Christ is the flaming sword that guards tree of life in the Garden of Eden.

It’s not shocking. Truth has never been in style.

Yeah but God could reveal the truth to anyone

They’d have to be willing to look in order to see

.... -__-

People .... geniuses... pour over the scriptures... "with fear and trembling"... nada

I know. Okay, I’ll admit. I was shocked when I scoured academia.edu and didn’t come across one paper on Jesus as the Holy Spirit. Not one. Out of tens of thousands of papers related to the Trinitarian doctrine.

I think I was getting there. Because of my work on Buber’s I and Thou. I couldn’t reconcile it with trinitarian doctrine. There can only be one mediator as far as I’m concerned. But no one had any explanation. Well, until you.

For the simple fact it's NOT TRUTH.

False doctrine.

There is every other brand of false doctrine in academic writing. Funny how this one is missing.

NONSENSE

Jesus DOES NOT LIE.

John 14:16 "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever;

John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.

It's a new one.

One that doesn't address critical review.

1. So Jesus landed on His OWN shoulder at His baptism?

2. So Father God DID NOT speak from heaven at the baptism AND the Transfiguration?

3. So Jesus LED HIMSELF into the wilderness after His baptism?

4. So blasphemy of the Son of God Jesus can be forgiven BUT NOT blasphemy of Holy Spirit Jesus?

Surely TLS' punishment will be grand, and mighty his fall!

There is no good reason this interpretation should be new. It’s painfully obvious.

Asked and answered. To all these seeming discrepancies. You refuse to engage in proper exegesis. Truth will not be found in a Verse v. Verse showdown. It’s laughable to think the Bible could ever be that simple. But I’m not trying to convert you or anyone else here. I am trying to learn and develop an account of my best reading. People will still see what they want to see.

Lord knows I myself didn't ponder all the "discrepancies" lol

I find it really interesting that these minor discrepancies in the verses (which are capable of being explained) are somehow more alarming than the implications of two mediators and two persons within Jesus.

Right?!!!?!!?!?!?!?!!

ALL THIS FUSS OVER THE SON OF GOD, THE ONE AND ONLY OF GOD, AND OH THERE'S ALSO A THIRD PERSON

Our omnipotent and omnipresent God manifested in multiple places at the same time. Impossible. There must be more than one.

Like Jesus is the ONLY OF GOD, And the IMAGE of God, but "OH there's also a third person proceeding from God eternally called the HOLY SPIRIT and He's the Power of God, not Jesus, and He's actually the Advocate, and the Lord, and the Life Giver, and He lives in us, not Jesus, YOU'RE DEMON POSESSED!"

"Jesus is God's Messenger and High Priest, the centerpiece of everything we believe, oh also there's a third person and he is the mediator between God and our high priest, and between our High Priest and us... He's the Advocate, he basically is everything and does everything instead of Jesus..."

Sadly, that doesn’t even read as sarcasm. That’s just an accurate rundown of their doctrine.

Yup.

Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


Like hello?!

Is this the TWILIGHT ZONE?

THIS IS A MADHOUSE, A MADHOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU​UUUUUUU

If I have to choose between the Spirit defying time and space, and there being more than one mediator between God and man, I’m going to choose the Spirit who comes and goes as freely as the wind and keep Jesus as my only way.

"Proper exegesis"?

UTTER NONSENSE. You might as well join the urantia spaceship lies.

NO ONE has answered the 4 simple questions above - NOR ANY of the others I have posed.

It's laughable to think that you folks want to ignore the verses above and the questions I posed - WHICH you CANNOT answer.

It's also laughable that you people think that you're smarter than even the 12 Apostles were.

They SAID "Jesus is the SON OF God".

NOT the Holy Spirit.

You yourself are a breath of fresh air