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Acuse others of what you are doing: Dem Rep. Lofgren on Impeachment: Looks Like Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell ‘Plan to Rig the Trial’

 
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Lofgren said on MSNBC’s “Kasie DC” that based on what she is hearing, Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) “plan to rig the trial” to “protect” President Donald Trump, which she warned would be a “serious problem for the country.”

“Some of the things I’m hearing from [Graham and McConnell], looks like they plan to rig the trial,” Lofgren claimed. “That’s a serious problem for the country, but I think it’s a problem for Trump as well. President Trump is hoping to be exonerated. He will not be exonerated if everyone knows he rigged the trial.”


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So on the opposite side of this coin if you rigged the trial against him he is exonerated already? Works for me!!!

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Typical liberal
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Democrats are despicable.
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Assuming she wasn't cheated into office - why don't people stop and think to themselves hmm, that morbidly obese hogzilla has serious personal problems let's let her go solve them and vote for somebody without the mental problems.
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Graham and McConnell are jurors who will be voting at the conclusion of the Senate trial.

If they plan to rig the trial, then that is jury tampering.

According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath before the Senate trial:

"I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Now ask yourself: are they still planning to swear that oath, so help them God?
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They will continue with the pretend stuff until this Durham shit hits the fan. They will attack Barr and Durham but the criminal case will be too solid, no one will be able to pretend. That is when we are at great risk for a false flag of monumental proportions. I can tell you this though, it won't be the aliens coming to rescue their asses coffeecupchuckle
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Lofgren said on MSNBC’s “Kasie DC” that based on what she is hearing, Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) “plan to rig the trial” to “protect” President Donald Trump, which she warned would be a “serious problem for the country.”

“Some of the things I’m hearing from [Graham and McConnell], looks like they plan to rig the trial,” Lofgren claimed. “That’s a serious problem for the country, but I think it’s a problem for Trump as well. President Trump is hoping to be exonerated. He will not be exonerated if everyone knows he rigged the trial.”


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So on the opposite side of this coin if you rigged the trial against him he is exonerated already? Works for me!!!
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No rigging involved. They are simply going to use some procedures to their advantage. Nothing wrong with that, if that is the way they choose to proceed.
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Oh that’s rich!
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Graham and McConnell are jurors who will be voting at the conclusion of the Senate trial.

If they plan to rig the trial, then that is jury tampering.

According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath before the Senate trial:

"I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Now ask yourself: are they still planning to swear that oath, so help them God?
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Where is your concern for Schiff's bullshit?

Go ahead, link to your post of concern about how he lied to congress and the nation about Trump's words on that phone call. We're waiting hypocrite.
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Boo fricken hoo. Schiff and Nadler changed and/or ran roughshod over the 'rules' of their hearings, blocking witnesses, hiding whistle blowers, shutting down valid debate, and in some cases just making shit up. Now the House will have to cry in their cornflakes when the Senate does the same thing.
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Graham and McConnell are jurors who will be voting at the conclusion of the Senate trial.

If they plan to rig the trial, then that is jury tampering.

According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath before the Senate trial:

"I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Now ask yourself: are they still planning to swear that oath, so help them God?
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So, let me guess.....
You think the inquiry was "impartial"?
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What a blatant insult to Americans this entire process is partisan Congress GOP were not allowed witness's, not allowed access to the basement proceedings. We get to the senate side and first crack out of the box Upchuck ShoeMrrrrrr demands four witness's, what a crock.

I have a feeling the demo/rats will lose big time on this issue, then when the Durham report comes out they will have dug their grave all that will be left is burying the party 6 feet under. The left has eaten itself and its a joy to behold!
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More trials? More back and forth for hours about absolute bullshit?

Good luck with that

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Lots of words everywhere but not a clue on how they think these two would rig the trial
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Graham and McConnell are jurors who will be voting at the conclusion of the Senate trial.

If they plan to rig the trial, then that is jury tampering.

According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath before the Senate trial:

"I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Now ask yourself: are they still planning to swear that oath, so help them God?
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You Liberals are soulless demons.

You post something like that after fully supporting the complete travesty that is going on in the house.

How the hell has half our country gone completely sodom and gamorah levels of insane in such a short period of time?
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Boo fricken hoo. Schiff and Nadler changed and/or ran roughshod over the 'rules' of their hearings, blocking witnesses, hiding whistle blowers, shutting down valid debate, and in some cases just making shit up. Now the House will have to cry in their cornflakes when the Senate does the same thing.
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Says who.. msnbc?

Dont just believe the demonic accusations made by these people. there is no evidence at all that the senate will do anything of the sort.
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Lofgren said on MSNBC’s “Kasie DC” that based on what she is hearing, Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) “plan to rig the trial” to “protect” President Donald Trump, which she warned would be a “serious problem for the country.”

“Some of the things I’m hearing from [Graham and McConnell], looks like they plan to rig the trial,” Lofgren claimed. “That’s a serious problem for the country, but I think it’s a problem for Trump as well. President Trump is hoping to be exonerated. He will not be exonerated if everyone knows he rigged the trial.”


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So on the opposite side of this coin if you rigged the trial against him he is exonerated already? Works for me!!!
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Mconell and Graham are poisonous vipers and Trump would do well to be very leary of them. By stating their intentions before this shitshow does Trump no favors whatsoever.
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This is all part of the 4 and twenty RINOS scheme.

1. Get 4 RINOS to vote with the KRATS to take control of the rules and thus the trial.
2. This puts Turtle in his natural habitat...the minority.
3. MEDIA including FUX mounts all out war campaing to lay covering fire for 20 RINOS TO DEFECT and remove. This they think will solve all their 'problems'. It will not. The Cat is out of the bag. It will result in Civil War again. Within and between the states, counties, and cities.
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Graham and McConnell are jurors who will be voting at the conclusion of the Senate trial.

If they plan to rig the trial, then that is jury tampering.

According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath before the Senate trial:

"I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Now ask yourself: are they still planning to swear that oath, so help them God?
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Bwahaha! It is not a violation because the House had a fraud kangaroo court.

It is all just a joke!
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What a blatant insult to Americans this entire process is partisan Congress GOP were not allowed witness's, not allowed access to the basement proceedings. We get to the senate side and first crack out of the box Upchuck ShoeMrrrrrr demands four witness's, what a crock.

I have a feeling the demo/rats will lose big time on this issue, then when the Durham report comes out they will have dug their grave all that will be left is burying the party 6 feet under. The left has eaten itself and its a joy to behold!
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I vote to replace impeachment with a steel cage death match between Biden and Trump.
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Politicians are making horrible miscalcuation of the current mood. It will catch them by complete surprise.
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Graham and McConnell are jurors who will be voting at the conclusion of the Senate trial.

If they plan to rig the trial, then that is jury tampering.

According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath before the Senate trial:

"I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Now ask yourself: are they still planning to swear that oath, so help them God?
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Concerning Oaths of Office, the SCOTUS already ruled they were in violation of the 1st Amendment and were a form of compelled speech. Oaths in the Constitution are likewise covered by this ruling as they came before the passage of the 1st Amendment.
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More like jury nullification. thumbsthumbs

What is jury nullification?

Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a verdict of "Not Guilty" despite its belief that the defendant is guilty of the violation charged. The jury in effect nullifies a law that it believes is either immoral or wrongly applied to the defendant whose fate they are charged with deciding.

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If it's as good a 'rigging' as the House democrats pulled off it shouldn't be an issue at all. Except the fact is this type of 'rigging' will be backed up with hard irrefutable evidence as we get to watch the donkey's asses go under.
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Graham and McConnell are jurors who will be voting at the conclusion of the Senate trial.

If they plan to rig the trial, then that is jury tampering.

According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath before the Senate trial:

"I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Now ask yourself: are they still planning to swear that oath, so help them God?
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You mean like the democraps rigged their impeachment. Nadler didn't ask any "witnesses" to raise their hands and swear to tell the truth. Where's the oath to truth that the democraps had them take?

There was no oath, so all the demo witnesses were lying through their clenched teeth.

And you, writer, are a tool. And a stupid one who isn't following the truth or care because your mind is riddled with impeachment holes. Sorry to be you.
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If it's as good a 'rigging' as the House democrats pulled off it shouldn't be an issue at all. Except the fact is this type of 'rigging' will be backed up with hard irrefutable evidence as we get to watch the donkey's asses go under.
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Lofgren said on MSNBC’s “Kasie DC” that based on what she is hearing, Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) “plan to rig the trial” to “protect” President Donald Trump, which she warned would be a “serious problem for the country.”

“Some of the things I’m hearing from [Graham and McConnell], looks like they plan to rig the trial,” Lofgren claimed. “That’s a serious problem for the country, but I think it’s a problem for Trump as well. President Trump is hoping to be exonerated. He will not be exonerated if everyone knows he rigged the trial.”


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So on the opposite side of this coin if you rigged the trial against him he is exonerated already? Works for me!!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot

It works for me too, false evidence, tampered documentation by the FBI, outright lies about the credibility of witnesses.

Personally I hope Mcconnell moves to acquit the President in his opening words and asks for a second.

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Graham and McConnell are jurors who will be voting at the conclusion of the Senate trial.

If they plan to rig the trial, then that is jury tampering.

According to Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials, all senators must make the following oath before the Senate trial:

"I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [the person being impeached], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

Now ask yourself: are they still planning to swear that oath, so help them God?
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The Impeachment proceedings in the House are arguably invalid.

Further - the "Obstruction" charge is nonsense. They charged the president for legal activities. He did not obstruct.

Since they don't charge a specific crime, under the law, Trump probably (and might) have the courts throw it out. Might not reach the Senate.

The Senate observed the partisan train wreck that was impeachment in House and they may not feel the need to dignify it.

The presiding officer may only allow the House to call one witness - hearsay is illegal in a criminal proceeding.

Sondland is the only that can testify. Senators defending Trump can object to all the other testimony.

There is no chance the House met the legal standard "beyond reasonable doubt".

They vote to acquit, they will then vote to "exonerate" (declare innocent). And they are done.

The exonerate vote - which is being discussed in response to House statements about repeated impeachment - would prevent these charges from ever being produced again.

The Senate will have spoken and that is that.

But keep dreaming.
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Lofgren said on MSNBC’s “Kasie DC” that based on what she is hearing, Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) “plan to rig the trial” to “protect” President Donald Trump, which she warned would be a “serious problem for the country.”

“Some of the things I’m hearing from [Graham and McConnell], looks like they plan to rig the trial,” Lofgren claimed. “That’s a serious problem for the country, but I think it’s a problem for Trump as well. President Trump is hoping to be exonerated. He will not be exonerated if everyone knows he rigged the trial.”


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So on the opposite side of this coin if you rigged the trial against him he is exonerated already? Works for me!!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot

It works for me too, false evidence, tampered documentation by the FBI, outright lies about the credibility of witnesses.

Personally I hope Mcconnell moves to acquit the President in his opening words and asks for a second.

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Well... I believe that they have to let the House present its case.

However - with no crime and weak evidence - they could ask the presiding judge to dismiss on various grounds - no crime - insufficient evidence that doesn't meet the burden of proof etc.

And that is it.

If the presiding judge feels it is a partisan hack job he could just toss it.
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Because the process has been rigged from the start by Democrats, it was never valid and there is nothing for McConnell to "rig".





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