin to see for the first time through that christ consciousness that we all are. Then our journey is to be that christ consciousness as the ego begins to try and take our attention away from our spirit.


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Jesus didn't want you to worship him or submit to him, he wanted you to do the work as he did to become just like him!

How else can we change this world if people refuse to be like him and be Christ-like and live by the golden rule?
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People didn't listen to his teachings back then and nothing has changed since.

Take a look around you at this world .. Does it seem any better than 2000 years ago?

When you're being loving and trying to open up fellow Christian's eyes and all they do is be ego-driven and tell you to shut up and insult you, refusing to be open minded and listen to what you have to say.

Sigh, yet i still try everyday and i never will stop.

Rome still controls this world to this very day, yet most can't even see it.
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Hmmm..

We sow/conceive the seed of the Gospel (commandments of the Father)
 Quoting: Bee Free


the commandment of Father is Jesus... the Word (Law) of God
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


True. But straight-up knowledge and order is more the Father. Hear me out. Though this knowledge and will is equally within Jesus, Jesus delivers the Father’s knowledge and will unto the world (and also delivers the knowledge and will of the world back unto the father) and is responsible for fruits produced when divine will is put into practice. The knowledge is from source. The message and fruits are from the acting spirit of source (Jesus).
 Quoting: Bee Free


BeeFree has it sank in yet that Christ must be formed in you?
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


What happens in the world and what happens in me are two different discussions. If you want to deny the third person realm of the it-world, i’m totally down. But it’s only permissible one discussion at a time. If we wholly dismiss the world of difference and abstraction, we lose the distinction of You and I in the process. Nothingness sounds more appealing than it actually is. Believe me.
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Matt 8:28
And when he came to the other side, into the country of the Gadarenes, two people possessed by demons met him there, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that nobody could pass that way.

Revelation 11:9
From among the peoples, tribes, languages, and nations will people look at their dead bodies for three and a half days, and will not allow their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb.
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the commandment of Father is Jesus... the Word (Law) of God
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


True. But straight-up knowledge and order is more the Father. Hear me out. Though this knowledge and will is equally within Jesus, Jesus delivers the Father’s knowledge and will unto the world (and also delivers the knowledge and will of the world back unto the father) and is responsible for fruits produced when divine will is put into practice. The knowledge is from source. The message and fruits are from the acting spirit of source (Jesus).
 Quoting: Bee Free


BeeFree has it sank in yet that Christ must be formed in you?
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


What happens in the world and what happens in me are two different discussions. If you want to deny the third person realm of the it-world, i’m totally down. But it’s only permissible one discussion at a time. If we wholly dismiss the world of difference and abstraction, we lose the distinction of You and I in the process. Nothingness sounds more appealing than it actually is. Believe me.
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This goes back to why I’m studying here in the first place. The dialogical structure of reality in human beings. ‘I’ don’t begin to exist until ‘You’ are actively formed within my presence.
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Matt 8:28
And when he came to the other side, into the country of the Gadarenes, two people possessed by demons met him there, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that nobody could pass that way.

Revelation 11:9
From among the peoples, tribes, languages, and nations will people look at their dead bodies for three and a half days, and will not allow their dead bodies to be laid in a tomb.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


John 20:John 20:1-4
1Now the first day of the week Mary Magdalene went to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. 2Then she ran and came to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid Him.”

3Peter therefore went out, and the other disciple, and were going to the tomb. 4So they both ran together, and the other disciple outran Peter and came to the tomb first.
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True. But straight-up knowledge and order is more the Father. Hear me out. Though this knowledge and will is equally within Jesus, Jesus delivers the Father’s knowledge and will unto the world (and also delivers the knowledge and will of the world back unto the father) and is responsible for fruits produced when divine will is put into practice. The knowledge is from source. The message and fruits are from the acting spirit of source (Jesus).
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BeeFree has it sank in yet that Christ must be formed in you?
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What happens in the world and what happens in me are two different discussions. If you want to deny the third person realm of the it-world, i’m totally down. But it’s only permissible one discussion at a time. If we wholly dismiss the world of difference and abstraction, we lose the distinction of You and I in the process. Nothingness sounds more appealing than it actually is. Believe me.
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This goes back to why I’m studying here in the first place. The dialogical structure of reality in human beings. ‘I’ don’t begin to exist until ‘You’ are actively formed within my presence.
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*Drools*
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I feel like there's a disconnect.
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I feel like no one is really saying just how crazy the verses I've been posting are... LOL
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Whoever does not work, will not eat!
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I’ve been wanting to tell you about the revelations I’ve had in my philosophical studies since coming upon your threads. Haven’t had much time to work them out. But am still excited about their prospects.

Buber, my existentialist hero, lays out the groundwork for the dialogical relationship between you and I with ease. It’s when he talks about relation with the ‘Eternal You’ that things begin to run amok in his discourse.

Sometimes it seems he’s saying relationship with the Eternal You is only indirectly realized through the fact that eternal relationship exists at all. Other times it seems he saying we have a relationship with the Eternal You through every relationship we have. It gets confusing. His work was never completed.

He does, however, in his description on the basic dialogical relationship between You and I, say that a common ‘You’ is necessary to be at the center of any community who functions through dialogue.

This was a major breakthrough for me. We as humans are incapable of having a direct dialogical relationship with God. likewise, God is too profound to engage with us. The common ‘You’ at the center is Jesus. Jesus is the ‘You’ to the subjective experience of ‘I am’ in creation. And Jesus is also the ‘You’ to the infinite and undefined powers of the great ‘I AM’ In the beyond.
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Sometimes it seems he’s saying relationship with the Eternal You is only indirectly realized through the fact that eternal relationship exists at all. Other times it seems he saying we have a relationship with the Eternal You through every relationship we have.
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Man and woman, image of God

Christ in us Col 1:27
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Ecc 4:11
Furthermore, if two lie down together they keep warm, but how can one be warm alone?
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Furthermore, if two lie down together they keep warm, but how can one be warm alone?
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John 21
7 Then I said to Peter, “It is the Lord!” At that, Simon Peter put on his tunic (for he was stripped to the waist) and jumped into the water and swam ashore.* 8 The rest of us stayed in the boat and pulled the loaded net to the beach, about 300 feet away. 9 When we got there, we saw that a fire was kindled and fish were frying over it, and there was bread.
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