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FISA court looking at all of warrant applications from FBI lawyer involved in Carter Page wiretap

 
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Few are saying this but I can't believe the FISA court was stupid enough to accept this obviously bogus scenario of what amounted to the Obama Admin spying on rival presidential candidate's campaign. They knew what was up, FISA WAS IN ON IT. Collyer is acting now because she wants to deflect the blame. I also find the timing of her retirement suspicious.

It's always either health or wanting to spend more time with the family.
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Clinesmith is the fall guy? I wonder how he'll take that. Someone had to tell him what to do.....
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Of course, it’s highly doubtful he concocted this on his own

Will he sing and be Epsteined

Or will he take his chances thinking he’s just going to get a slap on the hand

How hard will it be to prove he intentionally changed the email?

They seem to get away with everything they do

There are emails or texts from him in a panic though, that may help
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Clinesmith is the fall guy? I wonder how he'll take that. Someone had to tell him what to do.....
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Of course, it’s highly doubtful he concocted this on his own

Will he sing and be Epsteined

Or will he take his chances thinking he’s just going to get a slap on the hand

How hard will it be to prove he intentionally changed the email?

They seem to get away with everything they do

There are emails or texts from him in a panic though, that may help
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Well, they get away with everything they do because the entire System is corrupt. It's corrupt at every level so they all cover for each other. It's like a rotten onion.

I think what happens to Clinesmith depends on how much they can pin on him. If it's just changing the 1 email, even though it was a critical change, probably nothing. He should at MINIMUM be disbarred.

If he's heavily involved, I would not be surprised to see him Epsteined. I don't know if singing will save him.

In his 2nd term, Trump really has to FIRE, demote, transfer as many people as possible. These agencies need to be scattered to the winds, or eliminated entirely or rebuilt. Changing the bureaucracy should be a major Trumpian goal.
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Clinesmith is the fall guy? I wonder how he'll take that. Someone had to tell him what to do.....
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Of course, it’s highly doubtful he concocted this on his own

Will he sing and be Epsteined

Or will he take his chances thinking he’s just going to get a slap on the hand

How hard will it be to prove he intentionally changed the email?

They seem to get away with everything they do

There are emails or texts from him in a panic though, that may help
 Quoting: ~kpm~



Well, they get away with everything they do because the entire System is corrupt. It's corrupt at every level so they all cover for each other. It's like a rotten onion.

I think what happens to Clinesmith depends on how much they can pin on him. If it's just changing the 1 email, even though it was a critical change, probably nothing. He should at MINIMUM be disbarred.

If he's heavily involved, I would not be surprised to see him Epsteined. I don't know if singing will save him.

In his 2nd term, Trump really has to FIRE, demote, transfer as many people as possible. These agencies need to be scattered to the winds, or eliminated entirely or rebuilt. Changing the bureaucracy should be a major Trumpian goal.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


What will be interesting is any nefarious deeds on the other applications the judge is asking for on him

I think he will be disbarred at the minimum, but that’s not good enough, IMO
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Clinesmith is the fall guy? I wonder how he'll take that. Someone had to tell him what to do.....
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Of course, it’s highly doubtful he concocted this on his own

Will he sing and be Epsteined

Or will he take his chances thinking he’s just going to get a slap on the hand

How hard will it be to prove he intentionally changed the email?

They seem to get away with everything they do

There are emails or texts from him in a panic though, that may help
 Quoting: ~kpm~



Well, they get away with everything they do because the entire System is corrupt. It's corrupt at every level so they all cover for each other. It's like a rotten onion.

I think what happens to Clinesmith depends on how much they can pin on him. If it's just changing the 1 email, even though it was a critical change, probably nothing. He should at MINIMUM be disbarred.

If he's heavily involved, I would not be surprised to see him Epsteined. I don't know if singing will save him.

In his 2nd term, Trump really has to FIRE, demote, transfer as many people as possible. These agencies need to be scattered to the winds, or eliminated entirely or rebuilt. Changing the bureaucracy should be a major Trumpian goal.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


What will be interesting is any nefarious deeds on the other applications the judge is asking for on him

I think he will be disbarred at the minimum, but that’s not good enough, IMO
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No, definitely not good enough!!!! Clinton was disbarred but that didn't stop him and wifey from accumulating tens of millions of dollars.

I think what they do with a lot of these criminals - the ones they don't Epstein - is they buy their silence off with gifts down the road - lucrative book deals or consultancies or no show contracting jobs. They have so many resources at their fingertips, so many ways of paying people off, and a lot of it is ultimately on the public's dollar.

That's a big reason, perhaps THE big reason, that the Federal govt must be drastically reduced over time. There's too much money floating around and much of it gets "lost" or parceled out in ways we can't track. And even if we do....they're borderline legal, like the Hunter Biden scheme. What's REALLY openly illegal about the Hunter Biden thing (unless they can prove money laundering) is Joe Biden publicly stating that the held up foreign aid money until they fired the prosecutor. That's OPEN CORRUPTION.
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Better late than never, I guess? Why has the FISA court been sitting on its hands for the last two years?
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Thread: Surprise, the FISA judge that the corrupt FBI fooled was a woman.
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Well, we know who the low hanging fruit is so that the others can get off with the usual "we didn't know" excuse.
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Better late than never, I guess? Why has the FISA court been sitting on its hands for the last two years?
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They're a bunch of crooks too. They rubber stamped every warrant the Intel Community sends in. The FISA court knows it's all bullshit - if WE know it's bullshit, they do too. They're just corrupt as well.

This bitch isn't retiring for her health, she's retiring because she got caught in the limelight of her own corruption.
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who allegedly changed a detail in the Page application.

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That concerns me!

He didn't change a "detail".


He changed it from yes to no!

He changed it from:

Carter page is a CIA informant

to

Carter page is not a CIA informant

And then presented that falsified evidence to the FISA court.
 Quoting: Mental Case


But he WAS a CIA ASSET!

...and a patsey, a bribe taking, liar and should be treated as a CRIMINAL, ie. locked away in gitmo... instead of being protected as a legitimate informant.

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On December 5, the FISC ordered the executive branch to identify for it "all other matters currently or previously before this Court" that involved FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith.

The court also asked for descriptions of how the Justice Department and FBI is verifying that those submissions were accurate.

Justice Department watchdog says FBI could have ended Carter Page surveillance months earlier


The FISC order also asks for information on whether Clinesmith -- referred to as "an attorney in the FBI's Office of the General Counsel" in the order -- faces possible disciplinary action from the bar.

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possible disciplinary action from the bar?

He'll hung at GITMO.
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Better late than never, I guess? Why has the FISA court been sitting on its hands for the last two years?
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They're a bunch of crooks too. They rubber stamped every warrant the Intel Community sends in. The FISA court knows it's all bullshit - if WE know it's bullshit, they do too. They're just corrupt as well.

This bitch isn't retiring for her health, she's retiring because she got caught in the limelight of her own corruption.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


Yup, it seems all Government types just don't have time to 'READ' the details.

They instead rely on 'interns' to perform that legwork.

OF COURSE the FISA ABUSE was going on way before the FBI admitted to this case, the 'EVIDENCE WAS CLEARLY MANIPULATED TO FIT THE FAKE CRIME', heads should be rolling!

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One more tool taken away from the crazy lefties. Slowly but surely.
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Better late than never, I guess? Why has the FISA court been sitting on its hands for the last two years?

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It's looking to me like FISA judges were complicit in this coup attempt.
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FISA Court news: Judge Rosemary Collyer, who I am told has health issues, will step down early as presiding judge & Chief Justice Roberts has tapped Judge James Boasberg to take over that role in the new year. (Collyer will apparently remain a FISA judge; her term ends in March.)

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How convenient. Poor Rosemary has health problems when the heat is turned up. I bet she is a feminist which means: " it's not my fault, it's the patriarchy".
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FISA Court news: Judge Rosemary Collyer, who I am told has health issues, will step down early as presiding judge & Chief Justice Roberts has tapped Judge James Boasberg to take over that role in the new year. (Collyer will apparently remain a FISA judge; her term ends in March.)

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How convenient. Poor Rosemary has health problems when the heat is turned up. I bet she is a feminist which means: " it's not my fault, it's the patriarchy".
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Maybe she was the patsy too
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FISA Court news: Judge Rosemary Collyer, who I am told has health issues, will step down early as presiding judge & Chief Justice Roberts has tapped Judge James Boasberg to take over that role in the new year. (Collyer will apparently remain a FISA judge; her term ends in March.)

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How convenient. Poor Rosemary has health problems when the heat is turned up. I bet she is a feminist which means: " it's not my fault, it's the patriarchy".
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Patsy? That doesn't wash if she was the presiding judge and approved the action.

Maybe she was the patsy too
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Thanks for the pin......

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It’s about damned time... let’s get it on already.
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The slow wheels of justice are just getting greased

They better put more people behind bars than the sleazy lawyer!
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Probably just sacrifice 2 or 3 mid level people. Doubt they touch Comey. Also these FISA Court directives have a smell of CYA on them. My opinion--FISA judges were in on the scam.
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Agreed; as evidenced by the fact that they blew off Nunes' letters to the court about the abuses he was privy to.
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who allegedly changed a detail in the Page application.

------------------

That concerns me!

He didn't change a "detail".


He changed it from yes to no!

He changed it from:

Carter page is a CIA informant

to

Carter page is not a CIA informant

And then presented that falsified evidence to the FISA court.
 Quoting: Mental Case


Exactly

And Devin Nunes wrote the FISA Court twice and never got an answer

They knew is was bogus well before the IG Report
 Quoting: ~kpm~


We already know one FISA judge was involved in the process to help Strzok and Page. He recused himself after the texts were found and later quit the FISC.

How many more are involved? We need Durham to investigate the FISA judges.
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no one has reported him to the british accredited regeancy yet?
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Re: FISA court looking at all of warrant applications from FBI lawyer involved in Carter Page wiretap
who allegedly changed a detail in the Page application.

------------------

That concerns me!

He didn't change a "detail".


He changed it from yes to no!

He changed it from:

Carter page is a CIA informant

to

Carter page is not a CIA informant

And then presented that falsified evidence to the FISA court.
 Quoting: Mental Case


Exactly

And Devin Nunes wrote the FISA Court twice and never got an answer

They knew is was bogus well before the IG Report
 Quoting: ~kpm~


We already know one FISA judge was involved in the process to help Strzok and Page. He recused himself after the texts were found and later quit the FISC.

How many more are involved? We need Durham to investigate the FISA judges.
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I had forgotten about that!

That was for the Flynn......


Senior FBI official Peter Strzok says he didn't arrange a cocktail party with a federal judge who serves on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, despite telling his mistress in a text message that he would.

Strzok suggested a "cocktail party" with U.S. District Judge Rudolph Contreras in a July 25, 2016, message to FBI attorney Lisa Page. Days later, on July 31, Strzok opened the FBI's probe of possible Trump campaign collusion with Russia.



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I just opened an investigation on you. Your info was sold from government contractors to private companies who work with gov. Here it’s dispersed to local people Who wrk with other community police.

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