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 User ID: 78910740  United States05/14/2020 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you mean "son of the third entity" since you believe "the third entity" impregnated Mary and Fathered Jesus instead of the Father. THe Holy Spirit was the "conduit". The power of the Father is what did it. ALL of creation was INITIATED BY the Father. Whatever the Father did - Jesus merely did the SAME thing. John 5:19 & John 8:28 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
| Servant-of-the-LORD
User ID: 78910740 United States05/14/2020 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD But you said "the third entity" was SENT. Did God send the third entity AND Jesus? Look fuckface. You keep TRYING to go around in circles. I'm TIRED of your bullshit. SHUT UP Demon breath.  ...  ............... ...............I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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| Photine User ID: 75525114 Canada05/14/2020 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But you said "the third entity" was SENT. Did God send the third entity AND Jesus? Look fuckface. You keep TRYING to go around in circles. I'm TIRED of your bullshit. SHUT UP Demon breath. ... ..............................There is NOOOO NOOOO "THIRD ENTITY". 1 Mediator |
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| Photine User ID: 75525114 Canada05/14/2020 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you mean "son of the third entity" since you believe "the third entity" impregnated Mary and Fathered Jesus instead of the Father. THe Holy Spirit was the "conduit". Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Stop making stuff up. The Father didn't impregnate Mary with Jesus THROUGH "THE THIRD ENTITY", there is no such thing. And ALL THINGS THRU JESUS (1 Cor 8:6b). NOTHING thru "the third entity". ONE Mediator between God and man. |
| Photine User ID: 75525114 Canada05/14/2020 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was SENT. John 6:38-39 I came down from heaven Dude Jesus just said he came down from heaven. Ya fuckin' liar... Coming down from heaven = sent 1 person was sent from God, Jesus God did not send "the third entity" to impregnate Mary with Jesus. JESUS came down /was sent. There IS NO "THIRD ENTITY". |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78913898 United States05/14/2020 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where does Jesus state that "I created" or "I am the Creator"? He doesn't. Can't be. Jesus clearly copied what the Father did. John 5:19 & John 8:28 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. Father God is THE SOURCE of ALL. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78913898 United States05/14/2020 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was SENT. John 6:38-39 I came down from heaven Dude Jesus just said he came down from heaven. Ya fuckin' liar... Coming down from heaven = sent 1 person was sent from God, Jesus God did not send "the third entity" to impregnate Mary with Jesus. JESUS came down /was sent. There IS NO "THIRD ENTITY". So Jesus just magically came down to earth THROUGH Mary?  The "power of the Most High" - the Father - THRU the Holy Spirit - made Mary pregnate. SENT. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78913898 United States05/14/2020 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Photine Bible - the Annunciation Luke 1:35 The angel answered and said to her, "Holy Spirit Jesus .... and Holy Spirit Jesus.... and for that reason the holy Child shall be called Holy Spirit Jesus.... ======================= Photine Bible - banishment from Eden Gen 3:24 And so God cast out Adam, and to the east of the Garden of Eden he placed cherubim, and the flaming Jesus a sword of flame which turned about, to guard the way to the tree of Jesus ======================= The Photine Bible - account of Jesus baptism Holy Spirit Jesus lands on Son of God Jesus. Holy Spirit Jesus FILLS Son of God Jesus. Holy Spirit Jesus LEADS Son of God Jesus into the wilderness. ================================== The Photine Bible - account of Jesus with Satan "IF you are Holy Spirit Jesus, create a pile of rocks. ...THEN... IF you are the Son of God Jesus, turn those rocks into bread." ==================================== The Photine Bible - Jesus speaks about blasphemy PHOTINE Matthew 12 31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against Holy Spirit Jesus 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of God Jesus it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against Holy Spirit Jesus neither in this world, neither in the world to come. =================================== The Photine Bible - account of Father God speaking from Heaven at the Baptism and the Transfiguration Baptism Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved SPIRIT, in whom I am well pleased. Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved SPIRIT, in whom I am well pleased. |
| Bee Free
User ID: 77543161 United States05/14/2020 01:42 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where’s your analysis of the Greek? What about a rebuttal of what I see in the Greek? Or do you believe source texts shouldn’t be examined? Quoting: Bee Free Mark 14:62 And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power ‘At’ is translated from the word ‘ek’ which means from the interior outwards. (ek) has a two-layered meaning ("out from within") which makes it out-come oriented (out of the depths of the source and extending to its impact on the object). Reads like Jesus is within the right hand and extending out into the world, no? John 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. I don't need to ANALyse the Greek. You're disecting ONE verse in an effort to invalidate SEVERAL others. It FAILS. "Proper translation"??? UTTER NONSENSE Jesus NEVER says "I am the power of God" Jesus NEVER says "I am the right hand of God" Jesus NEVER says "the Holy Spirit is the power of God" You folks ALWAYS dismiss what Jesus states TRYING to prove your false doctrines. Jesus CLEARLY states that He sits "ON the right hand OF power"... ..."OF God". Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. Luke 22:69 Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God. Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. ================================== Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. Mark 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? =================================== "right hand" occurs 44 times in 44 verses in the New Testament in the KJV. [link to www.blueletterbible.org (secure)] No. The same Greek word ‘ek’ is used in all the Gospel verses you're citing (Mt. 26:64, Mk. 14:62, Mk. 16:19, Lk. 22:69). A definite article (the) precedes ‘right hand’ in Acts 2:33. The prepositions (to, by, at) were added. Proper reading of the Greek validates Messianic prophecy in the Hebrew Bible which refers to the pre-incarnate Christ as the right hand of God. You do believe the incarnation of Jesus fulfilled messianic prophecy in the OT, correct? We should expect, then, for the NT to reveal Jesus as the author and hermeneutic canon of the OT. Which it does. The proper translation also validates Jesus being within the Father just as He says He is. |
| Bee Free
User ID: 77543161 United States05/14/2020 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IF Jesus WAS the Holy Spirit - you SHOULD BE able to interchange the names / titles. YOU are trying to claim "not so". Quoting: Servant-of-the-LORD I’m sorry. I don’t speak ad hominem. Try focusing on the strengths of your arguments. You’re affirming the consequent with that statement. The names and titles of a single entity are not necessarily interchangeable across all situations in all possible worlds. Think about it. Names and titles are temporally and situationally dependent. Even my own names and titles wouldn’t be interchangeable throughout the story of my life. That’d be absurd. How much more absurd is it to apply this fallacious reasoning to pre-existent divinity? And, no, just because some names and titles are interchangeable in a written account of single entity doesn't mean they must all be interchangeable. Christ = Messiah = Jesus. ALL interchangable. According to you folks - "Jesus" = "Holy Spirit". IF that WERE the case - using EITHER in a verse would be both proper and allowable. It FAILS - just like the doctrine ITSELF FAILS. Funny that ALL of these are interchangeable. YOUR "Jesus - Holy Spirit" IS NOT. "the Son OF God" 47 times in the NT "Son of the most High God" Mark 5:7 "Son of the Highest" Luke 1:32 "Son of the Father" 2 John 1:3 "Son of the Living God" Matthew 16:16 & John 6:69 "the Christ" Matthew 16:16 & John 6:69 "the Messiah" Daniel 9:25 "the Lamb OF God" John 1:29 "Holy One OF God" Mark 1:24 "advocate with the Father" John 2:1 "a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec" Hebrews 5:6 "one mediator between God and men" 1 Timothy 2:5 "the faithful witness" 1 Revelation 4 "the first begotten of the dead" 1 Revelation 4 "the prince of the kings of the earth" 1 Revelation 4 Christ and Messiah are titles used in relation to the incarnation. Jesus is the earthly name given to the incarnate Word. I also recognize Jesus as the lamb, shepherd, gate, and bridegroom. It is not a necessary condition these titles be interchangeable in every Biblical context for them to be known titles of Christ. Titles and names have their place in human experience and language. These constraints and limits are not applicable to transcendent divinity. It is not the task of men to define God. The Bible is a history of God’s relation to man told in the perspective of man. Therefore, it is not accurate to say that God changes throughout the texts, but that the theophany, the human experience of God, changes. Last Edited by Bee Free on 05/14/2020 02:31 PM |
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| Photine User ID: 75525114 Canada05/14/2020 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude Jesus just said he came down from heaven. Ya fuckin' liar... Coming down from heaven = sent 1 person was sent from God, Jesus God did not send "the third entity" to impregnate Mary with Jesus. JESUS came down /was sent. There IS NO "THIRD ENTITY". So Jesus just magically came down to earth THROUGH Mary? He's the Holy Spirit. |
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| Photine User ID: 75525114 Canada05/14/2020 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where does Jesus state that "I created" or "I am the Creator"? He doesn't. John 1:3 God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him. 1 Cor 8:6b Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created |
| Photine User ID: 75525114 Canada05/14/2020 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where does Jesus state that "I created" or "I am the Creator"? He doesn't. John 1:3 God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him. 1 Cor 8:6b Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created Heb 1:2 through the Son he created the universe |
| Photine User ID: 75525114 Canada05/14/2020 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78913898 Where does Jesus state that "I created" or "I am the Creator"? He doesn't. John 1:3 God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him. 1 Cor 8:6b Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created Heb 1:2 through the Son he created the universe Psalm 104:30 When you send your Spirit, they are created |
| Photine User ID: 75525114 Canada05/14/2020 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Photine 75525114 John 1:3 God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him. 1 Cor 8:6b Jesus Christ, through whom all things were created Heb 1:2 through the Son he created the universe Psalm 104:30 When you send your Spirit, they are created Gen 1:2 the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters. |
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| Bee Free
User ID: 77543161 United States05/14/2020 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dude Jesus just said he came down from heaven. Ya fuckin' liar... Coming down from heaven = sent 1 person was sent from God, Jesus God did not send "the third entity" to impregnate Mary with Jesus. JESUS came down /was sent. There IS NO "THIRD ENTITY". So Jesus just magically came down to earth THROUGH Mary? He's the Holy Spirit. Word. The Spirit is the express will of God in action. His coming down from heaven is equivalent to His being sent from heaven. Jesus tells us He is the only one to have come from heaven (John 3:13). The incarnate Spirit formed within Mary. No mythic semen or fertilization was involved or even implied. Our God is not Zeus. And our savior is not a demigod. |
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