Had an interesting talk with a cyber CIA trainee | |
Ordovician
User ID: 78256349 Japan 12/16/2019 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear a lot of them get “turned” or “redpilled” by the sites they are supposed to be disrupting... |
Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States 12/16/2019 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After WWII there were a series of experiments done based on the US rejecting the "I was only following orders" mantra of many of the war criminals. The results showed that a very large majority of subjects were willing to inflict what they believed to be fatal degrees of electrical shock when "ordered" to by a guy in a white lab coat holding a clipboard and acting in what you'd call a commanding manner. The fact that this continues? It's not a surprise, it's a sad aspect of many people's "human nature". Those raised to obey, obey. Those raised to defer to authority defer. In the case of cyber work? There's a million ways for these employees to rationalize or minimize the impact of their work to a degree that allows them to head back to work tomorrow. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079668 United States 12/16/2019 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After WWII there were a series of experiments done based on the US rejecting the "I was only following orders" mantra of many of the war criminals. Quoting: Larry D. Croc The results showed that a very large majority of subjects were willing to inflict what they believed to be fatal degrees of electrical shock when "ordered" to by a guy in a white lab coat holding a clipboard and acting in what you'd call a commanding manner. The fact that this continues? It's not a surprise, it's a sad aspect of many people's "human nature". Those raised to obey, obey. Those raised to defer to authority defer. In the case of cyber work? There's a million ways for these employees to rationalize or minimize the impact of their work to a degree that allows them to head back to work tomorrow. I take it you are able to "rationalize" your work here at GLP in the same manner? |
Crypto-Tard
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TlvmmCpoft
(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/16/2019 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah. It has. Much of what I noticed in the conversation could be applied to a majority of people in the country, not just those being paid to act that way. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
TlvmmCpoft
(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/16/2019 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what terrifies me the most is that they do feel so much like powerless children. A country can't be run by one adult. You need many. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States 12/16/2019 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After WWII there were a series of experiments done based on the US rejecting the "I was only following orders" mantra of many of the war criminals. Quoting: Larry D. Croc The results showed that a very large majority of subjects were willing to inflict what they believed to be fatal degrees of electrical shock when "ordered" to by a guy in a white lab coat holding a clipboard and acting in what you'd call a commanding manner. The fact that this continues? It's not a surprise, it's a sad aspect of many people's "human nature". Those raised to obey, obey. Those raised to defer to authority defer. In the case of cyber work? There's a million ways for these employees to rationalize or minimize the impact of their work to a degree that allows them to head back to work tomorrow. I take it you are able to "rationalize" your work here at GLP in the same manner? You're a self-pitying whiner who enjoys playing the "victim" at every opportunity. Everything wrong with your life, which is a lot, is someone else's fault. I have no patience with people who behave in that manner. I'd much appreciate you not attempting to derail a useful thread such as this one with your nonsense. Go elsewhere if you're in need of a pity fix, weakling. And perhaps ask Santa for a spine for Christmas, you can use one. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
Don Draper from Nantucket
User ID: 57553864 United States 12/16/2019 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the Rolling Stones said it best.... Whats confusing you is the nature of my game! Last Edited by Don Of N*******t on 12/16/2019 12:16 PM PLATA BITCHEZZZZZZ UPGRADE UNAVAILABLE The Rolling Stones said it best... "What's confusing you is the nature of my game" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42079668 United States 12/16/2019 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After WWII there were a series of experiments done based on the US rejecting the "I was only following orders" mantra of many of the war criminals. Quoting: Larry D. Croc The results showed that a very large majority of subjects were willing to inflict what they believed to be fatal degrees of electrical shock when "ordered" to by a guy in a white lab coat holding a clipboard and acting in what you'd call a commanding manner. The fact that this continues? It's not a surprise, it's a sad aspect of many people's "human nature". Those raised to obey, obey. Those raised to defer to authority defer. In the case of cyber work? There's a million ways for these employees to rationalize or minimize the impact of their work to a degree that allows them to head back to work tomorrow. I take it you are able to "rationalize" your work here at GLP in the same manner? You're a self-pitying whiner who enjoys playing the "victim" at every opportunity. Everything wrong with your life, which is a lot, is someone else's fault. I have no patience with people who behave in that manner. I'd much appreciate you not attempting to derail a useful thread such as this one with your nonsense. Go elsewhere if you're in need of a pity fix, weakling. And perhaps ask Santa for a spine for Christmas, you can use one. At least you are getting paid to be here. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77316105 United States 12/16/2019 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what op described is 100% exactly what is going on in china usa in near final stages of full on overt communism brutality along with 24/7 monitoring, social credit, and straight up genocide pogroms trump ain't gonna save our asses, he's part of the script |
TlvmmCpoft
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SyncAsFunk
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CUB4DK
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TlvmmCpoft
(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/16/2019 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think what terrifies me the most is that they do feel so much like powerless children. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft A country can't be run by one adult. You need many. Define Adult.?? What I see is Morons in positions of control I'm seeing morons all the way down the line, morons for as far as the eye can see. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
TlvmmCpoft
(OP) User ID: 77347043 Poland 12/16/2019 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of it's simply the petty pursuit of power (move up, boss more people, control more stuff) and wealth (move up, get bigger paycheck). Many of them would sell out their mother for a bigger paycheck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78128618 Yeah. Sadly. No capacity to see the big picture. I don't know what lies they told you, but I can promise they were lies. There's a fine line between training, trauma, and torture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67506367 United States 12/16/2019 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And it got me thinking. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft The "I'm just doing what I'm told" and "This is just a paycheck" thing is prolific. (to be fair, cyber doesn't pay amazingly) So is a sense that everything is out of their control, despite their being an actual living and breathing part of the control system. And there is a huge amount of fear of wrong think or taking in too much information. They're supposed to process it, not absorb it. They treat intel like a bomb. It boils down to even if they downright know what they are doing is contributing to the direct demise and deaths of American citizens, of which they are one, they feel like they still need to do it because that is what they are being told to do. And they follow authority. The nihilism is overwhelming, and you can see some of the "the world is dying, its too late to do anything, we're helpless so why bother" environmental doctrine from school coloring their every decision. I get the feeling they would follow authority directly to their own deaths, as long as they could pretend it wasn't happening on the way there. They've been placed in a position under something that has a lot of power (government) and feel powerless, even though they are supposed to be adults. They are ball-less. So, what we end up with is a plethora of adult children doing the bidding of a very few who do not have their, or your, best interests in mind. All I have to say is, there are no discernible heroes in that mess. How have we gotten to a point where we have adults, in positions of responsibility, who have irreversibly cowed down to their masters rather than serving their country? SOMEBODY has to do the dirty work for the government. SOMEBODY has to be the assassin, the spy, the blackmail recorder of politicians' pedophile acts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67506367 United States 12/16/2019 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And it got me thinking. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft The "I'm just doing what I'm told" and "This is just a paycheck" thing is prolific. (to be fair, cyber doesn't pay amazingly) So is a sense that everything is out of their control, despite their being an actual living and breathing part of the control system. And there is a huge amount of fear of wrong think or taking in too much information. They're supposed to process it, not absorb it. They treat intel like a bomb. It boils down to even if they downright know what they are doing is contributing to the direct demise and deaths of American citizens, of which they are one, they feel like they still need to do it because that is what they are being told to do. And they follow authority. The nihilism is overwhelming, and you can see some of the "the world is dying, its too late to do anything, we're helpless so why bother" environmental doctrine from school coloring their every decision. I get the feeling they would follow authority directly to their own deaths, as long as they could pretend it wasn't happening on the way there. They've been placed in a position under something that has a lot of power (government) and feel powerless, even though they are supposed to be adults. They are ball-less. So, what we end up with is a plethora of adult children doing the bidding of a very few who do not have their, or your, best interests in mind. All I have to say is, there are no discernible heroes in that mess. How have we gotten to a point where we have adults, in positions of responsibility, who have irreversibly cowed down to their masters rather than serving their country? OBEY YOUR MASTER!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77627783 Estonia 12/16/2019 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hear a lot of them get “turned” or “redpilled” by the sites they are supposed to be disrupting... Quoting: Ordovician Yeah! And not just this... they are becoming a security risk for the USG and the allies (which is us!) I am the AnOmlY number Won by the way lol Most of you CIA shills didn't pass the test... [x] watchlist If I got a penny for every clown turning out to be a turd I'd be a billionaire... Its time to fix America because America sure can't and the rest of us depend on THE SHIT YOU MADE. I live eternally to rub this in your face by many examples....only because they wanted to make me an example. I can heal them for a fee though.... I should be teaching this shit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77627783 Estonia 12/16/2019 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then revoke clearances of everyone who was near me in the past 15 years and see what theyll do... and clean my records and put "neutralized" there. Now its time to fix your own organizations and maybe vet vet everyone again... from scratch, using a secondary vetting list. Once everyone is vetted for, activate it. We need a lot of kids to check all of you... + everyone on a number of toxic sites will be put on a future quarantine list. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77627783 Estonia 12/16/2019 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of it's simply the petty pursuit of power (move up, boss more people, control more stuff) and wealth (move up, get bigger paycheck). Many of them would sell out their mother for a bigger paycheck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78128618 Sadly that is true I am actually on your frigging planet to put the S back in NSA |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76984449 United States 12/16/2019 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what op described is 100% exactly what is going on in china Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77316105 usa in near final stages of full on overt communism brutality along with 24/7 monitoring, social credit, and straight up genocide pogroms trump ain't gonna save our asses, he's part of the script Life is really sucking so they might as well just get it done and over with. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76461169 United States 12/16/2019 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And it got me thinking. Quoting: TlvmmCpoft The "I'm just doing what I'm told" and "This is just a paycheck" thing is prolific. (to be fair, cyber doesn't pay amazingly) So is a sense that everything is out of their control, despite their being an actual living and breathing part of the control system. And there is a huge amount of fear of wrong think or taking in too much information. They're supposed to process it, not absorb it. They treat intel like a bomb. It boils down to even if they downright know what they are doing is contributing to the direct demise and deaths of American citizens, of which they are one, they feel like they still need to do it because that is what they are being told to do. And they follow authority. The nihilism is overwhelming, and you can see some of the "the world is dying, its too late to do anything, we're helpless so why bother" environmental doctrine from school coloring their every decision. I get the feeling they would follow authority directly to their own deaths, as long as they could pretend it wasn't happening on the way there. They've been placed in a position under something that has a lot of power (government) and feel powerless, even though they are supposed to be adults. They are ball-less. So, what we end up with is a plethora of adult children doing the bidding of a very few who do not have their, or your, best interests in mind. All I have to say is, there are no discernible heroes in that mess. How have we gotten to a point where we have adults, in positions of responsibility, who have irreversibly cowed down to their masters rather than serving their country? That's what the American school system churns out purposely. |
MarPep
User ID: 78252643 United States 12/16/2019 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Must be similar stuff with the killer drone pilots. Not only are the flying weapons aptly named, but so are the armchair pilots. Death from 10,000 miles away doesn't seem to matter much---certainly nothing like killing one's opponent at close range. _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |