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I'm so pissed at Social Security that I could scream!

 
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Be glad you are getting anything at all - most people I have heard of that has tried that are legit disabled receive nothing.
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True.

I know an old guy, who is messed up and disabled. He has physical disabilities and a degenerative disease. His mind also is clearly not there. No one would employ the guy.

He spent years applying and jumping through hoops to meet their requirements. He had notes from doctors and psychiatrists testifying to his unfitness for any kind of work, although anyone could tell he was unfit, and they ran him around in circles, saying the notes weren't good enough and they needed to see the doctor and psychiatrist both in person at the same time in court.

Imagine a broken down lunatic of a homeless man trying to wrangle a couple of busy young professionals into court on the same day to talk to a judge.

The whole damned system is unnecessarily difficult and obstructive.

(Unless you can't even speak English, in which case, it's remarkable how fast non-native speakers can skate through the system, fill out hundreds of pages of paperwork, visit and convince all those stone-faced bureaucrats. They seem to max out all entitlements in a week, without having any idea how to fill out the back of a cereal box.
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A couple of months ago I applied for Social Security at 62.

I've been disabled most of my life but managed to work productively most of it.

As part of the process of starting SS I had to do a one hour interview on the phone. I pointed out that I had tried to apply online and the system kept putting me through the disability qualification questions......

She explained that "re-qualifying" for disability was part of the process....I told her that it felt like she was trying to find some fraud or error in my disability to take money from me...."Oh no, that's not it at all".

The man that owns this property and the old house trailer that I spent a year rebuilding quit charging me rent about 8 years ago because "I do more for him than anyone else".

Rent used to be $60 for an RV spot with hookups that I used for the first couple years. Then when I suggested I could fix the house trailer to use for storage he suggested another $40 for that, total of $100 a month. As repairs progressed I started living here. Then later he canceled my rent.

Long story short I just got a letter from SS that I earned $100 from "self employment" every month I got disability...

After 2 calls today it finally comes out that they are deducting my "rent" as income...WTF?

There never was a rent agreement for the last 9 years. This fucking bitch gov't employee is just trying to justify her fucking existence by fucking people....
Fucking Bitch.

What confuses me is that if I had been paying rent it would have been deducted from my pension.....which would have been an increase to my disability payment.

So how the hell does my helping the landowner make me liable for $100 a month? I now owe SS disability $450. Not the whole $100 a month for the 26 months I drew it but they want $17.50 per month paid back. They take $100- $65=$35 and take half of that or $17.50. You know it had to be some fucking liberal democrat that signed this bullshit into law.....
Yes I am appealing but it is such a waste of time.

Fucking Bitch interviewer at SS fucked me for $450 just to justify her worthless existence.

I'm pissed.

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 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


Sorry, but it's just going to get worse for you.

‘A national disgrace’: Trump proposes Social Security change that could end disability benefits for hundreds of thousands

“The Trump administration is attacking another vulnerable population: those who are disabled and receiving Social Security Disability benefits.”

Activists are working to raise public awareness and outrage over a little-noticed Trump administration proposal that could strip life-saving disability benefits from hundreds of thousands of people by further complicating the way the Social Security Administration determines who is eligible for payments.

The process for receiving Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is already notoriously complicated, and the Trump administration is attempting to add yet another layer of complexity that critics say is aimed at slashing people’s benefits.

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I know it is confusing....BUT I am not on disability any longer.

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But label your unruly disobedient child, children, often times, a family will label three or more, hyperactive and get a free ride for life. These are the changes than have to be made to SS.
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I see it all the time, addicts getting paid to be addicts and their drugs paid for. Parents getting paid to watch tv and get fat by collecting off all their kids SS for hyperactivity.
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Some amazing info and replies!

Thank you to all!

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And all the people that get paid by SS by acting crazy and get to keep on acting crazy rather than shape up and work a day in your life, aka get a job. Oh..... working makes me crazy, that is often an approved disorder to receive disability. I see a lot of that too.
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Shit! missed opportunities!!!!!!

Work made me crazy for DECADES!

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Shit! missed opportunities!!!!!!

Work made me crazy for DECADES!
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Well, in your case, anger management comes with the job, has been required for all the millwrights I have known and that includes my best friend and the entire crew. All died old and single but my best friend and he is in hospital now. Your job takes the entire life and family life out of the worker. You paid the price in every way and more than most into the SS system. They best not mess with ya.
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Being the one to help on a moments notice to get the boys off to the airport with clean clothes and take care of their homes here in the remote mountains, I will miss my best friend, like the rest of the crew that has passed. It is nice to meet another like you still alive.
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and for the record, they never paid me a dime for all my hard work and I did not put out. add that up LOL but we did die depending on each other as best friends, sharing tools and all the skills, experience, fun times
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I have a cousin who is on SSI or disability, I'm not sure which, he's not worked a day in his life, he's on it due to a drug addiction only ever since the young age of 25...He's 51 now. Insane!
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Many alpha fights over this 10+, but we made it through it. I stayed honest and respectable.
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I have a cousin who is on SSI or disability, I'm not sure which, he's not worked a day in his life, he's on it due to a drug addiction only ever since the young age of 25...He's 51 now. Insane!
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yep, I see it all the time too. Changes have to be made.
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Needless to say, I also stayed single by choice. You know what I mean.
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I struggle to walk and get in and out ofthe car, now have heart failure. But, I got married 8 years ago and have not worked for 6 years, so I am ineligible for SSI. Have 7 more years til SS. Had no idea all the years I worked were cancelled if I had to quit due to disability!
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Shit! missed opportunities!!!!!!

Work made me crazy for DECADES!
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Well, in your case, anger management comes with the job, has been required for all the millwrights I have known and that includes my best friend and the entire crew. All died old and single but my best friend and he is in hospital now. Your job takes the entire life and family life out of the worker. You paid the price in every way and more than most into the SS system. They best not mess with ya.
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You know, I think you are right.....we could be friends!

WTF are you on the west coast?

Come to the Ozarks before SHTF!

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I struggle to walk and get in and out ofthe car, now have heart failure. But, I got married 8 years ago and have not worked for 6 years, so I am ineligible for SSI. Have 7 more years til SS. Had no idea all the years I worked were cancelled if I had to quit due to disability!
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That is really fucked up. The system needs to change.

I bought an old Toyota pickup from a friend cheap last year.
Little 2 wheel drive. I can barely squeeze into the damn thing!

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Being the one to help on a moments notice to get the boys off to the airport with clean clothes and take care of their homes here in the remote mountains, I will miss my best friend, like the rest of the crew that has passed. It is nice to meet another like you still alive.
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Shame you are not a paid member....

You remind me of the Wife of the man who designed and produced the Plum Bob Reel.

Magnetic base, nail for concrete forms, real cool design.

I tried for YEARS to find out where to get them

Then I actually Worked with him at "Big Cajun 2"

30 day shut down.

In Baton Rouge, Louisiana, about 6 weeks after Katrina.

{ I sold about 30 of those for him at the Toyota Truck Plant, Winter of 2005-2006 I was foreman for 3 different companies over about 13 weeks }

He passed away about 6-8 years ago, I have heard.
He and wife had a place in the mountains in North West Montana, near Idaho.

That wife isn't you, is it?




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A couple of months ago I applied for Social Security at 62.

I've been disabled most of my life but managed to work productively most of it.

As part of the process of starting SS I had to do a one hour interview on the phone. I pointed out that I had tried to apply online and the system kept putting me through the disability qualification questions......

She explained that "re-qualifying" for disability was part of the process....I told her that it felt like she was trying to find some fraud or error in my disability to take money from me...."Oh no, that's not it at all".

The man that owns this property and the old house trailer that I spent a year rebuilding quit charging me rent about 8 years ago because "I do more for him than anyone else".

Rent used to be $60 for an RV spot with hookups that I used for the first couple years. Then when I suggested I could fix the house trailer to use for storage he suggested another $40 for that, total of $100 a month. As repairs progressed I started living here. Then later he canceled my rent.

Long story short I just got a letter from SS that I earned $100 from "self employment" every month I got disability...

After 2 calls today it finally comes out that they are deducting my "rent" as income...WTF?

There never was a rent agreement for the last 9 years. This fucking bitch gov't employee is just trying to justify her fucking existence by fucking people....
Fucking Bitch.

What confuses me is that if I had been paying rent it would have been deducted from my pension.....which would have been an increase to my disability payment.

So how the hell does my helping the landowner make me liable for $100 a month? I now owe SS disability $450. Not the whole $100 a month for the 26 months I drew it but they want $17.50 per month paid back. They take $100- $65=$35 and take half of that or $17.50. You know it had to be some fucking liberal democrat that signed this bullshit into law.....
Yes I am appealing but it is such a waste of time.

Fucking Bitch interviewer at SS fucked me for $450 just to justify her worthless existence.

I'm pissed.

rant
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


They'll take it from Americans to give to illegals.

I've heard countless stories over the years, similar to yours.
 Quoting: Callin


hesright I went into the SS office on Galveston island and it was like I was in mexico, wall to wall mexicans with everything printed in spanish. I sat in my truck and watched them come out and get into new expensive vehicles and drive off.
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A couple of months ago I applied for Social Security at 62.

I've been disabled most of my life but managed to work productively most of it.

As part of the process of starting SS I had to do a one hour interview on the phone. I pointed out that I had tried to apply online and the system kept putting me through the disability qualification questions......

She explained that "re-qualifying" for disability was part of the process....I told her that it felt like she was trying to find some fraud or error in my disability to take money from me...."Oh no, that's not it at all".

The man that owns this property and the old house trailer that I spent a year rebuilding quit charging me rent about 8 years ago because "I do more for him than anyone else".

Rent used to be $60 for an RV spot with hookups that I used for the first couple years. Then when I suggested I could fix the house trailer to use for storage he suggested another $40 for that, total of $100 a month. As repairs progressed I started living here. Then later he canceled my rent.

Long story short I just got a letter from SS that I earned $100 from "self employment" every month I got disability...

After 2 calls today it finally comes out that they are deducting my "rent" as income...WTF?

There never was a rent agreement for the last 9 years. This fucking bitch gov't employee is just trying to justify her fucking existence by fucking people....
Fucking Bitch.

What confuses me is that if I had been paying rent it would have been deducted from my pension.....which would have been an increase to my disability payment.

So how the hell does my helping the landowner make me liable for $100 a month? I now owe SS disability $450. Not the whole $100 a month for the 26 months I drew it but they want $17.50 per month paid back. They take $100- $65=$35 and take half of that or $17.50. You know it had to be some fucking liberal democrat that signed this bullshit into law.....
Yes I am appealing but it is such a waste of time.

Fucking Bitch interviewer at SS fucked me for $450 just to justify her worthless existence.

I'm pissed.

rant
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


How does she know you stopped paying rent, and that it was set at $100 a month??? If you TOLD her, that is a mistake you should not have made!

At your review, explain that the understanding / or your explanation was incorrect. You didn't pay rent for those weeks you fixed the place, ONLY.
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Be glad you are getting anything at all - most people I have heard of that has tried that are legit disabled receive nothing.
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If you are still in your 50’s, the EARLY age of 62 for receiving back some Social Security pay, has been pushed out to age 67 !!! What utter garbage THEFT is that?? They plan to steal our money!! Their idiot reset, One World BS & Fraud vaccinations will change everything!!
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Did you vote for Trump. ,? I saw a video where these leftist govt workers purposely screw right wings out of government benefits anyway they can
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A couple of months ago I applied for Social Security at 62.

I've been disabled most of my life but managed to work productively most of it.

As part of the process of starting SS I had to do a one hour interview on the phone. I pointed out that I had tried to apply online and the system kept putting me through the disability qualification questions......

She explained that "re-qualifying" for disability was part of the process....I told her that it felt like she was trying to find some fraud or error in my disability to take money from me...."Oh no, that's not it at all".

The man that owns this property and the old house trailer that I spent a year rebuilding quit charging me rent about 8 years ago because "I do more for him than anyone else".

Rent used to be $60 for an RV spot with hookups that I used for the first couple years. Then when I suggested I could fix the house trailer to use for storage he suggested another $40 for that, total of $100 a month. As repairs progressed I started living here. Then later he canceled my rent.

Long story short I just got a letter from SS that I earned $100 from "self employment" every month I got disability...

After 2 calls today it finally comes out that they are deducting my "rent" as income...WTF?

There never was a rent agreement for the last 9 years. This fucking bitch gov't employee is just trying to justify her fucking existence by fucking people....
Fucking Bitch.

What confuses me is that if I had been paying rent it would have been deducted from my pension.....which would have been an increase to my disability payment.

So how the hell does my helping the landowner make me liable for $100 a month? I now owe SS disability $450. Not the whole $100 a month for the 26 months I drew it but they want $17.50 per month paid back. They take $100- $65=$35 and take half of that or $17.50. You know it had to be some fucking liberal democrat that signed this bullshit into law.....
Yes I am appealing but it is such a waste of time.

Fucking Bitch interviewer at SS fucked me for $450 just to justify her worthless existence.

I'm pissed.

rant
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


How did they find out you were "living" rent free, which is not free, because you're actually doing about $100 worth of labor in the first place?
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Sounds like you screwed yourself.
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the system is BROKE.

no money in it. expect more of this.

if you're on disability in america you're in big trouble. in fact virtually everyone is anyway.
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Get a lawyer
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A couple of months ago I applied for Social Security at 62.

I've been disabled most of my life but managed to work productively most of it.

As part of the process of starting SS I had to do a one hour interview on the phone. I pointed out that I had tried to apply online and the system kept putting me through the disability qualification questions......

She explained that "re-qualifying" for disability was part of the process....I told her that it felt like she was trying to find some fraud or error in my disability to take money from me...."Oh no, that's not it at all".

The man that owns this property and the old house trailer that I spent a year rebuilding quit charging me rent about 8 years ago because "I do more for him than anyone else".

Rent used to be $60 for an RV spot with hookups that I used for the first couple years. Then when I suggested I could fix the house trailer to use for storage he suggested another $40 for that, total of $100 a month. As repairs progressed I started living here. Then later he canceled my rent.

Long story short I just got a letter from SS that I earned $100 from "self employment" every month I got disability...

After 2 calls today it finally comes out that they are deducting my "rent" as income...WTF?

There never was a rent agreement for the last 9 years. This fucking bitch gov't employee is just trying to justify her fucking existence by fucking people....
Fucking Bitch.

What confuses me is that if I had been paying rent it would have been deducted from my pension.....which would have been an increase to my disability payment.

So how the hell does my helping the landowner make me liable for $100 a month? I now owe SS disability $450. Not the whole $100 a month for the 26 months I drew it but they want $17.50 per month paid back. They take $100- $65=$35 and take half of that or $17.50. You know it had to be some fucking liberal democrat that signed this bullshit into law.....
Yes I am appealing but it is such a waste of time.

Fucking Bitch interviewer at SS fucked me for $450 just to justify her worthless existence.

I'm pissed.

rant
 Quoting: Hnry Bwmn


Contact your congressman's office.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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you're probably faking it anyway. damn liberal
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Be glad you are getting anything at all - most people I have heard of that has tried that are legit disabled receive nothing.
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This. We were told to our face that they will always denigh the first application. They told us to get a lawyer.

No joke.





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