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The Temperance Movement and Prohibition Was Pushed For By Leftists and Fabian Socialists

 
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This is yet another failure of the left and their policies that they revise history in order to lay at the feet of their political opponents in order to keep their scams going in this day and age. That's right, temperance and prohibition of alcohol was a leftist cause promoted and pushed onto American society by freedom hating leftists, in this case wrapping themselves up in the cloak of Christianity in order to push their socialist tendencies, not by freedom loving constitutional conservatives, as the new-left would now have you believe.

Address Before The Second Biennial Convention of the World's Woman's Christian Temperance Union - Oct. 1893

"Beloved Comrades of the White Ribbon Army...

The reiteration of my belief, concerning the importance of influencing public sentiment through the press, must still be borne as patiently as possible by my associates. I find that in England this immeasurably important work is reduced to a system much more complete than with us. For example, I recently became a member of a reform association, paid in my membership fee, and received soon after a letter that set me thinking. I said to myself, "Where have my wits been all these years that I have never helped to devise a similar weapon of war which should send its sure shot home to the head and heart of that vitally important personage-the New Member?"

The letter written to me covered four pages and at its head were these words:-"Fabian Society, established in London, 1883," followed by the names of the General Officers and the address of the Headquarters. Then in black letters came these words:-"This letter should be carefully preserved for reference."

It is needless to say that "this letter" came from the Secretary and...

Then came the following suggestive statement: "It has been found that the objects of the Society can be powerfully promoted by the participation of members in the work of other organizations which can thus often be turned in a socialist direction." And then came a list of clubs and associations in my own vicinity into which it would be well to endeavour to carry the influence of the Fabian Society. It was suggested to me that if practicable it would be well to join one or more of these societies in order to influence it from within on all the lines heretofore and hereinafter suggested. At the close of this branch of my instructions came another exhortation, as follows: "Have you asked the members of any club or society to apply for a lecture by a member of the Fabian Society or to take any of its literature?"...

It is needless to say that I rose from the perusal of this letter a gladder and a wiser woman. My own knowledge would never have borne in upon my consciousness any such extended concept of my duties and privileges as a Fabian, nor would my imagination have carried me so far; but one thing is certain,-my membership can never again sit so lightly on my shoulders as it did before I read my letter of instructions. By the laws of mind I am obliged to think a little about what I might do to help forward the great propaganda of brotherhood to which the Fabians are devoted, their weapons being: aroused and educated public opinion, the candidate, the ballot box; and I am confident that if we should prepare a letter to be printed by the National W.C.T.U. and sent by each local union to every one of its new members, we should realize a solidity, intelligence, and efficiency in our great clientele that we have never yet approached."

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It kind of reminds me of how Democrats now try to pretend it was Republicans who founded the KKK, when it was them.
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It kind of reminds me of how Democrats now try to pretend it was Republicans who founded the KKK, when it was them.
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Freemasons founded the KKK, Albert Pike, along with N'nai B'rith. Unless I am mistaken.
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It kind of reminds me of how Democrats now try to pretend it was Republicans who founded the KKK, when it was them.
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Freemasons founded the KKK, Albert Pike, along with N'nai B'rith. Unless I am mistaken.
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"Historian Eric Foner observed: "In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[64] To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks."

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"The Klan's activity infiltrated the Democratic Party's campaign for the presidential election of 1868. Prominent ex-Confederates, including Forrest, the Grand Wizard of the Klan, and South Carolina's Wade Hampton, attended as delegates at the 1868 Democratic Convention, held at Tammany Hall headquarters at 141 East 14th Street in New York City.[157] Forrest rode to the convention on a train that stopped in a small Northern town along the way, where he faced a protester who wanted to fight the "damned butcher" of Fort Pillow.[158] Former Governor of New York Horatio Seymour was nominated as the Democratic presidential candidate, while Forrest's friend, Frank Blair, Jr. was nominated as the Democratic vice presidential candidate, Seymour's running mate. [159] The Seymour-Blair Democratic ticket's campaign slogan was: "Our Ticket, Our Motto, This Is a White Man's Country; Let White Men Rule.""

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Alcohol is unhealthy for brains and other organs. It's better used as disinfectant.
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interesting.


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interesting.


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What's also interesting is that I don't think that "our bodies, our choice" means what many people, including pro-abortionists who often use it as a slogan today, think it means. I think you'd have to also put that into the socialistic context of those who engineered the term as well, and then look to how the Chinese control their population in order to truly get it. Northam's comments start to touch upon the truth about what was meant by the social engineers when they coined it.
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interesting.


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What's also interesting is that I don't think that "our bodies, our choice" means what many people, including pro-abortionists who often use it as a slogan today, think it means. I think you'd have to also put that into the socialistic context of those who engineered the term as well, and then look to how the Chinese control their population in order to truly get it. Northam's comments start to touch upon the truth about what was meant by the social engineers when they coined it.
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The early American eugenicists surely knew the meaning.
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Alcohol is unhealthy for brains and other organs. It's better used as disinfectant.
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And governments can be unhealthy for freedom and human rights, and better used to protect them, than to destroy and suppress them.
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That's bullshit. In the late 1800's virtually the entire liquor business had been taken over by jewish interests. In their quest to cut costs and make more money, they started mixing up concoctions that looked and tasted like whiskey and rum but were full of poisons like turpentine and antifreeze. They started making people sick and killing them. You didn't have to put them in a barrel for 4 years. You could sell that fake shit right away. Saving the jewish criminal the storage costs.

The temperance movement was a response to that. Prior to the jewish takeover, nobody had a problem with liquor, real liquor, that didn't even give you a hangover, much less destroy your liver.

The anit-semetic aspect of it has been hidden from us for over a hundred years to protect jewish liquor interests that are still killing people with their phony rot today. They don't want you to know the real reasons behind it, because like with every other cancer eating at the heatr of your nation, it always comes back to that shitty thieving tribe.
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Leftists always make sure there are ample liquor supplies. In the Soviet Union you couldn't buy bread, but there was always Vodka on the store shelves. Every communist knows it's easier to just down another glass and forget about how shitty they've made your life than it is to walk down to the commissar's office and drive a butcher knife into his belly button.

When have you ever heard a lib say, he didn't approve of drinking alcohol? I've never heard it.

Liquor in your country serves the same purpose. Though now they've got better stuff than that, like Oxys, space you out twice as good and kill you even quicker, produced by... the jewish Sackler family. What a surprise.
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That's bullshit. In the late 1800's virtually the entire liquor business had been taken over by jewish interests. In their quest to cut costs and make more money, they started mixing up concoctions that looked and tasted like whiskey and rum but were full of poisons like turpentine and antifreeze. They started making people sick and killing them. You didn't have to put them in a barrel for 4 years. You could sell that fake shit right away. Saving the jewish criminal the storage costs.

The temperance movement was a response to that. Prior to the jewish takeover, nobody had a problem with liquor, real liquor, that didn't even give you a hangover, much less destroy your liver.

The anit-semetic aspect of it has been hidden from us for over a hundred years to protect jewish liquor interests that are still killing people with their phony rot today. They don't want you to know the real reasons behind it, because like with every other cancer eating at the heatr of your nation, it always comes back to that shitty thieving tribe.
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No, what you are saying is bullshit, because even if it were true, then regulation and punishment of those selling impure products, as well as allowing the free market to operate as intended would have effectively solved the problem that you describe. Nope, the movement was about the elimination and prohibition of all alcohol, not just impure and poisonous products.
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Leftists always make sure there are ample liquor supplies. In the Soviet Union you couldn't buy bread, but there was always Vodka on the store shelves. Every communist knows it's easier to just down another glass and forget about how shitty they've made your life than it is to walk down to the commissar's office and drive a butcher knife into his belly button.

When have you ever heard a lib say, he didn't approve of drinking alcohol? I've never heard it.

Liquor in your country serves the same purpose. Though now they've got better stuff than that, like Oxys, space you out twice as good and kill you even quicker, produced by... the jewish Sackler family. What a surprise.
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Maybe once the takeover has been complete, but if your goal is to disrupt and to destabilize a nation, as well as to build up organized crime syndicates in order to run black budget programs that will allow you to funnel more money into organizations and groups devoted to the cause, as well as an internal secret police program to supposedly fight these newly created organized criminal organizations, then prohibition is the ticket.
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It kind of reminds me of how Democrats now try to pretend it was Republicans who founded the KKK, when it was them.
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Freemasons founded the KKK, Albert Pike, along with N'nai B'rith. Unless I am mistaken.
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"Historian Eric Foner observed: "In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[64] To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks."

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

"The Klan's activity infiltrated the Democratic Party's campaign for the presidential election of 1868. Prominent ex-Confederates, including Forrest, the Grand Wizard of the Klan, and South Carolina's Wade Hampton, attended as delegates at the 1868 Democratic Convention, held at Tammany Hall headquarters at 141 East 14th Street in New York City.[157] Forrest rode to the convention on a train that stopped in a small Northern town along the way, where he faced a protester who wanted to fight the "damned butcher" of Fort Pillow.[158] Former Governor of New York Horatio Seymour was nominated as the Democratic presidential candidate, while Forrest's friend, Frank Blair, Jr. was nominated as the Democratic vice presidential candidate, Seymour's running mate. [159] The Seymour-Blair Democratic ticket's campaign slogan was: "Our Ticket, Our Motto, This Is a White Man's Country; Let White Men Rule.""

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So... what are you trying to say? Other than a group, got involved with another. Perhaps blurring the lines between them.
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It kind of reminds me of how Democrats now try to pretend it was Republicans who founded the KKK, when it was them.
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Freemasons founded the KKK, Albert Pike, along with N'nai B'rith. Unless I am mistaken.
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"Historian Eric Foner observed: "In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[64] To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks."

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"The Klan's activity infiltrated the Democratic Party's campaign for the presidential election of 1868. Prominent ex-Confederates, including Forrest, the Grand Wizard of the Klan, and South Carolina's Wade Hampton, attended as delegates at the 1868 Democratic Convention, held at Tammany Hall headquarters at 141 East 14th Street in New York City.[157] Forrest rode to the convention on a train that stopped in a small Northern town along the way, where he faced a protester who wanted to fight the "damned butcher" of Fort Pillow.[158] Former Governor of New York Horatio Seymour was nominated as the Democratic presidential candidate, while Forrest's friend, Frank Blair, Jr. was nominated as the Democratic vice presidential candidate, Seymour's running mate. [159] The Seymour-Blair Democratic ticket's campaign slogan was: "Our Ticket, Our Motto, This Is a White Man's Country; Let White Men Rule.""

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So... what are you trying to say? Other than a group, got involved with another. Perhaps blurring the lines between them.
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More like long term Democratic policy. Nice try.
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That's bullshit. In the late 1800's virtually the entire liquor business had been taken over by jewish interests. In their quest to cut costs and make more money, they started mixing up concoctions that looked and tasted like whiskey and rum but were full of poisons like turpentine and antifreeze. They started making people sick and killing them. You didn't have to put them in a barrel for 4 years. You could sell that fake shit right away. Saving the jewish criminal the storage costs.

The temperance movement was a response to that. Prior to the jewish takeover, nobody had a problem with liquor, real liquor, that didn't even give you a hangover, much less destroy your liver.

The anit-semetic aspect of it has been hidden from us for over a hundred years to protect jewish liquor interests that are still killing people with their phony rot today. They don't want you to know the real reasons behind it, because like with every other cancer eating at the heatr of your nation, it always comes back to that shitty thieving tribe.
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Shepherds lead the sheep on all sides.
There may well have been rising issues with that.
Why would you enemies waste that drive?
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Freemasons founded the KKK, Albert Pike, along with N'nai B'rith. Unless I am mistaken.
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"Historian Eric Foner observed: "In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[64] To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks."

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"The Klan's activity infiltrated the Democratic Party's campaign for the presidential election of 1868. Prominent ex-Confederates, including Forrest, the Grand Wizard of the Klan, and South Carolina's Wade Hampton, attended as delegates at the 1868 Democratic Convention, held at Tammany Hall headquarters at 141 East 14th Street in New York City.[157] Forrest rode to the convention on a train that stopped in a small Northern town along the way, where he faced a protester who wanted to fight the "damned butcher" of Fort Pillow.[158] Former Governor of New York Horatio Seymour was nominated as the Democratic presidential candidate, while Forrest's friend, Frank Blair, Jr. was nominated as the Democratic vice presidential candidate, Seymour's running mate. [159] The Seymour-Blair Democratic ticket's campaign slogan was: "Our Ticket, Our Motto, This Is a White Man's Country; Let White Men Rule.""

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So... what are you trying to say? Other than a group, got involved with another. Perhaps blurring the lines between them.
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More like long term Democratic policy. Nice try.
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Seemingly asking you to clarify yourself is 'nice try'. Ok. Fine.
Doesn't change the facts of who founded the KKK.

So, 'nice try' right back at you.
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"Historian Eric Foner observed: "In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired restoration of white supremacy. Its purposes were political, but political in the broadest sense, for it sought to affect power relations, both public and private, throughout Southern society. It aimed to reverse the interlocking changes sweeping over the South during Reconstruction: to destroy the Republican party's infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.[64] To that end they worked to curb the education, economic advancement, voting rights, and right to keep and bear arms of blacks."

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

"The Klan's activity infiltrated the Democratic Party's campaign for the presidential election of 1868. Prominent ex-Confederates, including Forrest, the Grand Wizard of the Klan, and South Carolina's Wade Hampton, attended as delegates at the 1868 Democratic Convention, held at Tammany Hall headquarters at 141 East 14th Street in New York City.[157] Forrest rode to the convention on a train that stopped in a small Northern town along the way, where he faced a protester who wanted to fight the "damned butcher" of Fort Pillow.[158] Former Governor of New York Horatio Seymour was nominated as the Democratic presidential candidate, while Forrest's friend, Frank Blair, Jr. was nominated as the Democratic vice presidential candidate, Seymour's running mate. [159] The Seymour-Blair Democratic ticket's campaign slogan was: "Our Ticket, Our Motto, This Is a White Man's Country; Let White Men Rule.""

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So... what are you trying to say? Other than a group, got involved with another. Perhaps blurring the lines between them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76273531


More like long term Democratic policy. Nice try.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


Seemingly asking you to clarify yourself is 'nice try'. Ok. Fine.
Doesn't change the facts of who founded the KKK.

So, 'nice try' right back at you.
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Ok. Where's your proof that Pike founded the KKK? Let's see it. Also it looks like Pike was a Democrat.
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That's bullshit. In the late 1800's virtually the entire liquor business had been taken over by jewish interests. In their quest to cut costs and make more money, they started mixing up concoctions that looked and tasted like whiskey and rum but were full of poisons like turpentine and antifreeze. They started making people sick and killing them. You didn't have to put them in a barrel for 4 years. You could sell that fake shit right away. Saving the jewish criminal the storage costs.

The temperance movement was a response to that. Prior to the jewish takeover, nobody had a problem with liquor, real liquor, that didn't even give you a hangover, much less destroy your liver.

The anit-semetic aspect of it has been hidden from us for over a hundred years to protect jewish liquor interests that are still killing people with their phony rot today. They don't want you to know the real reasons behind it, because like with every other cancer eating at the heatr of your nation, it always comes back to that shitty thieving tribe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78073861


No, what you are saying is bullshit, because even if it were true, then regulation and punishment of those selling impure products, as well as allowing the free market to operate as intended would have effectively solved the problem that you describe. Nope, the movement was about the elimination and prohibition of all alcohol, not just impure and poisonous products.
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You have to understand, the American is a knee jerk idiot, always has been. He's constantly throwing out the baby with the bath water. Yup, the temperance people could have demanded the business be cleaned up and restored to sanity. But that isn't the knee jerk idiot American way, and it still isn't today. One guy uses a racial slur on facebook, next thing you know they're kicking people off calling a stock market crash, "Black Monday."

I'm just telling you, It didn't come from leftists. Leftists have always wanted you drunk and stupid and high on drugs. Looking in another direction while they screw you in the ass. A sober man is dangerous to them.
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Thought it was to prevent alcohol being use to flue cars instead of gas,
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That's bullshit. In the late 1800's virtually the entire liquor business had been taken over by jewish interests. In their quest to cut costs and make more money, they started mixing up concoctions that looked and tasted like whiskey and rum but were full of poisons like turpentine and antifreeze. They started making people sick and killing them. You didn't have to put them in a barrel for 4 years. You could sell that fake shit right away. Saving the jewish criminal the storage costs.

The temperance movement was a response to that. Prior to the jewish takeover, nobody had a problem with liquor, real liquor, that didn't even give you a hangover, much less destroy your liver.

The anit-semetic aspect of it has been hidden from us for over a hundred years to protect jewish liquor interests that are still killing people with their phony rot today. They don't want you to know the real reasons behind it, because like with every other cancer eating at the heatr of your nation, it always comes back to that shitty thieving tribe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78073861


No, what you are saying is bullshit, because even if it were true, then regulation and punishment of those selling impure products, as well as allowing the free market to operate as intended would have effectively solved the problem that you describe. Nope, the movement was about the elimination and prohibition of all alcohol, not just impure and poisonous products.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


You have to understand, the American is a knee jerk idiot, always has been. He's constantly throwing out the baby with the bath water. Yup, the temperance people could have demanded the business be cleaned up and restored to sanity. But that isn't the knee jerk idiot American way, and it still isn't today. One guy uses a racial slur on facebook, next thing you know they're kicking people off calling a stock market crash, "Black Monday."

I'm just telling you, It didn't come from leftists. Leftists have always wanted you drunk and stupid and high on drugs. Looking in another direction while they screw you in the ass. A sober man is dangerous to them.
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"When Susan Anthony, at eighty, went to hear Eugene Debs speak (twenty-five years before, he had gone to hear her speak, and they had not met since then), they clasped hands warmly, then had a brief exchange. She said, laughing: "Give us suffrage, and we'll give you socialism," Debs replied: "Give us socialism and we'll give you suffrage.""

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"Anthony struggled to keep the paper [The Revolution] afloat, but without constant new infusions of cash from Train she couldn't make ends meet. Half of her potential subscribers had shunned her. The income from ads for sewing machines, life insurance and (ironically) corsets wasn't enough, either. The Revolution was sold to new proprietors and eventually folded completely.

“It did amazing things while it was going on,” says Gordon. “They're meeting with people who were in the First International with Karl Marx. They are in touch with white and black reconstruction people in the south. . . . They have a British correspondent. There's letters coming in from Paris. If the money had come in, could they have kept this up? What would have happened?”"

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Thought it was to prevent alcohol being use to flue cars instead of gas,
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Sounds like propaganda put out by the new "internationalists" to deflect attention from the communist connection, you know, their usual modus operandi, blame capitalism for what they themselves did. They were using Alinsky tactics before Alinsky.
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Thought it was to prevent alcohol being use to flue cars instead of gas,
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But really how many American oil tycoons were really leftists and were tied at the hip with the banksters who funded the Russian Revolution? There still may be some truth in the charge, even if it were put out there as a limited hangout and to deflect blame from hitting the leftists responsible.
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Re: The Temperance Movement and Prohibition Was Pushed For By Leftists and Fabian Socialists
LOL at a time when Liberals PRETENDED to HAVE MORALS. tounge
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12/17/2019 05:14 PM
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"Prohibition as introduced in the Russian Empire in 1914 permitted the sale of hard liquor only in restaurants...Prohibition continued through the turmoil of the Russian Revolution of 1917 and the Russian Civil War, into the period of Soviet Russia and the Soviet Union until 1925."

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"What role did alcohol play in tsarist coups? Was Nicholas II's ill-fated prohibition a catalyst for the Bolshevik Revolution?"

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Were the leftists attempting to use American Prohibition to seed similar thoughts of communist revolution in America?
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LOL at a time when Liberals PRETENDED to HAVE MORALS. tounge
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I am not so sure that they were pretending to have morals. More likely, the adherents of Marxism saw alcohol as a impediment to revolutionary action, as an instrument that the upper class was using to suppress revolutionary organization, and wanted to remove it as an impediment to their global movements, while using the chaos that such removals would cause in order to try foment the action needed for their revolutions in areas that they were targeting.
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Prohibition in the United States in the early 20th Century was to the building of the surveillance state at that time what September 11th was to America for the building of a surveillance state in the early 21st century.
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12/17/2019 05:28 PM
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Re: The Temperance Movement and Prohibition Was Pushed For By Leftists and Fabian Socialists
I am not so sure that you can understand the FISA Abuse Scandal without understanding prohibition.
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12/19/2019 03:22 PM
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So... what are you trying to say? Other than a group, got involved with another. Perhaps blurring the lines between them.
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More like long term Democratic policy. Nice try.
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Seemingly asking you to clarify yourself is 'nice try'. Ok. Fine.
Doesn't change the facts of who founded the KKK.

So, 'nice try' right back at you.
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Ok. Where's your proof that Pike founded the KKK? Let's see it. Also it looks like Pike was a Democrat.
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Mm works that I could at one time more readily find, I cannot any more.

Very well, I will concede that I cannot substantiate that he founded them.

Good hunting, then I guess.
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More like long term Democratic policy. Nice try.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


Seemingly asking you to clarify yourself is 'nice try'. Ok. Fine.
Doesn't change the facts of who founded the KKK.

So, 'nice try' right back at you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76273531


Ok. Where's your proof that Pike founded the KKK? Let's see it. Also it looks like Pike was a Democrat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74628864


Mm works that I could at one time more readily find, I cannot any more.

Very well, I will concede that I cannot substantiate that he founded them.

Good hunting, then I guess.
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It is interesting, because I seem to remember being able to find sources on that before as well. I am not saying you are wrong. It does look like he was affiliated with the Democrats, and he was definitely a member of the KKK. Definitely evil.
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Re: The Temperance Movement and Prohibition Was Pushed For By Leftists and Fabian Socialists
I keep trying to post links proving that these Temperance Movement Woman's Groups were also eugenicists, but the posts do not take, for some odd reason.





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