Bold Prediction: Nancy Pelosi will never allow a senate trial of President Trump to happen. | |
Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States 12/20/2019 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well thought out, OP. My remaining question is whether McConnell has the means to force the situation in some way to effectively remove the sword of Damocles during the first few months of 2020. "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
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User ID: 75950402 United States 12/20/2019 08:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well thought out, OP. Quoting: Larry D. Croc My remaining question is whether McConnell has the means to force the situation in some way to effectively remove the sword of Damocles during the first few months of 2020. I know I shouldn’t be but I’m astounded by their hypocrisy They are demanding a fair trial after how they conducted theirs? Jeezuz they have some gall Betting she won’t release the articles until they have a majority in the senate, according to many she can hold on to them as long as she wishes, I hope that’s not true . Last Edited by ~kpm~ on 12/20/2019 08:07 AM ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78107266 United States 12/20/2019 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well thought out, OP. Quoting: Larry D. Croc My remaining question is whether McConnell has the means to force the situation in some way to effectively remove the sword of Damocles during the first few months of 2020. That depends on how President Trump tells McConnell he wants to proceed. Pelosi herself can now be charged with: 1) Obstruction of Congress; for failing to send the Articles to the senate. 2) abuse of power; for delaying the process indefinitely. I would even suggest that Schiff could as well be charged as well for those same reasons 1) Obstruction of Congress; for refusing to allow the minority a day to call their desired witnesses and hear testimony 2) abuse of power; for using the phone records of a sitting member of congress in his report It's almost as if they want to be tarred and feathered for what they have done. |
ScrumpTheTexan
Forum Administrator 12/20/2019 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can’t risk it... far too many scams & crimes would be exposed. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 75950402 United States 12/20/2019 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well thought out, OP. Quoting: Larry D. Croc My remaining question is whether McConnell has the means to force the situation in some way to effectively remove the sword of Damocles during the first few months of 2020. That depends on how President Trump tells McConnell he wants to proceed. Pelosi herself can now be charged with: 1) Obstruction of Congress; for failing to send the Articles to the senate. 2) abuse of power; for delaying the process indefinitely. I would even suggest that Schiff could as well be charged as well for those same reasons 1) Obstruction of Congress; for refusing to allow the minority a day to call their desired witnesses and hear testimony 2) abuse of power; for using the phone records of a sitting member of congress in his report It's almost as if they want to be tarred and feathered for what they have done. Giving them the perceived upper hand for talking points for their 2020 fools Obviously they don’t perceive Trump as a national threat to our democracy, they are proving this by holding it back It has nothing to do with a fair trial, I think you hit the nail on the head, they know damn well they can’t dictate the senate trial but they can hold on to the articles until it suits them ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76594256 Canada 12/20/2019 08:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Nancy doesn't forward the article's Then the ellection will be more like a referendum Trump can then tell ppl why he think Nancy is a criminal By exposing her and others crimes All the while promising to prosecute if re ellected It's all winning all the time now for team trump |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75919846 United States 12/20/2019 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump for OP's analysis... God Bless our President Trump, AG Barr, Bull Durham and all who support this "large system change" process and its change agents! This good work is not for pussies. And, turnaround leaders are logically not "nice" and typically not gentle or politically correct. Nice and gentle and politically correct usually assures status quo, whereas tough, brash, smart, bold and decisive gets results. Execs at the world's leading investment banks, for example, cannot (usually) get through a sentence without at least one F-word. |
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Spiritmyst
User ID: 33331813 United States 12/20/2019 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She may be holding them back until after the election to see if the Democrats win a majority in the Senate. There is no point in her sending them over as long as the Republicans are in control. Plus, the Democrats could use the situation as a major talking point during the election: "You can't vote for someone who is going to be impeached as soon as you elect him." "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves, did gyre and gimble in the wabe: all mimsey were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe." |
Epic Beard Guy
User ID: 76783046 United States 12/20/2019 08:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Her gin soaked brain is convinced that the senate will be in demonrat hands after the election. She believes (or maybe just hopes) that 2021 will find a more socialist senate that might bend to her will. That ain't gonna' happen! Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
White Gloves User ID: 75670424 United States 12/20/2019 08:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am wondering if the law permits them to delay as long as after the next election when they are stupid enough to hope they, the Democrats, will control the Senate? I realize the Democrats are going to lose in an historical smashing defeat, but they are so enamored with themselves that they are irrational and do not realize how deeply they have ticked off the Americans. . |
Philly Special
User ID: 48696927 United States 12/20/2019 08:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, if you haven't yet done so, you should watch McConnell's speech to the Senate yesterday. Congress does not have a right to anything protected by executive privilege. The SC has upheld executive privilege consistently throughout the decades. The "obstruction of congress" article is completely bunk. It's akin to a cop reading you your miranda rights, and then charging you with obstruction of justice when you don't answer any questions. We have definitely veered off the tracks of normalcy, because no one ever considered the idea of impeaching a POTUS in the House, but never sending the articles to the Senate. Why would anyone consider that? Why would they need rules for such an occasion? It's a completely absurd idea that totally undermines any claim of "fairness" "due process" "bipartisan" "urgency" during this whole process (which has lasted all of 12 weeks). This is something a child does. Ram somehthing through as quick as possible because it's the most important thing in the world, then sit on it and delay. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78107266 United States 12/20/2019 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Senate Trial will allow Trump's lawyers to interrogate Joe Biden and Hunter on what they did in Ukraine because: 1) it is the basis for their articles of impeachment. Picture this; Joe Biden lying his ass off in front of the Senate and then the President's Lawyer Rudy Guiliani presenting evidence from Ukraine's prosecutors detailing in brutal details how much money the Bidens received over the Obama years from Ukraine. 2) or Ukraine's former president being called to the witness stand to testify how he was threatened by Joe Biden over aid well son of a bitch... Trump doesn't play by their rules, in fact President Trump doesn't play politics at all and they still haven't figured that out by now. Decades of being targeted by the media have given Trump a power over the media few in politics can ever emulate, he literally thrives on bad press and uses it to his advantage almost as quickly as they try to take him down. |
~kpm~
User ID: 75950402 United States 12/20/2019 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hopefully the Senate can do a work-around and investigate this mess anyway and put it in front of the public. Quoting: White Gloves 75670424 What a mess; confidence in Congress is in the ditch. From what I heard yesterday, and there were numerous guesses, they can still hold the trial BUT without the articles it’s just a empty verdict She can hold on to them as long as she wants too, meaning she could send them over whenever they regain the senate No one really seems to know what is going on ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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User ID: 62421844 United States 12/20/2019 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well thought out, OP. Quoting: Larry D. Croc My remaining question is whether McConnell has the means to force the situation in some way to effectively remove the sword of Damocles during the first few months of 2020. I know I shouldn’t be but I’m astounded by their hypocrisy They are demanding a fair trial after how they conducted theirs? Jeezuz they have some gall Betting she won’t release the articles until they have a majority in the senate, according to many she can hold on to them as long as she wishes, I hope that’s not true . Theirs was NOT a trial. Learn the difference between trials and hearings. Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 45329550 Canada 12/20/2019 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Three cheers to that. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
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User ID: 75950402 United States 12/20/2019 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well thought out, OP. Quoting: Larry D. Croc My remaining question is whether McConnell has the means to force the situation in some way to effectively remove the sword of Damocles during the first few months of 2020. I know I shouldn’t be but I’m astounded by their hypocrisy They are demanding a fair trial after how they conducted theirs? Jeezuz they have some gall Betting she won’t release the articles until they have a majority in the senate, according to many she can hold on to them as long as she wishes, I hope that’s not true . Theirs was NOT a trial. Learn the difference between trials and hearings. I’m sure everyone knew what I meant I am well aware of the difference between the two ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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Dawnvision
User ID: 75117832 United States 12/20/2019 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Articles are being held because something big is coming down the pike that involves actual arrests. It is likely somebody present for the shamwow impeachment inquiry is going to be frog marched. They know something is happening from the a Trump corner, but since they aren’t sure the extent, they aren’t going to transmit. This gives Nancy a little wiggle room to throw them out, or transmit if and when the coast is clear. That’s why. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77941443 United States 12/20/2019 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At the risk of having the full GLP effect come down on me like a herd of monkeys trying to hump a doorknob, I submit to you that there is no way Pelosi will ever send the Senate the articles of impeachment. Quoting: Herbert George Wells Here's why: 1) Adam Schiff illegally got the telephone records of the president's lawyer, Rudy Guiliani, journalist John Solomen, and republican congressman Devin Nunes and included them in his impeachment report; opening a huge can of worms for Pelosi. If those articles go to the senate it will be Schiff's actions on trial and the president's lawyers will be allowed to cross-examine Schiff on the witness stand even if he is one of the house managers sent to present their case for impeachment. What Schiff did was almost just as bad as the FBI's electronic surveillance of the Trump campaign and Pelosi knows it was so bad that Schiff refused to show up before the Judiciary committee to submit his report. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Schiff has done would become the CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 2) The Democrats' case is barely strong enough to put to paper because Schiff failed to use all the powers of the courts to compel the White House to provide the witnesses Schiff says he wanted to appear in his secret sex dungeon beneath the capital building. Schiff also screwed up by refusing to allow White House counsel to attend advise and defend any member of the Trump administration Schiff had on his shortlist to grill like a hotdog at an Ed Buck costume party. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Schiff did not do would become another CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 3) The House impeaching Trump was a purely political act meant to pacify those liberals in Congress and in the Democrat party that were a curly little pubic hair away from revolt and the removal of the makeup-stained gavel from Pelosi's hands. Pelosi has bet the final years of her career in the hope that having articles of impeachment hanging over Trump's head during his re-election campaign will be a modern-day sword of Damocles that who gets the democrat nomination can point to as proof Trump should not be President again. If Pelosi had any sense of how Trump looks at things she would know that he will turn her threat to send the articles of Impeachment to the senate into one more another reason to vote for him even if she does send those articles to the senate in next October. Sending the articles of impeachment to the senate would ensure everything Pelosi has done would become yet another CenterPoint of the Senate trial. 4) The only people in America that haven't figured out that this is just a political stunt by Pelosi are the "Orange man bad" crowd screaming reeeeee into the paper bag of paint fumes they are huffing. Pelosi never meant for this to go anywhere but into her desk drawer as yet another insurance policy for the democrats in case Trump gets elected again is another record landslide win over the democrats. Sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate would ensure that Republicans will retake the house in 2020 and holding on to them will ensure that a Republican speaker of the house can quietly round file them when Pelosi is forced to step down or retire. Agree. Pelosi took a gamble. Trump is a master businessman. He has been entertained with the Democrat impeachment. Obviously there are many naive elected officials in that party..they dug their own demise as an re-elected official. It won’t happen.Their party, their staunch Democratic followers will switch..they have witnessed total disrespect for the laws of our precious America. Their elected officials have ignored corruption..FBI, Clinton, lies after lies, Biden! Couldn’t stand watching Pelosi pointing her finger, she reminded me of my High School librarian who would chastised me for speaking in the library. |
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